Adjusted for population, Jews have earned nearly 6,000 times more Nobel Prizes in the sciences and economics than Muslims.
>>168211071. category mistake. jews are an ethnicity as well as a religion. is the definition used in the chart ethnic jews or religious jews?2. im sure nepotism has nothing to do with it.3. see the average IQ in israel
>>16821126There are no religious scientists by definition
>>16821107The nobel prize is a worthless medal that means nothing.
>>16821133It actually means that you made the biggest scientific discovery of that year but ok
>>16821130science is a method. it says nothing about the questions that religion answers
>>16821136a worthless pursuit. achievements speak for themselves, they dont need medals awarded by a jewish committee
>>16821107can you include what fraction of each are pedophiles in the graph?
>>16821144Science is a means to gain knowledge via gathering evidence, faith by definition means to believe in something without evidence. They are mutually exclusive.
>>16821130>>16821150>There are no sexually active masturbators because having sex by definition means you're not masturbating, it's mutually exclusive.retard of the thread award
>>16821150my point is that religion answers questions outside of the domain of science. mere fact-gathering (which is what science is) will never get you an answer to the question: "why are we here?" or "how should we structure society?". sure you can cope by ignoring that question entirely or making up your own based on feelings, but many people rely on religion to answer those questions, for better or worse
>>16821107I'd like to know how they define Muslim in this context , purely national populations of muslim countries? Muslim countries are incredibly prone to brain drain due to western destabilization. Even putting that aside, most muslim countries don't invest in their science programs that strongly -- there are brilliant people over there as well, but just lack of funding , opportunity, and politics/nepotism matter.
>>16821172>I'd like to know how they define Muslim in this context , purely national populations of muslim countries?ignore that , actually clicked on the graph this time
>>16821107Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent race. They also have an average IQ of ~107-110. "Muslims" are somewhat varied, but in terms of people range from ~75 average IQ (Ethiopians) to ~90 (Turks). Significantly less intelligent than Ashkenazi Jews.I say this as someone who dislikes Jews and is strongly aware of their destructive and parasitic tendencies.
>>16821136No, it means some random swede has chosen to give you a stupid medal. Its has no value on its own.
>>16821161False equivalence >>16821165There’s no evidence that science can’t answer them
>>16821270True equivalence
>>16821290Prove it if it’s true
>>16821107genes
>>16821298no u
>>16821302There are the same genetic group Arabs are semites thoughly
>>16821270>There’s no evidence that science can’t answer themwell until science 100% explains everything religion is valid. Stop being a reddit materialist
>>16821320No, as stated earlier faith requires lack of evidence. I guess schizophrenics and the ramblings of the lobotomized are 100% valid in your eyes as well since there is no functional difference between a religionfag and an insane person hearing voices.
>>16821308They're best described as an intermediate population between Arabs and Europeans. Ashkenazi Jews in particular are closer to Italians than to most Arab populations.Also, they lived in relative isolation in Europe with little gene flow for the better part of 1000 years.IQ is highly heritable, and even in Israel Ashkenazi Jews outperform other Jewish groups academically. So it's almost certainly genetic.
>>16821130There are only religious scientist, the scientific method was originated and developed by Christians as a subset of Christianity. Being a Christian a prerequisite to being a legitimate scientist. Atheists are incapable of doing honest scientists because atheists do not feel obligated to lead their lives honestly.
>>16821390The scientific method was developed by Ancient Greek pederasts and atheists. Their works were rediscovered in the late Middle Ages/Renaissance. This discovery combined with astronomical advances which were made solely to get better data for astrology led to modern science. The idea that this was a Christian endeavour was a myth developed during the Cold War by Anglos and is now being maintained by Zionists. That both of these groups also happen to be pederasts and atheists is a happy accident.
>>16821390>the scientific method was originated and developed by Christians as a subset of Christianity.by galileo, and while he was a christian the method had nothing to do with christianity
>>16821270I'm an atheist but you can logically prove that science can't answer all questions. Science gathers (at least models of) the truth about the natural world, ie "is" statements. But you cannot derive an "ought" statement from "is" statements alone. Therefore science cannot answer questions such as "Ought we to value liberty over security?". Science can provide information to provide context to various moral questions (eg abortion), but any answer must also derive from philosophy.
