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Paul
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fictional character from a jewish fairy tale
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>>12757717
There is evidence for his existence. He was real
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>fictional character from a jewish fairy tale
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>>12757786
chuds are bible bashers though... which is ironic because they're pro guns and pro christianity even though christianity forbids killing

>>12757774
said evidence being the bible itself
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>>12757790
Correct
The bible, which is infallible

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>>12758465
the bible was made up and everything in it is fiction
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>>12757661
The Apostle Paul was the antichrist who transforms the teachings of Christ into a church of hypocrisy and lies
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>>12758465
incorrect
the GOSPELS are infallible
that's why the phrase "the gospel truth" exists
Only the gospels contain the actual teachings of Jesus from Jesus himself
the rest is either ancient Jewish folklore, or commentary written by men long after Jesus's death
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>>12757661
Isn't he the guy who said
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; 5 it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; 10 but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. 13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Or something like that?

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>>12757790
You're an ukrainian jew
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>>12758477
are you absolutely certain your imaginary friend jesus was a real person and it's not just superstition
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>>12758477
I’m curious why were the gospels written so long after the death of Jesus? They were written like 60 years later
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>>12757717
>>12757774
The historical consensus is extremely strong that Paul of Tarsus was a real historical figure. In fact, Paul is one of the best-attested figures from early Christianity, and his existence is more firmly established than that of many other ancient figures.
Here's why historians are confident Paul existed:

Primary sources written by Paul himself: Seven letters are almost universally accepted by scholars as authentically written by Paul (Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon). These date to roughly 50-60 CE, making them among the earliest Christian documents we have - written just 20-30 years after Jesus's death.

Independent attestation: Paul is mentioned by other early Christian writers who were his contemporaries or near-contemporaries, including references in Acts (though scholars debate its historical reliability on details) and later Christian sources.

No motive for invention: Unlike Jesus, whose existence some fringe theories question, there would be little reason to invent Paul. He was often controversial within early Christianity, admitted to persecuting Christians before his conversion, and his authentic letters show him in conflict with other apostles. These unflattering details suggest real historical memory rather than hagiography.

Details that check out: Paul's letters contain incidental details about travel, people, and places that align with what we know about the Roman world of that period.

Even scholars who are skeptical of Christianity's theological claims treat Paul's historical existence as established fact. The debate is about interpreting what he wrote and did, not whether he existed.
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Remember when yuji confirmed that every online intelligence apparatus is real save for the ones tied to israel
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>>12758481
When someone challenges your indoctrination and naive worldviews, it must be the boogeyman on the enemy team. This is because the absolute dogma that you ate up cannot possibly be propaganda or fiction. If it were, it would deconstruct your false sense of identity and that would be very scary and dangerous
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^ He thinks he is a free thinker
v He isn't a free thinker tho
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birds are very important
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>>12757774
Zero contemporary non christian historical sources. None. Zero. For someone who supposed met kings, governors, traveled tge Mediterranean, caused riots in hife cities and git sent off yo Rone to be Martyred why are there NO sources Anywhere other than the biblical fairy tale? Answer: because it is bullshit.
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>>12758491
Waow based based based based based based based based ba
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>>12758489
I don't give a fuck about the bible but I know I've seen you cry about chuddy christians blaming jews for killing christ. I've literally never someone bring that up who wasn't a dirty jew with ulterior motives
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>>12758492
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

>inb4 'wikipedia isn't a reliable source!'
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Flash fact: the spanish inquisition has been over for a while now
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>>12758486
>Primary sources written by Paul himself:
The proof that Homer Simpson is real is found by watching Simpsons episodes.
Idiot.
Zero non christian, contemporary sources. Zero. None.
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>>12757786
sōy brain
>>12757790
>said evidence being the bible itself
>evidence of the truth of a fiction is tge fiction itself
kill yourself out of s4s
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>>12758499
how can you expect contemporary sources on the life of a man who died 2000 years ago? that's ridiculous.
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>>12758499
>>12758500
so if Paul isn't real, then who did write the works of the Apostle Paul? Someone had to.
Whoever that person is, that's Paul. It's that fucking simple.
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>>12758495
Now you're making things up. You're unhinged and delusional.
I don't blame jews for killing christ, because there is no such thing as christ (he never actually existed (the book is fiction)). Are we clear?
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Also I should add that you're arguing a total dipshit retard position that would get you laughed out of any serious historical debate. You know that right? Every legitimate historical source disagrees with you
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>>12758504
The bible is not a legitimate historical source.
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>>12758497
>inb4 'wikipedia isn't a reliable source!'
Consensus opinion was that Piltdown man was established science for 59/0 years.
Christianity was LAW enforced by death for 1500 years. I know it is hard to believe that a 1800 tear old mafia would fight to the bitter end to keep its power. 1800 years? Yeah, nobody heard of this Jesus dude until the second century. Fictional character. The monster under your bed and the tooth fairy are more real than jesus.
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>>12758503
I love you Yuji but your heart is stuck in the age of televangelists
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>>12758506
You want sources outside of the Bible? Here. Here's some.
This is only the first screenshot. It's in alphabetical order. Notice how this only goes down to "B"? I couldn't fit all the sources. There's over 7 pages of them linked to the wikipedia source.

