Welcome to the Club - editionprevious >>16844014
>>16846794m*sk xissies could never
eager the boomer HATES it when the crowd screams
>>16846789only took the rest of the world 10 years
>>16846789I hope Blue can keep up the pace.If Spacex finally has real competition I am so excited.
>>16846805$RKLB sweep soon nigga
>>16846809lol
>>16846809Yes Mr. Beck, your rockets are very nice, we'll put them up on the fridge where everybody can look at them
Fukken great news to come home to
>>16846812you can't check your phone on break?
post more anime rocket girls pls
>>16846816If you insist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJ5myya1t0Atlas V / ViaSat-3 F2 T-59:00
Who's ready for more VALVES
>>16846789>BO launch perfect>twitter barely working>tesla batteries being recalledwhat happened, Elon bros?
>>16846736>account is literally "FloridaSaltyman"fitting kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Glenn#Planned_launches>January 2026>Will carry a prototype Blue Moon Mark 1 lander, planned to make a landing on the Moon.So, with the successful booster landing, are they actually on track for this?
>>16846829>blue origin beating spacex on both reaching the moon and mars firstelon and many here might unironically rope
how many spacex engineers are getting fired tonight?
>>16846829Seven weeks should be plenty of time to get GS-1 checked over and ready for another flight, and even if it's not there booster #3 that already deep into production and could be ready by then. It really depends on how far along Blue Moon is, and we've seen a lot less of that then their launch hardware.
>>16846833What I'd give to be a fly on the wall listening to those super important meetings at SpaceX. I can already picture Elon screaming at the top of his lungs and asking why things aren't going faster lol
There's so much attempted shit-stirring because of this success. Why? By who?
>>16846829Honestly, the odds are higher than some think
>>16846840Elon had a lead, and it's shrinking incredibly fastHe's already alluded to the magic trick he's going to need to perform to keep people thinking he's on top
>>16846840low effort trolling by eds victims
>>16846818so why are her shoes brown? anyone know why they did Nuglin like that?
>>16846844Jeff has "caught up" to where Musk was if you ignore starship which is at a more advanced stage than new glenn
>>16846844>and it's shrinking incredibly fastAh yes, Elon's 10 year lead is shrinking ever so quickly!In another 10 years Blue Origin will debut their Starship competitor, and then Elon's goose really will be cooked for good!
>>16846801It was gross, a bunch of screeching zoomers. Act like you've been there before.
>>16846850>is at a more advanced stage than new glenn
>>16846844>it's shrinking incredibly fastYou are delusional, do you really think landing one single booster after more than 10 years of development makes this statement anywhere true? SpaceX is out there making an interplanetary ship the size of the fucking ISS, while Blue has just found out that reusability is a thing. And no, the carnival ride doesn't count, they wasted so much effort on that dead end.
>>16846819L-10:00, go-no go poll begins at L-7:00
So SpaceX is officially worthless now, right? Bezos is smoking them.
>>16846855>Interplanetary>With only 80 refueling trips neededLol.
>>16846868>dat pitch up maneuverL TWRs?
>>16846844you are retardedBO: 2 orbital flights, 21 tons to orbitSpaceX: 577 orbital flights, > 6000 tons to orbitalso, SpaceX does more launches in a week than Jeff does in a year, so the lead keeps getting bigger
>>16846840probably X tourists
>>16846850Starship has never made an orbit, lol.
>>16846873>Company that has been around longer did more flightsWhoa...
>>16846876you are actually retardedBlue Origin (founded 2000) has only two orbital flightsSpaceX (founded 2002) has 577 orbital flights
>>16846836>saaar i am very sorry developer promise to make heat tile much stronger next time. ticket closed
>>16846844>He's already alluded to the magic trick he's going to need to performThe one where he was talking about needing to 8x the value of a completely different company? That allusion? Faggot?
ITT: seething
>>16846809Neutron is dead before it ever reached the launch pad. Never bet against Bezos.
