How is it to operate daily on a sub-130 IQ? I'm genuinely curious.
>>16820717You'll never know because sub-130-IQs lack self-awareness.
>>16820724id say at 120 g you can be self aware which is around 100 FSIQ
>>16820731Nuh uh. Sub-130-IQ "self-awareness" consists purely of telling oneself made up stories and rationalizations about some "I" character.
retard herei have trouble opening doors sometimes
>>16820731>>16820734I guess I should point out that the sub-130-IQ's "I" character is effectively >140 IQ regardless of objective testing (or lack thereof). Only other people can be sub-130-IQs in that play.
>ameriflagThe joke writes itself.
>>16820734nopehave you ever seen a real cognitive profile anon?
>>16820801>a real cognitive profileSounds like a concept invoked in midwit fields like psychology. ;^(What I have seen is that the overwhelming majority of people, especially wannabe-intellectuals, live in a state of perpetual dissonance where their actions and behaviors never match their self-image and stated motives even when they're doing their best to be sincere or to analyze themselves.
>>16820734lol but that's exactly what the "self" is, merely a story that has no reality
>>16820809Proof of this meaningless jeet statement?
>>16820806i never studied psychology as my main subject im a polymath autodidact its a side thing like philosophy average fsiq is 82 take that in for whites
>>16820717Extraordinarily frustrating. I have ADHD and my cognitive profile is really lopsided compared to regular peoples', but in my experience my working memory is so bad that it makes me feel disabled on a daily basis. Even when I grasp a concept relatively easily I forget basic, simple information merely as a result of not encoding it into my memory. It's like trying to hold a glass of water as you walk but someone constantly bumps your elbow and pushes you so you need to go back to the start to refill the glass.
>>16820717I'm 115-120 iq. I come from a vastly retarded third world society where I was considered a genius. I went to an western european country and I was constantly embarrassed and a few times humiliated by others. I was used to running laps around people and adjusted myself and my character to cope with that as to not be an insufferable faggot, because you can still use a 90/100 iq person to get shit done, and even assist you with mental tasks. Once I was there, I noticed that people caught on with my schemes, however playful and well intentioned they might be, rather quickly. Especially the kids and teens were leaps and bounds faster than the kids from my countrySo to answer the main questions: it depends on the enviroment.
>>16820717confusing, from what I can gather
I think people in that range, do more and think less. They delegate thinking to authority figures accepted by the consensus of their social circle. If their social circle says something is bad, they accept it without thinking. It's a comfy area because everyone else is like you and there's less chance of miscommunication and a general feeling of belonging somewhere compared to the 145+ who feel like they belong nowhere and are genuinely desperate to share ideas with others. It's the corporate sweet spot of middle management. Smart enough to understand office politics and keep your job, but not enough to exploit everyone around you for the top executive spots.
>>16822543The delegation is simple, people have a good sense for who is right most often(hard to predict but easy to prove after the fact is very normal for a question). If you're intelligent you will have a pretty good world model which lets you predict certain things as long as you have data. They will ask you about stuff and think it's odd how you always think about it, like "how do you know what to think about?" almost, women tend to do that for some reason. But find some big brained friends too - you'll get really close with them if you don't have them already.
90 IQ here. We're very aware we're retarded, that's the problem. We don't have the bliss of being truly retarded and don't have the luckshittery if being born a gifted kid. Fuckoff and leave us alone.
>>16820717The majority of this stems from the same reason that (you) don't go to the gym. Retards don't want to engage in intellectual exercises in front of some grad student with a clipboard, and the grad student wouldn't want to attempt with his noodle arms to do push ups in front of Lamarcus the cell block retard if he was taping it and looking nonplussed. Its embarrassing, so they don't put much effort in, in much the same way the grad student would do a couple push ups, laugh, make a self deprecating comment, and return to their seat. For some reason its a near universal preference to think that their ability is some innate aristocratic inheritances vs the result of accumulated effort, but that isn't the case.
>>16822557this, the whole trope of idiots being unaware of their affliction is so baffling frustrating to endure. imagine going up to a guy with no feet struggling to drag himself across the floor>hey man do you know how fucking bad you are at walking? you know I can run if I want to??
>>16822577the gains from education/training are marginal anyway - something on the order of 7-8 points and the effect doesn't last much past the end-date of whatever dumbass-uplifting program you're runningwe know this because it has been tried many times with niggersability is innate, indeed, you're just too much of a commie to admit it
134. that was tested in hs, probably dropped by now though lmao.what can i say? i got a high paying online job in an interesting field despite no schooling. i've never come across some problem i couldn't eventually solve. i'm a big hermit and occasionally manic. i dunno, i can't imagine my day to day life would be all that different if my iq were lower except maybe worse job performance (or even worse, additional time spent in school)
>>16822605>the whole trope of idiots being unaware of their affliction is so baffling frustrating to endureIt's baffling to you because you're an idiot not aware of his affliction. Naturally, you think the fault lies with people saying things you don't understand.
