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horse anatomy while horse wearing jeans edition


no giving/asking for medical advice or psyche patients
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>>16790504
best ankii/notes or flashcards for learning about bacteria and virus info/notes from MCAT prep. GO
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>>16790537
i dont have any
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>>16790567
sucks
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/med/ is /dead/
time of death: the weekend. time of death: right now rn
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>>16790537
>MCAT
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Most doctors are fine but the evil doctors are psychiatrists.

If someone has cancer do you forcibly give them chemo? No. It's their choice.

If someone is distressed do you forcibly give them antipsychotics? Unfortunately this does happen, but it shouldn't.

Of course the public should be kept safe if a distressed person is dangerous. But we should do that without forcibly giving people shitty antipsychotic drugs.
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Life-saving pepcid
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premeds are pathetic
can't even help with my research
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>>16790898
Evil Dentist is a thing.
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>>16791166
whenever i was forced to help people with research, i purposely fucked it up. fuck you and your free labor.
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>>16791166
whats your research
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>>16790901
thats a sexy horse anon
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Is AI good for studying for shelf exams? I haven't touched it all yet
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>>16790898
literally every doctor and dentist is a hack
except psychiatrists
my shrink saved my life
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>>16791605
Brave and beautiful aon, you will no doubt be ruthlessly attacked by the schizos for your acceptance of treatment and willingness to move forward with managing your psychiatric illness
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>>16791620
Big Schizo(TM) doesn't want you to know that medicine, generally, has to actually work to continue existing and that no field of medicine undergoes greater scrutiny by the public than psych
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>>16790770
>cause of death:
>premeds
>psych patients
>that one pakistani avatar fag
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>>16791698
How can laypeople be so confidently stupid, while we are so timid and scared to say anything that could be even slightly inflammatory?
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>>16791620
>>16791622
No schizo wants to medicate and I was no exception.
But my shrink told me something that changed my life.
In fact I believe this phrase should be added to psychiatry manuals.

I was ranting about how my schizophrenia is a good thing, because it expands my brain.
And the drugs are limiting me.
And in the past I would be worshiped as a shaman.
Yada yada, typical schizo stuff.

And then he said:
>OK let's assume everything you tell me is true.
>Do you really prefer life without meds?
>Or do you enjoy it more when medicated?

And then it hit me. Idgaf if the drugs are limiting me or whatever. Life is more enjoyable when medicated rather than being in a constant war with hallucinations and delusions.
And that's when I decided I would keep taking my meds.
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>>16791656
What's the reference to on the last one?
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Can someone give me a new invite link to the /med/ discord my old account got banned
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There was a fucking /med/ discord? What kind of shit happens in there?
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>>16791922
Surprisingly less drama than you would think but I fear if they post the invite here all the undesirables that plague this thread will join
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>>16791927
I've been in here for years... where's my invite? Do you guys talk about medicine or is it just a bunch of guys who happen to be in medicine just talking about other stuff?
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>>16791656
pol
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>>16791930
It's not really strict so it can be one or the other depending on whatever is going on
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send me an invite. my email is totallynotaschizo@psychpatient.moe
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med bros
I'm not asking for advice, but just curious if this is normal and/or makes sense:
>be me
>get flu/covid last year
>soon after develop eczema patches on my fingers, only my fingers
>itchy, dry, scaly, randomly breaks open from movement
>lotion makes it worse, but helps the rest of my skin
>bandaids with aquaphor prevent broken skin from being contaminated
>get flu/covid 2 weeks ago
>get through it in about a week
>eczema patches clearing up now
I never got tested but from what I've heard it's a bit more likely that both of these were covid. I live in a college town and both cases hit as soon as students came back for fall classes.
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>>16791988
you do not fit in
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>>16791605
If you had a good experience with psychiatry then fair enough. I just think patients should have a choice regarding whether they receive "treatment" or not. Patients should have the right to refuse antipsychotics.

>>16791620
I'm not a schizo, my diagnosis is only depression and anxiety. Yet I was still locked up in mental hospital (not the worst part) and I was drugged against my will (that's the worst part).