>>16846876Blue Origin has existed for a year and a half longer than Spacex
>>16846876based retard
>>16846873For as impressive as it is, New Glenn only lifts 2.5 Falcon 9's worth of payload. Kinda puts things in perspective.
>>16845664>>16845666>A second option would be to rely solely on SpaceX hardware.>[...]>This solution, however, would likely be viewed as toxic by NASA’s safety community due to the need to refuel in lunar orbit with crew on board.SpaceX is already supposed to do an uncrewed landing test with another HLS first, right? Couldn't they refuel the first HLS in lunar orbit before the crewed landing, then transfer the crew to it for the return trip?
whoa, sparky!
I'm really happy about this. Why? Because I still see a lot of weird space talk where people go like those Elon Musk rockets are a scam, or something like that. I just want to see what happens to those discussions now that a second company is doing the same thing
>>16846894Ariane is the prettiest, by far.
the earth is flat you faggots. and rockets are fake. we've never been to the moon, and never will.
NASA made the right choice to reopen the Artemis contracts.
>>16846898>the earth is flat you faggots. and rockets are fake. we've never been to the moon, and never will.
>>16846897Ariane 5 that is. I don't think they ever made an updated girl for Ariane 6. Also need a saucy loli for Vega, and a crusty baba with a cig hanging off her lips for Soyuz-ST.
>>16846888yeah, they need like 70 NG launches per year just to match Falcon 9that will probably be in the 2030s
>>16846904also, pretty clearly Falcon 9's flight rate will increase in the meantime and Starship will be fully operational by then
>the earth is flat you faggots. and rockets are fake. we've never been to the moon, and never will.
>>16846896It's mostly the same response as always, but toned down because Bezos isn't the main target and nobody knows what a 'Blue Origin' is. You know, your typical 'fix Earth first' and 'billionaires playing spaceman while African children go hungry'. Of course, these very same people don't have a problem at all when Hollywood or FIFA are the ones spending billions of dollars that could've gone towards solving world hunger or whatever.
>>16846894enjoy your forced retirement bitch
Leo is a gay name for space internet, really really gay
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1989170399796400183>Main engine cutoff 1, or MECO 1, is confirmed for the Centaur upper stage. The Atlas V rocket has reached a preliminary parking orbit with the ViaSat-3 F2 payload. The rocket will coast for about 10 minutes before ignition of the next launch burn, which occurs at a guidance-calculated start time north of the equator.
>>16846896half of those "SpaceX is a scam" people are shills for every other space company than SpaceX doe(see thunderf00t and CSS)
>>16846789IT'S SO FUCKING OVER FOR SPACE SEX
what is he thinking right now?
>>16846919>Why the fuck did I call the President a pedophile on Twitter?
>>16846903>Ariane 5 that is.Yup. In fact, I also think that she's the most popular one, too. I've seen lots of fanart of her out there. Maybe sloppa anon could be useful here, instead of obsessing with bikes like a mentally ill person.
>>16846909Some comments I've seen just now>this actually works unlike Musk's shit rockets>this one's not blowing up taxpayer moneyI don't know why I even pay attention to that stuff
>>16846921If he has another melty, we'll lose Isaacman. But then again, I kinda wouldn't want to be in Isaacman's position right now since my legacy will be tied to Mr pedo no matter what I do
>>16846919https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMCx7RmOb0w
>>16846922>THE HEAVY LAUNCHERI'm not fat!
I don't see why SX would really care much about this, or have a melty or whatever. How many flights do they even do for customers per year, like five? And two of those are to the ISS
>>16846927>fatThey weren't talking about her waist.
>>16846928>How many flights do they even do for customers per year, like five?More than that; Payload counts 45 in 2024:https://payloadspace.com/estimating-spacexs-2024-revenue/
>>16846919>I should've gone with 12m in diameter.
>>16846928So far in 2025 they've done 34 payload launches for external customers, 2 cargo dragon launches, 2 commercial crew rotations, and 2 non-NASA crew flights. The rest is all starlink launches
It's not like Musk didn't expect this. He only gets angry at something unexpected and so far everything is going as planned, expect maybe with Tesla.
so... what now?
