2025 PN7 - editionprevious>>16789450
first for big mike
i love being collared
>>16792188schizo-drive status?
gay
>>16792190acoustic instability is completely unmanageable in real time with the actuators they havethe engines do not throttle, nor do they gimbal fast enough to suppress unwanted resonance modes fast enougha single errant wavefront is enough to completely fuck everything3 engines are much easier to detune than 33simple asyou have annoyed me so much I've copied the post over from the previous thread so if you were trying to troll, you've just won
Fuck that shitass mars rock, I hope it is barren of any evidence of life
>>16792206more smaller engines > fewer large enginesYou get DRAMATICALLY more reliability with engine out redundancy. need I repeat myself another time?
>>16792203Working and about to change the world.
anyone have big mike's book I dont feel like converting us dollars into British pounds it makes my freedom organ feel sick
>In addition to Monterrey Mexico, the proposed flight path dodges overflights of major US cities like San Diego, Phoenix, and El Paso, Texas.So, you guys luck out.
If the quantum vacuum energy stuff turns out true then it instantly solves the fermi paradox. We have been looking for ayy signatures around stars, but if you can draw infinite energy from free space why would you ever go anywhere near a star? They are death traps. Takento the extreme maybe ayys would loiter in intergalactic space to keep far from any of the chaotic events of a galaxy.
>>16792218Imagine being an earther in a flyover town / city that is deemed worthless enough to risk for space ambitions.
>Starship reentry flight path shows the vehicle beginning its reentry over the Pacific Ocean, then passing over Baja California and soaring above Mexico's interior near the cities of Hermosillo and Chihuahua, each with a population of roughly a million people."!Ay no!"
Less than 2 days and /sfg/ has forgotten that Mars is DEBUNKED. We ARE NOT going
>>16792223How are they going to get permission from Mexico?
>>16792225mice gene activation, a single studyfar from conclusive evidence
>>16792210won't make it more truemore engines, more chance that two or more will enter a resonance mode, with immediate catastrophic results
>>16792225Not forgotten, I choose to ignore this. We ARE going.
>>16792228FAA thing, so Mexico is outside their authority. Nations can bitch at each other government to government and undoubtedly there will be lawsuits making up magical new interpretations of existing law, but that's probably more of a nuisance than impediment.
https://x.com/FutureJurvetson/status/1969855376129659252>The latest rocket launch market share report just dropped >SpaceX launched 88.5% of all satellites in Q2, on track to hit the 90% share @ElonMusk predicted for the rest of 2025.>By weight lofted to orbit, SpaceX did 86% of the global total. And it’s a power law; once you remove #1, China’s CASC did more than everyone else combined.>The inset boxes are enlarged so you can see the long tail of contenders.
>>16792225WTF is HGCand how do you test G < 1.0 without running a rotating floor in space
>>16792221There is actually more factors that play into this that involve weirder than allowed topics, but yes, ZPE tapping is one of them. No need for dyson swarms or radio signals or any of the conventional understanding of how ET would work. If the energy densities in the vacuum are as high as some people think they are, it could enable FTL shenanigans as well. Manipulation of vacuum energy could allow for warp tech which is likely what ayys are using over primitive chemical propulsion. we better hope it's all true because honestly it's the only way we colonize anything past pluto. All of the alternatives to chemical have serious downsides. nuclear thermal, nuclear electric, etc etc. all of them are pretty bad.>>16792232https://youtu.be/ki5UBcXOIUsNo. Redundancy is vastly better and it's not even close. the math is absolutely absurd. The more reliable the engine is the more absurdly good redundancy becomes. Gets to a point where you have several orders of magnitude advantage over single engine solutions in terms of reliability. cascading failures are not a thing. you can just shut down an engine if it's acting funny because you can afford to do so due to redundancy.There is a reason every single rocket company is using multi engine solutions. More is better. Pair that with the already mentioned benefits for manufacturing cost and scale and it's completely a no brainer especially on reusable vehicles.
>>16792243
>>16792215It would help if you gave a title and author so others know wtf you're talking about.
>>16792239So does SpaceX not have to get permission from Mexico?
>>16792248Quantised Accelerations: From Anomalies to New Physics
>>16792245you are probably just under 110 IQ, ideal middle management materialyou can have perfectly reliable engines. if they happen to start "singing" in phase, the rocket will go kablooey
>>16792228>>16792239The precedent was set back in Sputnik: you don't get to contest your airspace when spacecraft fly over it.
>>16792252funny how that's not an issue with falcon 9 at all and it's one of the most reliable rockets to ever exist.
>>16792255fewer engines, fewer chances for it to happenwhich has been my contention all along
>>16792246>in one quarter SpaceX launched 50% as much mass as the Space Shuttle did over 30 years
>>16792253But the starship won't be in space when it overflies Mexico.
>>16792260Firstly: close enoughSecondly: I don't think they're physically capable of sending anything up to complain.
>>16792259a monument to the truly cosmic proportions of NASA grift and incompetence
>>16792259>lets make the worst possible vehicleand so the shuttle was produced
>>16792203According to the IVO CEO they've got it activated and doing short duration burns so far with plans for longer duration burns to prove it works coming soon eta:who knowsATP its just active on a spacecraft and may or may not change and disrupt everything or it will be a fucking nothingburger
>>16792253Not for an orbiting object. A transiting in the atmosphere, ascending or descending object are different. Still, it's usually a nation to nation treaty issue, such as Cold War Era over flights.
Two weeks. Okay, four.
>>16792262Most of the mass sent up was starlink. Shuttle had no starlink.
New NASA Astronauts getting announced tomorrow. Is /sfg/ - Spaceflight General excited?https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/astronaut-candidate-selection-announcement/
>>16792270whats that supposed to mean? starlink is actually very useful
>>16792270Shuttle had been planned to launch and service a whole lot of national security payloads that turned out to be cheaper and easier to launch in other waysthere really is no way to excuse any of it
>>16792271theyre more likely than not never going to go to the ISS right? They will exclusively be moon and mars trained I believe
>random person on another corner of the internet that happens to have an interest in spaceflight also happens to know what sfg is when i bring it ups-small world h-haha
>>16792277They say they'll get trained for low earth orbit, but no specific mention of the ISS. Who knows?
>>16792272uhhmmmm shartlink is destroying the Ozone layer????
>>16792272It's supposed to mean shuttle didn't have any starlink to launch.>>16792273It was too ambitious. Kind of ass-backward how they ended up doing a disposable booster stage while attempting to make a fully reusable upper stage considering how that's the super hard part with the giant payload penalty.
>>16792281This place used to be so active and lively, but the anti-anime schizo drove everyone out with his tantrums as soon as you posted a single reaction image or any Clear image (official VTuber of JAXA now), sad.
you aren't on /a/
>>16792289no it's your insistance on posting r*cketg*rls and clear for every fart and throwing a tantrum for hours when anyone called you a spamming fag that drove everyone off instead
>>16792290what anime is clear from
>President Trump, Elon Musk reunite at Charlie Kirk funeral service after bitter feudBoys, we're getting the band back together. Mars in 2026!
>>16792295>scratch my back ill scratch yours>bring back Jared
>>16792295Forgiveness is powerful
If aliens exist they are almost certainly here alreadyGiven the age of the universe 14ga (likely even older if recent JWST findings are legitimate) the number of planets, stars, and galaxies, it is highly unlikely that there aren't other intelligences out there. Because of how young our civilization is, and the mean time between civilizations likely being large, any civilizations that do exist must necessarily be vastly older than we are.If we can put up a space telescope that can characterize exoplanet atmospheres, they will be able to do it 10, 100, maybe even a 1000 times better. Entire factories that pump out a massive constellation of super Webbs, all automated, all looking for signs of life, all linked to a massive AI super computer that can analyze the massive amounts of data to detect promising planets and then automatically build and send out probes to every single one. This feat would be easy for a civilization a couple thousand years ahead of us let alone a million. There is no way aliens don't already know about earth and know it's habitable. They would likely have known for thousands or millions of years and have been monitoring earth for that entire time period. They have had at least 2 billion years to find earth. They are here now and studying us. Of course the question is "why don't they land on the Whitehouse lawn?" and the reason is simple, they have no reason to do so (yet), as they have nothing to gain and everything to lose from open contact. it would only cause problems with their study. If your goal is to study human civilization you wouldn't show up and say "hey we are here ok bye". Knowledge of our existence would have an effect on their behavior and it would result in a global Hawthorne effect and ruin the whole study. Not ideal to say the least. There would be necessarily be a strong resistance to open contact and protocols put in place to limit impacting the native population. basically star trek was right all along.
>>16792295https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1969873679027761311
>>16792300Yeah I saw them at eagle pass, TX
>>16792300>Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
>>16792293Clear is from the KanColle doujinshi 'Houshou-san is not Young'
>>16792316Clear mentioned!
>>16792316what the fuck is that flesh at the bottom of the picture? Are you missing a thumb?
>>16792316clear confirmed for 50 year old man
>>16792059He looks much better when clean-shaven.
>>16792320He's the guy with the nasty toe-thumb. Hiding it.
>>16792344like the basement ogre from /tv/?
spehs
So I brought this up last thread, but if hawking radiation is the result of blackholes interfering with the frequency modes of the quantum vacuum and producing what appears to be real particles, wouldn't static Casimir cavities, which also interfere with the frequency modes of the quantum vacuum, also result in something like hawking radiation?
>>16792352that's just the casimir effect
>>16792348For normgorids FH ws a big event, but it was really a nothingburger. the first sucessful F9 landing was the all time peak of SpaceX kino.
>>16792354thats what I'm trying to figure out. shouldn't hawking radiation and the Casimir effect be linked?
>>16792357not really
>>16792357all i know is my sex life and your mom should be linked.
>>16792225Mice are so tiny they virtually have no skeleton anyway Human skeleton is under much heavier load even at .33g
>>16792245Multi engines is also what makes rocket landing possible
>>16792300>They are here now and studying us.Thing is, they wouldn't want to be studied themselves (with success.) It would cause problems, like you said. They would see the value in creating decoys and silly hoaxes. That explains why it's not a respectable topic either way. It's like somewhere between poli-sci and theology.
>>16792372multi-engine is fine unless you overdo it
>>16792281>when i bring it upretard
>>16792373There is merit in that idea. in order to prevent themselves from being noticed and thus limit overall impact on society they might purposely seed ridiculous stories as a way to steer the general public away from looking into the subject. That's something I haven't considered before.There is also the idea of "contact primers".Open contact can have a huge impact on a society and that impact can be largely negative if you aren't careful. to lessen that impact you can do "primer" events that prepare a populace for open contact.Many years prior to open contact you would do limited contact with a small number of people in a way that is ambiguous and impossible to definitively prove as a way to insert the idea of other intelligences into the public zeitgeist without resorting to full open contact. you show yourself without actually showing yourself.These events get people talking, and the idea of other intelligences existing spreads. over time people discuss and come to terms with this potential reality. The idea becomes cemented into culture through stories and media. newer generations become far more comfortable since they are exposed to the idea from birth. That way, many years later, when the time comes for open contact (because that civilization has reached some criteria), they don't suffer as large of a societal and ontological shock as they would otherwise. I'm very much in favor of this idea because it's pretty much what we have seen over the last 100 years right? people are more comfortable with the idea of aliens than every before in human history and that is in part because of how much we talk about those outlandish stories. It's an interesting thing to think about.
Elon christfag arc
>>16792393God I hope not.