Maybe actually educate yourself before spouting off nonsense retard shit. Like actually read the wikipedia article. If you can refute that, let's fucking hear it, but I doubt you can. Because you're wrong an you're not a historian, retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle
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>>12758512
>The main sources of information on Paul's life and works are Paul's letters and the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament.
>sources outside of the Bible
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Oh dear it appears as if I’ve started a religious debate
*grabs popcorn*
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the fucking bible is made up lololol NONE OF IT IS REAL

IDIOTS
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>>12758502
Tead Robert M Price's the Amazing Colossal Apostle. Nobody heard od Paul until Marcion (you know, the guy who wrote the FIRST GOSPEL) put some letters attributed to Paul in that book. Sone suspect that Paul was Simon Magus. Some ooint out the similarities between Applolonius of Tyanna and Jesus and suggest Psul was based on a follower of Applolonius (can't remember his name off the top of my head.) Some say Marcion made them up using old gnostic texts. Regardless even christian scholars confirm that most of them are forgeries and any "authentic" has even been highly redacted. Saul tge bad jew/Paul the good christian? A fictional character out of propagandistic theology.
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>>12758520
and you base this on it all being a "jewish fairrytale"
while ignoring major sections of the new testament are historical letters from Rome and Greece to well known political figures
like that's not a jewish fairytale, nigger
it's not the word of god either,
but it's not made up
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>>12758510
my heart has actually evolved past clinging to propaganda that's based on fear (threat of eternal torture)

my heart has the courage to transcend dogmatic thinking patterns
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oh boy youtube christians and reddit atheists thread
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>>12758501
Go read. The problem with Christianity is there are no sources. The first century was well recorded.
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>>12758527
motherfucker you got mainstream AI chatbots in here replying and you're saying they're cringe reddit atheists. Like no motherfucker, wikipedia and gemini aren't fringe, atheists sources
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>>12758529
yes an the life of Paul the Apostle was in the 1st century and also well recorded. There is no question about that.
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>>12758530
Does this to your food while you are looking
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>>12758530
not the freaking AI chatbotters oh no oh frick @chat is this real
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I'm not even Christian myself. I'm not arguing for Christianity. I'm just saying that the Apostle Paul was a real, well documented, historical figure who wrote much of the early works of the Christian church. That doesn't make me a televangelist Christian or something. I'm sane and normal and well educated, and I'm just pushing the mainstream, widely accepted, undeniable historical truth that Paul was a real person, and you're all freaking out like a bunch of autistic sperglords flinging feces at me when I'm just telling you the actual fucking truth that any half educated person knows.
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Why would I care about whether some long dead fags lived
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>>12758499
The existence of episodes of The Simpsons is not evidence that Homer Simpsons exists
But it is evidence that Matt Groening exists, because he was the writer of the Simpsons
In the same was the writings of the Apostle Paul are evidence that he existed because he was the writer
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>>12758539
Don’t judge them too harshly they’re just retarded they can’t help it
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>>12758532
name your sources that are not in the Bible itself.
none.
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>>12758485
Nah the gospels didn’t really come around until 300ad when a bunch of kikes corrupted the Christian religion and forced Christianity to become a single entity at the point of a sword and injected a bunch of white lies into it because the general population needed to be lied to in order to be properly saved.

It’s amazing that the gospels ended up as decent as they are given the context, there had to have been some genuine push for goodwill to be included into the gospels.

The idea that human documents and saints are infallible people is retarded. One of the white lies they deemed necessary to save as many people as possible.

You have to have your own genuine discernment to the point where you might be able to write a gospel yourself. So much has been destroyed and wasted because of cutting corners and insisting on brainwashing people instead of carefully taking a fatherly role in someone’s life and teaching them actual discernment.

Demons will attack you if you so much as mention that they exist. Tons of people are talking to demons in the Christian religion thinking it’s the voice of God, because the fuckers weren’t taught to properly discern and protect themselves.
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>>12758546
Matt Groening has multiple, contemporary sources of his existence that were not written by Matt Groening. Paul has none. Zero. Zilch.
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>>12758539
>the Apostle Paul was a real, well documented, historical figure
name your sources.
hint: you can't.
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The problem with christcucks isn't that they worship a jew on a stick. The problem is they worship their own willful ignorance. They rejoice in stupidity and lying.
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>>12758564
I already have. If you can dispute the wikipedia page and the 7 pages of bilbliography sources, then let me hear it
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>>12758566
What's wrong with being a jew?
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Guys I’m thinking about creating my own religion wouldn’t that be cool

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