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As a child I've been completely friendless, and then later I had a tough time dating. The mainstream advice on the internet at the time was "improooov" so I improooooooved and battled depression as much as I could. I wasn't "sit at home and stare the wall" type of depressed, I was "here is a pic of me sad but in Japan" type of depressed.

Later I tried various advice to make friends, most of it boiling down to "go to places where there are people and start talking to them" and this advice is fucking bollocks unless you're 10/10 Chad because most social situations full of randoms really are "everyone wants to be friends with Chad".

What finally worked for me... well, "worked" because while the difference is night and day but I'm still very lonely, was hanging out with coworkers. I think the magic ingredient here is having common goals. When you have a common goal to work towards, then naturally cooperation makes sense, which means that you enjoy spending time with that person because it gives you benefits.

This ties back to me improooooooving my way out of loneliness and miserably failing - by becoming a more independent, higher-functioning person I actually lowered the number of people I could have common goals with, so I was sabotaging myself.

When you read women's bitching about men, it often boils down to "men behave differently from how I expect them to behave and I'd rather just do shit by myself" and when you think about it from the perspective of "women's life goals don't align with men's life goals" then it's no wonder nobody ain't dating. While it's true that women spread their legs like Moses spread water in the presence of Chad, the core complaint is "I'd rather be alone than with an average man", not "I want Chad and won't settle for anything less", and this is the issue.

Making it economically viable for people to survive single is what killed dating. Turns out, people just don't fucking like each other.
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>no tl;dr
fuck you, nigger
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>>84610492
"Friends" are a modern concept. For most of human history, you had a concrete reason to be interacting with the people you saw daily. Either they were your family, or they were people in your village that you cooperated with and worked with. So yes, having a common goal is a key part of human relationships. Women are more suited to aimless friendships, because in ancient times they would all sit around cooking, looking after kids communally, and had nothing to do but talk. Men would do things that had a goal- they would hunt together or scout together or battle together. Men are worse at small talk and sitting around gossiping. I've only ever known women that can sit on the phone talking about nothing for hours.

So yes, as a man, and in atomised society, you are generally going to want a common goal to bond with other people. That can be work, although I prefer to not be around workmates outside of work. It can also be a common interest like a sport, tabletop games, car enthusiasts- you name it.

>Making it economically viable for people to survive single is what killed dating. Turns out, people just don't fucking like each other.

I feel like this is kind of a different subject, but yes, making it possible for women to get by without being financially depedant on a man is definitely a factor in lower fertility rates, more virgins, less relationships etc. Men being breadwinners was our entire appeal.
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I'm what you call a 10/10 Chad and it's not easy, I'm just an useless weight on my daily life, only foids search my vicinity, for my looks only
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>>84610492
>Making it economically viable for people to survive single is what killed dating.
that's harder than ever
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>>84610672
Romance is a modern concept. Friends have existed since the beginning of time, and the first book ever written was about mourning a friend. What common goal does a king have with a fucking caveman? None, they just had fun together.It is actually in the modern day that humans suddenly dont understand friendship at all. Friendship is great exactly because you dont need common goals, you dont share every single piece of life with each other, so you can afford to have a truly unconditional connection.
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>>84610492
common goals for women seem to be:
- man pays for everything including rent/mortgage
- man buys whatever she wants
- she has no responsibilities
- maybe there's sex
a sugar baby without any of the benefits. basically they expect the man to be a substitute parent so they can live in perpetual adolescence
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>>84610492
Women are affectionless and find men's affection repulsive. Men here figured that out and they lie to themselves constantly to cover for the simple fact that makes dating pointless. Why you need to find anything else, including that whole ass wall of text to cope with the dating landscape is beyond me.
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>>84610683
GTFO R9K is not for you
Take your mighty thundercock elsewhere
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>>84610492
Nah it's due to the fact that normies got internet access! Back in the early 00's everyone got married for the sake of getting married early, I am the only one in my graduating class that isn't wed.



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