>>16792393Space travel needs to run on a deep entrenched cultural prayer life, I need as many people roughing it as possible to expand human presence on to the moon and mars and beyond and they will have no comfort save for christ's victory on the cross
>>16792396uhhh thats heckin problematic we will have Science, Reason and Common Sense to guide us and our decisions
>>16792382they are extremely up to date so i asked where they get their newsi said i get it from a special place and the asked what special place
>>16792188THE TALL WHITESA series of interviews with the tall whitesTall White Aliens #1: Anatomy of their body / Digestive system / Reproductive systemhttps://youtu.be/GRvgbF1SCuc?si=19gTb5iK0deXHSmX Tall White Aliens #2: Emotional System / Main life purpose / Aginghttps://youtu.be/UKCK3kEEj-E?si=4eUpGi7Yecp1nppC Tall White Aliens #3: Origins/ Shelter/ Facial traits/ Games/ Gravityhttps://youtu.be/q5gqAQWIrf4?si=Qi4NYItxWIQzrb77 Tall White Aliens #4: Energy Manipulation / Healing Humans / Interacting with Humans / Use of AIhttps://youtu.be/eQSFMC9vyE4?si=37KEPAkr4b2Llsbc Tall White Aliens #5: Mining Asteroids / Soul / Detecting Trauma Signatures in Humanshttps://youtu.be/YWDIQjJeObs?si=9aT2g4xi04eWuWfK
>>16792408Low confidence on these.
>>16792393like von Braun
https://youtu.be/lfrmItbvTC0Ignore the schizo, this is the REAL aliens
>>16792408Blud.
High confidence (massive number of consistent reports)>Greys>Mantids>HybridsMedium confidence (smaller number of reports with consistent details)>Nordics>ReptiliansLow confidence (like one or two people and inconsistent details)>Tall whitesBullshit (made up by novelists)LyransBird peopleLittle blue guysOthers
>>16792422Aliens aren't real dumbass
>>16792428not the cat people ones no. the little grey guys are real. I've seen them. others have as well. not fun to be around. creepy little fellas. Punch them if you can.
>>16792430Are there any cute aliens
>>16792431the hybrids can be as can the nordics but I've never seen either of those as far as I can recall and I'm not sure the nordic types exist.
>>16792431They are...
>>16792431No excuses bitch we just cured autism
>>16792439>we just cured autismWe have? What are you still doing here then
>>16792439for children not for adults where the damage is already done
>>16792300The reason aliens don't contact us isn't because they have some galactihomo enforcing protections of primitives for science or whatever, it's because they understand that you don't stick your hand in the crab bucket. Them learning to not get dragged down by crabs is exactly what allowed them to become advanced species in the first place.
>>16792443This. If you give the mon'keigh an inch, they'll take a mile. And we have no business having nuclear weapons at our tech level. It's only because of that fortuitous Shinkolobwe deposit which gave us a massive head start for the Manhattan Project.
>>16792436These guys are just a bunch of creeps, weirdos, and jackasses.
>>16792447Yeah I feel that the novelty would wear off immediately and aliens (if they real) would become just another variety of asshole.
>>16792430
>>16792445this is the alternate hypothesis as to why they are here. rather than being here to study us they are here to keep an eye on an up and coming civilization that might become dangerous. Consider how rapid our development has been so far. If they have been around for tens of thousands or millions of years they could be thinking about where we will be 500 years from now. Civilizational rise could be quick and dramatic. A civilization that isn't a big deal now could suddenly become a major player on the galactic scene in a relatively short time scale compared to the age of their own civilization. Think of the Tau from 40k for example.looking at it that way, seeing us go from horse and buggy to using nukes in a couple decades suddenly is a big deal. If we are willing to use nukes to blow each other up, how would we use the absurd energy levels that they are using to pull 5000G accelerations? how devastating would a ZPE bomb be, if that truly is what they are using to power their craft?
>>16792455This makes more sense if either the maximum achievable level of technology isn't that high or if reaching a point of rapid technological progress isn't uncommon. I'd actually say both are quite likely.
>>16792455>the (((Ethereals)))
>>16792462>reaching a point of rapid technological progress isn't uncommonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discoveryyou are probably right about that
>>16792436>catgirls>look inside>no fur
Waiter? More loud ass bagpipes blaring ‘amazing grace’ in my ear please!
https://x.com/KeatonFletcher3/status/1969950997868151242Some spacecraft/debris broke up over Texas tonight
>>16792507https://x.com/jamiesfocus/status/1969944132362641773
>>16792507>>16792508i can already hear the far left screeching about elon and spacex
>>16792228>mexico complaining about americans doing shit over their borderpfffft fuck them if they got a problem.
>>16792355I'd rank the tower catch equal with it just on pure spectacle alone
>>16792512>equalnot even close. they didn't nail the landing of the first f9 booster on their first real attempt. >>16792511we should threaten to drop starships on their heads if they don't take back their illegals tbqh
>>16792474Lewd
There won't be any life on Mars. It's just Nasa doing a publicity stunt.
>>16792508It's fucking aliens and don't even try to convince me otherwise
>>16792529>drunk aliens forgot to turn on their reentry forcefield and crashed
>>16792541warp drives don't experience reentry forces
>>16792541Not a bad explanation
There won't be any human travel to Mars. It's just Elon doing a publicity stunt.
There's no space. It's just a publicity stunt by photographers to share their cgi.
>>16792355Simultaneous booster landing was literally a once-ever event and hype as fuck.
>>16792206It simply is not a problem because they figured out how to fix it.
Trident II was launched by submarinehttps://xcancel.com/realidad_int/status/1969955465598472406https://x.com/etienne_marcuz/status/1967920008597581892https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/1nj0n2b/upcoming_trident_ii_slbm_test_w93mk7_or_new/speculation is that it's testing a hypersonic glide vehicle for golden dome
>>16792396We'll have Thoth, it'll be fine
>>16792422I thought Tall Whites was just another term for the Nordics
>>16792565fun stuff
>>16792407>they
>>16792568no but maybe also yes which is part of the reason I don't really like them. super inconsistent whereas the grey guys are pretty much always the same with very little deviation.
>>16792244There isn't a mouse-sized spinhab on the ISS is there?
>>16792300>Given the age of the universe 14ga (likely even older if recent JWST findings are legitimate) the number of planets, stars, and galaxies, it is highly unlikely that there aren't other intelligences out there.Given how young the universe is and how little of the mass in the universe is in the form of life supporting atoms right now, it's likely humanity is the first or among the very first intelligences to form in the universe.
>>16792436I wish their lore was a bit better. They tend to stray into Mary-Sue territory.I'm also weirded out about how people ignore that one of the stated goals of the Ariral's is to brainwash humanity into becoming their puppets by tainting the water supply.>>16792474According to the lore, their sweat is toxic to humans, causing headaches, nausea, and horrific hallucinations. To the point walking into a Ariral gym/sauna can cause a human to be affected.(If you microdose it for long enough you can immunize yourself to it though.)
>>16792436Realizing that the invisible aliens are just he dev's OC donut steels from his horny middle school imagination ruined the game for me.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1969988976259092692
>>16792613How can I sex
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1969989563964854360
>>16792631get his ass
>>16792640ship 39 will save us
but I am already saved
>>16792631The fact that Elon is even responding to that fat piece of shit is troubling
Will God save starship?
>>16792631He's right. Starship is the sole reason Artemis can't land on the moon. SLS cadence is so snail pace slow because why rush when Starship aint coming for 5 more years.
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1969634998144888999kekThe NYTimes "Starship bad" article written by "former NASA admins" outed. Just some SLS and Constellation grifters along with Boeing colluder that got him fired.
>>16792188Space colonization is bad.
>>16792640>12 ships>not a single tankerconcerning
>>16792640It looks like they are waiting for the flight data of Flight 11 before they commit to a design for V3.
https://x.com/astrodanish/status/1969895553384558845
>>16792640>Ship 42What do they have planned for it?
>>16792631Kek
>>16792712hls demo
>>16792720scumbag.
>>16792696this program is still very much a test, a huge change in direction design and realignment of priorities is very much a possibility. there is no proof things will work as planned, so just change the roadmap. remember, these goals are aspirational, not a given, the full rapid reusability might be still out of reach.it might take a decade or longer from now before this thing is fully fleshed out. and even that is pretty fast in this business
>>16792735I don't understand any of this to be honestwhy go back down into a gravity well you've just escaped?
>>16792640why are they still using a V1 model? The front flaps on all of these are wrong
>>16792743predicting the final form of Starship is like predicting a future hurricane, earthquake, volcano, meteor strike, etcwe know that something is brewing, but we don't know how good it will be, or if it hits the target we wantcould be a dull thud, like a meaty turd hitting the pavement from a considerable distance. SX is just your phone bill company & spy agency until you dieonce I thought the Mars thing was happening but nah, money, duh
>>16792754I literally only care about the booster and that's production-ready nowif I had the money or the connections to get it I'd be building fabs and habs in LEO right now
>>16792743Fear of gravity is a typical giveaway for an Earther soul.
>>16792765Booster isnt ready. Needs at least 1 more iteration before it will become as reusable as Falcon. And optimistically by block 4 booster it will be more reusable than falcon (so finally economically sane) if everyhting goes perfectly. more realistically block 5.
>>16792679SLS is the sole reason Artemis can't go directly to LLO.>SLS cadence is so snail pace slowAlso true, but not the reason for Gatekee... er Gateway.
>>16792623>The invisible aliens are just he dev's OC donut steels from his horny middle school imaginationOkay, that explains quite a bit. I knew they felt Mary-sue-ish.
Final version of starship is ITS
>>16792641is b18 or b19 the first v3 booster?
>>1679283718
>>16792852>>16792837the graphics don't necessarily reflect what the actual booster looks like
>>16792188>herangesneaktYou don't hate journalists enough.>>16792396The first food and drink consumed on the moon was the Body and the Blood of Christ. This needs to happen on all celestial bodies.
Are ballistic missiles /sfg/?
>>16792613Arirals being a mary sue species is hot though. And so is them brainwashing us into loving them.
>>16792880If the missiles are intercepting space assets then yes. Otherwise no.
>>16792422what? did I wander into /x/ by mistake?
>>16792880Does their orbit go past the moon? No? Not spaceflight then, kiddo.
>>16792599>it's likely humanity is the first or among the very first intelligences to form in the universe.Earth has had life on it for like 3 billion years, just because it took a long time to get to humans here doesn’t mean a similar planet that formed at the same time wouldn’t have hit human intelligence 800 million years ago.
>>16792923So nothing SpaceX has done to date is spaceflight related?
>>16792931>
>>16792931tesla is going around mars
>>16792938ouch
>>16792930Something tells me that the evolution of complex multicellular organisms is fleetingly unlikely, let alone the insane amount of fortune that allowed European humans to emerge. Literally all it takes is for the climate to have been a few degrees warmer over the past 12 thousand years and the planet would have been boon-paradise and not evolved a single intelligent man.Earth itself is exceptionally rare, to have remained habitable over the eons may be itself something like 1 in 100 thousand, let alone the exact selection conditions that created us. Then add all the other insanely fortunate events and it's possible for me to believe that we could be alone in the galaxy at this time. Perhaps other galaxies are inhabited by creatures more advanced than us, maybe that will be how we discover aliens, but the starlight from these galaxies is too old to show them yet.
>>16792938>>16792942So only Falcon Heavy is spaceflight related?Whyall the Starship talk in this general when that is a LEO bus.
>>16792930There is zero proof of prior advanced civilizations on earth, therefore humanity must have developed as soon in our planets ecosystem as it is viable to.
>>16792952>There is zero proof of prior advanced civilizations on earththe earth constantly recycles it's crust. if there was an ancient civilization in the Silurian or some shit we would have no clue it ever existed because all of the evidence would have been erased by natural processes. better to look at dead worlds like mars for signs of past civilizations.
>>1679>>16792931Yes, unironically. They're a telecom first and foremost. Some publicity stunts don't change that. Starship is a LEO rocket btw and it hasn't even reached orbit. Not. Spaceflight.
>>16792955We have no proof of them existing, therefore they most likely did not exist.
>>16792958we also have a funding bias. and a current dogma which is resistant to new ideasdon't get me wrong. I'm not saying "there totally were Silurians bro" I'm just pointing out we haven't really even begun to look and it's a tad premature to say there is zero way there were any prior civilizations on earth or, more broadly, in the solar system. You don't try fishing a couple times in a lake, catch nothing, and then conclude fish don't exist. Maybe your methodology was wrong.Maybe you were fishing in the wrong place.Maybe you've already caught a fish but you didn't recognize it as one and threw it back. stuff like this happens all the time in science. Again, I would never call any of that "proof" but it pays to have an open mind because you might just miss the importance of what's in front of you.