>>16846919>I should've gone with 120m in diameter.
>>16846945Didn't he say on record several times that the next version of Starship would be 18 meters in diameter? lol, that would be insane
>>16846944It's back to Falcon 9 launches for a while, and most of those are Starlinks. There's an Electron launching on Sunday and a Long March 8A going up next Wednesday, along with another Transporter launch. The next real noteworthy launches are the Vulcan GPS launch sometime later this month and Korean thing that's trying to launch from Brazil next Saturday.
>>16846944>America has 2 rockets that can land>America has 1 rocket that can be caughtAmerica is winning hard. In terms of SpaceX v BO, Falcon 9 is still the work horse and will continue to be for the next 2-3 years. In which time, Starship will completely overshadow Falcon 9.
>>16846948the Korean one is interesting: chasing the dream of an orbital LOX-paraffin hybrid rocket. It is hard enough to make a sounding rocket with this fuel, I'm curious how they are scaling it up for their first stage. It is hard to maintain the integrity of the fuel grain as it gets larger.
>new glenn just sent something to mars>starship hasn't put anything into orbit yetkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>16846957they'll also have to overcome the curse of Alcantara. No successes and many deaths.
>>16846789>Not using the video in the opOneDamnedJob
https://x.com/wulei2020/status/1989182389516709900>The journey home has begun for the Shenzhou 20 crew. The Shenzhou-21 spacecraft successfully undocked from the Tiangong Space Station at 11:14 am Beijing Time on November 14. Astronauts Chen Dong, Chen Zhongrui, and Wang Jie are now coming back to Earth.
>>16846946yeah, it's going to be crazythink 1,000 to 1,500 ton payloads in one launch
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1989180501622681729>...and CMSEO now reports what was the specific problem on Shenzhou 20: they found small cracks on the side hatch window of SZ-20's descent module that they determine to be consistent with an orbital debris colliding on it. Shenzhou 20 will stay in orbit for more testing.
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1989174782550782059>The twins are talking! We have successfully established contact with both ESCAPADE spacecraft, Blue and Gold. We're on our way to Mars to enable NASA and UC Berkley Space Sciences Laboratory to study the Martian magnetosphere!
>>16846789>Falcon 9 launched more often than New GlennIs the the new "Starship newer made it to orbit"
https://x.com/Rethik_D/status/1989046964265316559>First Updated look into the VOM (Venus Orbiter Mission) of ISRO. A well detailed position of antenna ,solar panels and payloads compared to previous renders. I'm not 100% sure ,is it a Reentry probe on the top ?
>>16846946Never going to happen. It's structurally impossible and would need completely new propulsion system. It's just musk selling the hype.
>>16846946>>1684696415*4=60 tons payload""INSANE"" SissyX rocket
>>16846976The jig is up Elon! Despite creating the biggest and most successful rocket company in history this anon CLEARLY knows more than you. Honestly Elon should surrender control of Spacex and give it to (You).
>>16846976>It's structurally impossiblesource?
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1989187016584753257>Just in: CMSA announces that Shenzhou-21 spacecraft, carrying Shenzhou-20 astronauts, has departed the China Space Station at 03:14UTC. Landing planned around 08:30UTC. The agency also disclosed that micro cracks were found in Shenzhou-20's porthole, deeming it unsafe for re-entry. But Shenzhou-20 will not be disposed of soon. It will instead stay docked with the space station as an experiment platform.
>>16846818This whore needs my cock
>>16846984Structurally unstable, that is, with the current engine setup. Let's not even talk about rocket propulsion at such a width. This is obvious to any engineer.
>>16846946*grunt*
>>16846833I work for Musk company. People are literally crying, they can't believe they lost to Bezos. Nobody and I mean NOBODY saw this in their bingo card
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Jacklyn is actually pretty big
>>16846801as always, telling it like it is
>>16846993how did they lose? NG isn't competing with starship and it isn't likely to take too much market share from F9 either. in terms of capability they're not even at F9 levels because the thing doesn't suicide burn, it can hover.