>>16791622
Antipsychotics "work" at making patients docile and compliant. But do they work at helping the patient have a successful future? I'm not so sure. When I was in mental hospital I saw patients on antipsychotics who were just completely dependent on the health system. Their antipsychotics allowed them to vegetate, but the drugs didn't allow them to have a normal, active, successful life.

>>16791855
Interesting. Do you have a productive life when you're on meds? I don't have schizophrenia myself, my diagnosis is depression and anxiety, but I have tried psych drugs multiple times. Antidepressants and antipsychotics. Perhaps they help me sometimes, but I'm not sure I trust the drugs, especially when I read about their side effects.
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5 weeks left on sub-i's then I can finally relax
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>>16792674
pol
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>>16792827
idgi
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is it done this way intentionally (to aspirate into the needle)?
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Holy shit bros I would've aced my peds shelf if we were using the Trump method of loading the baby with 80 vaccines at the first pediatrician visit instead of splitting them up over the first 10 years+ of life
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>>16791166
>DO MY RESEARCH REEE!!
No. Go fuck yourself.
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>>16791314
>>16793417
again, pathetic premeds
literal babies

>>16791356
retrospective study on recurrent h&n cancer s/p definitive chemoradiation on outcomes with reRT with canadian vs quadshot vs sbrt vs brachy
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>>16792803
>Patients should have the right to refuse antipsychotics.
You do have the right.
Unless you are a danger to yourself or others, nobody is gonna force you.

But if you are a danger, now we are stepping into legal territory.
So if you wanna blame someone blame the legislators not the doctors.

If the law said they must lock you up for refusing cancer treatment, the doctors sure as hell would.

This isn't an issue with psychiatry but a social one.
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>>16793525
sounds boring. talk to me about myopia management and i might care
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>>16793609
eyes are boring af
ophtho is a meme specialty
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>>16792523
The first time you got covid you ended up starting to do some habit that gave you eczema, when you got it a second time you quit that habit. Figure out what habit you dropped.
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>>16793525
Are you even a Physician or are you just some lowly r*searcher with a mere phd
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>>16792803
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>been on /med/ since 2018
>meme discord server still exists
discord trannies will be rooted out and shot
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My company is hiring foreskin engineers
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>>16793860
discord is bad but poltards are worse
discord is bad for poltards because you people can finally get banned
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>>16793541
Fair point, it is a legal issue.
>Unless you are a danger to yourself or others, nobody is gonna force you.
It's just a judgement though isn't it. And it's in the interests of doctors (and other health professionals) to play it safe. They might think there's a very small chance of a patient being dangerous, but if that patient does do something stupid, the doctors will get in trouble. So it's in the interests of doctors to cover themselves by liberally drugging patients.

>>16793634
Is it at all surprising that human beings don't like it when they're forcibly drugged?

Would you like to be forcibly drugged? Maybe you'll say "oh yes if I was in a really bad mental state, I would trust the doctors to drug me in the right way". In reality though, if you were forcibly drugged, you probably wouldn't like it.
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you dont fit in
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>>16793997
what happened to your rat slut avatar?
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Truly the GOAT of all specialties. The lowest malpractice rate there is. Impossible to fuck up. [spoiler]Unless you're an NP[/spoiler]
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The idea that a real doctor is using 4chan is fucking horrifying and you all need to be disbarred
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>>16794001
>And it's in the interests of doctors (and other health professionals) to play it safe.
no not the good ones.
the good ones know that the greatest danger is you deciding to stop your meds
so they "play it safe" by giving you the minimum dose to keep you safe but also with the minimum side-effects possible

and anyway even if you are detained in an asylum and then released and you initially agree to take your meds
after a while it's gonna be up to you to keep taking them
the doctor will not come to your house to force you to take them

you can still stop any time you want and if you don't relapse behaviorally, nobody will ever know

anyway yeah psychiatrists can limit your freedom and perhaps a tyrannical one decide to commit you without reason or because he is a psycho or whatever

