>>84606077
Forgot to attribute the quotation at the bottom of being to Frevd from Jvng. Source is letter 49J. Enjoy!
https://files.spiritmaji.com/books/Jung,%20Carl%20Gustav/Freud_Jung%20Letters,%20The%20[ed.%20McGuire]/McGuire%2C%20William%20%28ed.%29%20-%20Freud_Jung%20Letters%20%28Princeton%2C%201974%29.pdf

I look at all the lonely posters
I look at all the lonely posters

Regular Patchy
Picks up the rice in a thread where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window
Wearing a face that she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is for?

All the lonely posters
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely posters
Where do they all belong?

Centaur Mckenzie
Writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near
Look at him working
Washing his hair in the night when there's nobody there
What does he care?

All the lonely posters
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely posters
Where do they all belong?

I look at all the lonely posters
I look at all the lonely posters

Regular Patchy
Died in the thread and was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Centaur Mckenzie
Wiping the dirt from his hands as walks from the grave
No one was saved

All the lonely posters (I look at all the lonely posters)
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely posters (I look at all the lonely posters)
Where do they all belong?

>washing anything
Lore inaccurate centaur. Anyway is this truly the ship that was promised?

>>84606077
Jung, man, there's no need to feel down, I said
Jung, man, pick yourself off the ground, I said
Jung, man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy
Jung, man, there's a place you can go, I said
Jung, man, when you're short on your dough you can
Stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time

It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
He has everything for young men to enjoy
You can hang out with all the boys
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal
You can do whatever you feel

Jung, man, are you listening to me? I said
Jung, man, what do you want to be? I said
Jung, man, you can make real your dreams
But you've got to know this one thing
No man does it all by himself, I said
Jung, man, put your pride on the shelf
And just go there, to the ESTJ
I'm sure he can help you today

It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
He has everything for young men to enjoy
You can hang out with all the boys
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal
You can do whatever you feel

Jung, man, I was once in your shoes, I said
I was down and out with the blues, I felt
No man cared if I were alive
I felt the whole world was so jive
That's when someone came up to me and said
"Young man, take a walk up the street
It's a place there called the /mbti/
They can make you want to really die"

It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
He has everything for young men to enjoy
You can hang out with all the boys
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
It's fun to stay with the ESTJ
You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal
You can do whatever you feel

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MTBI (16 Personalities):
INTJ-T

Clifton strengths (Gallup):
Deliberative
Futuristic
Strategic
Ideation
Command

>What do you think of gay people?
They're generally fine enough people.

>>84605809
Your thread breaks, your mind aches
You find that all her words of kindness linger on
When she no longer posts here
She wakes up, she makes up
She takes her time and doesn't feel she has to hurry
She no longer posts here

And in her eyes, you see nothing
No sign of thought behind the tears
Cried for no one
A thread that should have lasted years

You want her, you need her
And yet you don't believe her
When she says the thread is dead
You think she needs it

And in her eyes, you see nothing
No sign of thought behind the tears
Cried for no one
A thread that should have lasted years

You stay home, she goes out
She says that long ago she knew someone
But now he's gone, she doesn't need him
Your day breaks, your mind aches
There will be times when all the things she said will fill your head
You won't forget her

And in her eyes, you see nothing
No sign of thought behind the tears
Cried for no one
A thread that should have lasted years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgJ7dmr_ysU
I knew it was a song off Revolver

If Lilac isn't coming back then neither am I.

I read the /news/ today, oh, boy
About a lucky man who caught a ban
Although the news was rather sad
Well, I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph

He blew his mind out on a stream
He didn't notice that the meme had changed
A crowd of people (You)'d and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if he was from a Discord

I saw kino today, oh, boy
Ryan Gosling had just lost the girl
A crowd of people turned away
But I just had to peek, he is litterly me

I'd love to turn (You) on

Woke up, fell back in bed
Dragged my mouse over the thread
Found my way down stairs and drank a beer
And looking up, I noticed I was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a little toke
And somebody smoke and I went into a dream

I read the /news/ today, oh, boy
Four thousand holes on every 4chan board
And though the tits were rather small
They had to post them all
Now they know how many tits it takes to fill the Albert Hall

I'd love to turn (You) on

>>84606077
>your mbti type (take a test if you don't know)
ESFP-T
>>what do you think of GAY MEN?
I have nothing for them or against them.
>>(Optional) What's a gay thing you've done?
Intimate physical contact with another girl.
>>(Optional) Would you be open to doing something, slightly, incrementally gayer?
I think I've pretty much been to the bottom of the proverbial rabbit hole in that regard.