>>16792903It's just one retard. They tend to come out after each SS flight. Ignore him and he'll move on.
>>16792965Let me add to this a little more with a - purely hypothetical - situation.We could have a big foot bone, one that if tested, would reveal itself definitively to be of a large non-human hominoid, Locked up somewhere in the Smithsonian. Not because of any conspiracy or government coverup,Not because of greedy capitalist forestry businesses,Not because of religious anti-evolution wackos,but because some naturalist in 1890whatever misclassified it as a bear femur, shoved it in a drawer, and no one has ever thought to look at it since. It's labeled bear, it's a bear. End of story. Turns out this has actually happened before many times with dinosaur specimens for a more prozaic example. We've discovered new species not out in the field, but in museum collections, mislabeled and misidentified as something completely different.All this to say we might very well have evidence already of some very extraordinary things and it's just a matter of the right person with the right perspective at the right time in the right place to put the pieces together. Who knows. I would like to remain open to those very unlikely possibilities.
I just got kicked out after gooning for 4 years instead of going to college.
>>16792975why did you do that
>>16792952>therefore humanity must have developed as soon in our planets ecosystem as it is viable to.This doesn't follow from your premise. Sure humanity was the first so far as we can tell but that certainly doesn't mean humanity was the first possible civilization. Earlier civs might've been possible, they just didn't happen.
>>16792955>if there was an ancient civilization in the Silurian or some shit we would have no clue it ever existed because all of the evidence would have been erased by natural processesThis is bullshit. We'd have a lot of evidence. Fossils for one. Yes even technology will fossilize. One thats pretty airtight that I've heard is metal deposits. We humans have dug a lot of metals out of the ground and the layer which we exist is where the majority of the metal we mined will stay when we are gone. So good evidence of intelligent civilization is a weird abundance of metals in one layer and strange depletion of metals before that layer.
>>16792623>while typing this i had the thought, if its so invincible how the fuck do they manage to shape it into anything. but then i realized they can just use vacuum decay to manipulate it.>the height of materials science is just more aluminum isogrid milling
>>16792984I worry about the availability of surface-level resources in the event of a civilization-ending event. Any future society attempting to rebuild will be able to salvage stuff that we've already processed, but what about things like coal or oil? The technology required to dig deep enough to find what's left might well be out of the reach of future peoples who are attempting to rebuild, even ores like gold seams have been mined out for a long time, at least the stuff you can gain access to with simple methods/tech.
What the fuck is Musk doing
>>16792992And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.
>>16792994As biomass it began, as biomass it shall returnAlthough in their case it'll be methane and gasified charcoal. Metal will be the tricky one but salvaging the old landfills will probably be most efficient
>>16792984That assumes they got to the point of producing enough metal for it to show in the rock record or that they stayed on earth long enough for that to happen and didn't take their stuff with them.
>>16793003lmao this thread of all threads should know you're not taking a substantial portion of earths metals with you to space when theres so much in space thats easily available.
>>16793006infinite up-mass big mike drives
>>16792992looks like a DeusEx character
Bennu in KSA.
>>16792994>but what about things like coal or oil?civilization ran on charcoal and olive oil for millennia before we figured out coal coal and cruse oil.
>>16793025>coal coal>cruse oiltotal ESL love
Next NASA astronaut class reveal stream in a few minutes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frX3-5xuGQs
>>16793030inb4 non-whites and women
>>16793030Why the fuck would I want to watch this knowing it will be woke DEI crap with only one white man and the rest BAME women? Go the fuck back to Preddit.
New astronaut class announcement, live
Holy ceremonyslop let’s get on with it
They Read Minds First | the Psychic Sasquatch–UFO Link Revealedhttps://youtu.be/tLnhTioqmvE?si=F9qbnt9jy23qOQl8
>>16793029hey man the s key is right next to the d key
>>16793032>>16793035>white guy>white lady>white guy>white guy>asian guy>white lady>white lady>white lady>white lady>white(?) ladyHuh, I expected DEI too but look at this.
>>16792630Give lottsa shrimp. :3
>>16793024Vid or it's fake.
Wait wtf Anna Menon?!
tldr if you want to be an astronaut in the big 25 you still need to be a doctor lawyer GI joe heavily-decorated military test pilot weapon system superman with 8 doctorates
>>16793032>>16793035What the fuck is with the spergs
>“We could always go back to Artemis,” MacDonald told Bridenstine.>“Artemis?” Bridenstine said, looking curious but also a bit confused. He was aware that Andy Weir had just published a novel with that title, but he couldn’t quite place the name.LOL
>>16792888>Arirals being a mary sue species is hot though.Wrong. I bet you like Chakats too you weirdo.
>>16793076Go back
>>16793067In Europe you need only be a limbless retard. Say what you will about Europeans, but they know better than anyone that any schmuck can be an astronaut.
>>16793067Feels like a waste to send those people to space so that they could do nothing in ISS
Today would be the perfect day to go out and look at some heavenly bodies with my telescope...
>>16793063Very cool, my queen
spitter is slowly becoming more based
>NASA is poaching SpaceX astronauts nowIt's over.
>>16793093the leftist-leaning ones either love SLS too much or outed themselves as pedos lmfao, I think it pushed all the centrists further right
>>16793098Or more realistically they are following their leader Elmo.
"We're Earth-lings. Let's blow up Earth-Things!"https://arxiv.org/html/2509.12351v1Found a use for Janus at least.
>>16793102even though it poses no serious threat, a mission to divert it would set a good precedent for planetary protection.
>>16793063>>16793091Nasa gets SpaceX sloppy seconds
"When i was a boy, blowing up the moon was just a beautiful dream. Now it's science fact."
>>16793030No need to look at their bios to figure out which women are fliers. lol
>>16792292kill yourself faggot
>>16793107who gets who's sloppy seconds?
>>16793102What if I WANT it to hit the moon?
>>16793113like haley’s comet?
>>16793114like your dad hit your mom idk
prop load started
jelquing begin
chances of a scrub tn?
>>1679313450/50
if it scrubs how many weeks until it launches again?
this is a dumb question but I'm assuming there are no possible geometries of a casimir cavity that would result in a unidirectional net pushing force? The plates would still get pushed together obviously, so it wouldn't be much use even if there was.
>>16793144Not a single word you said applies to the real world
>>16793144It’s like trying to extract spaceship movement from north and south magnets you brought with you. Or trying to fly using a crane on your spaceship to just lift you up in to orbit
>>16793158I figured as much.
Space will be inherited by aryans.
>>16793158>trying to fly using a crane on your spaceship to just lift you up in to orbitExplain how that wouldn't work without coming across like a 5 year old.
>>16793165>bottle blonde
>>16793165>posts a latino with fake dyed hair
>>16793168>>16793158Uhhhh...
tiles fell off... it's fucking over the fucking crunch wrap fucked the tps
>Anna Menon and Amil Menon now both NASA astronauts, Anna having medical experienceYou see where this is going right? Or do I need to spell it out for you lolo
>>16793179Anil*and* both having*man I messed that post up but yeah
>>16793179nasa is gonna force them to make baby in on the space station for science??
Imagine being the lucky guy stuck on a Dragon capsule with these two and Anna...
>>16793182they've definitely got reproductive experiments in mind
>>16793177why? from expansion?
truth be told I did not expect to see Anna there that was a huge shock, they mentioned none of her spaceflight experience probably due to not wanting her to spacemog the rest of the no spacers
is this the first time a commercial astronaut has become a government astronaut?
>>16793191Yes, couldn't be anyone more deserving of it either
I've successfully figured out how to land a babality on earth.You use a baby scapel and request permission from the space force b
brap
No one younger than 35 in that class I guess thats about average for astronaut candidates
NASA's gonna put Anna on Artemis III just to encourage SpaceX not to fuck it up and leave her stranded on the moon aren't they
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1970199664654983673
>The new astromutts are menopausal women"No we're not worried about space radiation and pregnancy. Why do you ask?"
"We're going to Regionals!"What is this weak tea? Where are the Saber pilots that shot down Asian Communists?
>>16793241Made sense then not now
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1970204905349468591Sunshield
>>16793241Who among them will be the first to die on the moon
>>16793220two weeks
>>16793262The Chinese guy. Cause they're the only ones making it back.
So they skipped the single raptor firing and went ahead with all 6 raptors?
>>16793067>>16793085Japan filters out their astronaut candidates through origami. >The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) uses the folding of one thousand origami cranes as a test for its astronaut candidates to assess their ability to perform repetitive tasks under time constraints. During a week-long continuous observation session, candidates have to fold a thousand origami cranes. These cranes are then analyzed by a team of psychologists to see how the person deals with boring, repetitive tasks and time constraints. The psychologists check whether the folds get less precise at the end of the task and see how they compare with the first ones.
>>16792869Da hat sich der Asteroid wirklich einfach so herangesneakt! Einfach so *sneak* *sneak* xD
The more I learn about this stuff the more depressed I get. Interstellar travel is currently or permanently impossible, I will never see distant galaxies with my own two eyes. Ever.
>>16793349The true frontier for interstellar travel is biotechnology.
Been thinking about this for a while but what do you think the "optimal" layout for a mars base looks like? Lets frame it in incredibly simple terms. Consider the following:>our "Mars base" is made of modules, corridors, and air locks>air locks can only be placed one to a module>corridors can only connect to another module once>corridors can't cross>any module or corridor has an equal chance to fail>if a module is cut off from a path to an airlock the red stick figure dies. >If all of the modules attached to air locks fail the red stick figure dies>optimize for redundancy/safety>optimize for space/minimize corridors and airlocks as much as possible.There definitely need to be more rules to really flesh this out, as the more modules you add the more can fail etc and that needs to be factored in, but you sort of get the idea. Surely there is a "best" layout of modules, corridors, and airlocks for a given number of modules. starting with N=3 the optimal layout should be a triangle with one airlock for example as it increases redundancy compared to a line of modules and corridors
>>16793349if the parts of the solar system we can access are anything to go off of, most of space kinda sucks and will until we get there and start building cool stuff.I wouldn’t worry too much about it, distant galaxies probably don’t offer anything more interesting than our neighbor stars.
>>16793349>distant galaxiesI'd settle just to see the next stars over from ours, extra-galactic is crazy anon.
>>16793357>>16793358Alpha Centurai is honestly what I had in mind, but that's 4.2 light years away right? Still outright impossible in current times. All we can currently *maybe* manage is a singular unmanned vehicle, but by the time it gets there maybe my kids, kids, kids , kids, kids etc, can see the pictures
>>16793360I still like Project Starshot, nothing else I've seen proposed has near as much promise so far.Actually, I wonder how many bomblets you'd need stowed away on an Orion Drive vessel to be able to reach and slow back down from an appreciable fraction of c, in order to get out there within a single lifetime? It'd be one-way, naturally, but still.
Advanced Liquid Fuel Boosters for SLS Block 2B: 6 Raptor V3 on each.
>>16793370that cool worlds guy came up with a spinny thingy
>>16793390Reiminds me of those "what if shuttle SRB was replaced by 2 falcon 9s!" type things in the early 2010s.
>>16793395ok but what if shuttle SRB was replaced with 2 superheavy
>>16793400you would only need 1, and in that case it would make sense to mount the booster below the fuel tank so it would end up looking something like this artists impression.
>>16793034imagine tripping.
>>16793034Anti-homeless gridfin
>>16793356Just turn it into a graph problem.>Every node must be reachable by every other node by two unique paths>The paths cannot intersect>The maximum path length is N nodes (this will vary depending on how big your network is)>The maximum number of connections a node can have is 3Doesn't seem that difficult.
>>16793034The Judas array onto which employees who don't want to work weekends are lowered.
