This feels like an oneyplays hypothetical wtf
Banana Matt.
>>16804258Just keep the thing saturated with anesthetic at all times. It would be interesting to see what happens as time progresses with microtubules toggled off.
>>16804286What religion or ethnicity are you?
>>16804258>literal brainletsdepends. if not complete function doubt it's conscious. plus consciousness comes from a lot of data input that forms certain types of neural networks.
>>16804258An easy way to make sure they aren't conscious would be to use brain cells from fetuses. We already know that fetuses aren't alive.Thoughts?
>>16804258WHAT? They are growing brains and experimenting on them?! When the hell did this happen?
>>16804258they've been incorporating rat neurons on printed circuits for a few years already. they work so well that they can drive little cars around mazes. this is just a few cells larger, but exponentially more complex. All biology, especially our brain, operate on electro-chemistry. Assuming you understand the properties well enough the cells don't know if they're talking to other cell, or capacitors and resistors. "Parts is parts.", as the old saying goes......
>>16804258they've also revived a decapitated brain in a jar "Futurama" style, but the "experts" have assured us that the brain was in no pain and unable to perceive anything at all, which seems even more horrific somehow. There's a lab in Chinklandia that claims to be able to regenerate neurons too. MASSIVE if true. Assuming it's not BS, then cripples will walk again, and brains could "in theory" be brought back online, or transplanted.
>>16804657They aren't, it's a "what if" scenarioSlow news day, there isn't enough shit going wrong with the world today so we have to invent scenarios to get upset about
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>>16804657Hybrots have supposedly been a thing for decades now, but its just one of those thing that repeats in the popsci news cycle every 18 months or so like quantum computers being discovered or black holes finally being visualized.
>>16804286>microtubuleslmfao retard
>>16804258We literally live in the Kali Yuga.
>>16804807>They aren'tYes they are, retard.
>>16804644>plus consciousness comes from a lot of data input that forms certain types of neural networks.Lmao no. That's not what consciousness is.
>>16804656we should take brain cells from "useless feeders" like you instead.
>>16805301enlighten us?
>>16805317Saying its a binary input-output machine is exactly like saying your calculator is "conscious" in some sense.
>>16804258this is silly, just use rat brains until we're ready for the next step>b-bu-butin secret labs from the government, everything goes, that's where morality doesn't reach, because power was never about morality
>>16804258this would be like sensory depravation. without regular input from your senses you lose touch with reality and your brain can no longer make sense of things. if a normal brain in someone's head struggles, i imagine a clump of cells would be far worse off.besides, consciousness also requires multiple levels of coordinated rhythmic activity between neurons. without it you end up in an unconscious state like a seizure. maybe the lab brains cant even do that.
>>16804258If i were a demon i dont think it would be too hard to posses one of these
>>16804258>Elise Poore
>>16805303I'm sorry you killed your baby, maybe you should have thought it over longer
Who would be against this? It's a safe way to get closer to learning how memory works, is stored, consciousness in general etc
>>16804258As someone who once had a lucid dream that I was a cell culture sent to mars on a petri dish, no, I am not ok with this.
>>16805334>false equivalencewhat part of "a lot of data" made you jump straight to calculator you faggot. kill yourself.
>>16804657You think that's crazy, wait until you hear about that one time they reverse transcribed proprietary DNA into half of the human population
>>16804258As an agnostic, this is utterly unethical. It violates medical and biology guidelines while actively kicking open this can of worms. >the actual AI revolution is growing 50lb brains in jars
>>16806982>as an agnosticwhat does belief in a god have to do with this? Do you mean the scientists are playing god or something?
>>16806989I wanted to bracket where my view is coming from. And yes, some people would make that claim. I think there are real problems with growing what might be sentient if not sapient, then just experimenting on it. The other side is that once this technology can grow that 50lb brain, humanity just becomes a peripheral for the Big Brain.
"We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?">– Project PYRRHO, Specimen 46, Vat 7, "Activity recorded M.Y. 2302.22467. TERMINATION OF SPECIMEN ADVISED"
>>16807018Ah, I see.I'm an agnostic too, so I get ya
>>16806972>family guy cutaway
>>16807093kek
>>16807093>Hey Lois, remember that time I made artificial little human brains capable of individual thought?