Cheeky - editionprevious >>16815938
>>16819177First for subsurface rockets.
>>16819180You are really funny anon :D
spehs
for me it’s grifting with Lunar Module II
Is there so little happening in space flight that you have to comfort yourself with AI slop?
>>16819180Theia mission when
is this a new parking garage?
>>16819177I can we can all agree this is the worst OP ever
>>16819196apartment building + parking garage
>>16819197There have been far worse
>>16819197but it's cheeky
>>16819200>>16819197I got banned for posting less retarded OPs than this. OP must be a janny.
>>16819197Examples?
>>16819184I had to google to discover what is that thing.Pretty cool for its time.
spaceboat
>>16819252the turducken concept hasn't been taken far enoughwe need a submersible aircraft carrier that surfaces at great speed, accelerates on hydrofoils to launch a great big subsonic plane that drops a supersonic plane from its bomb bay that has a hypersonic drone riding on top that goes beyond the karman line to launch a space vehicle which expends a stage to circularize, another to reach earth escape velocity and finally an ion drive to push the payload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSebXD8Md3ssex (in space)
>>16819252space ship
>>16819196How many staff can they stuff into that?
>>16819259bout tree fiddy.
>>16819250Basic /sfg/ knowledge? Lurk more my friend
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/1979134584622104620>Proton-M is now assembled at Baikonur for the upcoming launch in December, awaiting stacking with the payload/fairing section.Only eleven more Protons left
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1979151689589432372>And "Thousand Sails" is back sailing w/ the 1st new satellites in 7 months for the G60/Qianfan constellation launched on this LM-6A at 07:08 UTC. Lots of numbers skipped this time though - after G60 Polar Group 01, 02, 03, 06 & 05, this is G60 Polar Group *18* for some reason. The large gap in batch nos. might be real indication that there are satellite manufacturing problems w/ some of the earlier batches (specifically the ones from Genesat of Shanghai, as per orbit raising behaviors of previous sats). But constellation operator Spacesail/Shanghai Spacesail Technologies seems confident now to restart deployment after a long pause since March 11. The subsequent movements of the 18 satellites of this Polar Group 18 will definitely be closely monitored from the outside.
>>16819265Pseduo-retired. It's in the same place the Ariane 5 was for the last few years of its career. Khrunichev shut down the Proton production line back in 2022, but they still had 14 unflown boosters left in stock. They had planed to have launched all of them by now, but Russia just doesn't have that many payloads that need rides to geostationary orbit.
>>16819269Thanks, bleh I was dumb & posted before even reading your entire post. I forgot they still had a handful left on the itinerary
Is RP1 or Propane more likely to be available in the 2040s?
>>16819242its on topic you salty ass nigga
>>16819285Only jeets use apu, back to your designated shitting orbit saar
>>16819285Propane just seems like a meme. I think RP-1 will still be around for cheaper rockets and Methane will be the big boy stuff.
>>16819285well I can't find RP-1 at my local hardware store. closest they have is kerosene. I can get propane pretty easily
Zhuque-3 Y1 getting delivered to Jiuquan. The launcher is currently on the LC-96B launch pad in preparation of a static fire in the next days before a launch in about a month.https://x.com/LandSpace_Tech/status/1979158729577893943
>>16819292
>>16819292China news is the glup shitto of spaceflight. Every other day it’s>YF-18 has been transported to Zhinquao after a successful hot firing at Changuang. It will deliver the Yunzhao-1 satellite, with the next one being launched on the upcoming maiden flight of Universe Space’s IX-L1 medium lunch vehicle next month.
Elon's Space Empire continues its march of Evil.
Elon assisting online scammers to run slave labor call centers in the jungle.
LA flexes on Houston:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bqMolALdVGg
>>16819301Looks cool. I'll never go there.
>>16819301JSC is pretty lame and none of the installments feel like they were designed with love. It’s a shame. I wish Trump or Isaacman would throw a billion or two at it and make it nice. Art deco, Beaux-Arts, something… Also we don’t need a shuttle. No one here except Cruz wants the shuttle lol
>>16819292no one gives a shit about chinkspace you can stop posting now>>16819296this
>>16819305Grim. I've only ever been to the Smith on the mall. Its got plenty nice stuff (Darkstar drone so secretive they covered the jet nozzle because fuck you)
>>16819309I enjoy the china news posts! I just find them uninteresting compared to more domestic news like what F9 and amazon and ULA is launching.China just has a billion boring launchers and payloads
>>16819301Ted Cruz can't touch this.
>>16819263won't run out for thirty years at this rate
>>16819321do you ever get tired of underestimating Russia?
>>16819321If they can mange the 2/year cadence that looks like the current Russian max they'll run out in late 2030. If they can only do 1/year they're look at launching from LC-81 until 2036. Given how Khrunichev is pushing to get the Angara 5 into regular operation most of those Protons are just going to end up in a rocket garden or scrapped.
Los Angeles will have not one but TWO Shuttles. The old Rockwell full size mockup is also going back on public display:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_qXGEfqYY
when is the next expected starship launch?
I was trying to find technical talks given by SpaceX employees but mostly came up empty. This is about the only thing that actually qualifies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYA0f6R5KAI
>>16819333? I thought the Shuttle got destroyed, I saw pictures on /sfg/
>>16819338w 2eeks
>>16819339>SimulationsI thought they don't do that in SpaceX.
>>16819343The truth is SpaceX does more CFD and computer analysis than ULA or Boeing.That talking point is retarded. The company is just run way better and the incentives are aligned
>>16819343https://youtu.be/xahiWQQKw7Y?si=KKomCccMYh8lGQHjStraight from the horses's mouth. They simulate and they also test a lot and early.
>>16819343why would they not? do you really think they caught the booster first try after not simulating anything?
>>1681934514 years ago lel
>>16819345>Stupid background musicI can't watch this.
>>16819345>pajeet replying to me
>>16819352That's from the time when they were the cool California tech startup (tm) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcaBI_I0Td0
>>16819327Wow basic math. I'm impressed
>>1681935The bar here is very low, to be fair
So those nasa spaceflight people said some of the engine bells on the booster for flight 11 were bent and hadnt been fixed since its initial landing. is this true? imagine if they never fix bells and just fly with bent engines. maybe the pressure of the exhaust automatically straightens the bells?
>once around... eris!BASED
>“What you have here is about 150 years’ combined experience at the top leadership level of this agency,” Draper recalled arguing, “You're telling me you can't find a place for these talented people?”Then he dropped to the ground and started to cry and kick his feet.
>>16819366things dont have to be perfect you know? they only have to work. enough with the autistic requirement that everything be shiny and just so. remember how they made the ships look used and beat up in Star Wars? thats because its realistic.
New space related fetish unlocked.You know, JPL founders were in freaky sex cult. Guess that tradition has continued.
>>16819297that's like blaming the roads for drunk drivers
>>16819369I never said they should polish the ship and give it a lick of paint. I just thought the bell might fail if it wasnt the right shape on ignition.
>>16819309I appreciate the chink updates.
>>16819372Actually, there is a situation here. The big telecoms bought off the government so they're protested, but the Feds have been going after small firms and voi providers being used by scammers. Elon may get some grief here. More bad PR at the least.
>>16819305Three hour drive to JSC for me and I can't gaf about shittle.I got to see one (probably Endeavor or Atlantis) taking off one morning on its carrier plane, so I have even less need.
>all those specific tilesShittle 2.0
>>16819366dynamic control algorithmshandling an under-performing engine is not much different from handling an engine out
>>16819368kek, this is based
>>16819368>you can't find a place for these talented people?tell them to get in line with the rest of us who can't even get call-backs from companies
>>16819379One they have a stable design, the installation can been automated. That's pick and place.
>>16819368ARE WE WINNING YET?
>>16819379you now remember transpiration cooling
>>16819373doesn't matter. thats why they have so many extras.
>>1681937995% of them are straight up hexagons (aka bestagons)Most of the rest are a hexagon with a straight cutBut every fucking Shittle tile was a snowflake
>>16819384So... who's gonna bring us Mars samples now
Can you take a picture of me being emotionally distraught for my Insta? Thank you SO much!"
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1979231198699237519Starship bath over boca
>>16819391quick, give Boing a cost-plus contract for MSR while nobody is looking
>>16819391>le commercial
>>16819393path
>>16819392>PatelI hear that ISRO is hiring.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/musk-trump-putin-tunnel-russia-alaska.html
>>16819379And it will definitely become worse in the future. I feel like either starships for humans won't be reused or they will be refurbished shuttle style.
>>16819399Tunnel for what?
>>16819394NB: The Rover is almost out of sample tubes. Think it's down to a half dozen. But even though the Rover could go on for years, there was no plan to resupply with new tubes from MSR.
>>16819399That would be cool. To go from Russia to America without flying over the ocean. I was going to say "would be cool to go from Russia to America without taking a flight", but that would mean spending a week on a train to get from where I live to the Bering Straight, and I don't like train rides.
>>16819399hell fucking no
>>16819391who gives a fuckwe'll analyze the rocks on Mars
>>16819296>>16819292>>16819309I'm interested but that anon is right, you never get launch footage or anything because they are terrified of bad news, so all you get are pics of nothing.Lets see them fuck up reusables for a year or two and at least make it interesting. I doubt we'll see one blow up.
>>16819400About cargo mode I wonder what would be the cost of and expendable ship, without tiles, ablative shield, fins, landing tanks and maybe it wouldn't even need those three sea level engines.Which means also a lot more payload, so even cheaper.
>>16819399lmao, Putin plays trump for the fool and it's so funny. 2 more weeks.
>>16819401Tanks and Russian prostitutes
>>16819393>aerobraking>aeroliftSpaceplane
>>16819399How reasonable it it to transport freight across subarctic / tundra climes as opposed to cargo ships?Chukotka is not connected by rail to the trans Siberian railway so that would have to be built. The rail gauges are also not compatible so you can't just simply drive the same trains across USA to Russia
>>16819399Hmm, looks like it's a bit less than 2 chunnels worth of tunneling. Of course neither side has much on either end, so it would be sort of a bridge both to and from nowhere.The important question: which rail gauge would they use inside? I doubt that RU uses the same rail gauge as US.
>>16819392>What does your job entail?>Today, I challenge myself to be the expert the agency needs as we develop our science priorities in space. This means ensuring we are investing in the science it takes to enable exploration and a return investment to life on Earth. This leadership position requires foresight and relationship building because almost all innovative advances are the result of partnerships and teams.complete non-answer on the "what would you say you do here?" questiongood riddance
>>16819326their last Proton launch was a couple years ago. Don't see much demand, especially with Angara A5 finally coming online.
>>16819393>>16819412Starship is a spaceplane
>>16819413It's obviously a bullshit proposal to make Trump delay any action in support of Ukraine for 2 more weeks. After that he will gie another 2 week ultimatum to Putin, Putin will resond with a phone call about 2 weeks after that and the cycle will repeat in about a fortnight.
>>16819399yeah, but how would you get from Alaska to the United States?getting to some non-location in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness accomplishes nothingeven worse, it's simply connected to another non-location literally in Siberia
>>16819413>How reasonable it it to transport freight across subarctic / tundra climes as opposed to cargo ships?Imagine driving a truck from New York to San Francisco, except on worse roads it's colder than you've ever experienced unless it's late spring, summer, or early autumn. This is just the Siberian part of the trip, now you also need to drive through west Russia to get to Europe.