>>16793394>hey why'd you say I was on the Epstein list?>"I was on ket, my bad">ahhhh you fucker, c'mere
>>16793426>graph problemyeah I was thinking that from the beginning more or less>The maximum path length is N nodes I don't think having this as a hard restriction would be necessary. since the goal is to maximize the "survivability" of a base, bases with overly long path lengths would tend to get eliminated anyway no? having very long paths would imply there long chains of modules which is generally going to be bad.>>The maximum number of connections a node can have is 3again this doesn't seem like a necessary hard restriction. if you are trying to minimize the number of corridors (to maximize available "space" for "occupants") this would likely sort itself out as well. arrangements that have too many connections should fall offI guess the idea would be to assign scores to each layout. one score for connection efficiency and one for safety. Sum the two scores together to get a total score and then rank each design by their total scoreThere is also the issue of airlocks. I have no idea how you would go about factoring that into all of this. It would increase the number of arrangements dramatically because the same design could have multiple variations with different numbers of airlocks
>>16793391What spinny thing, I'm not familiar with this one yet
>>16793438https://youtu.be/MDM1COWJ2Hc
>wake up>check news>two spacex employees are now nasa astronautsC O R R U P T I O N
>>16793440more like massive perk of the job>go to space>oh you're technically not an astronaut until NASA qualifies you>NASA makes you a real part of the astronaut corps without going through selectionbased
>>16793241>all white except a token asian>most are women>most are blondetruly trump's astronaut corps
The superior Chinese system of expendable rockets and villages will conquer Mars
>>16793241You joke but these astronauts are all just as hardcore as the old vetsThey select for insane type-As
>>16793241The bottom left and bottom mid blondes look like women who looked after me in daycare when I was a kid.They did minimum effort and one got audibly railed by her boyfriend in the other room once.
Remember when people used to doompost about heatshield tiles falling off during static fires? That doesn't really seem to happen anymore.
>>16793395>>16793390This graphic is an SLS LRB that uses RD-180/AR1 engines.
>>16793475Goalposters need to be right only once.
>>16793475They recently tried again claiming Flight 10 was going to fail because it got rained on.
>>16793390This reminds me, was the KSP cryoengines dev really going to rename these after the collective EDS freakout
>>16792300If evolution is real, and aliens came here more than a couple million years ago, they would be unrecognizable as aliens by now. Say an alien came here 10 million years ago, they now live on a planet with different selective pressures which led them to becoming an intelligent life form. It would be difficult to build industry on a new planet, so would likely resort to a primitive hunter gather lifestyle. The most reproductive r selected individuals survive this catastrophe. In the end, they devolve to a point where they aren't even recognizable to us as sentient life forms.I think many people supposing aliens existing and coming here, imagine that once a species becomes intelligent, that it will be forever more smart and capable until the end of time or they go extinct. Is there any evidence that would be the case? Isn't it more likely, that once they build artificial intelligence, and automate everything in society, that they become dumber and dumber until their civilization collapses and they return to monkey?How long does an intelligent species have to exist before they wipe themselves out, or devolve into something resembling every other animal?We've been around 200k years, will we even be intelligent humans in another 200k, or 2 million years from now?Not to mention, globalization, effectively ending evolutionary selective pressure.
>>16793241This is actually such a fucking white pill lmao they didn’t even try to DEIsmear the candidates
>>16793488>3 white men>6 white women>1 gook>not DEI
>>16793475tiles would still fall off if they didnt have a rube golberg contraption to keep them on. its not an ideal solution, they just dont have a better one.
>>16793491What's the contraption? They're still using the same pin system as always, they just added a layer of ablative and gap sealer underneath (there's also the white blankets but that was always there).
>>16793491I have an idea: They have a Teslabot latched to the underside of the ship who's job it is to catch falling tiles, and when it's in space he uses his grok powered mind to carefuly reattatch the tles in the correct place, then he climbs aboard for reentry and survies :)
>>16793490I'm happy as long as there's no browns, they're the primary obstacle to space exploration and don't belong there.
>>16793493>army of mexicans on cherry pickers manually caulking around every single tiletruly the future of space flight
>>16793491>rube golberg contraptionIt's like the meme of hitting unknown tech with a stick. The unknown tech in this case being the robot arm that sticks the tiles onto the pins.
>>16793471Meh. One of them actually even went to Purdue. *rolleyes*Will say this. For decades Woke NASA has decorated these announcements with Historic Firsts, references to their ethnicity or gender and mentions of their spouses, "partners" and children. This time it was straight CV. That's an improvement.
>>16793486>sn't it more likely, that once they build artificial intelligence, and automate everything in society, that they become dumber and dumber until their civilization collapses and they return to monkey?this is the great filter BTWAI is a false god. we should be improving ourselves both physically and "spiritually" rather than go down the GAI route. GAI is the bad end. Good end is becoming like the hyperborean nordic super beings with telepathy and cool shit like that.
>>16793490I considered this before posting but having white geologist and test pilot women shoehorned in is not the end of the world. I’d take sally ride over a hegemon of brown women and hijabs and a bunch of obviously-cherry-picked candidates where the primary selection criterion was optics.Were never gonna get a white male only astronaut class ever again, gotta temper your expectations a bit and that’s fine
>>16793498that was the space shuttle, the starship version is way simpler
>>16793505Ideally they get the TPS reliant enough where they dont need the ablative.
>>16793439Fascinating, thanks for posting anon.
>>16793509It only weighs like a ton and it prevents total loss of the vehicle in case a couple tiles go missing, feels like it's worth it just in case even if the tiles are 99.999% reliable, especially if crew is meant to be flying on this thing.
Spooky season is coming up anons. what should we do for spooky space flight? alium? government dorito? elon dick pics?
>>16793520Scrub the tober
>>16793524scrubs are lame not spooky though
>>16793520Astra coming back from the dead
>>16793532I was hoping more we could watch scifi movies or something
>>16793533No we do a séance. Get the ouija boards ready.
>>16792408This is the funnies shit ever
>>16793490No browns though
>>16793498Everyone loves the grimy, low tech space travel aesthetic of star wars and 40k, until it's time to do it for real then suddenly everyone starts pearl clutching
>>16793356unless you're using the terrain in some weird way, line is best
>>16793543Clear is forever spaceflight now
Starship completes a full-duration static fire ahead of the eleventh flight test
clear will never go to space
>>16793584>>16793543
>>16793586>AI generated image
>>16793543she made it
clear is an indian man
>>16793588still counts
Clear.Is.Going.
>>16793594>first ever streamer from space is a JP VTuberkek
What compels the Boomer to write a hit piece on why Starship HLS is the bottleneck for artemis
>>16793599moneyEDSTDS"space should be for the select few only" DS
>>16793599boomers were raised by the greatest generation, always had everything handed to them, demanded more—and only seek to hoard, accumulate, destroy, and complain
>>16793599Handmer explained it well, oldspace/Boeing dregs
>>16793599Coping.
NASA is kill
>>16793611looks like trump really is getting rid of the h1b's
>>16792623>I think he also implied they would fuck up the Combine if they met them.Excuse me? They'd fuck up a Type 5 race that can build 4th dimensional constructs, Dark Energy Reactors, Trans-dimensional Wormholes, and manages a multi-dimensional empire with at least one known mega structure?Nerd rage....rising....
>>16792507>>16792508https://x.com/planet4589/status/1970284124997890385>Starlink 1636, launched in Aug 2020, reentered over Texas last night (Sep 22 0130 UTC / Sep 21 8.30pm CDT) and was observed widely.
>>16793638told you they would blame it on spacex
>>16793611Why waste more than 2 minutes of your evening tweeting this garbagehttps://www.nasa.gov/
>>16793633>at least one known mega structure?Mark Laidlaw's Epistle Three headcanon doesn't count
>>16793648Bro, look at their logo. It's a megastructure.
>>16792995that's Peter Thiel anon. Also literally me.
>>16793484i think he's gonna replace them entirely with something else
>>16793682Utter cringe
Has anyone compiled a /sfg/ approved media list?Here's what I have off of the top of my head.>The Right Stuff>Apollo 13>The Martian>2001: A Space Odyssey Vidya>Kerbal Space Program>Children of a Dead Earth>Space Station 13/14>Moonbase Alpha>Aurora 4xWebcomics>Leaving The Cradle>FreefallAnyone got anything else?
>>16793682Fucking Top Kek.
>>16793682What about the parts inspired by F1, an engine inextricably associated with Nazism?
>>16793691Don't forget the Kerbal named after Von Braun.>It's another ideological purity and orthodoxy trumps reasonability and self awareness episode
>>16793688depends on how hard you like your scifi and how much "space" you want in your movieMoon zero 2Ad AstraAlienSolaris (1972)sunshine (not the second half)ContactInterstellarStarship troopersMoonDUNCMission to MarsTotal Recall (1990)
>>16793688>>16793697what about books?
>>16793699I can't read
>>16793699go to lit and get their recommended scifi. I will warn you in advance most of the "Greats" are a bunch of fucking degenerates who put their fetishes into their work.
>>16793597I'm so proud of my Clear
>>16792281>another corner of the internetwas it another autistic interest 4chan general by chance
>>16793688Planetes
>>16792955GEO was empty.
>>16793717the moon is a better candidate actually
https://x.com/launcher/status/1970188520318017652Did we not talk about this or did I miss it?99% is nuts, this looks almost like a Raptor plume. The E-2 honestly seems pretty impressive.I hope it gets put to good use at some point instead of just being an oddball museum piece.
>>16793699I didn't know if people wanted fiction or non-fiction or how hard the folks wanted the titles in the list to be as well.Personal recommendations of mine are (keeping to the space ones):Larry Niven's Beowulf Shaeffer short stories.The Chanur Novels by C.J. Cherryh The Expanse>>16793701 is also right. /lit/ has a Sci-fi general up with a direct link to /lit/'s recommended lists. Though, you're going to have to sift through them if you just want the space ones.>>16793716Yeah, that'll have to go onto the list.I'm trying to think of other animated movies and tv shows would be good.Titan A.E.?Treasure Planet because IMO it's underrated even though it's more Space Fantasy?
>>16793720They claim 290 second ISP at sea level, which doesn't seem very impressive for a staged combustion engine. Maybe it's still being iteratively developed?
>>16793701There is a reason for that. SF pretends to talk about the future but it's really always rooted in the present, the future it describes it's an extrapolation (sometimes extreme).In the 50s it was about robots, space, often in a cold war-like world.Starting from the latest 60s there was a social revolution in the west and SF just incorporated that.
>>16793722>Titan A.Eunderrated and a personal childhood favorite of mine>Treasure Planetunderrated and a personal childhood favorite of mine>>16793725ah yes the 60's. The beginning of the downfall of the west. Ancestor cry.
>>16793688BBC World Service 13 Minutes Presents: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2
>>16793728>Both movies underrated and a personal childhood favorite.Same and same anon
>>16793688How could you forget Apollo 11
>>16793741Oops, my bad.Guess I'll also add Moon and Dark Star.
>>16793688I like FreeSpace 2
>>16793682Freeze the mod at 2.0.7 to keep the current methane enginesAlso working with 2.0.7: this dope https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/219145-112x-cryoengines-extensions-new-methane-and-hydrogen-engines-fabriqu%C3%A9-au-canada/
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1970282201360277729>Starship completes a full-duration static fire ahead of the eleventh flight testThere is a 25s clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIkJC1TNZQ
>>16793772static fires are a bottleneck and should be eliminated
>>16792188This 2025 PN7 is really cool, we should use it for asteroid ISRU experiments
>>16793845Not when it has a chance of exploding.
>>16793772>static fire complete>tiles dont need worklaunch soon?
>>16793850That chance always exists regardless.
Why does superheavy need road transport when it can just fly to the tower for stacking?
>>16793856Sure, but it reduces chance of full stack explosion.
https://www.youtube.com/live/iyw2Lv2UKxgNordSpace (a little start-up in Canada) will be starting the launch of their first sub-orbital flight within the next hour. Who's excited??
>>16793885cool sunrise
Are there any interesting space missions happening this year beyond the Moon (beside ESCAPADE)? or 2026?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Z_3WvoChYSome vietnamese video blogger did a tour of starbase. Some interesting stuff with homes and stuff at starbase. Starts from 30mins in and ends ~50 mins in.