>>16822658telling a dumb person directly that "you are dumb, a smart person wouldn't struggle with this" as if they don't realize it is not ambiguous in any way. It's just cruel and mean and uncalled for.
>>16822666But you don't actually think you're dumb. You're think you're being clever.
>>16822670No, im not. All i did was reply to someone else complaining about his IQ and shared his sentiment. I dont know if I worded something wrong or whatever but I'm being 100% sincere about my life experience and how I've been treated in the past. There wasn't any double meaning or whatever.
>>16822673Alright. Sorry. I just fail to see why people would treat you badly if you don't go out of your way to engage with matters that you know are beyond your competence.
>>16822677>go out of your way to engage with matters that you know are beyond your competence.try being born to successful, high IQ parents/siblings and proceed to let them down academically for 20 odd years. they will make sure you know you're dumb lol
>>16822690I see. So are you actually dumb or did you just "let them down academically"? >inb4 it's the same thing because my family treats me like it is
>>16822617>self determination>effort and hard work matter more>"COMMIE!"Are you sure you're not one of those sub 100s anon? Because I'm fairly sure you are.
>>16820717I am retarded. I have never been tested but I would guess my IQ to be maybe 95 something. Life is not fun. I struggle with basic self care tasks like housing and finances. Anything beyond middle school level maths and I do the expression Limmy pulls in that ton of feathers vs ton of steel sketch.
>i am le high IQ because I can understand basic conditional hypotheticals and timeis this how midwits cope with being mediocre? you are not special.
how is it to "operate" with sub 180 iQ?
>>16820734"I" dig this because "I" don't even like using the word very much. It's just a bit unselfaware. When shit got really fucked and I had to develop a defiant voice in my head to stand up for myself I had to start saying I and for real when bad stuff happens you lose self awareness. Idc how people see me like I do but I'm covered in paint. So, "I'm" mad about it and I'll tell you about it but if you think I care that you are judging my attitude no idc literally fuck you of fuck I cursed at you sorry cunt
>>16824458though my point actually is that people with low iqs find themselves in situations even more often in which they are unable to make any measurable difference and have to just become the chip on their shoulder whether they are right or wrong. The lies they tell themselves are absolutely the only thing keeping them going just like the truth keeps me going
>>16824428not good you try to befriend the 140s and they sabotage you
>>16822605in our defense the whole world is ruined by you guys being the majority
It's pretty bad. It's called upper midwit hell for a reason.
>>16824512This pic is dumb, an unbelievable amount of people are deficient in several key vitamins and amino acids. That’s what’s holding them back.
>>16820717It’s terribleBeing able to retain and manipulate information in your head is a hallmark of intelligence and creativity, but my brain can hardly do it so I feel like I’m genuinely disabled half the time I’m awake
this thread is full of idiots who think they're smart, i can almost guarantee nobody else has done a real life iq test by professionals here.
>>16824463blame women for not selecting intelligence over looks
>>16824679>if i just take vitamins i'll be smarter bro trust
>>16822605it's not the true idiots who are being told off here. it's the midwits who are smarter than average, and yet stupid enough to overestimate their intelligence creating all sorts of problems in society
>>16826356white college educated middle class
130ish IQ, went to top 5 school for stem. Now I'm a contractor.Spatial visualization is a good proxy for IQ.I watched a fairly experience carpenter (white man) struggle to swap the direction a door swung (in vs out) because they couldn't figure out the symmetry of the hinges.They told me we need new hinges after about 30 minutes of trying things. I told them to take the pin out and flip them upside down and they still thought it wouldn't work. I had to show them twice before they figured out the third hinge.I've seen septic installation debacles because the tank was moved in the wrong direction to buy more pitch in the wrong section of pipe. Like measured the elevations and distances, calculated the pitches, remembered the code, and then just magnified the problem.Interesting job to study IQ distributions. People's brains can do a certain number of spatial abstractions, but you add one extra layer of complexity, and they'll do the last step catastrophically wrong.
>>16826446>Spatial visualization is a good proxy for IQ.It's usually the highest g loading portion of IQ tests but I think it ends up underestimating neurodivergent's actual g
>>16824679Too bad it's irreversible.
>>16820717I used alcohol to decrease my IQ because life was too much. Now I just want to die.
>>16820717He's talking to prison inmates who don't give a fuck. Hardly a good sample. Try giving them a honey-bun if they get the right answer next time.