>>16846870Unironically fewer refueling flights than Blue Moon needs
>>16846976You can fix 254 Raptors under a 18m diameter hull. That's ~460MN of liftoff thrust without any further improvements to engine performance and a max GLOW of 36,000 tons. You could fit 36Mt of methalox into a 18x136m cylinder which isn't unreasonable as a ballpark estimate for total height. With 254 engines you can probably save some mass by ditching engine gimbaling all together and just using the world's most complicated differential thrust system. It's absurd, but so were a lot of the big post-Saturn designs. This isn't unworkable with the current state of technology that SpaceX has. If they do peruse it though, Elon will probably push for the Raptor 4/5/etc with 300tf of thrust each, and things will be even more absurd. But you wouldn't need a new engine.
>>16846999yo mama is pretty big
>>16846990Engineers are retards
>>16846870>refuellingif Elon truly wanted to make life interplanetary he'd buy Australia and turn it into an Orion launchpad (which is what God created it for)
>>16846990"GI Joe Soul Brother rocket too beaucoup!"Proposed rocket designs have gotten into that diameter range. And don't forget that's Orion nuke size too.
>>16847011>mid 20th century SSTO designsdid any of them even pass the ballpark napkin math test?
>>16847006And it's not as if they can't make bigger engines to reduce the number required.
So New Glenn is lying about their payload capacity right? That's why they keep launching cubesats? I wonder how much mass they lost from that hover. Explosive welding legs to the ship doesn't seem rapidly reusable
>>16847006I feel like they could afford to make the nozzle bigger
>>16847012If you make the tank walls as thin as tin foil, maybe
>>16847012Sure. Philip Bond was not a hump.
Remember where you were when SpaceX died
>>16846999that's way further off center than the landing looked
why does /sfg/ hate spacex now
>>16847023Shot in the dark, but bants/trolling from some very hyped feeling Blue Origin guys.
Slue Frigin General
>>16847022That's Google Maps satellite imagery from months ago
ULA is dead
"So anyway, I says to Mabel, I says..."
>>16847023this happens like once a year let them have this
>>16847023ironic shitposting
>>16847023I post anime girls to bait the closet pedosI post Krystal to bait the closet furriesI post Tf00t to bait the SpaceX chudsI post Boing to bait the new space virginsI post Titan to trigger the Encels
>>16847023Ironic posters + some reddit tourist retards
>>16846996>Failed to send email, please try again later.
>>16847053I just signed in through Discord so I can't help there. It will probably get sorted out soon enough, though.
>>16847053>We have been rate limited by Mailgun once again for sign-up verification emails, please hold
>>16847068spiiiiiin
>people are paying hundreds to thousands of pounds for an early access game engine demoThis is Star Citizen all over again
Uh, is Space planning two launches to lift off at exactly the same time later today?
>>16846853Yed, they have already landed and reused the booster multiple times on starship
>>16847089gotta stage up BONG somehow, why not
>>16847089gov shutdown caused FAA to restrict launches to nighttime. SpaceX is just stacking launches at the start of the window for some reason.
>>16846996I aint clicking that shit nigga
>>16847081its just KSP2 2.0
>>16847090If it can't do the job than booster reuse is a moot point
>>16847104they could have launched it into orbit like 5 times if they wanted to, how difficult is this to understand?getting to orbit is not difficult, resuing the booster is not difficult (for SpaceX)reusing the second stage is what is difficult and BO isn't going to try it with New Glenn for years if ever
>>16847108>5 times>blew up twice
>>16847108>w-we could have though!kek kek kek
>>16847108Second stage reuse is a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyzTWsGqRzY>Is Massey's Almost Ready? | Starbase Flyover Update 106
>>16846789>miles per hour>feetfinally, a real american rocket company. feels good man
>>16847120based jeff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ZLhZk7yTw>"New Glenn Launched. Oh Starbase Still Exists!" | SpaceX Starbase
>>16847133>already rusting
>>16847135it's over, I'm Team Blue now
>>16847120>americucks still cucking to the British imperial system
>>16847141we won by the way
>>16847081>>16846996Just play Kerbal.>B-but it doesn't have all my sexual fetishesMod it then. The cargo-culting around KSP is getting cringe. Why can't people accept that videogames are like movies. The oldies are classic, and the reboots are garbage.