>>16793697Thank you for not including Gr*v*t* in that list. Fuckers completely ignored orbital mechanics.
>>16793688>AnimeCowboy Bebop (near earth scifi)Planetes (leo cleanup)Space Brothers (astronauts)Moonlight Mile (astronauts/pretty rare recommendations, I dont think many know of this)Orbital Children (recent anime which featured Starship!!! Holy Crap, its the first show with Starship afaik)>ShowsFor All Mankind (kinda gay communist ideology seeping in with plot with DEI garbage ruining some decent alt history shit)Expanse
>>16793695An argument could be made that Von Braun was less ideological than Elon is currently.
>>16793916Rocket girlsIrina: The Vampire CosmonautCrest of the Stars
>>16793855Doesn't matter because Flight 11 being ready doesn't make Flight 12 launch any faster. Literally nobody cares about a repeat launch, there is zero hype whatsoever.Orbit is when interesting things finally start happening (ship chopstick landing, fuel transfers, big starlinks, Mars entry, etc.)
>>16793920Rocket girls/Irina are bit too girly. Crest of the Stars is way too far into the scifi and hardly relevant except maybe bit as an abstraction layer about space domain as control mechanism to keeping an empire running
>>16793855they need to remove the jerry-rigged ship test stuff first, though might make sense to wait and verify that everything acutally went fine with the ship static fire so they don't have to put it back again like last time
>>16793699/sfg/ required reading
https://x.com/StarbaseTX/status/1970296321413091674
>>16793950
>>16793950if this post office is the gateway to Mars, I would like to send a declaration of independencefrom all Earthers. How much for a Martian stamp?
>>16793949BASED MINI STARSHIP
>>16793955One-man starship.
Mama starship with a big belly full of baby starships!
>>16793970I'm strokin my shit.
GET IN HEREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyw2Lv2UKxg
>To accommodate the growing population, SpaceX started bringing Airstreams so that employees could live and work on-site. It built out a tiki bar, meal services, and other accommodations, though parking was always a challenge, especially with the growing number of gawkers descending on the site. SpaceX security put out cones to direct traffic, but Musk hated the color. The orange was cloying, and, some employees believed, somehow triggered his Asperger’s. Whatever the reason, Musk wanted white cones, so the security teams used those instead, especially when they knew the boss was going to be around.
>>16793985Fucking leafs, man
>>16793985>nordcucks
>>16793988Holy autism, how much tylenol did Maye Musk consume during her pregnancy?
>>16793988Orange reminds him of SLS
>>16793916>For All MankindIf you were to edit out 3/4 of the "human drama" then the show would be 10/10.
>>16793988Just what the hell is a tiki bar
>>16793985this is the most excited launch since Flight 10.
>>16793985>cucked by a boat in the harborLMAO the fucking boomers are a global blight .
>>16793985where's the Clear stream?
>>16794010a bar with pacific island beach vacation theme like palm trees, pineapples, and tiki torches
>>16793985I'm glad it scrubbed, if it gets pushed back to a weekend I'll run out and do some live coverage for us.
>>16793712no it was on some random small niche twitch stream
>>16794016fucking boomers
>>16792206Sorry, have you shown that the problem in question ever occurs on the booster or the ship?It's not clear why anyone would care about a problem that doesn't happen.
>>16793985today on The Great White North...
>>16792225I remember that you're a gay retardI will strap women into the gravitron personally before impregnating them if necessary, but sadly it will not be necessary (only recreational)
>>16792249Important question: what the fuck is Mexico going to do about it?Not even the gayest cuck states generally attempt to enforce laws they are incapable of enforcing, because it makes them look even weaker and gayer, which can actually destabilize their governments
>>16794016>>16794031Send a shot or two across their bow and they'll move.
>>16792252Whether or not it can actually happen is a product of the actual engines and their configuration. Playing it up as a problem to be solved without evidence that even suggests it's possible is itself peak midwit.
>>16792271I'm more excited about future commercial astronauts. Who cares which gay women and minorities get picked? (Jonny Kim, pbuh, excepted)Let's see SpaceX astronaut training
>>16794033It must happen.
>>16793988apparently he did something similar in tesla factories, banning some color because he didn't like it
WE ARE SO BACK!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyw2Lv2UKxg
boycott canadian rocketssnipe canadian rocketsflight terminate canadian rockets
>>16794052I am going to toilette now, if they launch while I in the bathroom I will be very sad.
>AT THE END of July, the GAO roundly denied Blue Origin’s protest. In rejecting its arguments, the agency ruled that “NASA did not violate procurement law or regulation when it decided to make only one award.” NASA’s “evaluation of all three proposals was reasonable, and consistent with applicable procurement law, regulation and the announcement’s terms.”>Blue would lose the federal lawsuit as well. In a ruling on November 4, 2021, some seven months after NASA issued the contract to SpaceX, Judge Richard Hertling dismantled Blue’s arguments and made it clear the company had no shot at overturning the award. Using italics for emphasis, the ruling mocked Blue as a sore loser: “Blue Origin is in the position of every disappointed bidder: Oh. That’s what the agency wanted and liked best? If we had known, we would have instead submitted a proposal that resembled the successful offer, but we could have offered a better price and snazzier features and options.” Finally, Bezos capitulated. He wrote on Twitter that it was “not the decision we wanted, but we respect the court’s judgement [sic], and wish full success for NASA and SpaceX on the contract.”JUST
>>16794056I'm sure they will be very sorry, eh?
>>16794058
It's over.
>>16794058Didn't they get awarded a contract for a second lander anyway?
>>16794010>zooms know nothingA space age popular culture icon. Still kicking around in a retro kool kitsch subgroup:https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4414/1Those bars you see in shows about the Moon Race Era where everyone is wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
>>16794064I'm expecting a moose incursion any time now.
>>16793885Nordspace isn't a real space company. Their "rocket" is so smol a little girl can reach around the widest part.
>>16793845If the Earth's mass were more finely divided we'd have easier launches and more usable surface area
>the call themselves "NordSpace">ceo/founder is brown>stream shows him just waffling with another brown>ground crew is brown (>>16794072)How nordic!
>>16794064not unexpected given that pajeets get huge gibs in canada
there's not a single white person in the company
>>16793988>"I hate the colored ones! Only white ones from now on!"Um, based
>The disappointed look on a woman's face when she sees your tiny Canadian rocket.Better hope she still wants to cuddle after you scrub IYKWIM.
>>16794074See you in Valhalla!
They aren't even launching it from Canada, they are launching it from US soil.
>>16794078Fourth from the right is literally Puck from the Alpha Flight comic book. That's both appropriate and spooky.
>>16794085>canadian government is taking money from its citizens to give to foreigners who are working in another foreign countryOH NO NO NO
>>16794085why are there so many companies with dogshit launch points now?how do they expect to compete when the they launch from the middle of bumfuck nowhere away from where the rockets are built?
>>16794085The launch right now? Then why are they showing a newfie time zone?
IT IS HAPPENING. IT IS ABOUT TO LAUNCHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyw2Lv2UKxg
>>16794092The launch site is in Newfoundland. That anon is the retarded product of incest. First cousins or closer.
>>16794092>>16794090>>16794088>>16794085its in nova scotia, this is the inaugural launch of the spaceport.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Spaceport_Complex
>>16794100im retarded that one is in newfoundlandthere is another one under construction in nova scotiahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Launch_Services
>>16794100why would nova scotia be flying a newfie flag?
Their engine testing site. Isn't it adorable?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwNJsHWrdI0
NOW IT IS HAPPENING
Why is /sfg/ more active for a suborbital Canadian launch than for New Glenn Launch 1?
>>16794104>newfoundland vs nova scotiaAs if anyone with most of their teeth knows the difference.
Just a little bit of ground fire. No big deal.
I don't think canada is going to space (upper atmosphere) today
THEY DID IT! They burned the launch pad!
Ground testing in Julyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocMm-GZLyfYThat "rocket" is a humiliation.
>>16794118hey, take this empty rocket back and tell them there was a mouse inside
>>16793067pretty soon having prior spaceflight experience is going to be a requirement to be a NASA astronaut
WE ARE SO BACK
do it Canada, we know you want to
>>16794100>launching as far as possible from the equatordeeply unserious
>>16794074lmao
>>16794111new glenn launched at night and scrubbed like 3 times in a rowit was like the most inconvenient time for everyone
>>16794141the further you are from the equator the better for polar orbits
>>16794149ruskies launch their polar orbit sats from plesetsk not baikonur
>>16794107
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/world/africa/elon-musk-father-errol-child-abuse.html?unlocked_article_code=1.oE8.KBUs.4pcZIX9P_rcx&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
>>16794189Elon Musks face seems to morph more and more into his fathers faces.
>>16794189>Elon Musk and his personal lawyer did not respond to requests for comment. In 2017, the billionaire teared up when he told Rolling Stone magazine that his father had done “almost every evil thing you could possibly think of.” In a 2023 authorized biography written by Walter Isaacson, Elon Musk said he does not communicate with Errol Musk.
>>16794194
>>16794194Imagine getting cucked by your step daughter. Brutal mogging.
>Above the image, Bezos wrote on Twitter: “Listen and be open, but don’t let anyone tell you who you are. This was just one of the many stories telling us all the ways we were going to fail. Today, Amazon is one of the world’s most successful companies and has revolutionized two entirely different industries.”>It was an unfair comparison. My story didn’t say Blue Origin was going to fail. It simply pointed out that some employees, particularly women, didn’t feel like it was an equitable place to work, and that there were serious leadership challenges that had held it back, allowing SpaceX to charge ahead.>Unable to sleep that night, I reached for my phone to look at Bezos’s tweet again. This time I noticed that Musk had responded with a tweet of his own.>There were no words, just an emoji of a second-place medal.
>>16793943yeah, Rocket Girls is CGDCT slop. The only saving grace is that there is a legit reason for the Cute Girls: mass autism! little girls weigh less (along with their painted on spacesuits)Irina is unique for being set in the (not)Soviet side of space history and astronaut training. Curious how much research they did for it to keep things accurate.
>>16794214lmaoo
>>16794214absolutely destroyed
>4chan has no relevan-
I will now accuse EDS havers of bullying a child molestation victim
>>16793885>be anglo/french>call yourself "nord"
>>16794027Looks like it attempted ignition (at T-50s lol, 11:32:40 NDT), but then aborted and something at the pad caught fire producing black smoke.
>>16793943>The Vampire Cosmonaut>too girlyBecause she's an attractive girl? Literally the only girly part of that show what's wrong with you, the rest is soviet space autism
>>16794225
>>16794064Lol wtf. Fuck this shitty company and their pajeet toy rockets
>>16794229Also its a cheap seasonal anime with cute vampire soviet astronaut. I mean its space related, but not up to the quality of any other show on the list. Its a huge downgrade
>>16794137How is that an arm? Looks more like a ship you would find in Scam Citizen.
If Russia got a dictator was that was actually not retarded instead of Putin, they would've had a moonbase by now.
>>16794194In the book Errol rants about how evil the (house) Haldemans are like he's Duke Leto or something. He looks like a sci-fi TV villain.
>>16794239CanadARMEDbut a missed opportunity: should have had a couple CanadArms... holding cool swords or katanas or something.(this was from Iron Sky? the climactic scene had every nation pull a weaponized spacecraft out of their ass to fight the moon Nazi invasion)
>>16794192True. He ends up looking more wicked as he gets older. Young Elmo looked like he wouldnt hurt a fly.