>>16819417sir, this is a spaceplane
>>16819392AYO HOL UPSO YOU BE SAYINWE WUZ CHINESE EMPERORS N SHIET
>>16819392well, we have to fix earth's problems first, i thought everyone agreed on that
>>16819431why pay JPL 10 bil if you could pay rocketlab 1bil for the same thing?these incompetent money vacuums are holding spaceflight back
>>16819436if you give jpl 10b they'll deliver a 2b product. if you give rl 1b they'll deliver an 800m product. nasa wants a 10b product, so they pick jpl
>>16819436Do you actually believe rocketlab would manage that?
>>16819439Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry. He's like what if Musk wasn't a clown.
>>16819436>why pay JPLSo that our space endeavors don't depend on the whims of shareholders, CEOs, and the irrational market?
>>16819415lol
>>16819441>if Musk wasn't a clown.*launches another transporter mission*
>>16819443lolpay for performance you retarded fuck
>>16819439yes, so would spacex for that matter but spacex isn't really interested in doing small side missionsthe ISS deorbit thing is probably more of a "favor" than anything else (nobody else can really do it and spacex can do it relatively painlessly)
>>16819441>reusable carbon fiber second stage
>>16819452the second stage is expended
>>16819431"The poor shall be with you always..."Even Jesus dosen't believe in that
>>16819441>"Self taught " "Engineer">$6 NZ net worth -- all of it in his bubble company stock>Everyone thinks he's someone else. The drummer in KISS or something.
Is Starship the only thing Super Heavy can launch?Like, when it's complete, would it be a tremendous challenge to make an alternative simple clamshell second stage to deliver fuckhuge space telescopes or space station modules to orbit?
>>16819441>Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry! He just is okay!Rocket LabAnnual net income for 2024: -$190.18 million.Quarterly net income for Q2 2025: -$66.41 million.*chortle*
>>16819461that's what new glenn is for
>>16819461It would be hard, you would still need powerful second stage.
>>16819461They would probably do a clamshell expendable Starship at some point or figure out how to do the hungry hippo fairing with the heat shield and flaps.No way in hell Elon would allocate any resources to building another second stage or integrating someone else's.That's not happening
>>16819470hungry hippo nose is inevitabily the long term design of starship. It's proven that openings on shields are possible by the space shuttle landing gear.
>>16819441Lookin good, champ
>>16819481What's upmass?
>>16819480You don't really need to open the heat shield at all.Just have the non tiled half open up and eject the satellites with some sidewards velocity.
>>16819481Starlink doesn't count.
>>16819485holy copebtw how's that rocketlab dc2 constellation going?
>>16819462So what you're saying is that they're heavily focused on investing into product development?They got a $777m injection from their SPAC merger in 2021; I assume they're still investing that money.
>>16819485Why not?
>>16819488>SPAC merger in 2021they really never stood a chance. unfortunate
Is Sally Ride cool or lame?
>>16819485>Starlink doesn't count!Giant Moa hands typed that.
>>16819488>Get $777m in 2021>Lose it allNetLoss
>>16819491Artificial demand. RocketLab could also reach those numbers if they had their own constellation.
>>16819487Any updates on the Rocket Lab Mars Sample Return? Still going strong?
>>16819485There ya go. only 10X more than China now
>>16819499With what rocket
>>16819499
>>16819499>I could do that but I don't wanna!Oh, this is getting embarrassing.
>>16819499If only Rocket Lab had wheels then they could be a bike
Cope worldwide outage we all know who the nigger who's coping is its a chink most likely indian
>>16819511Is this the chic who got waylaid in her tesla at starbase and almost died
>>16819514It wasn't at Starbase it was in Florida ahead of Inspiration4 launch
>>16819514shhhhh it's bait for the aislopper.
>>16819499artifical demand that is printing money for SpaceX on the tune of 2x their launch revenue (and this is just the beginning)
>>16819514>waylaidhow does this happen wtf
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1979285350167253058
>>16819522surprised she still has the leg
>>16819502Okay, my bad, I thought it was the graph about number of launches. Still, my point stands. Of course SpaceX will be able to launch more mass into orbit if they have a bigger rocket in the first place, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Now, imagine if Falcon 9 was scaled down to the size of Electron, or the other way round, then that would be a fair metric.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1979271919850618919>Starship ascends to space
>>16819525Yeah
>>16819532
>>16819528China has bigger rockets too, they just don't use them very much, and leave it to the Long March 2 most of the time.
>>16819535
>>16819528If only Electron had wheels then they could be a bike
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/19792610471826351352 videos
Look at those tits!
>>16819483I dunno, you tell me what's up Doc?
>>16819483It's similar to updog
>>16819522Holy shit
>>16819549Be respectful anon :(but yeah lol
>>16819441>Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry.
>>16819441dinner is served
>>16819582That's a light meal.
>>16819519ooga booga where the bicyclists at
>>16819595not so sure she would be able to bike after her legs got that fucked up
Why couldn't they use pad A to test catch a ship?
Why are Falcon 9s white and not metallic
>>16819601thankfully grok was able to patch up her leg in the first few frames
>>16819549@gork animate her boobs expanding
Phobos in KSA.
>>16819616Why is it so easy for space sims to get Earth's atmosphere and clouds looking good, but Mars always looks like an ugly brown ball when the atmosphere looks like this?
>>16819607because they paint them with white paint and not metallic paint
>>16819607not made from steel
>>16819616>Phobos surface area: 16,400±8 km2 >Saudi Arabia land area: 2,150,000 km2checks out
>>16819620It doesn't look that different. What is that white layer? Clouds? When Blackrack does his magic I'm sure it'll look good too.
>>16819616Is there any better place to figure out asteroid colonisation than Phobos?
I unironically work for Boeing and have my finger on the pulse of the place pretty well. Morale's been up bigly recently and there's been a real shift internally, not to spoil anything but there's some pretty big stuff in the works regarding Starliner II. Might be a good time to buy in, not financial advice.
>>16819634Sorry I meant to schedule this post for April 1st, my b
>>16819636Whats that supposed to mean?
>>16819644Blue sunsets look unwholesome
>>16819610It really doesn't like boobs :-(
>>16819663HAHAHAHA
>>16819610there was a way
>>16819666good work, Satan
>>16819408idk what to tell you, orienspace just entirely livestreamed their latest launch with onboards, the chinese private are less afraid than some american companies.
Quitting /sfg/ until something absolutely revolutionary happens (very low TRL)
>>16819677see you tomorrow
>>16819666Can you start namefagging so I can filter your posts
>>16819677don't forgetyou're here forever>>16819686sure, what name should I use?
>>16819666The milkship has arrive.
>>16819666I was hoping for a wet T-shirt contest
bitch is mid as fuck and not even spaceflight
>wake up>nothing at all happened todayugh
>>16819724spaceflight
>>16819727thats what im talking about. nothing happened today. all we got was a small hit piece about starshield and thats it.
>>16819729yeah i know
>le glass bubbles that we will then keep stacked ontop of its module and fill with regolithWhat the fuck even is this. Why would you fund this retarded idea that would probably take multiple decades to even get a prototype launched and powered.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5lMst6McUs
>>16819746I'm skeptical of any Insitu structure honestly. in the near term we can just ship inflatables with starship.
>>16819746the words "insanely retarded" come to mindthey're going to make a giant structure (25 stories or so high according to their image) by inflating it with "high pressure gas"later they say it's going to be filled with argonjust to get that thing to 1 atmosphere they'd need like 400 tons of argonwhere is the gas coming from? if it's not argon they're making it on the moon, so I guess it's oxygen but they don't describe making anymaking enough "high pressure gas" to inflate a 25 story high molten glass bubble is much harder than the part of the project they actually describe
>>16819746it doesn't take long for this to look retarded
>>16819750O2 would be a byproduct from processing regolith but even then it's still silly to make your habitat out of fucking glass like why. there is abundant regolith to use to make concrete structures or you can process the metals and make aluminum or titanium
>>16819753yeah, just sinter some fucking rocks and you're done
>>16819755ICON mentioned
>>16819752Is tipping included in the bill?
>>16819753>>16819755Isn't sintering the rocks producing glass? That's how I understood it.Landing pads would essentially be made by driving a heater over flattened soon and it ends up being that brown moon glass
>>16819752timber!!
>>16819763"glass" is any substance with no ordered crystalline structure. they dont all have the same material properties as silica glass
>>16819755>Just like they do in construction on EarthWait. That's not how they do it on Earth. So there's probably a lot more involved than just that.
>>16819770yeah, because on earth you can buy construction materialsbut on the moon all you have is fucking rocksheating them up is like the simplest thing you can do short of just breaking them
>>16819746>Why?NASA DEI NIAC. The CEO of this company that is going to build glass house on the Moon is in delivering tortillas in Mexico:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-martin-bermudez-07722311
>>16819776You don't even know how a driveway is constructed on Earth, let alone buildings, roads and airports. Please stop posting. You're making us look bad.
>>16819695Well, that's a development...
>>16819661Because it's the opposite of here on Earth.
>>16819767I get that it's not going to be like what we've gotta in windows but still I thought that was the main outcome of lunar regolith, don't think you can make like proper bricks out of it in an oven, it's basically always going to be glassThe whole things a moot point though because that stupid fucking video has all this effort for the shell then fills it with a million tonnes of stuff you need to bring from earth anyway
>>16819780shut up, faggotI've poured driveways and that has nothing to do with this
wtf rocket is that in the back? Is it sloppa?
>read about eLORAN>wikipedia article on LORAN mentions it in passing>never updated again for 15 yearsThat website is dying, just not in the way I expected. You see this kind of shit everywhere. Looks like DoD and DHS are in fact serious about eLORAN and the retards in gov't who shut it down and blocked funding for eLORAN because it threatened GPS funding are finally gone. I won't even mention procurement has already been bungled by at least one agency because that is the norm these days.
>>16819177Is there an updated version of this?
>>16819794My closest guess is that it's an Atlas V 431, but that doesn't make much sense. It'd be weird if it's slop considering the sheer number of perfectly good public-domain images for rockets, but given that it has what appears to be an escape tower... maybe it is.
>this guy is confined to a wheelchairwtf i never knew this whole time
>On May 16, 2006, a bully punched Rosenstein so hard that he fell to his knees. Two days later, he screamed out at home.>“We picked him up and called an ambulance,” his father told the newspaper. "He hasn't walked since.">Rosenstein was paralyzed from the waist down due to a clot that had formed after the blow in a major artery above his abdomen. When the clot moved down to his spine, it burst, leaving him paralyzed. Complications resulting from his paralysis, such as scoliosis, led to 19 surgeries and a complete spinal fusion. He almost died several times, Youngman said.did he get punched by goku
>>16819806>>16819794Atlas V (or any American rocket?) ever had four boosters. The tower makes me think LC39, but the configuration is all wrong. Also escape tower on a fairing.
>>16819817There is a recent story about something similar. A clot from a punch causes a teen to become disabled. No idea how that happens.