>>16821461>Ought we to value liberty over security?You do realize this can easily be answered by science by running experiments where liberty is valued more than security and vice versa and observing the results, dumbass.
>>16821133Only valid for peace
>>16821150you must have face in induction if you want to predict something based on evidencescience is based on that faith
>>16821390Congratulations, you somehow came up with an even dumber take than the person you were responding to
The best scientists were upper class germanic europeans and it's not even close.
>There are no religious scientists by definitionCredit where it's due, it's good bait.Christianity invented modern science in its current incarnation, with the intention of explaining how god's creations worked so that we could better take advantage of god's gifts.Both the Galileo and the "you have to be a Christian to be a scientist" posters are fucking idiotic, though the latter's probably also bait. Galileo designed this method because he was getting funded by the damn church to do it, and the church was also very happy with his heliocentric model up until the mob started banging on the door, demanding them to stop blaspheming.
>>16821147It's already included.
>>16821503Ignores and/or assumes too many variables.
>>16821503>You do realize this can easily be answered by science by running experiments where liberty is valued more than security and vice versa and observing the resultsFiltered. Even if you could devise a test with objective results that aren't down to interpretation (you can't), in and of itself it wouldn't tell you anything about what people "ought" to do.
>>16821130Shit you’re right! (Apart from the thousands of religious scientists throughout history and the present)
>>16821596>Galileo designed this method because he was getting funded by the damn church to do it, and the church was also very happy with his heliocentric model uWhat does that have to do with christianity? Why cant you just take the model for what it is without bringing your soap opera with it?
>>16821807>>Galileo designed this method because he was getting funded by the damn church to do it>But what does that have to do with christianity???
>>16821809Yes, what does that have to do with christianity?If a christian priest buys a thing, the thing is now christian?
>>16821814>X happens as a deliberate result of the Christian Church but what does X have to do with Christianity
>>16821818Sorry but if some priest buys some groceries that doesnt make them into christian groceries, if a priest buys a car that doesnt make it a christian car. You keep saying that some money payment makes a thing christiann and refuse to elaborate because you can't. You are simply hoping for your flimsy associations to stick.
>>16821503The results wouldn't mean anything in and of themselves. It would still be up to interpretation and philosophical debate to derive meaning and whatever appropriate actions we should take based on those results.
>>16821818Other anon is right, it's like a millionaire taking credit for a masterpiece painting because he commissioned (financed) it. The artist and his work is independent of that and stands on its own.
>>16821821>>16821825Here's a hypothetical scenario:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.
>>16821829>as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsIn this case it would only be because of money. What effort and philosophy are involved?
>>16821830>some drivel about moneyThat's not a coherent answer. Try again:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.
>>16821829You're taking it way too far. You can follow that chain of reasoning to give credit to anything and everything that makes any action possible. Galileo was going to study the cosmos regardless of the church or not. You might as well give his mom's pussy credit too.
>>16821835Here's a hypothetical scenario:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.Number of times your botfarm failed at this basic task: 2
>>16821832>some drivel about moneyThis is from you. You claim X is christian because a christian paid for it. Theres no christian efforts or philosophy involved
>>16821843Here's a hypothetical scenario:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.Number of times your botfarm failed at this basic task: 3
A lot of Muslims are inbred
>>16821844>of Y's philosophy and effortsAnd this would be what? What effort? What philosophy?
>>16821851Here's a hypothetical scenario:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.Number of times your botfarm failed at this basic task: 4. Notice how the botfarm literally cannot complete this task because the context window says it did eat breakfast.
>>16821854Galileo's heliocentric model was created as a direct result of him being born which itself is a direct result of his mom's twat accepting his Father's seed based on the vagibal philosophy that "sperm = good". Therefore Galli's mom's puss deserves the credit.
>>16821849so are a lot of jews...
>>16821829>>16821832>>16821840>>16821844>>16821854This monologue is much more botlike than whatever it's replying to.
>>16821874Here's a hypothetical scenario:>X happens as a deliberate result of Y's philosophy and effortsDemonstrate basic sentience by explaining what X has to do with Y.Number of times your botfarm failed at this basic task: 5. Notice how the botfarm literally cannot complete this task because the context window says it did eat breakfast.