>>16794223>space is too boring I need pretty colors
Peter Beck is boring and lacks the crazy drive of Musk, but Rocketlab seems like a repeat of SpaceX but done less haphazardly with the benefit of hindsight.>Falcon 1 launched 5 times and was never economically viable>Electron launched 70 something times and is proven to have a market >Falcon 9 was improvised into a partially reusable launcher with a difficult recovery and refurbishment process baked in due to never being planned from the ground up as reusable>Neutron was designed for reuse and has a much simplified recovery process>Starship was designed haphazardly and will bake many pitfalls into the design>Rocketlab heavy lifter in a decade ??When I heared that the Neutron second stage was a balloon tank that takes no structural load it all clicked for me. Neutron is like F9 but without sooting of the engines, without the difficult faring recovery process, and with a second stage designed to be as cheap and disposable as possible. Where Falcon recovers 70% of the cost of the vehicle, Neutron will recover 85% for no payload penalty.
>>16794246Fuck it, we Outlaw Star now.
>>16794224Good. They all brought it on themselves. If an adult asks you to fuck just say no?
>>16794252>Neutron will recover 85% for no payload penalty.>no payload penaltyThe whole second stage is the payload penalty.
>>16793697>Ad AstraThat movie is so fucking boring
>>16794262What I meant was no additional payload penalty compared to Falcon 9. Neutron recovers the fairings with the booster, and is also designed to pack as much of the other comlicated stuff like expensive structure into the booster as possible. Compared to Falcon which was designed like a normal rocket. Neutron stage 2 takes no structural loads on ascent until stage separation, unlike Falcon stage 2 which has to be built to the same standards as the booster.
>NASA's Lakiesha Hawkins confirms the earliest possible launch date for the Artemis II mission is Feb. 5, 2026. The mission has launch dates available between 4 and 8 days per month.
I will eat a brick if Neutron launches this year
>>16794252>no payload penalty
>>16794252keep me posted
>>16794277Jan next year.>>16794278read >>16794270
>spaceflight companies that aren't pursuing human spaceflight because of "economics"very interesting and inspiring, totally won't start trying when it's too late
>>16794294>it's too lateso, never?
>>16794294Nobody said Rocketlab has an inspiring mission, in fact it was explicitly said that Peter Beck is boring.Fact is though that IF the Caerbon fiber body of Neutron is actually reusable over dozens of flights, then it will be objectively superior to Falcon 9. Similar payload capacity and enhanced reusability.
>>16794252eletrcon was retarded and slowed rocketlab down
>>16794302it being superior to Falcon 9 might very well turn out to be pointless if its 10 years late
>>16794302>actually reusable over dozens of flightsLet me know when they demonstrate this in 2035.
>>16794252>Falcon 9 was improvised into a partially reusable launcher with a difficult recovery and refurbishment process baked in due to never being planned from the ground up as reusableI don't know where you heard that. In fact, they originally had plans to recover the second stage before giving up.
>>16794295It's generally useful to not have to start from scratch in something when you want to compete with established players.
>>16794270>no structural loadsyou mean no aerodynamic loads? Still has to withstand the typical 4G of max acceleration near the end of the boost phase>>16794277again with your weird eating fetishes, Peter? hats aren't good enough for you any more?
>>16793688October Sky
>>16793688>The MartianFuck off, that film sucks.>muh dust storm that is stronger than 99% of storms on earth kills everyone, for some reason we didn't see it coming until it hit us nor did nasa warn us woops teehee
>>16794310>In fact, they originally had plans to recover the second stage before giving up.Yeah they wanted to reuse the rocket, but they never knew how, so it had absolutely no consequence to the design.Falcon 9 was designed as a minimum viable product to satisfy the commercial resupply contracts for the ISS and also carry medium sized payloads. Reuse was not a part of it. And in fact if you watch early SpaceX conferences from before F9 first flew you can see they are relucant to even mention reuse, because they were living in the shadow of Shuttle which was a reuse disaster.As a happy coincidence the 9 engine layout allowed propulsive landing, but since the rocket had never been designed for that it sustained heavy damage on entry and was not much cheaper to refurb than building a new stage. Thats why it took years for f9 to ever be reused in significant number. They only got one shot at enhancing the reusability of the rocket with the block 5 upgrade, which made it practical to reuse but far from optimum.
>>16794314>Still has to withstand the typical 4G of max acceleration near the end of the boost phaseIt doesn't. It only has to withstand it's own peak acceleration after stage sep.
>>16794320>muh dust stormbut climate change religion! stop driving your gasoline car right now!
Oh and also, the decision to make Mars look like any random desert in Earth just in eternal twilight was the most retarded fucking shit ever. If you have to put a location card at the beginning of your film that takes place entirely on Mars and is literally called "The Martian" your set pieces and special effects FUCKING SUCKS. Why, WHY, would you give Mars a red twilight like Earth and dense fog when you need to make it NOT look like Earth? Literally every normie knows Mars has blue sunsets. Why did they do this?
>>16794302Carbon fiber doesn't even survive five trips across a parking lot on a forklift
>>16793688Try Deepspace Emporiumit's kind of like Papers,Please on a Space Station 13very early access still
>>16794330Because cinematography is a dead art, except for the occasional denis villeneuve and robert eggers film. No one gives a shit about color grading or camera angles or light and shadow anymore. No thought process these days, just have the interns render shit in post
>>16794330Hated it when it came out. So much astroturfed hype and praise for it too.
The biggest wish of kids born on Mars is to go to Earth.
The biggest wish of kids born on Earth is to go to Mars.
>>16794320>>muh dust storm that is stronger than 99% of storms on earth kills everyone, for some reason we didn't see it coming until it hit us nor did nasa warn us woops teeheeActual autism
>>16794368Too bad that won't ever work for their bird bones. Trapped forever in a bubble never knowing what an ocean looks like or how a simple summer breeze feels.
>>16794391so not so different from many urban dwellers then
>>16794391fake, they'd just need a month or two of rehab.
>>16794386Kill yourself idiot
>>16794396Kek not even the best hikers can easily go out on a hike after tripling their body weight.If you become a Martian you stay a Martian. No coming back to the garden of Eden for you.
>>16794400Completely irrelevant what hikers do. You can trivially deduce that humans are perfectly capable of living in earth gravity.
>>16794404how would you feel like if your body weight tripled right this moment?
>>16794416heavier but that's irrelevant
Local Notice to MarinersNET OCT 6
>>16794416I don't understand the question, my body weight hasn't tripled right this moment
>>16794223Oh my science! Look at those wholesome heckin' galaxies! In this moment I am euphoric.
>>16794189Dude imagine banging your hot stepdaughter, based
>>16794421TWO WEEKS
>>16794421>23:15 UTCThis is bad, for Europeans.
Where is mattress guy?
>>16794416How would it feel if you became a third of your weight, then returned to your normal weight?That is what you meant to say, disingenuous Earthrat.
>>16794435The usual time now
>>16794442There is hope for a time change with Flight 13.
>>16792188Get your popcorn ready, there will be another launch attempt soon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyw2Lv2UKxg
>>16794435Eurochuds can watch the Ariane launch.
>>16794435No? It's an okay time for launch.
>>16794450As if Ariane launches from Europe
>>16794451Not for continental Europeans, for most of us it's UTC+2
>>16794455Eh, could be worse, like the launch in the middle of the day when I'd be working.>t. Slav
Are we going to see SpaceX EVA suits be used again before Starship is done?
>>16794457There is no commercial market for EVA so no.
>>16794391that’s why children and pregnant women spend all their time in the gainz train spinning up some bones.
Rapidly reusable
anime wonned
>>16794435wasn't that about when it launched last time
>>16794471This here; any serious Martian colony will need the ability to build lots of rail lines for moving bulk freight around anyways, so building some gainz trains too would just be a relatively minor side project.
>>16794475tiles falling off means its working.
New ESA CGIslop droppedhttps://youtu.be/_AUpILBE7VAAnd the soience fags in the comments are eating it up already begging for more funding to the ESA.
>>16794510that video just makes me sad. There's nothing there, just rehashing decade old design principles without a hint of anything resembling ambition.
>>16794510Lmao as if
>>16794522that’s europe for you
>not able to repeat the feat they allegedly did 50 years agothat's ameriKKKa for you.
>>16794559SpaceX could land boots on the moon within a year if they really wanted to
>>16794563Oh so SpaceX is sabotaging the national effort on purpose? Curious.
>>16794564No they just don't care to redirect all their efforts to putting boots on the moon for a show mission and instead are focusing on their own things like starship and starlink
>>16794522>>16794548Europe could return to relevance if they just accept their place and purchase launch vehicles, focusing on the probes/instruments/satellites and related tech. The launch vehicle is just stupid to continue given its a trailing edge money sink. They can still retain a bunch of scientists and engineers busy with projects of national pride this way
>>16794564The national effort was never to do it in a year, maybe it could and perhaps even should have been—but that’s not what congress demandedThey could have done red mars, for example, but the scope shifted. Their BFR/ITS/SS development lined up with HLS requirements so they chose to bid on that platform.
>the best thing eesa ever did was a half-functioning camera attached to a parachute which took one picture on the surface of titan before running out of battery>this was over 20 years ago>rosalind-franklin has been in the works since 2001>if it does launch in 2028 it would've been 27 years from its concievement to its launch
It took five years to select the landing site for ExoMars.There were eight potential landing sites.
>>16794574I’ll give them rosetta and ATV, from the bygone era of the early 2000s and a short revival of the spirit of exploration. Orion service module is a limp-wristed derivation of ATV—but it was just a bone that NASA tossed them to make them feel important. At least you can say they are more ambitious and successful than POCKOCMOC lol
>>16794578>POCKOCMOCHow the mighty fell. They finally built a superheavy lift launch vehicle with Energia, only to use it 2 times ever.
>>16794574They were going to do ExoMars then cancelled it because muh RussiaGay af
>>16794574The best thing they did was Rosetta. >>16794596It's not cancelled. ESA is building a new lander. NASA also pulled out. And are threatening to do it a second time.
Daily reminder this will never happen.
>>16794598>100mthe adapter alone will cost 5 times that and be 12 years late. Orion is a dead platform. We have two options1. build an entirely new capsule from scratch that is way lighter and can launch on existing commercial launch providers 2. create a ferry that gets you from LEO to LLO and back to LEO and just use dragon to reenter from LEO
>>16794604ferryis impossible without exotic propulsion or heavy heatshield, and orion is the only craft that has one of those
>>16794598SLS program costs the average tax payer $2 per person. Just keep flying it. Don't be a chud.
>>16794598Good, you’re not making SLS-Orion any better here. You are making starship way, way worse.
>>16794610>ferryis impossible without exotic propulsion or heavy heatshield,why do you need a heat shield on something that never sees reentry heating. It's a transfer vehicle. you put people and cargo into it and it gets you from LEO to LLO. when it gets to LLO you dock with a lander. when you get back to earth you dock with a dragon. This isn't difficult
>>16794597As good as cancelled, a serious space agency could have launched two rovers in the time they have spent dilly dallying
>>16794619>create a ferry that gets you from LEO to LLO and back to LEOGood luck doing that without aero capture on the return to LEO
>>16794626refill in lunar orbit. BO is doing it with their lander anyway so we will have that capability one way or another.
>>16794633long term, if BO and others are serious about lunar resource extraction, you don't even have to send that fuel from earth. You just fill up your lander on the lunar surface, lift off, dock and transfer prop to the transfer stage, multiple times if needed.
25 launches in 2025 btw
25 dicks in your mom
>>16794421NIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCHNIGHT LAUNCH>NIGHT LAUNCH
>>16794648UTC-5 means 6:30PM when sunset is around 8PMThey just want it to be daylight when it splashes in the Indian Ocean
https://x.com/StarbaseTX/status/1970605484970516650
haha there are so many salty redditors on spacexmasterrace
>>16794137For as cheesy as Iron Sky was. It did have really good spacecraft designs.
>>16794669Who? Where??