>>16819821>any American rocket ever had four boostersThis is worded like a statement. Was it supposed to be a question?Anyways, I can only see 3, and the orientation of the rockets is a bit weird, so I figured maybe it was an assymetrical booster configuration. As it so happens, the Atlas V HAS an assymetrical 3 booster configuration. It's the 431. (Technically, there is also the 531, which is the same thing but with a 16 foot fairing, but that looks like a leaner fairing to me.)I originally said stouter fairing, oops.
Say you took Mars but replaced all the surface iron with copper, would we get a green sand desert planet?
>>16819838yes
>>16819839friggin aweseom
Oh, and uh, if you're curious, yes the U.S. has used the 431. Specifically, Echostar has used it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxYlm5z45I&t=4536>>16819838Probably, but it looks like Minmus with an atmosphere when you do that.
>>16819837I guess I should have elaborated further.The pic has quite thick SRBs compared to the core. The ends also taper into cones not smoothly like with Atlas.
>>16819842Oh, lolYeah to be honest I clocked that instantly too, but for some reason I forgot to mention it the first time. "that doesn't make much sense" was me admitting that my guess didn't pass a sniff test beyond "hey, the general concept for what appears to be an Atlas V is there."It's still such a weird ass thing to generate. Like, honestly, there's so many other images you could use freely...
>vast mission control has a false floor to hide all the cablingworking there must be suffering. anything that moves will send vibrations thoughout mission control, giving people nausea and uncomfortable feelings. you work in a high stress environment but they design a shitty work area for you because muh clean design aesthetic.
>>16819845Firstly, which mission control room? You mean ALL of them? They certainly don't put the cables in the ceilings, because that would obstruct the bigger screens. Secondly, what the fuck are you talking about? "Giving people nausea and uncomfortable feelings?" "Anything that moves will send vibrations throughout mission control?" The latter doesn't even happen with decent false flooring, and the former is nonsensical. No one's going to panic because I'm stamping my feet while thinking.
>>16819849i used to work in an office with false floors and that bitch had uncomfortable vibrations when people walked around. there's no reason workers should be getting motion sickness at a desk.
>>16819850You're right! There is no reason workers should be getting motion sickness at a desk!. . . which is why I'm baffled that my completely underfunded community college that couldn't afford to replace their abestos dorms for several decades apparently had BETTER false flooring than your office job.
>>16819514>waylaidWhat does that mean?
>>16819832it's been happening quite a lot more than it used to
>>16819852In this context, stopped or interrupted abruptly and unpleasantly.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxjYvnZ1Z0s
>>16819817Poor kid. Perhaps I was too harsh on him
>>16819757I wonder if it will be more power or time efficient to sinter the regolith into bricks first then laser weld them together.
>>16819852>You have been waylaid by lunchtime rowdies and most defend yourself
>>16819763Sintering is fusing particles together (like in pottery or bricks). There is relatively lots of pores that make it brittle. The benefit is you can shape it cold.You can melt just about any rock to lava if you heat a bit more, but then you have to cast it (pic rel)For glass, you need high% of silica, with very little other mineralsTypically, you also add flux to lower the melting temperature and allow it to retain amorphous state without crystallisation.Lava (raw molten regolith) doesn't have the same viscosity and strength glass has, so blowing bubble out of it is pure fantasy.
>>16819385THEY TOOK MY SWEATY GIRL FROM ME
>>16819817I hate assholes who "vacation" in Scottsdale. Kill yourselves, get out of my state. There is nothing of value in that soulless shithole town.
>>16819883>SNNNIIIFFFFFFFF SNNNNEEERRRRT
>>16819841Why would the dust still be red? Wouldn't it be blue also?
"Hey Hey! OMG!"
>>16819905Youtube thumbnails are a literal cancer on the planet
>>16819817>get punched>spend two whole days thinking about how to maximize profits>luckily you have several doctors and lawyers in your family>make up a story that defies reality but you have the best expert witnesses and lawyers>the bully's lawyer tries to defend him, anti-semitically pointing out the implausible nature of the claim>judge assigned to the case is a co-religionist>bully's family offers to settle immediatelyI'm only surprised he didn't get more
>>16819817vaxx status?
>>16819915the family didnt get sued afaik, it was the school district. so the taxpayers paid him the money.
>>16819817>the New Jersey school board in the district where he was a student has agreed to a $4.2 million settlementso fucking disgusting. the perpetrator got away unpunished. instead the tax payer had to pay big time. how are tax payers so cucked that this happens every time?
How do we solve this?
>>16819920damn. if weenus was not so hot it would be a great place for solar.
>>16819922Not really because on the surface it's even darker than Mars.
>>16819920collapse Jupiter into fusion
>>16819920its not a problem on mars, but i believe i read that we need improved solar tech to do jupiter. it was awhile back so we might've already caught up on the solar tech.
>>16819924Why is it rocks and desert everywhere we go
>>16819927A geochemist would say because gibbs free energy wants to tend towards an equilibrium
>>16819384But seriously? Are we winning yet?https://www.planetary.org/articles/promoted-on-sunday-fired-on-monday-inside-a-nasa-offices-sudden-closure
>>16819930ffs I read this as "it gibbs free energy"
>>16819930Then why is Earth so alive?
>>16819924for it to be cooler I thought not having a 90 bar atmosphere was taken as a given
Thanks for letting us know there's probably Martian life living on the ice caps, but NASA only likes to look at sand dunes, or craters, or sand dunes in craters.
>>16819935Idk. Life and living organisms, at least as we know it, is strange and goes against these principals, increasing overall entropy. One of God’s great mysteries
>>16819937please understandpoles too hard to get to
>>16819905THATS INSANE
>>16819905You now remember this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGQ-qkoZOk
>>16819946also mass autismreal scientific instruments too heavy
>latest MECO is just some boomer CNN reporter seething about getting refused an interview with SpaceX/Shotwell and equating SpaceX doing fade-to-blacks for explosions now to the USSR's censorshiplmaojust get over it dude
>>16819920Move the sun closer
>>16819967b-but the poor earthlings
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1979542069946552550>More official renders of Starship including the tanker, depot and HLS lander just dropped! I still think HLS should drop anything not needed after TLI (Raptors / Tankage)...https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20250008727
>>16819978shits getting real
>>16819920if you are still using solar by the time you colonize the outer solar system you're NGMI
>>16819918>>16819919Wait, how does this make any sense?Person A assaulted Person B, so everybody else has to pay Person B?Why? Isn't this on Person A? Why is everybody else on the hook for a single penny?What the fuck is this excuse for justice?
>>16819920Helium 3, if this won't work, Uranium, if this won't work, geothermal.
>>16819922>>16819925>>16819926>>16819967>>16819984>>16819994I was talking about the psychological effects, spergs.
>>16819920whats the problem? also, special light bulbs
>>16819997Don't care, still voting Trump.
>>16819999checkt
>>16819922>>16819924>>16819927>surfaceretards
>>16820017Why not go a little higher until temps are sub 30 and you'd be able to walk around with nothing but an oxygen breather. Also Venus' upper atmosphere is whitish-yellow not blue.
>>16820018You could but it's easier to blame the intern who made that for being retarded.
Venus is for foids
>>16819978>What's the difference between a tanker and a depot? how do these people breathe
Boys go to Jupiter to get stupider
>>16820032girls go to Venus to get peenus?
It does seem like 55-58km is a sweet spot. You wouldn't want to go outside in the clouds though so navigating around the taller ones is likely needed to go outside. There's going to be areas with lower cloud tops I would assume.
>>16820035fug
>>16819919My family got less for a boat explosion that maimed my mother and sister. Guess I shoulda got Jew lawyers
>>16820042sorry about that explosion btw. won't happen again boss.
>>16820032you dropped this
>>16820049why aren't they on bikes
MOOOM OTP-2 IS ACTING WEIRD AGAIN
>>16819978MOGGED
>>16820052You and the ass guy should get a room and you can entertain yourselves with your nonsense.
https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1979371645690376432
>>16820056>needing AI to explain what has been known for centuries
>>16819978https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1979561031535120692
>>16820052>apogee altitude goes down>perigee altitude goes up at the same time>you can't explain this!fucking magnets, how do they work?!
>>16820063line go up, line go down you can't explain that
why build in moon lava toob when we can make lava toob
I wonder if there will be a some sort of conflict because of Mars in this century. I think Phobos could maybe have a huge benefit in colonizing Mars and it isn't that big, in picture I have illustrated its surface area. So maybe there will be a race to colonize Phobos with possibly military engagements.
>>16820078>T72 is on Phobos>fires main gun once>T72 is now on Deimos
>>16820080strategic redeployment
>>16820069Because it's already there and facilitates an easier first-foothold. That isn't to say we could take a boring machine and expand it. I think an area with already-in-place lava tubes also helps reveal local subsurface geology as locally homogenous and structurally welcoming to more and more anthropological underground tubes and caverns versus other more sandy/unstable areas of the Moon
Is this the new one or old?https://x.com/Starlink/status/1979594186816098799
where the fuck is the drone shotwhy tease it in the stream if you're not gonna show it
>>16820099Ship landed too far away from the target for the drone to see it.
>>16820099It hit the drone
>>16820099Is SpaceX pretty independent at this point with the sheer amount of Starlink revenue, or do they still have a lot of private investors like google, steve jurveston, founders fund, fidelety, etc that they are beholden to? I wonder if Elon has deduced that a significant portion of his overall investors in to SpaceX have started getting annoying when they see headlines about exploding rockets, so he has decided to purposefully cut those out for the time being and also purposefully drip-feed some of the kinography shots to just keep all the investors happy and chugging along without any complaints
>>16819498Yes, they're "losing" the money because they're investing it into new products? Engineer salaries, etc.
>>16820110people with Sp*ceX brain don't listen to rational info when it comes to other companies.
Is Kepler 452b the final home of humanity?
>>16819920Simple and effective
>>16820055It's a meme, you dip
>>16820058That's not what portmanteau means
>>16819997>erm actually my vague bait question was actually about this not that.Kys faggot
>>16820100it landed right next to the buoy retard
>>16820056>no fossils on MarsThat we know of. Just wait till we find a coal vein on the moon
>>16820100>Ship landed too far away from the targetThey are going to completely the launch tower aren't they?
>>16820126and here i was thinking de nial was a river in egypt
>>16820108If the company is structured correctly, Elon doesn't really have to worry as much about keeping investors happy. Consider also that the investor pool for Spacex is mostly comprised of people that share the actual vision instead of "line go up every quarter or I shit and piss everywhere."But to answer your first question, yes, Starlink is now paying for itself and producing enough cash flow into the company as a whole that the scales are heavily leaning in Spacex's favor in any kind of negotiations/agreements with investors and lenders. Spacex will almost certainly keep raising investor money and borrowing funds because that's how you grow aggressively, but the giant cash pipeline that is Starlink gives them the leeway to basically write their own terms.
>>16820130you can see the buoy on the stream and there is footage from the buoyit was like 50m awayhttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/1978905901344907726
>>16820133I don't think it will take many years until they don't really need to raise cash anymore assuming they dont' start spamming a lot of starships at marsand when they are ready to do that starlink should really print money
>>16820108Elon is dictator. If the investors don't like it they can fuck off and sell their shares, unsurprisingly they don't.
>>16820137Most of the recent cash raises were just opportunities to sell shares for people who wanted to.