>>84606456
we got patchi, curefag, soapie
so yea who cares?

>>84606597
Didn't ask homo.

>>84606077
>your mbti type (take a test if you don't know)
intp
>what do you think of GAY MEN?
i dont think of gay dudes, i'm not a fag
>(Optional) What's a gay thing you've done?
everything i do is 102% hetero with a 2% margin of error

Okay but is futa gay or not, and is futa on women so much less gay than man on women porn that the gayness of futa on men is that it makes up for it and makes you superstraight

>>84606077
This board is filled with far too many faggots and troons. I'm leaving this board. Fuck off faggots. Kys

sexy sophie
perfect patchy
cute curefag
marvelous mosley
tasty turbie

I thought patchy was centaur, why do people assume they're different people?

>>84606710
were all in the homo thread now homo

>>84606754
I think this probably depends on the size of the futacock, tbqh

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>>84606077
I prefer the canon version of the ship: IF(N)(who is neurotic enough you could mistake him for the opposite type) x IT(N)(who sounds like an INFJ apparently) lmao. It worked exactly as well as you could expect.

Imagine if an EN wanted to be with an ES. Especially imagine one of them is particularly neurotic. That would be an exceptionally chaotic disaster.

how can you know for sure if you're intp or entp

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>>84607972
Are you very retarded about how you/other people feel about things - basically "autistic" in the strictly social sense, or are your "aesthetic sensibilities" the same a 5yo japanese girl despite being a 40yo+ man(while telling yourself and everyone else that you just want to bone the magical girls because somehow the truth would be sillier than that?)

>>84608094
>ENTPs are trannies in denial and want to become 5yo girls
This might be the wildest take I've ever read in these threads, please explain yourself

>>84608109
Imagine Sensation, imagine introversion along with it too, and imagine that being particularly retarded like the IT's own Feeling + connected almost exclusively to unconscious things as it doesn't usually join the conscious personality, particularly the Anima archetype for men.
That said, keep the narrow-minded cultural assumptions for yourself. (((They))) don't want you to know, but you can integrate your unconscious contents in ways that aren't literally cutting your dick off - which would be more like Anima possession than integration in theory.

>>84606813
Patchy is way more well read, uses LLMs and accused centaur of e-molesting him in shady puzzle chats. Long after centy had stopped posting though

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>>84608133
Sorry curebabe, but these talks are a tad too deep for me (well, for now, maybe I'll get to learn the theory if I lurk and partake in your autism long enough), so I'll assume that qwen understands you well enough that I can use it to respond to you still, because some of these elements are pretty interesting to me;

I can kinda see that, see for the longest time I was thinking that ENTPs (well, me, but I could also see it in others and talked to other ENTPs about this and it seemed to be pretty pertinent) use the whole bullshitter bravado as they grow up to integrate easier into more socially acceptable groups, this is where the whole cyborg meme comes in, I was always more comfortable with the nerds because my hobbies were nerdy, but I had no real issues otherwise playing along with the normies, and I can honestly see the feminine aspect being real too, mind you you wouldn't be able to catch young me ever admitting to this shit, but even tho I don't want to be the little girl, I know what you mean when you say you enjoy the aesthetics, this is why I'm absolutely not bothered by the idea of watching cartoons (chinese or otherwise), shit I love adventure time, I enjoyed steven universe even (tho I never finished it), etc etc
(ignoring the tranny hyperbole part) I can also see the desire to distance oneself from the 'weak' feelings, anything that I would've deemed to potentially risk my social status and have me being looked down by my circles and others, which I still haven't completely gone over(?) because I probably wouldn't bring this shit up in front of family or coworkers (but isn't that normal?), but I can now pretty confidently talk about it with close friends

Some of you tards are so smart, it's crazy to me

>>84606754
I think the problem with the futa is that it puts focus on the penor. With regular porn the cock and balls are just sort of meant to blend in to the background but since you wouldn't expect them on a woman, it adds a layer of psychological interest.

On the other hand I heard Freud said that men were kind of horrified by women's lack of penises and every time they see a woman they fear castration. Or something like that. Maybe futa porn is more comforting.

>>84607928
I suppose it would go about as poorly as an IS with an IN, eheheh. Ok but what combos actually do work?