You can't go to Mars
>>16794685I’m not rich enough, but if God sees fit to ever miraculously grant me Isaacman-tier money I’m either doing a phobos landing (docking, really) or a venus flyby
Okay so here is the current list as it stands. This is a list comprised of all recommendations in the thread. Stuff with question marks are things that other anons have objected to or, while being good, are media that I feel don't really fit with /sfg/. IDK you can call me a faggot if you disagree.I'll probably put this into a large graphic once we begin reaching consensus./sfg/ Recommended media list>MoviesThe Right StuffApollo 11Apollo 13The Martian ?2001: A Space OdysseyMoon zero 2 - Featured on MST3K lmao.Ad Astra ? Alien Event HorizonSolaris (1972)sunshine (not the second half)ContactInterstellarStarship troopers ? MoonDUNC ? Mission to MarsTotal Recall (1990) ? Dark StarOctober SkyTitan AETreasure Planet >Tv ShowsPlanetesCowboy BebopSpace Brothers Moonlight Mile Orbital Children For All Mankind ? ExpanseRocket girls ?Irina: The Vampire Cosmonaut ?Crest of the Stars ? >Books (Fiction and Non-fiction)Rendezvous with Rama - Arthur C. ClarkeLarry Niven's Beowulf Shaeffer short stories.The Chanur Novels by C.J. CherryhThe ExpanseThe New Case for Mars>VidyaKerbal Space ProgramChildren of a Dead EarthSpace Station 13/14Moonbase AlphaAurora 4xFreespace 2Deepspace Emporium>(Web)comicsLeaving the CradleFreefallOrbiter>PodcastsBBC: 13 Minutes Presents series
>>16794697+From Earth to the Moon (tv shows)
>>16793918True, but one literally was a Nazi while the other is merely called a Nazi by people who don't like him.
>>16794697>Featured on MST3K lmao.thats how I found out about it. If you actually watch the movie it's actually pretty interesting. seems like some rocket nerds were involved because they talk about mining moon water for rocket fuel and stuff
>>16794697>booksThe Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>>16794697For the movies category add Space Cowboys
>>16794703I actually have watched it, also via MST3K. I was also really impressed with how much they got right in the movie. They even were extra based and used gyrojets instead of regular pistols. That scored them some extra points from me.Both versions are up on Youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5fKkG5SlQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rBrGf8awEM>>16794700>>16794705>>16794706Added
>$100 million per ton to marsso now that we have an official estimate for the price, we can calculate how much it will cost per person...since 1 ton ~= 11 people, that means it'll cost about $9 million for a ticket to mars
>>16794714are you blending everyone into a uniform slurry before launch? you don't ship people by the ton
>>16794718what are you suggesting? that it'll be $20 million per ticket?
>>16794719NTA but you cant just mathematically weight a human and assume it’s a flat cost. Humans are bringing baggage, and require a lifetime’s worth of sustenance.
>>16794719There's not gonna be tickets to mars for a long time, and by that time we can't predict how much starship will cost. For the first decade or two everybody going to mars will be getting paid to, not paying, whether they're astronauts or just spacex employees. You can't have some bozo paying to go and then just being a nuisance for 2.5 years until the next window.
why didnt they ever make block 2 of shuttle? it was clearly superior.
>>16794727imagine the pork
>>16794727>why didn't they polish this turd? it would have looked shinier
Didn't ULA claim they were going to massively scale up launch cadence in 2025?
>>16794741you are only allowed to diss spacex. pointing out the failings of non spacex companies and organizations is not allowed
>>16792439Folic acid doesn't work on space elves
I thought big mike was the only one doing quantum throost
>>16794765>LLC
>>16794697>>MoviesSilent Running
Seti is dumb and a waste of money
>>16794786It’s actually pretty based, costs next to nothing, and they sponsored a bunch of research at my university that had nothing to do with finding le life, all the professors involved were happy to help the department research things like martian soil analogs and compaction physics and dust generation modeling. Cool guys, good program, I don’t understand why you’re hating something you obviously don’t understand
>>16794787*radio Seti is dumb and a waste of money*
seti is what keeps aliens afraid of us. they know we are listening so they hide and cower. they fear us.
>>16794789REAL aliens communicate with FTL neutrinos, everyone knows this
>>16794791>they fear us.if you believe the stories they shut down our nukes once just to fuck with us. the russians too.Not sure they are all that afraid if they pull a stunt like that.
>>16793688First Man, no question mark
>>16794795Contrarian take: this movie sucked and I know neil was a little strange IRL but ryan gosling’s acting came across as weird autist Drive guy, but not cool. And yes I think the choice to not show the american flag was a bad one. Not in a boomer MAGA I am-angry-way, just in a “why the fuck go out of your way to obscure something so simple” way
>>16794794They're afraid of the nuke that gets overlooked and isn't shut down.
>>16794797Ryan Gosling is a lolcow, he's always playing the same role.
If I were to add up the number of americans who think the moon landings were faked, and the number of people who are fine accepting it but believe it represents some sort of evil colonialism and that we shouldn’t go back, it would probably be more than half the population of America.We deserve a direct deep space impact.
>>16794802I'm pretty sure that nobody at my job has ever heard of Artemis and still think the Shuttle is flying.
>>16794800I don't think you know what a lolcow is.
>>16794804>ArtemisIsn't that one of the shuttles?
>>16794727what engines power the LRBs?
>>16794804>>16794809i sent someone the pic of the flight 11 LNM and they asked if that was for Artemis II kek
>>16794797this but also I'm angry because im an american and WE went to the moon not anyone else so they should show our flag since it was our accomplishment not "collective humanity" accomplishment no people in bumfuck india had any part to play in putting a man on the moon it was 100% American ingenuity and engineering excellence (with a dash of nazi here and there we dont talk about those guys)
>>16794727>shuttle-energiawhat could have been...
>>16794831missing jet engines
>>16794714Human mars flight would need lot of extra mass-useless space for human environment. So it would be atleast 5-10X that, right back to $100M per person. This is actually roughly the same cost as single astronaut to LEO/ISS currently. So its actually pretty crazy.
Thoughts on a vacuum optimized SSME?
>>16794836just use dwarfs. half the space, half the mass, half the food requirements, double the amount of manpower.
>>16794838Thats why space would be very suitable for lolis/shotas if we ever find a way to stunt growth and keep our human body to <12 year old.
>>16794839so the trannies were onto something when they said kids need to be taking puberty blockers?
>>16794840Nah, they are just useful tools for the lizards who want to stop the procreation process all together and depopulate the earth.
>>16794840ancient knowledge
>>16794841the antediluvian snake gods demand a sacrifice
>>16794852Aren't there already enough abortion shrines for that?
>>16794837how do you plan on air lighting it
>>16794854*No*
>>16794855Fly a second, smaller rocket alongside it with sparklers on the tip.
>>16794765how would you control one of these things? what happens when the little gate or whatever you use to turn the effect off breaks?>oops we have a failure in our RCS shutter>satellite flies away continuously accelerating to near relativistic speeds>space police come by and give earth a ticket for littering the universe
I will have enough money by age 50. exciting!!!!
>>16794861>>16794697side note this is literally the Cavorite craft from cult classic First Men in the Moon (1964), based on the HG wells Novel of the same name.another great movie to add to the list
>>1679486350 year olds might be too old to go. prime age is probably 35.
>>16794870Can I stop aging right now if I try real hard
>>16794598It's not built for the high vibration of super heavy
>>16794875Stuff some packing peanuts around the damned thing, then. Bubble wrap is low-mass.
>>16794839>lolis/shotasGenuinely kys
>>16794863>>16794870>>16794873Just sign a loan from SpaceX promising that you'll work 10 years to pay off the debt. Then you get to be on Mars @ 35 and start a family on Mars, while having a career. It will just be that you;ll have to pay off a debt like you do on earth. You could prob get a loan from another company on Earth and then say you cant pay back. What are they gonna do on Mars?
>>16794881you ever see that episode of expanse where the landlords cut off the air to people who owed them money?
>>16794882Fictional setting where there is good people and evil companies?
>>16794883>fictionallife is always worse than fiction
New Didymos impact vid
>flight 11 in october>artemis 2 in februaryanything good happening between them?
>>16794891nu glenn 2
>>16794891neutron launch
>>16794894aint no way
>>16794891Artemis will launch before starshipCalling it now
how do they do it? how do they remain so ignorant?
>>16794861I'm pretty sure you still need to put in energy for anything cool to happenthat being said, impulse is not a conserved quantity in quantum theories so maybe someone will figure something out somehowwhere things will get really fucky is when someone figures out you can build the quantum analog of an internal combustion engine out of squeezed states
>>16794905They're not even people
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1970612689773961229
>>16794910This pic always pisses me off. You don't launch nukes straight down from orbit dammit.
>>16794891Pad BMasseys
>>16794975Why not? As long as you fire them retrograde you can land them almost anywhere you want.
>>16794985>6 months of counting boltsim out
>>16794987but that's when the real fun begins, it's like advanced tankwatching
>>16794838That's why china will win this race.
>>16794891Another Lunar landing.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/imap
>>16795016>IMAP, or the Interstellar Mapping and Acceleration Probe, is a NASA heliophysics mission that will map the boundaries of the heliosphere: the large bubble created by the solar wind that encapsulates our entire solar system. IMAP will study how the heliosphere interacts with the local galactic neighborhood beyond and will support real-time observations of the solar wind and energetic particles, which can produce hazardous conditions near Earth. Falcon 9 will launch IMAP into a transfer orbit that will take it to the Earth-Sun L1 Lagrange Point – a gravitationally stable region 1.5 million kilometers from Earth (directly between Earth and the Sun) where the Sun and the Earth's gravity essentially balance each other. Also on board the mission is NASA’s Carruthers Geocorona Observatory and NOAA’s Space Weather Follow On-Lagrange 1, which will also head to the Earth-Sun L1 point.https://science.nasa.gov/mission/imap/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omv-fxd4EAE
a ton of rockets are being launched but only a few of them are for manned spaceflight. grim.
>>16794849based old bastardhow did his kid end up so gay?
>>16794882doesn't make any fucking sensedead people can't pay you back
>>16795021Cool!
hour and a half until pajeet scam rockethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv5nUstmg00
>>16795021
https://x.com/SpaceNowInfo/status/1970810665217442237>Liftoff! China Rocket's Smart Dragon 3 successfully launched the Geely Constellation Group 06 from the Oriental Spaceport mobile launch ship. The mission deployed 12 LEO communications satellites for Geely Automotive, purposed for testing autonomous driving and inter-vehicle communication services, along with payloads for ocean observation.
>>16795053reminder that the geely constellation will also provide gps. china will have multiple constellations that we need to destroy in a war.
>>16795057no need, just destroy the ground stations
>>16795041I remember my wasted time from yesterday...and I want it back. Nothing to see here, actively recommending nobody click that bullshitYou'll thank me later
>>16795057If we want to get serious about out ability to clear out enemy megaconstellations we should really start working on antisatellite lasers. That said, Tory just wrote an article for the Washington Times tarding out over how unprepared we are for space war, so I'm not going to be too worried about the situation. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/sep/22/us-must-draw-red-lines-space/>we are not ready>No binding rules exist to shape how nations behave in space once a conflict begins> What if Russia or China places a nuclear device in low earth orbit? We don’t know>debris could cascade destroying hundreds of satellites in a day and rendering an entire orbital band unusable for years.
>>16795072It's simple. The military need to defend space is a direct consequence of the military and economic value of assets in space, of their vulnerability and of their likelihood of being attacked.However, the likelihood of being targeted is a function of the value of the asset and its vulnerability. As space becomes more accessible, a larger number of actors will be capable of attacking space based assets, because the cost of doing so will decrease.This does suggest an immediate need for space based weapons, and certainly a long term need when the value of space based assets has increased dramatically (i.e. when a substantial portion of network traffic, including mobile service, is going through satellites, and navigation is even more dependent on satellites) and when the decreased cost of attacking them has vastly increased the number of potential attackers.
>>16795072Space Force dude literally said their lunar base will be used for military purposes and it makes sense. There is currently very little early warning for tiny objects that venture in and out of the earth moon system. AFRL is working on a system called Oracle for this purpose.
Why the sudden autism spike of photographing the sun with planes and rockets transiting?
>>16795084basically spacex fanboys promoting the company, keeping the public aware of the space company, spacex. Other companies don't feel the need to do this.
>>16795041>>16795068>live in 6 hours
>>16795084Maybe the technology needed to do so got cheaper. I'm not a photography autist so I don't know.