are there any rocket games that have pretty good station simulations? i want to build a station that has to be refilled with oxygen and food and whatever
>>16847144So did we, just in different wars
>>16847147I wonder too, the closest thing I can think of is KSP with the Kerbalism mod. its adds some insane realism like radiation (based on belts around planets), food and oxygen for your kerbals, parts having a chance to fail and degrading over use. even psychological aspects for the kerbals.appart from that surviving mars and KSP
>>16847151*meant to say FTL
>>16847151does kerbal space program let you see the inside of your station? that would sell me
>>16846876oh okay so you're just baiting got it
>>16847155there is internal view and there is a mod that lets you do an IVA and walk between modules.
>>16847159thanks
>we have real competition in space noware launch prices finally going to fall?
>>16846801You think he says this because he's a SpaceX fan, but really he says this because he's a rocketlab investor
>>16847166BO needs to have cadence or it doesn't matter and even then, enough cadence to actually start serving something else than Kuiper/Leoso I would say its a start but no, not going to affect the prices in the next few years
>>16847166No, they are paying more for New Glenn because they dont like Elon Musk
>>16846996Wow, I don't have enough VRAM to run this.
>>16846945120m diameter, 9m height
you know, it looks like starship
>Shenzhou-21 safely landed at about 08:40 UTC
>>16847280Land capsule impacts look so rough
he left nsf to join astroforge? lol>AstroForge is an aerospace company based in Huntington Beach, California. The company is working on developing asteroid mining technologies, aiming to become the first commercial entity to do so.
>>16846996UI is complete ass and pretty much unplayable for now. Performance is about as bad as KSP2 or heavily modded, end game KSP. Honestly not a great start, too much focus on visual fluff only to end up as uglier modded KSP, and it's still nowhere near being an actual game. Decent enough to prove it's not vaporware and to raise funds I guess, but I expect this thing to take many more years
>>16847280was this the capsule they thought suffered orbital debris damage?
>>16847297no thats shenzhou 20
I've been busy nice to see spehs progressing smoothly.
>>16847285FFS this is exactly why KSP2 flopped so hard. All the focus on graphics over performance, stability, and gameplay features. Not only from the devs but also from the people who claim they want a "real" KSP successor. If they can pull it off then I'll take a proper look. But my default stance is that this will just end up getting cancelled like 99% of fan projects.
>>16847306those rusty baseduzs probably still work
I had no idea someone built the Nausicaa Valley Of The Wind flying wing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXUuExL8Cac
>>16847309It's much easier making graphics look pretty than actually making a game.
https://x.com/davill/status/1989308520236524022
>>16847321It's over for SpaceX
>>16847321>explosive welding
Is BO only planning earning money from launch contracts? Amazon money is not exactly = BO money.
https://x.com/ENNEPS/status/1989269868450107629>Welcome home Shenzhou-20! After 204 days in earth orbit, and a few days after the Shenzhou-21 crew arrived to the Tiangong space station, Taikonauts Chen Dong, Chen Zhongrui, and Wang Ji landed safely back on earth, after a change of return capsule, due to space debris.
>>16847325Maybe? I doubt bezos cares cause amazon money is his money. They certainly haven't announced anything in house yet.