>>16820126it landed too close to the buoy and the camera couldnt focus
>>16820117no, it’s gonna be some stupid lame supercomputer network here in our solar system that we try to eternally protect as all futurefags upload their consciousness to it and try to “beat God” and live forever
>>16820140yeah that too, secondaries
>>16820099did you skip the previous thread? there are links to drone shots therehttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/1978179844656480423
>>16819896I just hue shifted it man, I don't know why the red kept being red.>>16819985I think the logic goes is that Person B warned the school that Person A was going to do it. They ignored B, which enabled A to actually escalate into a punch.
>>16820163what the fuck
In the non-gay timeline Brits would be launching rockets from here and colonising the Solar System. It even has the perfect name.
How does anyone truly hate this dude?I just stumbled across this tweet and I can't stop fucking laughing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UAwZo5Cxc
>>16820183its tru do, chess is a game for retards. however diablo 4 is too
>>16819920Light cabins fitted with white-hot lamps with an extremely high lumen factor. Same cabins should also have IR and UV bulbs fitted for heat, tanning and vitamin-D production. Each therapy treatment lasts an hour or two daily, bathing the person in light and heat to ward off depression and the heat allows for proper rest and a reduced metabolism, reducing daily caloric intake needs. UV lamps will be automatically turned off if the person has exceeded daily UV exposure limits.Proper lightning throughout the base and special colours for the walls also aid in modulating brightness and helping the circadian rhythm. Example being that work-spaces should have bright lights, bright neutral/pastel colours and roomy and bedrooms for example should have warmer, dimmer lights with reddish/brownish colours, hue's and be cozy. Heating should also be adjustable.
>>16820183chess is boring as fuck. There is a reason chess champions are never useful outside of chess. it attracts the kind of math brained automatons who like to memorise shit and have no creative thought. Not really true intelligence imo.
FLIGHT 12 POLYMARKET IS ONLINE!
>>16820147Wait till they find out uploading is a scam since it's just a copied brain scan and the jeet technician forgot to terminate your brain after the scan
2026 is going to be the most exciting year for space travel since 1969>Haven-1>Starship orbital refueling>Artemis-2>Sierra LIFE>Starship full reuseThe space age we were promised for so long is actually finally beginningNo more vaporwareNo more setbacksNo stopping until Andromeda
>>16820207inb4 everything gets kicked back to Q4 (a.k.a scrubbed another year and then some)
>>16820204uploading wouldn't even do anything. consciousness isn't reducible to just the firing of neurons or 1s and 0s on a computer. there is a quantum aspect to consciousness that we aren't aware of yet.
>>16820207Just like 2025 was supposed to be an exciting year for starship and all we ended up getting was failures.
>>16820218third times the charm
>>16820213And do you have any evidence of that or you are just asking to trust your instinct?
>>16820198>November 30
>>16820183ouch. I really love chess, used to study it and play it every day, it's like my comfort game. This is not the first time he criticizes it, and he's right at the end. It's something that is not much useful outside of just... playing chess. It'll still be my guilty pleasure, though.
>>16820224I have personal experiential evidence which is indisputable for me but not enough for the wider scientific community. Not going to pretend otherwise.
>>16820204Soma moment.
One corner of the internet is saying that SpaceX has grown negligent of HLS development and sees Artemis as politically unstable–thus any lander dev is secondary to simply getting Starship operational for Starlink growth (which is almost guaranteed at this point produce more money for them than the artemis contract could ever dish out)Another corner is saying that ‘Lon is just being sneaky, and that for whatever reason they are for sure working on & prioritizing HLS under cover of night, and somehow HLS SS is just going to emerge next year out of a spooktent completed and ready to fly a long-duration test mission Is the truth likely somewhere in between?
>>16820243as someone who has worked with the HLS team, yes they're serious about it.
>>16820243>for Starlink growth (which is almost guaranteed at this point produce more money for them than the artemis contract could ever dish out)it already does
>>16820207>ignores new glenn
>>16819633Proximity with Mars makes things a bit different from a random free flying asteroid in the belt (e.g. can't get continuous sunlight), but yeah, it's the perfect playground. I wish it was in orbit around Earth, stuff like ISRU would have been solved for ages.
>>16820236OK THEN BACK OFF. PUNK.
>>16820259doesn't make it any less true
>>16820163I get it
>>16820253I was actually about to ask "the fuck is New Glenn gonna do that's interesting">look it up>they're sending an uncrewed Blue Moon lander to the moon in two monthssheeeeeeit I didn't realize they were that ready, I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Blue Origin goes from agonizingly slow to warp speed overnight
>>16820262they just don't show their work publically muchand bluemoon mk1 doesn't need orbital refilling?
Reminder that the Moon, Mars, Ceres, Callisto, and all other heavenly bodies belong to Britannia.
>>16819633>>16820257Another issue is that you probably don't want to shit up Mars orbits with a fuckton of dust.
soon bros
>>16820265Kek, make sure that there even is a Britain left at the end of this century. Otherwise, dreaming about colonizing the rest of the system is one that is forever (For Brits that is).
>>16820272
>>16820265All hail Britanniahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIK0jg-yxk
I can't wait for the cuckpod era to be over.The Shuttle was supposed to deliver us from it, only to retvrn to cuckpod
>>16820270Sandbraking. A technique for landing large payloads on Mars using the sands of Phoboshttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1270963817300664
>>16820284The Shittle was way worse then any of the cuckpods safe for perhaps Shitliner. Glad that Starship is here though, finaly something that moves spaceflight forward.
>>16820290>pocket sand yourself to slow downwhat the fuck
>>16820062.614 km^3 :)
>>16820262Absolutely zero chance of this happening successfully. Jeff did a ferociter when he should have graditimed
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1979636589279273285lol apparently joe rogan got a tour of starbase
>>16820307That's high praise from someone who has done a bunch of psychedelic drugs.
>>16820296If BO makes a lander and NASA puts people in it, they will certainly die
>>16820262they are not launching this year, you can bet on it.
If you were the great Bezos, would you be happy with your position after all these years and $15B spent?
>>16820334With my current knowledge of how bad blue is, NO...I firmly believe, however, that Jeffrey Bezos seriously believes BO is neck-and-neck competitive with SpaceX right now. He sees himself as equal, delusionally
>>16820334He's won quite a bit of contract without having to deliver anything. Just because "I HATE ELON MUSK" reason
>>16820307isn't he a FEther?
>>16820339who knows
>>16820334probably doesn't even notice that money and gets to have a potentially cool rocket company.
>>16819401don't be antisemitic
>>16820339depends which strain of weed he's smoking at any one time.
>>16819469ok, how about a starship with no flaps and no tiles just a nose that comes off?
>>16820359not fully reusable
Is terrorism a big issue for P2P?From the perspective of a anti rich/environmentalist terrorist a starship loaded up with wealthy travelers represent very high value and ease of execution as just a drone or ula sniper equals most probable death...I think the counter is to allocate some of the seats to poor third world kids, demotivating any foul play
>>16819616if you set off little nukes in the focus of that crater you could make it into an orion ship
>>16819638it's a joke
>>16820337and because he made his own company buy from BO
>>16819913Blame LTT
>>16820339>"hey man like no one knows for sure right?">actually we do here is evidence, proof and records>"yeah. yeah but like no one still knows? like I don't know?"
>>16820374based not-sure-about-that-er
>>16820361I'm not asking for it to be reusable, just for it to put a very large object in space.
>>16820171Wait til they figure out it's because they designed it to land on Mars first
>>16820380no point in a partially reusable starship
>>16820110"Rocket Lab: Venus in 2025!,
>>16820380If you have a working Starship, you launch a hold full of sub assemblies and build the large object in space.
>>16820385Starship Moon 2024.See how easy that was?
Damn joe rogan actually has insane insight into this now kek he hit the nail directly on its head and drove the nail down to the center of the earth
>>16820383shit bait, tard
>>16820401you don't get sub 100$/kg by expending starships. you just don't.
Pennies for venus missions
>>16820307I bet his video would have been better than EDA tour video
>>16820470remember the time EDA gave elon the idea that doomed several flights. I member
wen hop?
fuck the hop wen mars
>>16819301They started building this when I was in High School.I'm now 10 years into my career, married, and have a daughter on the way
>>16819401freight trains probably, would allow a direct rail link to Chyna and free up a LOT of port space
>>16819481This is out of date btw. SpaceX flies more mass to space in 9 months than the shittle did over 30 yearshttps://brycetech.com/reports/report-documents/bryce-briefing-2025-Q2/
>>16820218We did end up getting the perfect V2 flights that they were looking for, after a fashion.
>>16820198>Nov 30I'm all in
>>16820272Give us the fucking Ioli cats
>>16820502Go back to /g/ faggot
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1979762066191011999>Mission successful of LJ-1 Y8. https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1979743120456822937>Next Chinese launch to orbit is coming again in just about half an hour. I am still not sure about the rocket, nor perhaps most of the passengers, but China’s close ally Pakistan government’s SUPARCO reports they have a hyperspectral EO satellite on board: https://www.brecorder.com/news/40387540/pakistan-to-launch-first-hyperspectral-satellite-from-china-on-oct-19
>>16820509>Next Chinese launch to orbit is coming again in just about half an hour. I am still not sure about the rocket, nor perhaps most of the passengers, but China’s close ally Pakistan government’s SUPARCO reports they have a hyperspectral EO satellite on board:jeetchuds, your response?
>>16820510https://x.com/r_isro/status/1979646883753787481>Regional media report suggests BlueBird Block-2 FM1 satellite by AST Space Mobile has arrived at SDSC-SHAR on 17 October. Launch expected in late November.https://www.andhrajyothy.com/2025/national/bluebird-experiment-to-launch-in-november-american-satellite-reaches-shar-1457604.html>Sullurpeta, October 17 (Andhra Jyoti): The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is gearing up for another commercial launch. It is getting ready to send the American Bluebird Block-2 communication satellite into space by the end of November from Sriharikota using an LVM3-M6 rocket. The 6,500 kg satellite, which will be launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Shar, first reached Chennai from the US. It was transported to Shar in a special vehicle by road under CISF security in the early hours of Friday. Along with this satellite, 8 American scientists also reached Shar. All of them will remain here until the launch is completed.
>>16819499this is some of the most advanced cope I've ever seen
>>16820374>I don't understand it so it must be wrong90% of conspiracy theories
>>16820363Why don't people shoot down airplanes?
>>16820502>troon colour patchesAnd those faggots were gaslighting me on the Discord for saying I don't want furshit because it's a gateway to other kinds of degeneracy. Seriously, the best thing about KSP was that there was no agenda in it whatsoever, nothing for either side to get mad about. And yet here they are, already wanting to force their shit into KSA.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-19/wa-space-debris-reentry-investigation/105909612
>>16820198Based and using my last satoshis pilled
>>16820568Ah yes, my favorite trans pride flag colors: Turquoise and salmon.
>>16820570>the Australian Space AgencyLel, all 1 part time workers
>>16820570The only thing Australia seems to come up in the news space related is pieces of space junk landing on them lol
>>16820572Don't act like it isn't intentional, disingenuous cunt. I've seen you faggots do this hundreds of times thinking you're clever.