>>16826446Technically these are just instances of a bag of tricks. Allbeit they are such a simple level that I am finding it difficult to put it into words. The primitive of visualization is finding a focus and a pivot. This has been discussed on here before. Think of the game spin the bottle, imagine it because you have never played it you based kissless wizard.What does that bottle look like when it spins?Now, use some kind of marker. Like a triangle pointing at the bottle. And link the bottle to the triangle such that the bottle orientation is anchored to it. Now when the market traverses a circle the bottle follows smoothly.There are functions you "write" to the visualization that you can change at your leisure.
>>16826527or maybe they really are that stupid anon
>>16823199nta but there's nothing contraditory in those. Commies made a big fuss about effort and hard work and how every challenge can be overcome by those, while denying inborn potential, so much so as to pretty much ban genetics research in the Soviet Union.
blissful.
>>16820724less iq doenst mean less self-awareness perse
>>16827438sadly, it does
>>16820932>noticed that people caught on with my schemes, however playful and well intentioned they might beElaborate on your 'schemes'
>>16827445don't agree with this one
>>16827485>third world>inflated sense of intellect>moved to west>constantly humiliated >highly manipulative>chronic liardo you really have to ask? think your typical indian style schemes. braggadociously attempting to elevate himself in a social hierarchy by both inflating his own worth and deflating others. an example of such a scheme might be trying to coerce a kid to give away his toys.
>>16827493Retard I wanted to see him do it again here
>>16822557>Fuckoff and leave us alone.IQtards are dead set on inflating their egos. I wish they would just shut up.
>>16820717it's bad, I think about killing myself every day, distract myself with maladaptive daydreaming pretty often, music and short form content fills the space in between sparse thoughts, i don't really have any friends or interests, all I've got are hobbies ill never be good enough at, it's frustrating, I hate being like this
>>16827493>>16827500The first one isn't wrong, but he still underestimates me. I didn't get embarassed all the time, I'm not a 24/7 asshole and most of my friends are from the first world anyways. Also, that's not to say first world nations don't operate on the same level, where someone is always someone else's bitch. In my shithole I just humiliated people all the time, either by outsmarting them or physically abusing them. They always came back, at times I didn't even had to do anything else. But as I grew older I learned that it's better to swindle them and remain neutral. That being said, as far as honor goes, I never did it to anyone that didn't deserve it or couldn't handle it. I didn't fuck with actual retards or autists, as in, actual autists. Not just obsessed weeaboos. A lot of it has to do with vocabulary, being confident about what you're saying, and absorbing a wikipedia's article worth of information. Of course, this won't work on an actual masters/specialists, so you got to pick your battles. But firsties catch on quick, and the excitement vanishes. If I had no momentum, whatever I was planning would rarely work because I didn't have any real substance to my claims.
>>16820932Is the third world really that bad? Once when talking to an Indian physics PhD student, she asked me how to calculate positions on a 2D image based on pixel grid sizes and pixel numbers. I'm not sure if she genuinely couldn't figure it out herself or if she was doing that woman thing where they intentionally ask a dumb question so you can explain it to them.
>>16822557this. the "failed" gifted kid subreddits are topkek. Wahhhh people expected things of me I got special treatment and free scholarships voted valedictorian and put down everyone around but I'm a victim of being to smart so I do drugs when mommy and daddy aren't home wahhhhh
>>16824679Which ones?
>>16820717That image is such a flash back to the couple of years I literally had to deal with Lumpenproles every fucking day. Literally retarded animals who's first reaction is basically aggression to any basic shit that confuses them.>>16820931Yep, higher IQ (From nonsense tests I've done 110-120) but very bad ADHD really fucks me up. I've got fantastic abstract thinking and reasoning skills, but anything memory related will basically oblitorate me. I also get that terrible shit of basically being a deer like headlights in test situations or when put on the spot because the ADHD decides to focus on literally everything else. I once sat through an exam, didn't fill out a single answer, yet I knew all of them, just in the moment I couldn't think.Annoys me HF Autism is treated as some super disabiliting disorder when they basically have a "Masters degree level minimum cheat code", meanwhile, those of us with ADHD are basically doomed yet ADHD is considered the "fake" disorder.
>>16828479Yes, but it varies. I don't live in a very polluted place so I could have been dumber despite being born as a higher IQ individual, and I think that's exactly why Indians and Pakis are so mediocre mentally and physically despite their population. When you're a thirdie, public or even private schooling does everything they can to make you as retarded and compliant to even more retarded people as possible. My parents were both smarter than average, and at the beginning I went to a school dedicated to developing intelligence, but we had to move and I was sent to a shithole school where if you showed any traits of intellectualism you would get relentlessly bullied and teachers were even worse than students in that aspect.Niggers in that aspect are correct, the hood does in fact take you under
>>16820717If you actually had a 130+ IQ, you'd be smart enough to figure it out.Retard.