but that's usually what happens in the movies
this has not been my experience
and in reality there are multiple safeguards to protect against that
in the end a court will decide whether your freedoms need to be limited indefinitely, not a doctor
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>vaccines and tylenol bad
>meanwhile fda approves expensive stuff without trials even to back them up
capitalism will end medicine, the best is behind us
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>Vaccines
eradicated diseases and literal plagues. smallpox, typhus, diphteria, polio, tetanus...eradicated hib meningitis, SSPE, rubella encephalitis, hep B...
>tylenol
one of the safest meds EVER, just werks. nurse made a mistake and gave double dose - whatever... take it for years, no matter. best drug for febrile kids ever
obviously no drug is perfect but tylenol comes pretty damn close. And most importantly - cheap af, which is why corporats want it gone, they've wanted tylenol gone for decades now but they just can't beat it lol
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As a med student, I know that I should go to a gp and get referred for an endoscopy over my partial colon blockage which has now recurred several times over several months and this time is keeping me from shitting anything substantial for the past three days and causing sharp pain and pressure in my descending colon
But as a broke man with no insurance, I am hoping the exlax will fix it for now when it kicks in in a few more hours
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>>16794161
>The doctors who don't get malpractice claims are those who treat children and psych patients - people who cannot fight back
Pretty interesting isn't it.

>>16794205
>no not the good ones.
>the good ones know that the greatest danger is you deciding to stop your meds
>so they "play it safe" by giving you the minimum dose to keep you safe but also with the minimum side-effects possible
Maybe some psychiatrists are like that. In my experience, when I was a psych patient in mental hospital, I saw patients who were in there for long periods of time, on drugs. Some of the patients were in and out (they were discharged for a while, then were brought back). The doctors were stressed because they had quite a few patients. So I guess they just thought "fuck it I'll just put this person on an antipsychotic to reduce the chance of them acting out in a way which might risk my career".
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Should I get my paramedic?
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Give it to me straight lads. Is it better to have bowel movements in the morning right after breakfast or after dinner, but about an hour or two before sleep? I find it hard having them in morning as I only have them right before leaving for work and many a times I find myself controlling it after pooping only a little as it takes about an hour or two of intermittent bowel movements to empty myself. However I also fear that retraining my bowel movements towards the night can fuck my circadian rythms and ruin my longevity. So, is it unsafe to my bowel movements at night or it doesn't matter?
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is going into psychiatry worth it? im on path for a psychology degree rn, thinking about completing pre med requirements and going to med school after im done. it's either med school or i just go on to get masters in psychology
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>>16794335
>Maybe some psychiatrists are like that. In my experience, when I was a psych patient in mental hospital, I saw patients who were in there for long periods of time, on drugs. Some of the patients were in and out (they were discharged for a while, then were brought back). The doctors were stressed because they had quite a few patients. So I guess they just thought "fuck it I'll just put this person on an antipsychotics to reduce the chance of them acting out in a way which might risk my career".
Yeah these are the unsalvageable ones.
When I was involuntarily incarcerated in the mental asylum, I was given like only a few pills.

But the patients who were there for a while, were literally taking like 30 each time.

Tbh it's so boring and depressing in there, that even a sane person would beg to be medicated just to pass the time.

But you got out and I got out, and that means the system works to some degree.

For the truly bad cases there is nothing you can do other than medicate them to stupor, just like there's nothing you can do for a terminal cancer patient rather than pump him full of opioids.