>>16820579>don't act like it isn't intentionalThese colors are literally so far removed from the actual colors of the trans flag(AND it's missing anything that resembles white and pink!) that it's bordering on complaining that the flag of FUCKING HAITI was a secret trans flag.Salmon isn't a pink by the ways, it's a washed out orange.Unbelievable. Of all the things to take problem with, you picked the only thing that anyone with good eyesight and a decently high contrasting monitor can immediately object to.
>Australian Space Agency"Hails of derisive laughter."
>>16820585Total troon death
>>16820590Don't get me wrong, I agree. I'm also just worried you're wasting your energy here. No point in tiring yourself out and leaving yourself unable to deal with the ACTUAL troonshit.
>>16820171YES
>>16820183chess is a battle, go is a war
https://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1979569285120102405
>>16820183I used to play chess during PE in winter since it was too cold to exercise outside. I know a guy who really likes and plays it for fun over video games, but I can't comprehend that. It's just not fun to me. Even when bored with nothing to do, I'd rather be doing crosswords or sudoku than play chess.
>>16820568I just think that chibishit (in general, as well) is objectively ugly, and would rather something that's better proportioned
>>16820606I would rather you furfags and troons stop shitting everything good up
>>16820585Get fucked YWNBAW
>>16820363No more than a plane.Terrorism would be relly be an issue on Mars, a single starship intentionally crashing on a big colony would be fatal.One of the reasons why I think settlements should be many smaller ones instead of a big single one.
>>16820587It's kinda sad that this kindergarden-drawing shit is the absolute pinacle of Australian space exploration. I am ENDLESSLY SEETHING that New Zealand is mogging us.>muh GilmourFucking Astra is lightyears ahead of them
Between this and their Lunar "Roo-ver", it just seems like an odd take. Making a Dad Joke about yourself.
>>16820623Australia is full of this cultural cringe stuff, feeling the need to deprecate themselves. They're an odd, neurotic people, lacking in pride.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979746018498654274lots of starship related posts from musk
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979844869226213630
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979848708943663221
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979849522374423026
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979862682674356461
>>16820626Yeah this is cool and all when's flight 12?
>>16820626For a crew of twoFor one weekKinda overkill.
>>16820638Orion is undersized
>>16820638It's almost too big. Might get kinda spooky. Eternal low sunlight outside, strange creaks from elsewhere in the ship
>>16820633SpaceX is going to crash and burn isn't it?
>>16819379Status on their automated tile gizmo 3000? We still using mexicans for 2 more weeks?
>>16820582That's funny. People here seethe about this kind of JPL artisinal work, but it's nice and shows that they understand the gravitas of going to a new world. Reminder that it's not JPL's fault that launch has been so expensive. With the cards they were dealt theyve made amazing vehicles second to none.
>>16820612At least you have a rocket and a functional launch pad. How do you think us bongs feel? We went from ruling the waves to being the butt of the entire world. Fucking India which we conquered and dominated has a more successful space program than we ever had.
>>16820638Blame Shartemis not Starship
>>16820644you have no ambition
>>16820651its not launch that makes JPL shit expensivethey could make 10 missions with the same cash instead of 10 mission every ten yearsand maybe you are unaware or forgot that JPL has been aggressively defending its "turf" by basically cockblocking anything that tries to do what they do, such as red dragon from SpaceXthey are to blame as much as any ossified bureucracy can be
>>16820661https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26270977tl:dr from grok>Ex-NASA insider: SpaceX's Red Dragon (cheap Mars lander/sample return) got killed in three separate concept studies by NASA politics—JPL turf war to protect their bloated jobs program, humiliation for Lockheed's Orion capsule, and lobbyist senators threatening to gut SpaceX's NASA contracts. Elon ditched it for Starship.
>>16820339He's basically a blank slate that resets between every episode, and asks dumb questions to make the guest feel smart and keep them talking for three hours
> Enter SpaceX and the 2014 Red Dragon proposal, which was an all-in-one Mars sample return mission that launched on a single Falcon Heavy and landed a rocket inside of the dragon capsule that was powerful enough to send the collected sample directly back to Earth. Do it all in one mission, and at 10x - 100x reduction in cost. So cheap it didn't even need to be a flagship mission and could be outsourced to industry and academia (like New Horizons was).>JPL was not impressed. Play with your little toy satellites all you want, but don't fuck around with the golden goose. 2014 Red Dragon sample return proposal was a direct threat to the entire Mars planetary exploration program and semi-autonomous JPL's bottom line. They hit back hard trying to discredit the proposal with a bunch of underhanded arguments and agency politics. That's about the time I left NASA so I didn't get to see it fully play out, but apparently JPL won out because in the end the sample-return version of Red Dragon was deselected from funding.
>>16820661Same for SLS. Anyone with a brain will tell you the delta-v you get with SLS can easily be replicated with a couple of kick stages in orbit and it will do us a lot of good to develop those technologies (zero boil off) for the future but Congress et al keeps cockblocking these projects.
>>16820669all of NASA and its contractors were jobs programmes for decades, and most of it still is
>>16820669Today I will remind them
>>16820672@grok disable rocket equation.
https://x.com/Blobifie/status/1979600941746950154
https://x.com/S_F_Archive/status/1979873982355820774
>>16820688>Booster turned out to be the easy partThat was a surprise.
>>16820689That's a really good outcome
>>16820213Aristotle and later Thomas Aquinas both attribute it to the existence of a soul
>>16820628>2 crewedby what? a robot and a dog? you can say people you know. this dei shit is cringe.
>>16820633>elon wants to build a dyson sphereoh boy
Ok, maybe the Universe is expanding to the left and the right but what is at the bottom and the top of the universe?
>>16820704Most dark matter has fallen to the bottom of the universe due to gravity, you have to look down there to find that stuff.
>>16820688SN5 was fun to watch. So was SN8.
>>16820704a 3d universe like ours bounded by a 4 dimensional region would look like an infinitely large area to those on the inside. alternatively space is infinite in size and the universe expands into it.
>>16820698he has been talking about it for a while
Was Falcon XX supposed to use a bunch of clustered Merlins? Or just 9 new very-scaled-up merlins like some sort of modern F-1
>>16820715Woah it used merlin 2
https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1979865110324900275/>Starship Fuel Depot launch.
https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1979747350865457652>Undocking from a fuel depot.
>>16820726>>16820727official renders?
>>16820728ksp
>>16820726>Starship Fuel Depot launch.[math]\unicode{x1F62F}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62F}[/math]>Truthful[math]\unicode{x1F611}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F611}[/math]
>>16820488extremely retardedyou'd have to build thousands of miles of rail and the freeze and thaw cycles would absolutely fucking wreck them, so a considerable fraction would need to be repaired every yearand it would still be significantly more expensive than shipping
>>16820688where's MK3/SN1?And MK4 (built in Cocoa Beach), and SN7.2... man, I still remember that one being tested while watching it live on the LabPadre stream... those were the times.
>>16820730
>>16820587Fuck the wifi tax and fuck australiaI'd beg God to curse australia and turn it into a blasted desert filled with subhuman orcs and venomous creatures of all kinds, but He is way ahead of me
>>16820738missing I guess, its also missing a bunch of unlaunched boosters I think
>>16820656you forgot the part about never being slaves, kek
>>16820695actually some of the crew will be blacks
>>16820628>1000m^3wow, a cubic kilometer?
>>16820688>SN42 and SN69 will debut sooni wonder what surprises elon has for us
>>16820727>fuel depot has the male side of the docking mount pointschat, how do we feel about this
>>16820667yeah, the hackernews-red-dragon copypasta is common knowledge here.
>>16820753saves mass for the vehicle that has to do repeated flights, the depot is going nowhere
>>16820664>JPL gets reduced by 550 jobswho's laughing now?
>>16820758they should make a movie out of this
>>16820764after the first starship mars landing
>>16820667>>16820758I still wonder from time to time how things would've turned out had SpaceX gotten away with their Red Dragons. I mean, they would've gained a lot of experience and real data in terms of interplanetary reentry, and ECLSS for extended periods of time, though it might've still slowed things down in the long term for Starship (?), as they would've spent lots of resources and time on these missions.
https://www.tomshardware.com/service-providers/network-providers/secret-spacex-satellites-are-transmitting-mysterious-signals-on-the-wrong-spectrum-a-classified-network-caught-sending-data-on-the-uplink-frequency
>>16820775>starshield is owned by spacexstopped reading right there
>>16820751SN69 will be the first orbital refueling attempt.
>>16820775The military doesn't give a fuck about the ITU oh my goooood
>>16820779Hot.
reminder you dont hate journalists enough
>>16820768it would have not slowed down starship. different teams. all it would have done is speed starship development and also give morale to elon stans.
>>16820790people can change teams
>>16820795your dad can change sexual orientation.
https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1979849575927324684>Long March 5 Y9 rocket successfully transported. The rocket features advanced cryogenic liquid fuel technology. Rocket stands at 63.2 meters tall with impressive specifications.
>>16820804thanks, chinkposter
>>16820798I find this argument unconvincing
14 min to record breaking f9 launch
spacex breaks a new record with every launch
>>16820857Which record?
I still remember when the 3rd flight of a booster was such a big deal, time flies.
Rat spotted.
how do they do it
Another one
Only 3 more launches from this booster to surpass Atlantis (33). After that, 6 more launches and it'll have surpassed Discovery (39) as well, finally beating the entire Space Shuttle fleet.
>>16820866Is this a space station orbiting Europa?
when is next flight
ahem>SpaceX: 523>Rest of the world combined: 0
>>16820893like an hour and 15 minutes from now, from Vandenberg
>>16820284>Luke Leisher screenshotted this and posted in on "Spitter"cringeee. i would consider killing myself in this situation
https://avbrief.com/united-max-hit-by-falling-object-at-36000-feet/
>>16820866gouged out the plug weldswelds are stronger than the base material bros i don't feel so good
>>16820907ELMO is finished. Clown show over guys.
OH NO NO HORIZONTAL STARSHIP BROS??? WHAT ABOUT OUR RETARDED STARSHIP HABITAT IDEA??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHZr6TSyYk
>>16820911its over
>>16820911Why would you lay it down? The living volume is the same in either direction.Also Starship is a rocket not a habitat. You'd rather cut it up and reuse the steel than shoehorn it.But it can be laid down given a cradle and breakover mechanism and sufficient internal pressure as that's how they're gonna be transported to Florida.
>>16820911Yeah, Musk is not a reliable source, so this doesn't mean anything. Sorry not sorry.
>>16820914>((NARRATED))
>>16820919cope lmao. this is his opinion so he's gonna shut down anyone at spacex who wants to do it
>>16820920Tankwatching ASMR
>>16820479>remember the time EDA gave elon the idea that doomed several flights. I memberNo. The ullage gas is still being for RCS on ship V3 and all of the successful V2 ships.Therefore you are misrepresenting the root cause of the failures.
>>16820911Our dome town design was informed by data, and since the beginning we have pushed to bury the Starships vertically. We are committed to delivering you an innovative, scalable living solution
>>16820911>Aug 25, 2020don't worry bros, he might have changed his mind
>>16820934>buryingafraid of a bit of radiation cuck detected. there is no reason at all to bury anything.
