>>16823450

>die
>time passes
>you awake since at some distant point in the future the exact same configuration of molecules that made up who you are is going to reappear again
>to you it will appear like no time passed at all.
>even if a universe resets

Once a human mind activates it is active forever.

>>16823454
>Once a human mind activates it is active forever.
That sounds to me like wishful thinking. People like you have a weird desire for immortality for some reason, which is fine if it helps you cope with the horror I guess.

So many people have nearly died and come back and describe it as a bliss realm.
Rarely, people describe first a really awful experience and *then* a bliss realm.
My theory is, everything is fundamentally made out of timeless photons, including the conciousness inhabiting your body. Body dies, ur conciousness go light realm, get to be w all your family and friends whove passed on, and everybody will be happy.
Ive nearly died and come back several times. Be kind to each other.

>>16823469
>Ive nearly died and come back several times.
Same here when I tried to kms but I didn't experience anything at all, it just felt like a dreamless sleep to me unfortunately

>>16823457
I don't desire it since IF some sort of weird immortality like that works you can end up stick in some Jaunt-like situation that drives you insane.

>>16823484
Several experiences I had
>got strangled
>everything went to black
>as i woke up, felt like everything in reality was "regenerating" and spiralling out from a point from inside me
>od on nyquil and other stuff i cant remember
>infintesimal split second of absolute nothing, like a pop
>car accident, walked out without a scratch
Ive never left my body yet, as some NDEs describe.
>>16823485
Ive gone insane so many times. Im glad I have my family. Sometimes feel like Im god, but if I was, there would be no suffering. I am hopeful that once my body is completely gone, Ill be someplace very good. Life is...hard to describe in words. Ive experienced moments of pure joy and bliss, and moments of absolute nightmarish terror. Somehow I am not dead...

This thread sucks.

>>16823547
Like your mom?

>>16823533
>>infintesimal split second of absolute nothing, like a pop
ridiculous, how do you "experience" nothing? from your point of view it would be one seamless transition to another.

>>16823571
Entirely different. My Mom sucks, but this thread just sucks.

>>16823457
> People like you have a weird desire for immortality for some reason
lol, what is "weird" about it? would you refuse a 100 more years of life? 1,000? why not extend it to eternity while you're at it, then?

>>16823590
It's weird to me because I don't like life, and I don't understand how some people do.

>>16823586
Yeah it was like a blip, a snap. Hard to describe.

There is a problem, that we have as a species, we can only describe qualia w words. There are subjective experiences that words do not accurrately convey. I cant mind meld to show you my subjective experience. U wouldnt want that anyway. Language is not sufficient to describe reality. This is a fundamental problem w philosophy and religion. Enjoy life my friends. It will be ok. Love u all. :')

>>16823599
I have essentially, read everything I can about philosophy, religion, occult, science, politics, history. I have read hundreds of books. There is a fundamental problem: language. does. not. describe. reality. Thus there will always be room for disagreement. Enjoy life, be kind to yourselves and others. Have...fun.

>>16823602
I have experienced pure bliss. I have experienced pure terror. Nearly died several times. Prayed and begged for death. I am perhaps insane. I have had so much compassion that it hurt. I am...tired...I will rest.

>>16823606
Oh btw...do. Not. Smoke. Thc. Just dont.

>>16823450
Our brains perceived patterns and relationships between them to create a model of our experience that we can use to navigate the world. We are part of that model that our brains try to understand. So yea, maybe

>>16823469
>timeless photons
Photons aren't timeless, they constantly at c which is measured in m/s which explicitly relies on space over time to have a coherent definition, so time is baked into the definition of c which is baked into the definition of photon, c can not be removed from the experience of time and photons can not be removed from the concept of moving at c.
If they always move at the same speed, though, you can make a case they are forceless since force is the same thing as a change in speed.

>>16823533
>Ive gone insane so many times
>Several experiences I had
You should have led with the fact that you are just insane and all your experiences are the result of your insanity.

>>16823469
>Rarely, people describe first a really awful experience and *then* a bliss realm.
Sounds like DMT experiences

>>16823602
So you aren't actually describing anything real with that statement?

imagine you're a photon
you blast out from a star and spend 14 billion years travelling across the cosmos without experiencing time only to get scattered off the atmosphere and land on my taint

>>16823829
>without experiencing time
They couldn't be traveling across the cosmos at a constant rate of c m/s if they weren't experiencing time.
>>16823736

>>16823450
you non exist every time you’re askeep

>>16823454
>>you awake since at some distant point in the future the exact same configuration of molecules that made up who you are is going to reappear again
I often have this thought and it makes me wanna believe in reincarnation. At one point I was even thinking to put something somewhere as a check point throughout eternity. This seemed very difficult. Then there's question of memory and is it really transferred so I can use the checkpoint successfully. The chances of memory transferral is very minimal, still I haven't given up on putting checkpoint yet. Still pondering when how and where to put it.

>>16823824
We can only describe an approximation of reality using language. Words mean different things depending on context. The words "Heaven" and "hell" mean different things to different people. And mere words alone cannot fully convey the experience of being human. There are subjective mental states that we cannot precisely describe to each other w words. Thus there is always some uncertainty.
Regardless, I choose to be kind to people, to the extent possible. I cannot please everyones notions of perfect behavior.
>must go here or punish
>must be vegan
>must surrender whole life to god
>must do this ritual, pray a certain way
Eventually, pleasing everyone elses notions of what is right and wrong becomes a heavy burden and I just make my own choices, and hope life improves.

>>16824154
There is also so much in this world I could worry about and fear:
>sickness
>severe poverty
>senseless violence
>catastrophic disasters

Ive experienced such things.
But to focus the mind on worst case scenarios just drives you crazy. Cant prepare for every possible worst case scenario.

>>16824159
I have survived some of the worst events possible somehow. I wouldnt call myself "lucky". By some bizarre miracle I am alive and posting this.

>>16823838
>They couldn't be traveling across the cosmos at a constant rate of c m/s if they weren't experiencing time.
From your perspective no, but from their perspective?

>>16824154
So you aren't actually describing anything real with that statement either because you might actually mean something entirely different than than the language you are using to say it?

>>16823598
It's not about liking anything. You disliking life does not mean this is all you'll be forced to experience no matter how much wishful thinking you have for an eternal nothing

>>16823454
how horrific...

>>16824162
light travels at the same velocity FROM ALL FRAMES OF REFERENCE, INCLUDING THAT OF LIGHT, you mong

>>16824162
You specifically said that they (not me) were the ones traveling at c, so my perspective is irrelevant to their experience.