In fact this would be the most humane treatment for terminal psych patients as well.
A life on opioids is quite enjoyable, if you don't have to worry about anything else. Even locked inside a cage, if you got opium and cigarettes it's a fulfilling life.
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>>16794462
just poop when you need to, man. and if you cant, holding it cant be too bad since youll just shit yourself if you need to go bad enough.
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>>16794462
You’re supposed to take one shit a day within two hours of waking up. This is considered baseline normal. If you’re doing anything else other than this something isn’t right.
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>>16794698
>sauce:literally my bleeding ass
>>16794628
I can't whenever I want as the restrooms in my office are dog shit and even if they're clean, I'm viscerally disgusted by restrooms that many random strangers had used
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>>16794495
Go into PM&R it's what you actually want to do. You're going to insist that it isn't but trust me, 9/10 people who think they want to do psych end up liking PM&R better because of the reasons they liked Psych. Shadow a physiatrist and you'll see. Super underrated.
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Why do my consultants keep insisting on using psychodynamic theory to explain psychopathology? Am I too much of a brainlet to understand this shit because it reads like hogwash to me.
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>>16794169
We dont take the bar
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Please limit discussion to real medical specialties that actually practice medicine
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>>16794501
>For the truly bad cases there is nothing you can do other than medicate them to stupor
There are probably different things that can be done. But society doesn't care of course. For society, distressed people are just an inconvenience. And psychiatric drugs are cheap. So society chooses to drug distressed people into a state of zombification, because it's convenient.
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>>16794501
>>16795248
Also
>Tbh it's so boring and depressing in there, that even a sane person would beg to be medicated just to pass the time.
Yes I was bored in there sometimes but I still wouldn't choose to be drugged in there. I actually spent a fair amount of time in there without taking drugs, until they decided to drug me against my will. I much preferred the time in there when I wasn't drugged. I chatted to patients, played cards, that kind of thing. Sometimes it was boring but I'd rather be bored than drugged.
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will doctors prescribe tylenol to women now that the govt says it causes autism or will it open them up to lawsuits if their kid gets autism?
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>>16793630
brainlet specialties won't understand a tenth of what i am doing
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>>16794169
you would preffer a redditor to treat you?
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>>16794169
>disbarred
retard brainlet lefty
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hi all :3

they are gone. post medthings
tell me what I should know, and how to learn about the virus/bacteria section of the MCAT prep books, and ankii or some other flash cards things to help me memorize things
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>>16795553
I think the pharmacist is legally responsible in these cass, but paracetamol (Tyrenol isnt ibuprofen right?) is OTC so idk why it would require a script
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>>16795250
Yeah yeah typical schizo.
I bet you've done all sorts of hard drugs to end up a schizo.
But no the "doctor drugs" are evil, but the drugs you buy off a zombie nigger on the street are "good drugs".
Typical schizo.
Friendly reminder that heroin was invented by doctors, Bayer to be specific.

If schizos lived in the 1900s they would loathe to be medicated with heroin, because the evil doctor said so.
But today when it's illegal they will literally suck zombie nigger dick to get it.

That's why you are a schizo.
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if I were born 300 years ago I would be taking heroin responsibly for toothache or something
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>>16796282
>MCAT
Do mcat prep. I did Princeton review. Go away, come back when you're done with clinical rotations.
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I FUCKING HATE HAVING TO DEAL WITH SPICS WHO CANT SPEAK ANY ENGLISH. LEARN THE FUCKING LANGUAGE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
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>>16796400
1. I'm not diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other form of psychosis
2. Illegal drugs were nothing to do with why I ended up in mental hospital - I was just stressed out due to life events
3. You're an idiot
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>>16796650
>hey Alexa, play dispazito
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>>16796992
then stop talking out of your ass you absolute faggot
most people there are schizos who were dragged screaming and kicking against their will
not some little attention whores like yourself who got depressed and went crying to the shrink
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>>16797028
>then stop talking out of your ass
I'm not. I've been in mental hospital and I've seen what it's like.
>most people there are schizos who were dragged screaming and kicking against their will
Some patients in there are schizophrenics. Others are people who got into bad life situations and some doctor decided they were a suicide risk.
>not some little attention whores like yourself who got depressed and went crying to the shrink
I didn't do that. I didn't reach out to any doctors at all. Someone I knew contacted mental health services and they took me into hospital against my will.
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>>16796500
>>16796500
I will be posting here during clinical rotations time. to get experience working in a building so that I can learn more from this place at the same time
this post didnt send yesterday :(
and didnt send today because I was still connected to the VPN
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My colon continues to heal from its retard spasm fusing itself shut, and I feel much better, and yet with every passing day my impulse to stab something into my left side and slice it open grows stronger.
How do patients do it?
Physical ailments are so maddeningly inconvenient.



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