>>16820907it was "youths" throwing pebbles down from an overpass bridge
@grok how do you train an Optimus robot to move in 0.3G when they're trained on Earth
>>16820941Humans can do it.Robots would have to be similarly general to be useful enough to bring.Elon is unironically more delusional about AI timelines than Mars colonization timelines
>>16820939kek
>>16820911
>>16820953good news everyone
>>16820953>that disgusting prong to make it look more like the sh*ttle>muh plane soo cooooolkill yourself tonight
>>16820957A shuttle with blackjack and hookers.
>>16820957Make it manlier then, alpha internet poster.
>>16820960see picrel >>16820727
>>16820960
>>16820953Musk will never do this, but he would if he was funny as fuck.
>>16820953>>16820969Needs to send up a woman with an eye missing to complete the package.
>>16820967Nice.
>>16820969In the not-too-distant future, if Starship eventually reaches its price estimates and becomes as cheap as Elon promised, then you know there'll be groups of people buying a rocket and giving it a custom paint job. And you also know that the FAA will have problems with this, impose rules, and future anons will complain on future esefgee, all because they aren't allowed to draw hentai on the walls of the craft.
>>16820986Starship will be cheap because of reuse not because you can buy whole ships for cheap.
>>16820612its sooo cute
Something might have gone wrong with the 2nd stage on the Starlink launch just now? Telemetry seemed to stop updating before planned SECO.
>>16820683they really do make the best test launch videos. nothing else comes close. watching that BO launch a bit back was weird compared.
>>16820753i feel like she's canny tek any moor captin
>>16820866looks like they need a new stargate
>>16820911Yes, actually.
>>16820979ha, my kids just got this book
Why do libtards hate the idea of humans in space but love robots in space?
>>16821003They can't control humans, they can with robots.
>>16820974
eesa is beyond a joke
>>16821006@grok saar please make sex sex video. thank u
>>16821011Indians are the most sacred and divine race of people
>>16820916>Also Starship is a rocket not a habitat.It needs to be though.Going to mars requires at least 6 months.
>>16821010bike lady passes by them on her moon cycle
>>16821032Buzz aldrin’s freaky ahh cycler
LMAO
>>16821035someone post this on X so it can be screenshotted again
>>16821035of all the good posts in this general, these fags always choose the most retarded ones to share
>>16821035who
It's over Faclon 9 is finished
>>16821046true reliability metrics soon
>>16821043Just another twitter account that steals content, this one just happens to steal from /sfg/.
>>16821046>Deployment of 28 @Starlink satellites confirmeddoesn't matter where they deploy, that's not my department
>SpaceX: 524>Rest of the solar system combined: 0it's that easy
>>16821042Of course, need to cherry pick in order to make fun of others
Is LandSpace still a meme?
>>16821053>slightly taller but slightly less powerfuldoes this imply worse mass ratio? how much payload capacity left with rtls first stage?
>>16821035How much money do these niggers earn from our posts?
>another Falcon 9 just failedShitty ass rocket "human rated" my ass
yep another f9 s2 failure.
>>16821053>On 11 September 2024, the Zhuque-3 VTVL-1 test stage completed another successful vertical-takeoff-vertical-landing test at its Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. The test flight lasted about 200 seconds and achieved a maximum height in excess of 10 kilometres. The flight also featured a mid-air engine cutoff test at about 113 seconds after liftoff and an engine reignition test about 40 seconds later when the test stage was at a height of about 4,640 metres; this engine cutoff and reignition sequence during a VTVL attempt represented a first for any Chinese rocket manufacturing entities. During the period when its engine was not in active operation, the test stage employed a cold gas attitude control reaction system in addition to four grid fins to control its gliding descent. The test stage completed its landing sequence at a concrete pad located about 3.2 kilometres away from its launch point; the precise landing spot was 1.7 metres away from the nominal center of the landing pad.More serious than BONG.
AHHHAHAHAHA DOOMERS BTFO>https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1980012611736420483>Two sources indicate the Starlink satellites were successfully deployed.
!https://x.com/transtage05/status/1980012491028480345
Well it was getting a bit boring
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1980012105945231849
>>16821072There was two back to back launches, there might be some confusion hereIf S2 loses telemtry it should automatically terminate after a timeout
at least its only a s2 problem
>>16821072
It appears to have shutoff early, S2 was only a couple seconds from SECO
Here's a thought: maybe S2s of ALL ROCKETS have some inherent problems but most don't fly that often. I mean you're coasting around and relighting engines in the vacuum of space. It's hard.
AHAHAH COMMIES KYS
>>16821084How can igniting your engines in a vacuum be any more difficult than when surrounded by cool air?
>>16821086THIS IS A COVERUPTHE SPACE ENGINEER SAID IT AND HE NEVER GET ITS WRONG
>>16821035rules #1 and #2 faggots
I guess the track nerds will tell us if S2 is deorbited with a burn or not.
>>16821089this isn’t /sci/ even though we are technically on /sci/
>>16821053I guess I'll have to update my 'rest of the world combined' posts...
>>16821046They can make up the difference by squeezing real hard
>>16821080Redudancy? In MY SpaceX?
>>16821084This isn't 1950 anon
>>16821053Why does his head have a counterweight?
STAGE 2 FAILURE COVERUPSTAGE 2 FAILURE COVERUPHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>16821053Ha ha ha, hear that Jeffley? You about to get CHINKED.
Deployed does not mean orbital insertion. It's as if they used a burn duration for a lower inclination.
>>16821105Nah it diverged from the gray path on the stream which means either failure or loss of telemetry
>>16821005in Soviet Russia, Robot is you!
>>16821105>>16821106cope and seethe
>>16821102>>16821090>something from space just struck a united airlines flightwe have our answer
>>16821077/sfg/ - /S2 Failing General/
My sources just told me that Columbia just suffered some sort of debris strike on the leading edge of orbiter's left wing during ascent and they have NOT ruled out the recent starlink failure.
What is S2? I'm out of the loop.
>>16821120Sex 2. See this post explanation >>16821011
>>16821120sneed
>>16821119Not to worry. We have done inspections and can assure you the vehicle will perform nominally during the entirety of its reentry phase. Please proceed with the mission as normal.
>>16821120Splatoon 2
>>16821121Why do I keep swallowing words when posting? It's so embarrassing...
>>16821120discord room for those who got banned from L2. 90% /sfg/ users
>>16821120Saturn II, secret rocket launched after Saturn IB and before Saturn III.
>>16821123>We have done inspectionsReminder that they had access to (more powerful) telescopes that could have had a better look, but didn't want to because what the fuck could they have done in that situation?
>>16821135>what the fuck could they have done in that situation?a million things. this is retconned justification for murderous negligence and extremely cowardly
>you can have 100 launches per year but only 5 of them can be FHWhy are bureaucrats such control freaks? Just say they can have up to 100 per year knowing full well the vast majority will be F9>but what if too many FH-STOP. You are imagining problems that have never manifested.
>>16820909Why don't they just make the whole thing out of weld?
>>16820741The constellation of The Stick. The constellation of The Rock. The constellation of The Other Rock...
>>16821135>what could they have doneAtlantis rescue mission Apollo tier kino>b-but there's no way atlantis could be ready in timeThat's the thing, you don't wait until it's ready. You just GO.
"We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and culture. We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_AhTvYcSYMIf the Abbos had ever figured out how to make Pottery, we'd be on Mars by now.
those little starlinks didn't make it...
>>16821149And now Enron Husk is lying about it to prevent his long overdue imprisonment
>>16821149it's still a success because they got lots of data
>>16821156lol
>Can't listen to voice mail, because they may hear a person who died talking.
>>16821149>those little starlinksStarlink plush when?
>46 (FOURTY SIX) missions/flybys to venus>not 1 (ONE) true colour full disk photo of the planet>not 1 (ONE) true colour photo of the atmospheric limb
>>16821162They're all like 90% white
>>16820974I somehow stopped noticing that she has only one eye. When she had two eyes for an ep she looked the same
>>16821164Everything flying by Venus does it on the outside of its orbitNone of those spacescraft can point their cameras anywhere near Venus for fear of burning their cameras out with sun glare
>>16821164wanna hear a blacker pill? it's been 68 years since humanity first achieved orbit and there's only been 1 (ONE) single artificial gravity test with a tether: Gemini 11 in 1966, producing a total of... 0.00015 g, that's it, never again.
Murriyang, for the 64-metre Parkes radio telescope - In the Wiradjuri Dreaming, Biyaami (Baiame) is a prominent creator spirit and is represented in the sky by the stars which also portray the Orion constellation. Murriyang represents the 'Skyworld' where Biyaami lives. There are many Sticks there.Giyalung Miil, for the 12-metre ASKAP testing antenna - Meaning 'The Stick' this telescope was commissioned in 2008.Giyalung Guluman, for the 18-metre decommissioned antenna - Meaning 'The Other Stick' this antenna had the ability to move along a railway track while observing, and when linked to the main 64-metre antenna became pivotal in early work that determined the size and brightness of radio sources
>>16821162I didn't know redditors were considered indigenous
>>16821176sticc
>>16821164Venus Express has all its data publicly archived. You may be able to construct something from it.https://archives.esac.esa.int/psa/ftp/VENUS-EXPRESS/VMC/VEX-V-VMC-3-RDR-EXT1-V3.0/DATA/
>>16821162>indigenousI thought aboriginals look different, my bad.
>>16821164Here you gohttps://youtu.be/XYtPqgMo5Q4
>>16821176another pill negra: as of 2025, 0 (ZERO) cats have ever made it to orbit, and only 1 achieved a suborbital flight, Félicette from France.
>Numerous monkeys of several species were flown by the U.S. in the 1950s and 1960s. The death rate among these monkeys was very high: about two-thirds of all monkeys launched in the 1940s and 1950s died on missions or soon after landing.Makes those 1960s Monkey in a Space Suit comedies somewhat less amusing.
>>16821187cum ball
>uranus and neptune are the same colo-ACKKKK!!!Wikitroons BTFOThey need to replace the Io image, the Venus image, and the FAKE AS FUCK Neptune image
>On 15 March 2009, during the countdown of the STS-119, a free-tailed bat was seen clinging to the fuel tank. NASA observers believed the bat would fly off once the Shuttle started to launch, but it did not. Upon analyzing the images, a wildlife expert who provided support to the center said it likely had a broken left wing and some problem with its right shoulder or wrist. The animal most likely perished quickly during Discovery's climb into orbit....or perished not so quickly.
>>16820758>who's laughing now?meI'm laughing
>>16820866we're going to need a bigger cock grinder
>>16821201same color
>>16821167It's about a feeling of identity
>>16821198Yeah in the fucking 50s on sounding rockets By the 60s they had very high survival rates
>>16821214>Defending NASA Monkey Murder
>>16821215They're monkeys dude, their lives were spent collecting valuable data. They aren't people.
>>16821142the Dreamtime dust cloudthe constellation of Centrelinkthe Petrol Way...
>>16819402thanksi thought i hated jpl enough
>>16821201isnt uranus brighter because its closer? uranus has a big aura in that pic indicating it has a higher relative exposure to neptune
so F9 was fine after all?
>>16821162Is this like where in America where white people claim being from <insert tribe here> because of the free gibs?