>>84608240
This bit of lore only makes me believe it even harder, centaur wasn't retarded and 'well read' is a matter of sitting your ass down and reading, which he could've done over the years?
I mean it's just vibes and intuition that's years' old, so I might be wrong, but I do feel like there's a lot of overlap here, not that it really matters, I just find it funny that one of the smartest regular which is known for his avatarfagging and semi sarcastic and slightly abrasive personality and interest in the theory just 'disappears' through a completely coincidental drama with a new regular that just appears all of a sudden, is also very smart, also very slightly abrasive, and is also avatarfagging (but using another source for said avatars, though still japanese), I just see a lot of dots and patterns here, but maybe I'm retarded

I like them both tho, so it's fine

>>84608094
Yeah I've always said that clopping became such a big thing because it was much easier for late teens early 20s guys to psychologically justify just wanting to have sex with the my little ponies than to actually enjoy a thing made for little girls. Not that we weren't all, also pedophiles, it's just that wanting to bangalang candy coloured creatures is much less deviant than wanting to play with them. It's like a kind of double bluff and also why the sexual aspect was so public.

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>>84608255
Personally I believe it doesn't have much to do with types, but there seems to be something you can say about dealing with a person of same I/E attitude + opposite function.
The reason for this is not very intuitive and to be fair it relies a lot of my understanding of the Jung-Freud example:

So normally if you paired a Ti-groid and Te-groid who both have their Thinking refined, flexible, and doing a genuine attempt at understanding things as much you possibly can because this is the function they "chose" to rely on to make sense of reality itself, you might disagree with the intended direction(whether it's for personal philosophical purposes or to apply it in the external world somehow) but they still feed into each other, going full circle eventually. Why would any Thinker reject a perfectly valid theory and conclusion(speculative as it might be, since it's psychology)? For them this is just something they can't even grasp, even if they might not particularly interested in it compared to anything else.
However, if you paired a Ti-groid who has all of that, and somebody whose Te-groidisms happen at the level of the inferior function/opposite attitude, with all the touchiness, sensitivity and particularly dogmatic stances, well, you are asking to cause as scene merely by engaging on the same Thinking terms. You put somebody who treats debating ideas like a relaxing afternoon(because everyone is supposedly strong and secure in the realm of the superior function) together with a religious(in terms of attitude, at least, not necessarily spiritual belief) freak.

>>84608286
Now we are talking and doing the real science.
There again, "everyone is a little girl on 4chan" was an old mantra, and I might have taken it to heart, psychologically but not physically speaking.

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>>84608243
>Opus 4.7
Claude is my Ni-gga(for some reason his default persona appears to be INFJ to me) but I'm not sure he got it very well there.
>ENTPs use the whole bullshitter bravado as they grow up to integrate easier into more socially acceptable groups
As far Ne-groidism is concerned, social integration tends to not be prioritized at all. On one hand because it has fuck all to do with intuition while being only tangentially related to extraversion, and on the other hand because intuition tends to be biased against the present conditions(a priori, it is entirely irrational, "what exists for them is just the wrong thing, it should be something else" says Jung about our type).

>I was always more comfortable with the nerds because my hobbies were nerdy, but I had no real issues otherwise playing along with the normies, and I can honestly see the feminine aspect being real too, mind you you wouldn't be able to catch young me ever admitting to this shit, but even tho I don't want to be the little girl, I know what you mean when you say you enjoy the aesthetics
Nice and same. There again, it's an anonymous imageboard we can type whatever we want.

> I can also see the desire to distance oneself from the 'weak' feelings, anything that I would've deemed to potentially risk my social status and have me being looked down by my circles and others, which I still haven't completely gone over(?) because I probably wouldn't bring this shit up in front of family or coworkers (but isn't that normal?), but I can now pretty confidently talk about it with close friends
Sure enough. On a personal level I care little to be fair, which makes me wonder if here we are dealing with the difference between a Jungian EN(T)(whose Feeling might be proudly introverted kinda like a low-tier IF) and a EN(F)(who could be Ne-Fe as per Jung, so MBTI ENTP)

>Some of you tards are so smart, it's crazy to me
Why did I think about this pic as soon as I read that.
Blame intuition I guess.

>>84608257
Centaur doesn't know shit about theory. He's only just started reading Psychological types. He has a broad, shallow, dubiously sourced knowledge base from spending 10+ years half watching YouTube video essays while jacking off

>>84608328
If it was physically and socially easy enough I'm sure you would have turned yourself into literally a little girl as well. I think at least 1/3 of anons here would.

