I am working as a postdoc and I love it, I kind of just want to keep doing this forever. Is there a career path that allows this?I mostly do mathematics with applications to information theory and if I stretch it also to machine learning. I have a huge passion for research but mostly from a purely foundational perspective, I just want to understand and elucidate the math behind all this stuff. I don't want to work on commercial products or on whatever current flavor-of-the-week AGI that is going to take all jobs.I understand that a professor position would be a perfect match, but I also don't feel passionate about teaching at all and I don't see myself spending half my time teaching undergrads. I don't enjoy it, I'm not good at it, I would hate it, the students would hate it, literally nobody would benefit from this, and it would just reduce my time to work on research.What kind of jobs are there for people who just want to do research? Like an eternal postdoc but with some job stability and a non-shit salary. I found positions like this in some places in Europe (e.g. CNRS) but they miss the "non-shit salary" requirement by far. I also see that jobs like this seem to exist in Asia (China, Japan) but there are not many foreigners working there so I'm not sure what it's like.I don't mind relocating but I would like to ask for advice when it comes to a career path like this.
>>16790807>I understand that a professor position would be a perfect matchThis sentence reveals it’s a larp.
>>16790851What? I just mean the people working on pure sciences and more "useless" foundational stuff are typically in academia.
>postdoc>asking for advice on fucking 4channel's /sci/ boardlmfao
>>16790807>I understand that a professor position would be a perfect matchIt's your only match>but I also don't feel passionate about teaching at allThat's most professors>I don't see myself spending half my time teaching undergradsIt's fine because you won't become a professor anyway, not with the job market collapsing>I found positions like this in some places in Europe (e.g. CNRS) but they miss the "non-shit salary" requirement by farYou're looking for an impossible job. Research has shit salary and shit job security, especially theoretical research. If you really want to do this, you need to be fine eating shit for the rest of your life. Just ask your profs and they'll corroborate.
>>16790807That is practically impossible, and as far as I know, Microsoft Labs hire mathematicians such as Leslie Lamport. And they hire very few.Also, get nore help at >>>/sci/scg>>16790914Yes, it works. /scg/ is super confy and with a FAQ.
>>16790914/sci/ may often seem like it's largely just the 0.999...!=1 schizo crowd, but there's plenty of people in academic and senior stem jobs here as well
>>16790807>Like an eternal postdoc but with some job stability and a non-shit salary. I found positions like this in some places in Europe (e.g. CNRS) but they miss the "non-shit salary" requirement by far.You're probably not good enough to apply here:https://www.mis.mpg.de/research/research-groupsThere's also other publicly funded research institutes in Germany but you have to do the research yourself.
>>16790807This kind of job only exists as a professorship unless you get something like working at the institute at princeton, but I'd wager you wouldn't be able to land that. Accept your fate and teach undergrads for very little money like the rest of us
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>and if I stretch it also to machine learningML researcher is an incredible but very competitive role that pays well (especially with experience)>I don't want to work on commercial products or on whatever current flavor-of-the-week AGI that is going to take all jobs.thats the industry. companies make products, thats where money comes from. im a science man myself but if you want to make money, you have to go where money is made. shocking i know.
Professors don't do research, you dumbass.
>>16790807Very good question! If you want ~100% of your time for researching what YOU want, indeed you'd need to land something like a CNRS (not bad salary if you're in a small city, terrible salary for Paris) or land a position at a nice institute like Perimeter or IAS where any extra duty (mentoring, teaching, etc...) is voluntary.Now, there is a good option for people that don't speak French, which is resesarch position at National Labs, Government Agencies (GCHQ at UK, NSA at the US, DoD labs, etc...), or Industry (lots of Machine Learning positions with research tasks) where you can have a position in which a fraction of your time can be for researching what you want (maybe 20% to 70%) and the rest in what your employer / your government wants.Good luck anon, Machine Learning is in a nice hiring bubble right now so get that bag
>>16795876>Perimeterfuckkk imagine having to live in Waterloo for the rest of your life
>>16790807>what are national labs?
>>16790914everyone here is one of 3 things>phd holder>phd student>78iq high school dropout with paranoid schizophrenia
>>16797687So it's just midwits and retards all the way down?
>>16797694yesall the smart people are off making money and pulling teenage pussy on /soc/ or /r9k/
