If humans had 6 fingers on each hand, would we count in base 12? What are the odds we ended up with the perfect amount of appendages for counting? Now THAT'S a pretty beneficial coincidence.
Aliens only have 3 fingers though.
Did the guy who invented the zero have no fingers?
>>16803045If the queen had a dick, she'd be the king.
>>16803045>If humans had 6 fingers on each hand, would we count in base 12?Yes>What are the odds we ended up with the perfect amount of appendages for counting?Exactly 100%
>>16803045>we ended up with the perfect ammount of appendages for countingI mean, yeah, we count with out fingers. And?>would we count in base 12OP, people literally in 2000 BC counted in fucking 60 base system. I don't see 60 fingers on our hands.
>>16803056>people literally in 2000 BC counted in fucking 60 base systemnot most people>>16803055>Exactly 100%people like you are having a different conversation because you misunderstand probability.
>>168030643 is just a worthless, retarded group in general, 6 only has one effective totative, 12 isn't even squarefree. Nothing about duodecimal is even remotely compelling even as an alien counterfactual.
>>16803045If we counted based on our fingers we'd be counting in base 11.
>>16803045>If humans had 6 fingers on each hand, would we count in base 12?Likely yes.>What are the odds we ended up with the perfect amount of appendages for counting?Appendages came before the choosing of number bases for counting. Base 10 became popular likely due to the already existing common 10 fingers on the hands of humans.
>>16803135Disagree; we'd probably count in base 6.
Humans used to count to 12 with one hand
>>16803205Base 14 is more likely than base 12. Base 12 simply would never happen. It's too redundant.
>>16803048he was caught stealing and lost his fingers.
Decimal is so dumb too. We could be counting in base five and using the other hand to count up to 25
>>16803205Oof, counting on your left hand. NGMI.
>>16803219Then explain to me why we call it eleven and twelve, and not oneten and twoten? Where does one dozen (12) come from?
>>16803279It literally means one left and two left. After you subtract ten. It's a complete etymological rejection of base 12 retardation.
>>16803056>I don't see 60 fingers on our hands.You don't count fingers the same way they did since they treated every little nub and bone to be a finger instead of the entire length of the appendage.
>>16803064>people like you are having a different conversation because you misunderstand probability.No, the probability is that no matter how many fingers you have, counting in the base that matches the number of fingers is the perfect counting system for that number of fingers.
>>16803070>Nothing about duodecimal is even remotely compelling even as an alien counterfactual.compared to??
>>16803759>>16803219How the fuck do you compare different base systems? Like in the pic: why some are perfect? Why 70 is weird? Why others are deficient, abundant?
Mayans used base 20 system. Some people can't use their toes to count. I used to think the whole apple visualization thing was a meme.
>>16803045If we counted in base 12, we would probably be better at math. Base 12 is actually a lot more intuitive because anything divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6 all end up feeling like easy to use round numbers in a way that only numbers divisible by 2 and 5 are in base 10. But obviously nobody grows up learning it so it doesn't make much sense to us.
>>16803219>simply never would happenSocieties using Base Twelve is a historical fact. Societies using Base Ten simply won out over them and every other numeric base, though probably mostly due to factors other than the superiority of one base over another.
>>16803806All of those terms have specific definitions that you could look up in seconds. That you're unwilling to put in even that tiny amount of effort into research demonstrates how worthless you participation in this discussion is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_number
>>16803853Eh base-8 is probably best for math without a calculator:>https://www.donaldsauter.com/base-8.htmAlso a different but interesting observation is if we used base-16 early on we could have discovered these formulas (which only work in base-16) much earlier:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey%E2%80%93Borwein%E2%80%93Plouffe_formula
>>16803045You can use your fingers to count in binary midwit.
>>16803045The Sumerians would be base 18. They count three bones in each finger.
>>16804233>>16803205Sorry my bad, Brother.
>>16804214Base 8 has 4 square roots of 1. You couldn't pick dumber base if you tried.
>>1680321914 isn't divisible by 3. Also, you can use your thumb to cover the parts of the last figure and to count by feeling, with twelve.
>>16804244The only way you can stop at 12 is if you ignore your own thumb. No one would ever do that. 14 and 10 are both more reasonable than 6 or 12.
>>16804250I just told you how the thumb is not ignored.
>>16804257>14 isn't divisible by 3Who cares about your circular reasoning? 3, 6, 12, and so on are are really stupid bases.
hey little twelvetoeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nC8J6YXqdo
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>>1680442414 is a decent base. 10 is also good, maybe a bit more efficient. 6 and 12 are just completely stupid.
>>16803045You can already count in base 12 if you use the knuckles on each hand instead of the fingers.
>>16804445>If I'm a knuckle dragging monkey I can already count in base 12Alrighty then
>>16803205and with 2 they count to a gross
>>16803219sorry ancient people weren't redditors. Ever wondered why it's 72 virgins instead of 75? 12 months? 24 hours? 360 degrees?Get real
>>16804434for everyday life more divisibility makes the base more useable
>>16803045>by an accident of evolution, the number of fingers on our hands just HAPPENS to be on the upper end of the number of pieces of information we can retain in short-term working memory (about 7-10), 12 is pushing it and around the point where people start to lose track)>the apparent size of our one moon and our one sun just HAPPEN to be exactly the same, and this is shown dramatically by the event of a solar eclipse, which is rare but happens just often enough that people can observe one from time to timeHow conveeeeeeenient! Definitely not a simulation, this
>>16804483You don't need to write 12/3 as 10/3 to understand that the answer is 4.
>>16804484>Definitely not a simulationThe teleology points to intelligent design. You can posit a simulation if you don't mind the philosophical problems, but, for me, it's the Almighty. >sun and moon being equalI made a thread about this and it seems you can dismiss this since the eclipse is not always perfect do to distance fluxuations.
>>1680449310 is only a "10" in your mind due to the bases that you were raised by
>>16803855I still don't see how that makes one base worse/better than the other ones, anon. And I don't see anybody speaking about implementations on a computer of addition or multiplication of that particular base, becuase then I can see why a base can be worse or better.
>>16804697You being too lazy to look up such simple and easily accessible definitions is tangential to any base being superior to the other. No one is going to humor you in discussions when you're too lazy to put in even a few seconds of research about the basics.
>>16803229what did he steal? nothing?
>>16804683Yeah, that's what I said lol
>>16804710How I already said, how a number being weird, abundant, any-other-nonsense is relevant for the base as that number to be better than another? I don't want to waste time to look up info that doesn't even matter for this discourse.P.S: if you are that smart why not explain this thing in 10 words as your first reply, /pol/-brained anon?
>>16803268Sorry my bad
>>16804493those aren't the same thing though
>>16806153You need to be 18 in base ten to post here.
Having 6 fingers is not beneficial, and I think pic related is a pretty compelling reason why.Comparative anatomy has shown that every animal's hand has the same basic structure with some modifications to proportions. Bat and human hands are the same, just with the bones being in different shapes/sizes. No animal in the animal kingdom has 6 fingers on each hand, so clearly despite humans having some incredibly rare mutations which give 6 fingers there must be some reason why they're not seen. Perhaps it has something to do with brain organization and dexterity.
>>16803045>>16806167Also, with the exclusion of great apes, animals don't really count with their fingers, and they still have 5 fingers per hand. Therefore, our memory is tailored to have 10 being the upper limit of short term counting ability because we have two hands with 5 fingers each, and not the other way around.
>>16803045
>counting with your fingers instead of in your headMonkeywit detected