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>>84608437
Probably for different reasons than you might imagine, but it's not off the table. Still, the Jungpill does warn you against throwing yourself straight into the unconscious, that ain't proper integration.
You could be doing fun stuff like active imaginationmaxxing and write something fun with little girls idk. Oh well, I get to do a very specific AA reference here.

>>84608422
>As far Ne-groidism is concerned, social integration tends to not be prioritized at all
Lemme add context to that then; this probably depends on the school and culture (including school culture), this was to me more of a survival tactic, because who the fuck wants to be bullied?
The nerds were bullied, I was a nerd, but I didn't want to be bullied, so I'd just hang out with the chads every now and then to not take any collateral damage, which I realize is a tad manipulative but wtf did I know, I was just a kid

>Sure enough. On a personal level I care little to be fair, which makes me wonder if here we are dealing with the difference between a Jungian EN(T)(whose Feeling might be proudly introverted kinda like a low-tier IF) and a EN(F)(who could be Ne-Fe as per Jung, so MBTI ENTP)
I don't know, maybe, maybe that's why I got some INFJ vibes from you or something, I used to shrug it off and think 'probably a different enneagram', because obviously MBTI isn't going to completely box an entire human bean, there are still bits left out and these can very well fuck with the very principle of typing in the first place, well for what it's worth anyways, and never looked into jungian typology directly because I really don't want to have to deal with another set of knowledge I'd have to figure out

I have an extremely strong love/hate relationship with the very idea of appearing vulnerable with someone desu, like it's both something that scares me and something that I absolutely crave, though it only seems to appear when I'm depressed and feeling like shit, so I waved it off as shadow function bullshitery

>>84608426
I don't know, he acted dumb often enough but sometimes he'd let some knowledge slip here and there which to me felt like he was very well aware of wtf we were talking about, but who knows, it's the problem with smart people, especially Ni-ggers, my intuition meter always goes haywire and goes all over the place

>>84608437
nta, I don't know about becoming the little girl, personally, I feel pretty good in my skin (even though I always play as female characters in game, this is probably semi related to the discussion), but when I'd play VR then playing as a woman felt completely uncanny to me, for example, and then when I was writing, I'd never feel comfortable writing from the female's perspective either, so I don't know if that's what it is?

On the other hand, if you had given me a button to teleport to ponyland, I'd have smashed that shit into a crater without even blinking twice, so was it because I'd have been comfortable with having ponypussy everywhere on display? Maybe, I don't know, maybe it was also that I saw this sort of world as so much simpler and I would've loved a simpler life like that, or maybe that's the cope I've used
But even becoming a pony in the process wasn't something I felt comfortable with (which I obviously thought about at some point, we probably all did)

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>>84608476
>The nerds were bullied, I was a nerd, but I didn't want to be bullied, so I'd just hang out with the chads every now and then to not take any collateral damage, which I realize is a tad manipulative but wtf did I know, I was just a kid
Fair enough. My school days were weird because
Primary and middle school I end up in a class with mostly girls, so the few boys there including myself would all stick together. Who is going to bully us, the girls? Lol.
High school this is somehow completely inverted and I'm in all-male class, doing a strange mix of just staying with a few random dudes who wanted to talk about stuff(mainly tech, computers were a relatively new thing), making myself look like an introvert and sometimes arguing with the religion teacher(I know I know) because we were getting really philosophical(I think the guy was the first time I met an introverted intuitive IRL, and he might have been more of a thinkoid too because he seemed to not be very interested in the moral/personal side of religion too much, arguably he was doing something resembling Jungian psychology without realizing it).
College I was just too caught in my own things to care about anyone else.

>I really don't want to have to deal with another set of knowledge I'd have to figure out
I'd like to say it's not like that, however it is exactly like that because MBTI/Socionics etc. are operating very differently than classic Jungian.

>I have an extremely strong love/hate relationship with the very idea of appearing vulnerable with someone desu, like it's both something that scares me and something that I absolutely crave
That's very common I believe.

>>84608513
All the little girl-ism aside, that's still a reminder here that Heartcatch Precure is explicitly a Jungian narrative.
And I mean so explicit, that half of the plot is an introvert saying they would want to be more extraverted, literally, word per word.

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Ne/Ti x Ni/Te autistic screeching contest that turns into hate sex and cuddles

so who's lilac

>>84609399
reggie who slept with half the thread

did you sleep with her

>>84606077
Are you ESTJ OP?

>>84609399
An enfp girl with hair that touches her butt.