>AI will take us to Mars
>>16821257yeah abos get tons of free shitfunnily enough, the fake abos get so much that real abos get left out kekw
what is the point of posting that here, seriously
>>16821260I dont think the bike lady is gonna show up...
What happened to Starlink 11-19?Things are not adding up. When are we getting TLEs of the satellites?
>>16821201I dunno man, I think Neptune might just be darker
>>16821225t. director of the Artemis project
how come rocket lab is worth more than all of these combined (32B), has space™ really grown that much?
>>16821283
>>16821263Generals are social media vacant lots. Random visitors dump their e-trash in them.
>>16821306https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1980081711338643806
>>16821303bought by retail cattle. it's priced unreasonably
>>16821309>90% of the world's payload massElon 'order of magnitude' Musk does it again
>>16821324And in three or four years it'll probably be 99%
>>16820644Please read the sign.
>>16821330I thought that, too, but I don't know how China will respond. Though, I'm still sure that figure will remain in the range of [90%, 95%]. The remaining will be the chinks, and the rest of world a rounding error.
>>16821309Let me preface this by saying I'm a 1 (cybertruck owner, muskrat through and through):SpaceX is not a space "exploration" company, let alone a space program. it's a space-based isp, com satellite manufacturer, and launch services provider. Where anywhere do they explore space? What interplanetary orbiters or probes have they built and operated? What lunar expeditions have they spearheaded? They won't get out of bed unless there's a NASA contract for it, and then happily reneg on their obligations (dragon xl, falcon heavy extended fairing, falcon vertical launch integration facility, HLS, etc etc). They even pitched Starship for the CLD program and lost, so now Starship station is dead. It's frankly embarrassing that SpaceX hasn't done anything fun since the FH demo with the roadster to Mars orbit**Solar orbit intersecting the orbit of MarsIt's tiresome
>>16821309why is the chart animated?!
>>16821341bumpy trail
>>16821337dyson spheres are retarded. civilizations progress towards greater energy density. no need to strip mercury when there is abundant free energy in the vacuum
>>16820753I mean, if you think about it, gas station pumps have the male side of the fuel pump assembly. Why go against a proven design?
>>16821340it's literally Space Exploration Technologiesthey make manned spacecraftthey're planning to send humans to Marsthey're going to send the largest mission by far to the Moonwhat are your standards for space exploration?I guess no one has explored space according to you
>>16821341Id rather it be a couple pie charts
>>16821339I don't think they can bring the capacity online fast enough to break out of that 1% if Starship gets going at an appreciable cadence in a few years. Maybe after a decade or so. Keep in mind they're still doing Grasshopper-tier testing for reuse, so a true F9 clone is still a good way off. I honestly think China's best bet at the moment would be a zero-reuse Starship-sized rocket that simply leaned on economies of scale. I bet you could get something in that size category built shockingly cheap per unit, especially if they went with fewer/larger/simpler engines.
>>16821341
>>16821340>SpaceX is not a space "exploration" companyTrue, in the conventional sense. So far, SpaceX's philosophy has been, 'build the path so that others can get in', i.e. get to Mars asap, let the rest of the world hitch a ride and land their shit on red soil, while you are only the transportation company. Same logic with deep-space probes. After all, they are a company, they have to earn money somehow to be able to operate. Now, if you are 1 then you should know that Musk will accomplish his lifelong goal of colonizing that barren rock no matter what. So, if/when our society doesn't give two shits about this endeavor (cause, you know, urfers are like that), specially during the early stages, he'll go 'fine, I'll do it myself'.
>>16821353you can. v3 starship fully expended can do <1000$ easily
>>16821348>it's in the name>they're planning>they're going toThat's my point. They've explored fuck all yet they've existed for 23 years. Not even a crumb owned by them was sent to the Moon, Mars, or anywhere to explore anything. The closest to exploring they've done is launch that private mission into polar orbit so a few monkeys can "explore" by looking out the window for a few days. I'm sure SpaceX will get around to it like you say, it's just for their entire existence they haven't done that. They cannot use capital or ability as an excuse for at least the last decade.
>>16821356I agree. Just wish he would do Mars greenhouse on a Falcon in the meantime.
>>16821356Moreover, they are running on a different paradigm compared to what the rest of the industry has been doing for the past 60 years. It's not just launching some probes here and there on decades-long missions, it's the idea of thousands, eventually millions of people working and living out there in space. If you enable such a scenario, then who knows what kind of capabilities we'll achieve as a species. Suddenly mega-engineering projects are possible, and we'll be able to launch lots of mass in all directions, exploring every corner of this solar system. In the long term, this vision is more efficient than just launching probes right now for the sake of it, even though we all love interplanetary missions here.
>>16821361pretty much thismusk is targeting space elevator tier price per kg. we are talking as low as 25$/kg if they can launch v4 for 5m a pop
>>16820133As soon as SpaceX attempts private Mars expeditions on their own dime, the value of the company tanks as private investors will all sell. This is even more true if Starlink gets spun out and goes public like has been teased over the past 5 years. There is no medium term ROI, and it's dubious there is any long term either. They obviously won't fund it by themselves, barring heavy sponsorship from wealthy patrons, orgs, or nation states.
>>16821368they just need to get cost per launch down. we could potentially see a mars mission at, or less than the cost of one expended starship today
>>16821369Well we're currently at an advertised $100k/kg to Moon/Mars. That's better than no price because there is no existing service lol
>>16821368Starlink IPO was only ever on the table as an option for a huge cash infusion to keep Spacex going for about another decade. The feasibility of the service wasn't really established yet and in that kind of situation spinning the company off to fend for itself while taking a huge pile of money was a very sensible option. It's unnecessary and stupid now, because Starlink on its current trajectory can absolutely bankroll Mars.
>>16821377retard
>>16821387I mathed wrong shut up
>just put motors and electronics in the CRYOGENIC tank bro>don't worry about the stress concentration on the inside wall of the tank>btw we are putting all the weight of the booster in these voidsfucking insanity
>>16821397they have to shave off weight otherwise they will never get to that 100T number
>>16821397qrd
>>16821381According to Musk, it will IPO in 2025 or laterhttps://spacenews.com/elon-musk-reportedly-extends-timeline-for-potential-starlink-ipo/
>>16821431The article is from 2022, retard
elon is going to use his immense wealth to set up a foundation before he dies. all the money will go to institutions on mars.
>>16821437Yes
Maybe the first planet outside of our solar system that we land on will be intergalactic.
>>16821432Good job, detective
>>16821437So he's going to die (all Tesla/SpaceX investors will immediately dump their stock now that the king is dead) which triggers and automatic dump of Elons SpaceX stock (price drops even further) and somehow SpaceX will be able to function after they have no capital and no Elon pushing them harder. SpaceX dies when Elon dies. Boeing 2.0
>>16821457he can start it long before he dies like bill gates did
zamn...
>>16821470
>>16821470>>16821471Mr. President, I implore you to invoke the DPA and fire every single Boeing and Lockheed C-suite executive on national security grounds.
Did you know that Elon Musk slept together with his father in the same bed until he was 12?
askers?
>>16821477If you want to invoke DPA, you should use it to fire all the Indians from Microsoft for the sheer disastrous incompetence and absolute disloyalty to the American people that they've infected a critical national security asset (Microsoft) with.
>>16821482Sun microsystems was the original sinner here, they literally invented the java jeet. Microsoft just copied them and any serious mission critical systems will run hardened Linux.
>>16821445Unlikely and that's pathetic if it turned out to be the case.
>>16821484They're still using those retards to run datacenters for the government. The Jeets need to go.
>>16821368Starship is absolutely not fragile. That chunky bitch can handle situations that melts everything lesser.
>>16821470>>16821471>remove the biggest player in the market but keep other launches constant over decadesDon't think that's how it works
>>16821519thats how it was before SpaceX came to the scene basically
>>16821457>SpaceX investors will immediately dump their stock I don't doubt Musk dying would be a problem but Spacex is not publicly traded.
>>16819309you're either a kid or too dumb irlany competent engineer with half the wits to tackle technical problems has been and should be interested in how different teams do engineering
>>16819309I'm interested in chinese space activity.
>>16819399I've always wanted to ride the trans siberian railway but being able to just drive from my home to anywhere in eurasia would be fantastic.
there better be something hype today
>>16821616grokipedia 0.1 is dropping today
>>16821358Thing about SpaceX is, it only exists for the purpose of going to Mars. At first Musk just wanted to send some little greenhouse there, but then during that episode where he tried buying a rocket, he realized how expensive they are. Then he's like fuck it, let's make our own rocket for cheaper, and then it's ballooned into what it is now. But all of it is still just a side hustle for funding the actual goal, so that Musk can fly off to die on Mars or whatever weird shit he wants to do. Starlink funds Starship R&D, and then Starship starts flying bigger Starlinks, so that they can afford to lug shit to Mars. I don't think he cares about space exploration, unless it involves walking around on another planet
>>16821608It's a 70 mile long undersea tunnel. There's zero chance you'd be able to drive through it.
For beltalowda tho
https://x.com/ApoStructura/status/1980231834639401030>SpaceX has launched more since the first Falcon 1 in 2006 than the rest of the US (including NASA) has since 1997.>Starship is so ambitious that it’s easy to forget how much Falcon 9 has achieved. 130+ launches this year alone.
>>16821624How often do "mission" companies stick to their mission? (instead of giving up and focusing on profit)
>>16821646cringe name (and worldbuilding) desu
>>16821649Musk gets most of his money from Tesla, he doesn't need spacex at all. Same about Blue Origin for Bezos actually.The problem can start only if Musk dies or if tesla goes bankrupt.
That time musk called the president a pedo and then threatened to take spacex offline
>>16821663thats not what happened
>>16821673In 2025 it counts as true, it doesn't need to be 100% true but need to have some truth behind it.
>>16821670they should be focused on building starship v6
>>16821654Pinche sabaka inyalowda
>>16821689they haven't stolen those plans yet
https://x.com/SecDuffyNASA/status/1980257227760955637
>>16821701https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1980268686805020893
>>16821340gotta start somewhere. seems like they are building a solid launch platform and using it to then create businesses that will fund the exploration to come. dont really see the problem. even their contracts with nasa for HLS etc are all aimed in the same direction.
>>16821563Private investors can dump private stock
>>16821703why do think we wont get people on the moon? we're very close.
>>16821703It's obvious that they want to pocket some money.
>>16821701It's kinda funny that the owner of the company making the moon lander probably doesn't really even care about the moon. People freaking out that they need to beat China to the moon, meanwhile the lander company is trying to get to Mars
>>16821707Because that's not the mission objective: >>16820669
need more money for dem programmes
>>16821701Why not land on Phobos instead?
She's right you know
>>16820775>>16820778I've asked several times if Starshield piggybacks off of Starlink. Never got a good answer, assuming yes for sure.