>>16821875Yeah but inbred Jews are at least smart
>what does that have to do with ChristianityThink about it. A Catholic, hired by the Catholic state, was tasked with the goal of creating a reliable method of understanding God's will. This is at time where Catholicism was so powerful as a belief that it would create a lens to observe everything in the world with itself.This is like saying that just because an American came up with 4chan doesn't mean that it has any connection to American culture. If you can't see the connection, then you blind.
>>16821946Sorry but not convincing. A russian invented helicopters but that doesnt mean helicopters are related to russian culture
>>16821107nobody in modern day has won a noble prize
>>16821412>The scientific method was developed by Ancient Greek pederasts and atheists. Looool what a retard
>>16822183atheists don't believe in fundamental honesty, that means that when they come upon a fact that disagrees with their atheist ideology they will just deny it or ignore it. so when an atheist encounters the inconvenient reality that the scientific method is of Christian origin and that science is a subset of Christianity, they will just ignore it or dismiss it by lying.this is also why atheists can't do science.
>>16821107Genetics and greater wealth explains some of it, but a major factor is Jews generally being more culturally accepting of, and interested in, STEM fields like a lot of Asians, as compared to Muslims. When I was in an extracurricular /sci/ program in HS, it was almost all Whites/Jews/Asians/Indians with only a few token Blacks/Hispanics/Muslims, even though the community it served was far more diverse.A lot fewer people in the Muslim world grow up aspiring to do STEM shit as opposed to other shit, even when they have the occasional person smart enough to win a STEM Nobel Prize, shrimple as.>>16821944>Yeah but inbred Jews are at least smartThere is at least one genetic condition where this has been verified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_dystonia#Research
>>16822204>science is a subset of ChristianityHIV is also a subset of Christianity, wouldn't exist without gay Christian missionaries who commuted back and forth from central Africa for no reason.
>>16822210That's a Greek and atheist invention actually sorry chief
>>16822215Yeah all the Greeks and atheists who went into the fucking Congo lol dumb faggot.
>>16822215Atheists will always lie about the inherently Christian origins and nature of science because the atheists wish to dishonestly claim it as their own.
>>16821136No, they quite regularly give it to some random diversity hire instead of the people who actually made the discovery like with the crispr broads because its a popularity contest not a scientific discovery contest.
>>16821150>Step 1. Make a HypothesisNope that is faith based and no amount of evidence can prove your hypothesis is actual knowledge, you just have to keep collecting evidence until you lose faith in your hypothesis.
>>16821165>mere fact-gathering (which is what science is)No, only evidence can be gathered and evidence gathering is only one step of the method.
>>16821270>There’s no evidence that science can’t answer themIncompletenessUndefineabilityUncertaintyDiagonalityAll well established postulates with strong evidence of high mathematical rigor and scientific standards backing their various claims that no single system can answer every question or represent every value.
>>16821321>faith requires lack of evidenceNo it doesn't, people generally have faith because things are passed down through generations and written in old books their family has access to and because the scientific evidence doesn't actually align with their personal experiences/empirical evidence, not because there is a complete lack of evidence.
>>16821809Christianity/Catholics also heavily funded big pharma, are you going to blame all the faults of the modern pharma-industrial complex and the drug culture on christians too?
>>16821825So the Sistine Chapel has nothing to do with Christianity because it was only funded by a church?
>>16821840>Water pools because a beaver built a dam, therefore beavers invented water.That is your reasoning.
>>16821882>>16823788
>>16822257Speaking of lying, how many libraries did you people have to burn down before christians were the first traceable ancestors to most modern philosophy?
The catholic church had and still has a lot of money because they owned a lot of land, including urban land thats now worth trillions. Of course they will fund most things as they are the money.
>>16821107they stole a fuck ton from the Muslims claimed they invented then bombed the fuck out of those countries for the past century making sure nothing good ever come out of that region except for radical extremists.
Science noticeably stopped around the 80s, smaller transistor isnt new science. Its been declining since 1870. Today they give awards for graphene and climate
It’s the Ashkenazi PHENOTYPE