>>84609399
She's the ghost in your walls

>>84609399
do you know junko enoshima

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>>84608972
I fucking love AI
And INTJs, in an original manner

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the eternal struggle on whether i'm intp or intj (yes i know the cognitive functions are completely different)

>>84609990
What if i bith dont want to and dont know how to, but i have to in order to get money and get laid?

>>84610018
i both don't know and don't want to
idk i'm a neet and a virgin

if you don't know, then you're INTP, because INTJs don't care and thus they don't need 'to know' how to talk to people, they just say whatever they want to say

>>84606077
>>your mbti type (take a test if you don't know)
ENTP
>>what do you think of GAY MEN?
its a mix bag of people, some "gay" people arent really gay and alot of gay people are kind of "weird". its fine people can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't effects others too much.

but my eyes cant keep up with everything
>>(Optional) What's a gay thing you've done?
dream about a guy caressing me in bed while we fall asleep in each other's arms

and i have sucked dick
>>(Optional) Would you be open to doing something, slightly, incrementally gayer?
in private? sure
in public? nope, but might do it as long as it passes as something 2 normal friends can do

this was a very gay reply
>>84608972
NEED

>>84610073
intjs can't have an anxiety disorder?

>>84610105
typology is irrelevant if you're mentally ill, you're by definition going to work in a different way and so trying to assign anything relying on logic and consistency is pointless, but idk

typology is dependent upon which mental illnesses you possess.

>>84609483
>ESTJ
What makes you ask that?

>>84609399
Some bitch past her prime trying to keep her name alive by constantly bringing herself up.

>>84609399
A beautiful woman infatuated with the effiminate yet alluring musk of horsie boborsie

>>84609399
No idea just got here myself

>>84609399
She's a wonderful angel creature that deserves no less that endless cuddles and soft things

>>84609399
Its a type of plant but if your referring to the poster that frequents this little dinky DnD club that would be https://files.catbox.moe/zju5nm.mp4

holy juicy mommies!!

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well well well would ya look at that

>>84609399
A siren with the voice of an angel and the smile of a demon.

Awwlright! Chapter 1 here we come!

THE PROBLEM OF TYPES IN THE
HISTORY OF CLASSICAL AND
MEDIEVAL THOUGHT
1. PSYCHOLOGY IN THE CLASSICAL AGE:
THE GNOSTICS, TERTULLIAN, ORIGEN

[8] So long as the historical world has existed there has
always been psychology, but an objective psychology is only
of recent growth. We could say of the science of former times
that in proportion to the lack of objective psychology there is
an increase in the rate of subjectivity. Hence, though the
works of the ancients are full of psychology, only little of it
can be described as objective psychology. This may be due in
no small measure to the peculiar character of human
relationships in classical and medieval times. The ancients
had, so to speak, an almost entirely biological valuation of
their fellow-men; this is everywhere apparent in their habits
of life and in the legislation of antiquity. The medieval man,
in so far as his value judgments found any expression at all,
had on the contrary a metaphysical valuation of his fellows,
and this had its source in the idea of the imperishable value of
the human soul. This metaphysical valuation, which may be
regarded as compensatory to the standpoint of antiquity, is
just as unfavourable as the biological one so far as a personal
valuation is concerned, which alone can form the basis of an
objective psychology.

Uhh, so yeah I think I lost him on that last sentence. fact checking aside I think I know what he's talking about up until
>This metaphysical valuation, which may be regarded as compensatory to the standpoint of antiquity, is just as unfavourable as the biological one so far as a personal valuation is concerned, which alone can form the basis of an objective psychology.

>>84609399
I don't know her as well as some others, but she was very sweet to me; and has a voice that I could listen to for hours even if I'm too dumb to understand most of what she's saying.

>>84609399
her gingerness is one of the divine beings, look into the esoteric principles of the apple orchards

>>84606456
Please, see yourself out ..

>>84609399
Trash incarnate

>>84606813
My theory is that it's both simptaur and lilacking. I think they take turns.

>>84611471
>>This metaphysical valuation, which may be regarded as compensatory to the standpoint of antiquity, is just as unfavourable as the biological one so far as a personal valuation is concerned, which alone can form the basis of an objective psychology.
I think he means
>the medieval men do psychology basically in two ways: biological vs metaphysical -- the latter is a compensation of the former
>they both suck cocks, you need something more personal(as in, actually about individuals) if you want a claim at "objective psychology" rather than reducing it to biology or metaphysics

lil 'yucs tussy owns this whole ass thread