>>16847325>"if you build it, they will come"
>>16846996>pre-alpha releaseWhy the fuck would I play this shit even if it is free?>>16847285Yeah I'll wait until a beta or 1.0 (if they ever actually happen)
>>16847325The lion does not concern himself with “profit”
>>16847325BO is unsustainable, its still a hobby project for a very rich man, and would collapse overnight without a sugar daddy to pay the bills for what essentially is a failure of an organizationA clown is in charge, but its a very wealthy clown indeed, so nobody can complainLong term, Blue Origin is already fucked. They have some infrastructure but thats about it. "Leo" is not theirs, but I guess they will get awarded all future launch contracts for it, because everyone else is either obsolete or an enemy. Hard to imagine any future except to lose money until Bezos' death and the bimbo sells it off for pennies on the dollar to do something stupid like the other wife did
At which idiot index reusable rockets become a meme? Elon Musk fans should know.
>>16847014Don't they replace the legs on Falcon 9 every launch, BO could just be planning to do the same thing and just take the legs off
Waiting for the Thunderfoot BO debunk video
>>16847331The question then if BO only exists to make Amazon richer?
>>16847344Explosive anchors are kind of brilliant. They are cheap, lightweight, reliable, effective, and should swap out easily as an insert in the leg shoe, with a only few hours labor. Its not a large item for refurb, and I guess the ship deck will need a weld repair as well every time. I think we are all fine with a few small single use items, thats not something to get excited about. These parts are very small in comparison
>>16847348What? Hardly. Even if BO was cash-positive sometime in the next 15 years it would be like adding a drop of water to the oceanBO only exists because Bezos has been telling himself it’s the next great thing to look cool doing and it’s how he wants to spend his retirement. But he’s not smart enough to figure out how to do anything useful. New shepard operates at a loss. New glenn won’t be making money either
Unpopular opinion: Cost effectiveness won't be the bottleneck in future for tons to orbit but permits and infrastructure. On that regard expendable rockets are superior to reusable rockets. In a post scarcity economy, expendable rockets will be the best choice.
>>16847355“Post-scarcity” as a concept is a made up fairytale spun by the bolsheviks for bedtime stories
>>16847355The world isn't that starved for space. You'd have to choke reusable rockets with transparently heinous regulations that serve no other purpose to make that happen.
>>16847285UI isnt going to change I reckon
>>16847355>expensive and inefficient rockets become more economical when I use magic to make economics obsolete
we need to get more countries involved in space. we're dangerously reliant on america and chian.
>>16847325Amazon is paying them $10BUS Gov is paying them ~$6-7BI'm sure others will pay too, but right now, all their flights are booked for the next 3-5 years probably.
>>16847328Only 1 (one) (一) parachute?
>>16847367Who is we, nigga. There’s just usa and japan everyone else is irrelevant
brodkin digging up old biased news to drag elon with
>>16847362Nah no way it won't get remade at some point, it's clearly there just for gameplay/engine tests. I assume they'll eventually copy KSP2's UI + KSP1 context menus
>>16847367>we're dangerously reliant on america and chian.Are we Russia?
>>16847299This is the Shenzhou-20 crew who ended up coming back on the Shen-21 vehicle instead of their Shen-20, which reportedly has a crack in the window
>>16847306Is it illegal to powerwash and clean up your brutalist concrete in commieblock countries?
>>16847367Don't worry, we yuropoors will be fully reusable by the 2100s, you just wait!
I get the history side of things and why English has valid use cases across China but it’s still interesting to me nonetheless how a completely indigenous Chinese program flying Chinese hardware still uses Latin characters. Shenzhou isn’t seeing any global economic / international uses, why not just make the “SZ-21” patch in chinese characters? Is english just the defacto language of Earth at this point?
An Atlas V launched last night too? What?
>>16847321cute
>>16847399Heh
>>16847387have you seen how hard it is to write chinese characters?
>>16847370It's got the same arrangement as Soyuz; one big main chute with a backup
>>16847020
>>16847405But with a solar sail I hope, so it does two jobs
>>16846801It was obnoxiousI want to hear the rocket launch not the stupid commentator bitch or the OVERLY LOUD CHEERING CROWD DROWNING OUT ALL OTHER AUDIOSpaceX' audio levels are better tuned + they don't use retarded units like feet to show their altitude on stream
>>16846875It was like what 10m/s off?Pretty much orbit
>>16846875BO has only reached orbit twice in over 20 years.
