>constantly hear women say men dont know how to hold conversation on dating apps>bumble>women were just as basic when they were responsible for initiating>start using using tinder>lots of female profiles mention men needing better openers or no response>saitama okay.jpeg>get some matches>all of them give short, blunt responses from the start like they already hate talking to you>none of them bring their own questions beyond a reciprocal "what about you?">none of them pick up on obvious cues to elaborate and add depth to the conversation>conversation doesn't go beyond a mechanical interview because only one person is doing all the work>just unmatched them and close the appis this the expectation??? the few matches i get seem like they dont even want to talk to me and i'm supposed to be happy about this?
>>84596189bad conversation opener:good conversation opener:
>>84596197you said it>>84596189dance harder for their entertainment jester
>>84596197>>84596203anons pls. i cri hard right now ;_;jestermaxxing is so painful
>>84596189don't waste your time. if she doesn't message you first, she doesn't want you. i recommend you drop your physical standards to the bottom if you haven't already
>>84596189Try again but this time looking good :)
I like how these dating apps became so mainstream/normal and shilled, when they're so fucking doodoo. They monetize it like a gacha game and give you limited farmville stamina and bad rates of showing people you would actually genuinely match with, shove ads about buying shit in your face constantly, limit your self-expression to 5 self photos and a few somewhat okay text prompts, and lead with a bunch of identity labels that make it easy to blanket skip people without reading anything or looking at their other pictures.Think I'm gonna research which old school dating site isn't filled with visa ladyboys and switch to that.
>>84596189They're right, and you incorrectly extrapolate saying that because they say men don't know how to do it they SHOULD know how to.The truth is nobody knows how to, because it's like crippled interaction and will always be because it's not face to face, you miss a lot of signals and the system itself is designed to take away a lot of what 1v1 convos do (asynchronous, notifications from everyone, etc)It's still men fault because they keep insisting on this approach and learning nothing from the lack of success it provides.
>>84596189yo how about getting on dating discord servers and finding someone from your area bro?Has everyone forgot about modern chatrooms or smth
>>84596489>that because they say men don't know how to do it they SHOULD know how tothe expectation is because of how women obnoxiously downplay the difficulty/burden of initiating, and then also march around like they're experts on how to initiate, and then disingenously claim they'd initiate more if they needed to but, conveniently, they don't because men already come to them>It's still men fault because they keep insisting on this approach and learning nothing from the lack of success it provides.lol whatever bro
>>84596189this is how women act when they arent attracted to youive often had women strumbling over themselves to get or maintain my attention. when women act like the way you see, you should take that as your cue to simply ignore them and not waste your time. you cant make a woman like you, they either do or dont.
>>84596189>>84596197>>84596203women don't want conversation. what they mean is "be Chad and say anything. but be Chad"