>>16821701>>16821703Im not sure if NASA has the authoritative power to DEMAND a contract change, but I could maybe see a situation where it’s 2028/2029 and HLS is close but still nowhere near ready yet–and China is deemed too close to a 2030/2031 landing. They could just ask SX to do a one-off lander for Artemis III.Two year deadline, put a dragon capsule pressure vessel atop a LM-like hypergolic landing bus. Just needs to get two astros on the lunar surface for a day or less. It would be shitty but it could be done. $1 billion contract, NASA is here to help any way we can. This is a national priority plz get it done elon, we have all NASA facilities ready at your disposal to get this through the door
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1980261998475743537>Static fire of Zhuque-3 Y1 done>Orbital launch and first stage recovery coming up soon
https://x.com/AusSpaceAgency/status/1980153185525547438>The Australian Space Agency is working alongside local authorities in relation to the suspected space debris discovered in the Pilbara region of Western Australia. The debris is likely a propellant tank or pressure vessel from a space launch vehicle.https://x.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/1979931238623318418>An object resembling space debris, specifically a COPV (Composite-Overwrapped Pressure Vessel) was recovered in Australia yesterday. I think it is likely from a Chinese Jielong-3 upper stage, nr 61237, 2024-173L. The ground-track passes close to the findspot.
When I said BO would land on the moon before SpaceX you all laughed. Gradually it's becoming more obvious.
>>16821703>>16821708>>16821719It seems NASA’s internal estimates point at a “nu LM” costing in the range of $20 billion (lol) just for low lunar orbit (even higher for NRHO capabilities which it would need because Orion is only going to NRHO), and that would be a 2-yr cost plus contract so bet on it being way more
>>16821719Not happening. Elon doesn't allow distractions
>>16821720>>16821721isn't this thing methalox? why is the plume so orange?
>>16821729Super Heavy is just as orange on the pad.It's the water suppression droplets in the plume
>>16821727>low lunar orbitPlease bro. Anyone have an estimate for many refuelings this would cut for HLS? I guess it's substantial
>>16821727Where you hearing this?
>>16821733https://x.com/robotbeat/status/1980272344397422803
>>16821718they are separate satellites, probably based on the starlink bus and so onand they are owned and operated by the US government I'm pretty sureSpaceX designs, builds and launches them but after that I don't think they have much to do with them (other than probably support if its needed I guess)
>>16821735Heres the pdf she's getting it from.https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20170008820/downloads/20170008820.pdf
>>16821738>2017
https://x.com/SecDuffyNASA/status/1980243865400701369
>>16821727I am strawmanning a bit here but it makes me angry that there are no doubt Senators out there who unironically think this whole SpaceX and Blue Origin lunar landing thing is a distraction, and that the real answer is some lucrative $50 billion contract spread across all 50 states for a fuckass pod that will be no better than China’s Lanyue lander. And they don’t even care if China gets there first. This line of thinking is treason
>>16821726I'll believe it when BOner does in-space refueling of a non-mockup lander
>>16821743It's literally all boomers. Even Zubrin himself can't help but advocate against Starship HLS
>>16821720the way the camera moved at the beginning
>>16821646the end of this scene is the best part
>>16821725so its war then?
>>16821701>other great American companies
so we're just going to use HLS to go from LEO to the moon right?
>>16821719>This is a national priority plz get it done elonThis would sound so embarrassing lol. Supposedly a race between two superpowers, but then the whole thing hinges on one company that is trying to colonize another planet and the moon is just a distraction for them
>>16821701>>16821703>compete for contract>lose because you suck>sue>winWhy even bother with the competition then? What next, is Alpaca gonna come back to life as a surprise third option off the top rope, holding a folding chair?
>>16821670Is it time for the Chinese State to admit private industry > state owned enterprise?
>>16821726>>16821744Getting New Glenn flight rate up will be the bottleneck
>>16821755Deng Xiaoping calling, he says he already did that. They won’t explicitly admit it, but yes
https://x.com/SecDuffyNASA/status/1980283706444316998
>>16821759>""focuses"">first time in more than 50 yearsI guess that's one way to put it
>>16821754Why does it matter? It's about who can do it first.Should the taxpayer be spending on losers?
Will this NASA strategy be funded by Congress?
>>16821759Where is this country called "Bitcoin"?
>>16821740very based. may the winners win
>>16821725>not posting the video
>>16821726I'm still laughing. I look forward to more chuckles at your expense in the future.
>>16821762I mean it might be coming from congress itself, senators etc wanting to protect jobs in their districts so the same oldthe last grift hurrah before Starship goes online and demolishes everything
>>16821761>Why does it matter?I don't support corporate welfare.>Should the taxpayer be spending on losers?No, so why does Blue Origin get to make a HLS at our expense?>It's about who can do it first.Buy a lander off the chinks, then.
>>16821757Literally the only milestone they're close to reaching
One good thing with this "opening Artemis 3 for competition"-thing might be that Musk starts pushing SpaceX harder, so we get to see more launches earlier
>>16821770>the only milestone they're close to reachingThey have launched once???
>>16821769Blue Origin has been contracted for HLS already. This is just seeing if they can make it for Artemis 3
>>16821772Exactly.
>>16821771It's strictly good. This is real competition not competing about who can make the best plan but who can actually execute
>>16821777its unknown what this actually is yet
>>16821768Cool, sacex vs BO vs China spacerace will be kino
>>16821774They should open it up to Boeing. And free my nigga Doug Loverro from prison!
>>16821689The BF-20 engine is not ready yet
>>16821774>Blue Origin has been contracted for HLS already.Yeah, and that's stupid since they couldn't win the contract when competing. They don't deserve to be contracted for HLS, as their bid was shit. Not quite as shit as Dynetics of course, but close."Redundancy" is a lie and everybody knows it.
>>16821755SOEs and private industry are complementary. There is no reason for CASC to focus on reusables when there are 10+ other companies doing it. CASC should focus on doing what the other companies aren't, i.e., they should focus on ramping up production of medium/large rocket designs that are already mature and flying, as well as develop moon rockets. CASC can work on reusables to the extent it does not interfere with the mature rockets and moon rockets. Still, the LM12A and LM10A are not far away.
>>16821785You need to fund two providers because otherwise you're going to have a monopoly and the taxpayer is going to get fleeced on future moon mission contracts
>>16821381It makes no sense to spin off Starlink without also spinning off the launcher on which it depends for its competitive advantage
>>16821790Your alternative to fleecing the taxpayer involves throwing away money on non-viable pork projects
>>16821787Except they've made some questionable choices developing a bunch of medium lift rockets when they should just be doing things that private industry won't do (large rockets, novel propulsion and materials etc).
>>16821787yeah, like NASA should be focusing on nuclear or some other stuff instead of SLSmaybe Starship shocks the system enough to do that
>>16821790how convenient, weird that this logic wasn't used when ULA was the sole provider
>>16821794starlink competitive advantage is that it actually existsif/when a competitor shows up, maybe other things can be discussed
>>16821795What's non-viable or porkish about BO's HLS? It was the second best offer that American industry could muster.There's likely going to be a lot of manned moon landings in the 30s and 40s in order to one-up whatever the Chinese do, so it's going to very important that there will be competition for those contracts
>>16821801>What's non-viable or porkish about BO's HLS?see chart>>16821754
>>16821797What China's private industry won't do is scale up production of medium/large rockets based on mature tech in the near term, and that is because China's private industry does not yet have any mature medium/large rocket tech to scale up production of.CASC has the YF-100-based lineup.
>>16821798NASA is a contracting agency. I agree that they should not be micromanaging their contractors as was the case with SLS, but they absolutely should be contracting.
>>16821799Indeed. The ULA monopoly was a disaster for the US; luckily it didn't last.
>>16821800Any investor who can pony up the money buy Starlink can be expected to have the mental capacity of considering the future further than just a few years out
>>16821805should they? they should do novel research and buy services
>>16821803I don't see what's nonviable or porkish in that chart, except the bit about the "currently impossible" communications links which I don't know the details of.Besides, that was the 2021 contracting round in which all three bidders participated. BO significantly changed things for the 2023 contracting round.
>>16821812>buy servicesThe contract should be structured in whatever form makes the most sense for the specific task at hand, whether that means buying services or buying hardware
>>16821797If not for those medium lift rockets, China would right now not have any rockets suitable for an initial Qianfan/Guowang deployment
>>16821801>put one (1) rocket into orbit>fail your recovery attempt>congratulations, you're now qualified to put humans on the moonare you retarded?
>>16821826but enough about the Saturn V
>>16821827There was a recovery attempt for the Saturn V?
>>16821800Starlink wouldn't exist without Falcon 9
>>16821826As of 2023, BO had done a lot of late-stage testing of advanced rocket engines and launched reusable glorified sounding rockets; they were not engineering noobs.
>>16821785
>>16821836Brutal
So we can expect SLS and Orion’s roles to also be opened to competition. R- right??
>>16821774Even entertaining the idea that they might be able to is laughable
>>16821842>>16821826you're seething. blue is gonna deliver.
>>16821841Pork must flow
>>16821845The only thing bezos has learned to deliver over the last 20 years is amazon parcels
>>16821841SLS Orion can't make it to LLO so yes?
Jeff lost
>>16821827Apollo 4 recovered the command module
>>16821853pretty cool rocket. landspace is the best of the chinese startups
>>16821853>LandspaceWell, which is it? Land? Or space?
>>16821853why do chinamen write ontheir rockets in english?
>>16821857It’s both—and it’s objectively a WAY better name than “blue origin”
>>16821845>1 partial failure orbital launch in 25 yearshow many centuries do they need to get to the moon?
>>16821856They were founded relatively early (in 2015), and they're relatively well funded
>>16821857Technically, it's "Blue Arrow Aerospace Technology Co.," but I think whoever is in charge of transliterating the names of Chinese spaceflight companies isn't literate in either Chinese or English, or just hates the people they work for.
>>16821859Total Anglo DominationFrom the seas to the heavens
>>16821865blue arrow is completely different company.
>>16821859No, but that is actually a good question. Even the nips do it. Why? For Japan I kinda get it but since when did China care about western outreach? Surely it would make more of an impact if they showed off their shiny new resuable rocket with Chinese text.
>>16821857>>16821859"Land" is just a transliteration of 蓝 (lan, blue). The Chinese name is blue arrow/rocket aeronautics space technology
>>16821867>蓝箭航天空间科技股份有限公司>Blue Arrow Aerospace Technology Co., Ltd.
>>16821859Obviously, they will write the company's English name "LANDSPACE" in big Latin letters so that potential international customers who watch the launch footage will know who to call if they want to place an order. The rocket name is written in Chinese characters (朱雀) and pinyin (ZQ-3) in smaller letters
>>16821859It’s the de-facto language for global capitalist business shit, plus their history of places like hong kong speaking it fluently. It’s become the second language of China and most business men speak it as part of higher education. Even with their quasi-isolation and firewall, English still brings opportunity and is used both formally and informally for logos and advertising simply because it’s just what you do in China with big business. Anglos won.
>>16821873>>16821872Also, educated people in China, especially those in technical fields, and rich people who can afford to frequently travel overseas speak English. It's a prestige language and associated with education.
>>16821831they used to fish some stages out of the ocean. thats how they got the video footage of state separation
it's quiet today... nothing major going on
>>16821871>>16821872but there's no land in space...
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1980318686725677162>Blue Origin has never delivered a payload to orbit, let alone the Moon
I will commission the first orbital amusement park. It will be called Spaceland
>>16821894Blue Origin has won $7 billion dollar in contract from NASA/DoD without having delivered a single payload to orbit.'Mainly due to affirmative action.
>>16821886asked and answeredmove on