>>16795084One cool photo goes viral and then many people try to copy it. It's not rocket science.
>>16795086retard
>>16795084Everything else has been done. Is yet another photo of a Falcon 9 launch going to turn heads?
>>16795091Hmmm yeah this is the answer I believe
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1970839933352083692>NASA's TIm Dunn says on the IMAP launch webcast that the ESCAPADE launch is scheduled for the end of October or early November on the 2nd Blue Origin New Glenn.
>>16795096Q4 2025 trust us bros
>>16795084To get a good transiting shot you need the rocket to be launching around dawn. Back when we were only launching a few rockets per year you'd almost never get the opportunity for a shot like this. Falcon 9 has fixed this issue with its absurd flight rate and now something that used to be a once-in-a-lifetime shot is something that comes up multiple times per year. Computer trajectory projections have also made it a lot easier to figure out where you need to be set up to catch the rocket in transit, so people with more hobbyist grade equipment can set up for it. It's also very visual dramatic and makes for something that will get a lot of likes and shares on social media, which is very important to someone trying to grow their brand as an independent (semi)professional photographer.
>>16795092basically ula fanboys promoting the company, keeping the public aware of the space company, ula. Other companies don't feel the need to do this.
Solar Thermal Propulsion (STP)
>>16795115This will make Mercury colonisation possible.
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1970856825437425950>NEW: The crew of Artemis II has named their Orion spacecraft “Integrity.” Integrity will return humanity to the vicinity of the Moon for the first time since 1972.
>>16795124>Integritynamed based on the astronauts' hopes and dreams... that the capsule and shielding will maintain its integrity during reentry
>>16795124>IntegrityThey just fucking jynxed their chances of survival kek
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1970851300280848717>Happening now, the crew of the Artemis 2 mission will speak with members of the media about their mission, launching no earlier than Feb. 5, 2026.> Commander Reid Wiseman opens by highlighting Artemis 2 as a test mission. He says they don’t anchor themselves to dates and are training for all contingencies, both on Earth and in space. Wiseman thanks all of the workers for their tireless efforts to build the rocket, the spacecraft and all the ground systems.>Artemis 2 Pilot Victor Glover shares a timeline of day one of the mission, saying ingress happens about three hours prior to liftoff. He says once in orbit, they will begin to do vehicle checkouts, including the water and toilet. Glover says after the translunar injection burn, they will have their first, full test period. There is an orbit-raising burn about 4 hours into their first sleep cycle on orbit.>Artemis 2 Mission Specialist Christina Koch turns to the science, which includes the CubeSats and human science, like the AVATAR (A Virtual Astronaut Tissue Analog Response) experiment. Koch says the crew will have three hours for lunar observations during their closest approach. She says part of their training has focused on how to make good science observations.>Mission Specialist Jeremy Hansen says one of the biggest markers of success for their mission will be to pass on their learnings to the crew of Artemis 3, which will be the first landing mission of this program. >Wiseman announces that the crew named the Orion spacecraft “Integrity.”>Glover says he hopes that when they are at the closest point to the Moon and are in a loss of signal, he hopes that it can be a point of unity across the world.>Hansen says the benefit of seeing the Moon with their eyes may allow them to pick up subtle hues that could inform future crewed or robotic landing missions.
>>16795125>>16795101why do people worship this gay sperm-cell rocket?
>>16795129They should send only pregnant females.
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1970850818023674079>Wondering how you can see the Atlas V launch of Kuiper 3 for Amazon? This visibility map shows when and where your best chances are to see the rocket as it lifts off Thursday at 8:09 a.m. EDT (1209 UTC) and heads northeasterly into space. ULA will offer live reports from launch control in our automatically refreshing blog beginning at 5:15 a.m. EDT (0915 UTC). The launch webcast starts at L-20 minutes.
>>16795124lol gay
>>16794400wrong, but also gaythey just need to live in the gainz station with gradually increasing gravityI can't believe you just got brain mogged by dragon ball z
>>16794416I would have to eat a lot of breakfast for that to happen—but I didn't
>>16795136Precision. Power. Purpose.™
>>16795124>Integritysuch as the lack of it in terms of the state of the heat shields?
Is Orion a single use vehicle?
>>16795146yeah
>>16795146no but they have to replace the heatshield every time
>>16795132because unlike New Glans, it actually launches
>>16795146No but in practice yes. They have no plans to reuse any capsules
>>16795142
>>16795148that would be its Shittle heritage
>>16795156>shuttle heritageoh no. blowing up on re-entry is also shuttle heritage
Reid Wiseman is a cool guy, I really like him. Solid choice by NASA
>IntegrityIts funny the more Wiseman described the naming process the less excited I got, I knew it would be some generic cookie cutter HR approved designed by committee name +Canada and oh boy was itShould've just made it fun and gone with Boomerang or something
Starships need names too
>>16795162>Starship HLSStability
>>16795086maybe if they launched more than once a year people would actually give a shit
>>16795162The first manned HLS should get the name "Data is the payload"
>>16795167no, no fucking culture long ass pretentious names, and no fucking lame uninspired generic shit either, I can't believe the art of naming spacecraft is something lost to us
>>16794975Are you the same autis that gets mad at the Martian?
>>16795072>unprepared we are for space warAnon, what's the point of talking about space war when no western country is prepared for a major, conventional war? While space is important for communications and intelligence, the real fight takes place on the ground.Europe is still busy with the green scam and creating a gay police state while its industry is shrinking. On the other side of the ocean, the shipbuilding capability of the US is laughably small when compared to China.
>>16795157is that really what happened?
>>16795162Challenger
>>16795124Integrity? Like the lackthereof when it returns to Earth.
>>16795129Why the fuck is Artemis so gay and clunky? I hate it. HLS looks like it's from a completely different era to Orion. Apollo's single launch architecture just felt right, idk. If they were doing more than just another flags and footprints mission then I'd excuse it but it's likely it won't even go beyond that.
>>16795157Will they do an Orion-Mengzhou mission at some point?
>>16795172What kind of ships is China building, and what sort of quality are they built to? The USSR had some extremely overwhelming launch stats back in the day, but those were driven by the fact that they never stopped using film-based spysats and didn't shift to using electrooptical systems until a decade after they'd transformed into Russia.
>>16795184>What kind of ships is China buildingBased on a quick googling, basically every kind. Except yachts lol. Found an article about american yacht makers trying to sell to rich chinese and the chinese don't see the point in yachts lol>what sort of quality are they built to?Good enough for the global shipping industry evidently since they keep buying an increasing amount of chinese ships.
>>16795184As other anon said, literally everything. The huge advantage that US had in WW2 is now gone.https://youtu.be/6ibCSH7wPjA
>>16795172Losing a conventional war wouldn't seriously harm the US. Losing a space war is losing the future.
>>16795192Losing a conventional war would be the end of the federal state. No theoretical US peer would allow the US to remain intact.
> @jeffbezos has started following @starlink> @jeffbezos has started following @michaelnicollsx??? what are they planning or is it just mutual follows/courtesy
>>16795195>allowOkay, they can cry about how they won't allow it but they can't do anything about it.
>>16795198The loser doesn't get to play at the winners table, this has always been true.
>>16795199You have a very childish view of this. Tell me how they're going to make the loser comply with all their demands.
>>16795200military force.
>>16795203lol, lmaowe have 2 oceans
>>16795203Elaborate on that. How would China dismantle the US with military force?
>>16795203what military force is there in the world that can occupy the united states and keep it occupied?Keep in mind there are more guns in private hands in the US than in every military in the world combined.
>>16795208A "High Castle" scenario would not be easy, but you need a map broken up by state to get a better idea.
>>16795208
>>16795184>until recently, china had more launches than the US for the past 15 yearswtf
>>16795204you had alaska, you think the canadians are going to keep you safe?>>16795205dismantle the federal state by treaty, might install a puppet on the west coast.>>16795208Occupation of the whole country is not needed, how many texans are going to drive over to defend san francisco?
>>16795213even a state like california is going to have a ton of firearms in civilian ownership. Euros really cannot comprehend the gun density of the united states.
>>16795213>dismantle the federal state by treaty,Why would they comply with such a treaty presented to them?>might install a puppet on the west coast.Why would they comply?>Occupation of the whole country is not neededHow are they going to occupy any part of it?And why would the US government simply agree to disband, facing anything short of total destruction?
>>16795208Not that it changes your point much but only about 30% of americans own those 393 million guns. Unlike most other countries americans own multiple guns.
>>16795213>treaty>Your country doesn't exist any more because we passed a non-binding UN resolution
>>16795213Retardation too incomprehensible for /sfg/I don't know where you could've come from but you need to go back.
>>16795217yeah all that means is it takes one American to arm a militia honestly.
>science fiction general
Looking into Magdrive which boasts some impressive stats. It's a plasma thruster that uses solid metal propellant Unfortunately I cannot seem to find specifics anywhere on their website on how this is meant to work. what fucking metal are they using? Iron? alluminum? chromium? fucking palladium? doesn't say. Do they have a paper or something I can read somewhere?
>>16795205The PLA would march into DC
>>16795208These LARPs rely on the assumption that the would be conquer is honorable and wouldn't resort in genocidal strategies to subdue the population.
>>16795231>calling anything else a larp when you're talking about someone invading, occupying, and genociding america
>>16795233Anyone who can defeat the US at sea and air can certainly do as he pleases with the states.
>>16795235>Anyone* who can defeat the US at sea and air*editor's note: no such person existsnow put down the crack pipe you kook
>>16795235>source: the wiccan texts
>>16795235I don’t think that’s how that works
>>16795235>anyone who can get to orbit can colonize mars
>>16795162S230 S231 S232 etcYou don't understand how many of them they want to build.
>>16795152it hasn't achieved orbit, also unlike BONG.
>>16794568They reason it exists in the first place is exactly to not be dependent on the whims of the US.
>>16795235This guy is 100% right, especially about air. The american military is totally reliant on their aircraft to do anything. Thats why americans are so shit at beating insurgents, you can't beat an insurgency with an air campaign. Any country that can even tie, let along beat the USAF will seriously cripple americas fighting ability.Same things true of modern israel btw. Israel would be fucked without their airforce right now.
>>16795253if a strong airforce wasn't as important then you would think that both the US and israel invested in the thing that is importantkind of a ridiculous argument
>>16795249Those are F9 pictures, baka anon.
>>16795255Huh? Where did I say a strong airforce isn't important?Theres a difference between having a strong airforce and being totally reliant on it to accomplish anything.
>>16795259google what counterfactual means and try to understand it
>>16795257fuck, should have read the reply chain. How embarrassing
>>16795260Believe it or not there are in fact armies that can accomplish things without air supremacy. American and israel are not in that group.
IT'S BEEN A FUCKING MONTH WHY HAVEN'T WE DONE ANOTHER LAUNCH
>>16795264name three
>>16795253>you can't beat an insurgency with an air campaign.>This guy is 100% right, especially about air.Did you even read what he actually said?You have zero logical connection behind any of this.
>>16795269I thought we were talking about the american government, not theoretical insurgencies that pop up post occupation?
>>16795267taliban, viet cong and the houthis>americans will never live down being beat by illiterate goat fuckers and rice farmers
>>16795274Didn't like a million Iraqis and Afghans die during that occupation?
Any kiwianons in /sfg/?
page 10 somebody stage it
>>16795275Didn't you cucks lose?lmao
>>16795280About 5k dudes, yeahmy math might be off but5k < 1 million
>>16795280Lose 1/50th the people? Yeah.
STAGING >>16795282>>16795282>>16795282
>>16795271If you can't even understand how it's applicable to both you shouldn't be posting.
>>16795288If you can't can't stay on topic maybe you should stop posting.
>>16795289So are you gonna stop being a retarded shill now?
>>16795253The fact that America can crush you with just its airforce is not evidence that its army is weak.
>>16795274The Taliban survived long enough for America to leave.The Viet Kong were exterminated.The Houthi stopped attacking shipping as soon as America got a president that would send their military after it.
