What is the scientific basis for people without an inner voice?
my guess is they never talked to themselves growing upit's not weirdim sure you can fix this shit by talking to yourself out loud too then once you get used to it then just stop talkingif you can create an a different voice that replies to you without conscience effort(tulpa) by forcing a conversation with it for 20m then im sure you can do thisnot a scientist im NEET and the scientific method is lame
It's a mix of visual thinking and intuition. My inner audio channels are all devoted to a never-ending playlist of random songs.
>>16771510mind's fucky wucky
>>16771510They are so unlikable they can't stand themselves.
who knows.I think I've spent most of waking life talking in my head.forcing myself not to is difficult.
>>16771510Ask Socrates.
>>16771510Corpus Callosum deficiency, can't create internal feedback loop of speech center data in both hemispheres.A ghost of your speech center is in the other hemisphere, some speculate it's functionality is the internal monologue, feeding what would be speech center data through a mimic of the auditory cortex, in a simulated neural matrix that mimics the real thing.With a deficiency in the communicative substrata between both hemispheres, it limits the mechanisms necessary to create this condition of an internal monologue. Either the speech data doesn't translate over, or the processing in the in situ auditory cortex does not occur.There are potential fixes for this, but they are the same type of, one nail, one board at a time, approaches, like for fixing aphantasia.The necessary literature and SOTA discoveries to confirm this information are between 18 months and 48 months away.
>>16771510they were made by god to serve jews
Maybe their brains figured out a way into thinking in "low steps" skipping awareness of inner voice.
calcified pineal gland, terminal NPC'dom
>>16771510Can they even listen to music in their head
>>16771510They usually play stuff back like a movie. It sounds more efficient desu.
>>16772288That's the base model, my friend.We call it instinct, and lizards are very good at it.
>>16772271I don't think that's it. I can do it on demand, but it's not a default setting.
>>16771510Brain basically works by creating sympathetic models of other people on the same hardware. When we see somebody else, we project as that person and imagine what they might be feeling. We also encode memories, which include playback of the shit we do and dreams which can be a lucid sandbox world in our imagination. Basically, our brains can emulate themselves so we can imagine ourselves talking sometimes as if we were another person to build a coherent narrative in our mind through recursive conversations.In theory you don't need to do that at all to function though. The brain can process things without that kind of narrative, even people with an inner voice do it if they speed read without subvocalization by taking in and processing nonvocal information. Same way the deaf can think, actually.
>>16772295im happy to inform you that the fuckers with internal monologue can do that to
>>16771510>i don't hear the voices others say they hearCongratulations, you're not schizophrenic.
>>16771510Geniuses
There are no such people, it's just a meme. So many movies have protagonists who narrate events in their head, yet no one has ever asked why the main character is doing that. If there were people with no internal monologue, they would be unable to understand these movies.
>>16774228Lmao. Geniuses have no internal monologue
>>16771510Reminder that people without an inner voice consistently report higher life satisfaction, happiness and lower rates of mental disorders.
>>16771527Nah. I never talked to myself as a kid. No inner voice. As an adult I talk to myself out loud all the time on my mindfulness walks. Still no inner voice.
>>16774228What? That's never how I viewed that. I thought it was a narrative technique to reveal to the audience what the main character was planning to do. Not to narrate to themselves.
>>16771553This
>>16774229As a genius, it is not a voice monologue. It is the buzzing and humming of millions of active beehives.
>>16771510I have an internal monologue but about half the time I do this >>16771553If you can't think without words (consciously), I'd say that's just as deficient as not being able to think in words.
>>16774263Yes it's a narrative technique based on the fact that you hear your own voice inside your head when you think or read a letter. Or how about a comic with thought bubbles? Here is today's Garfield. Are you telling me there are people who are incapable of understanding these are his thoughts?
>>16774587Just because people understand a narrative or artistic device does not constitute an admission that their subjective experience is exactly like that. I bet you understand what is meant by a flashback in a movie but I doubt everything actually gets wavy and black-and-white when you think of something in the past.
>>16774587Also is that really today's garfield? It's not funny at all there's barely even any joke or gag to speak of.
>>16774598I can't refute this. I concede there may be some who believe the inner monologue (as seen in movies) is simply a depiction of the process of thinking for the benefit of the viewer, and that the actual thought process may occur differently for different people. I'm gonna move on to gaslighting anons into believing a harp plays in non-NPCs' heads when they recall past events.>>16774600Yes. I don't know what the gag is either. Were we supposed to think the sound effect was something else, but then it was a chew toy? I don't know. But it was an example I could find online for free where the main character doesn't speak.Yesterday seemed to at least have some subversion of expectations.
>>16771553I am a compulsive day dreamer
>>16774647>I'm gonna move on to gaslighting anons into believing a harp plays in non-NPCs' heads when they recall past events.Wait, I thought it was like that for everyone? Are non-harp-hearers even fully human? How do you cure alyralia?
>>16771510>>16774062>His "inner voice" isn't several voices that serve as a mental council for decision making that drafts laws, creates agreements and regularly debate over topics from the state of the universe to what should I eat for dinnerNgmi.
>>16775507>Tru dat. Btw, wtf is for dinner? Smells good.Ngmi
>>16774587I thought it was Garfield talking to the audience. That's why he's looking at us. You just gave me a totally new perspective on how to see these things.
>>16771510What gets me are the people that can’t picture things in their mind. Do those people also not dream? A dream is just images in your mind. None of it actually makes sense. Maybe they don’t have souls.