So do you keep that first landed booster as a big museum keepsake, or do you chuck it right back at the launchpad for the blue moon demo launch next year and risk losing it on another landing attempt
>>16847339isn't that for individual components, not whole things like rocketsat least that is the context I've seen it used
>>16847423In the stream the females said they will launch it again.
blue is what you get when you combine spacex innovation with nasa overcaution
>>16847367China is based
>>16847355that doesn't make any sensereusable rockets don't need much if any extra infrastructure, at least with respect to exclusion areas and so ona simple launch pad and launch tower vs launch tower with catching ability are basically the same area, the latter is just more complex to build and operateor what infrastructure are you talking about here?you need a smaller factory to build fully reusable systems that can be used over and over again compared to a factory for expendable systems if you want the same mass to orbityou will also need much less raw materials overallyou might need more propellant, but that isn't really significant from infrastructure standpointa small pipe vs a slightly larger diameter pipe for natural gas, who caresonsite fractional distillation for oxygen, or a slightly bigger system, again who caresyou might be confusing the infrastructure needs of massive amounts of mass to orbit that SpaceX is going for here and somehow confuse that as being strictly necessary for Starship (and a fully reusable system), comparing it to something like ULA launching twice a yearbut thats not the correct comparison, you would have to compare building one starship a day to building something like 5 or 10 starships a day or whatever and 100 more boosters
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1989266061678776608
>>16847433>reusable rockets don't need much if any extra infrastructureSee pad 1 vs pad 2 in starbase.
>>16846946>Didn't Musk saySo its never going to happen.
>>16847420Two more times than Starship.
chances of new glenn actually launching orion?
Uhhhhh can New Glen not do direct-injection to Mars?Escapade are still near Earth and aren’t going to Mars for another year lol
>>16847443Never Tell Me the Odds
https://x.com/WLR_2678/status/1989186468405977597>CMSA: Shenzhou-20's problem happened to be small cracks found on the porthole window of the return capsule very possibly caused by MMOD impact (how unfortunate...) It was determined unsafe for crewed return and thus the decision was made to use the SZ-21 ship instead.>The Shenzhou porthole window consists of a heat-resistant outer panel and two pressure-bearing inner panels. The cracks found on SZ-20 pose a risk of the outer panel shattering during reentry, exposing the inner panels not designed to directly withstand the heat of the plasma.
>>16847438pad 2 is closer to what conventional pads areits just a beefier tower with arms for picking up the rocket and stacking it (which might make sense anyway for an expendable system, self-propelled modular transporters are much easier and cheaper to get compared to some custom crawler or whatever)
>>16847443Honestly its pretty much 100% unless SpaceX does something drastic. Starship is a clusterfuck, and New Glenn nailed a Mars mission on its second flight.
>>16847444What is the purpose of launching something to sit in space for a year? Why not launch closer to the transfer window?
>>16847096The government "reopened", so why would launches still be restricted? Actually why would there be any enforced restriction during a government shutdown in the first place? They couldn't have been THAT shut down if they never stopped collecting taxes and regulating shit.
>>16847443It will be this but with New Glenn instead of SLS and without Lunar Gateway.
>>16847155>>16847159IVA mod is pretty sick, it changed my design philosophy when I first started using it. Now my ships are built around crew comfort, not engineer convenience.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1989340619043693049
>>16847455I like how ng is drawn 25% larger than sls
>>16847378Yeah, and now the 21 crew is stuck in space with a damaged vehicle
>>16847451To increase both cost and the probability of mission failure.
>>16847458i dont get it
>>16847466https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1988883804635779214
>>16847466I think the joke comes from the fact that elon was interviewed like 15 yrs ago, and similarly had a sword he showed off to the interviewing chic.It’s a high functioning autism in-joke it seems. a
>>16847468https://x.com/ArthurMacwaters/status/1988461247600456157
>>16847468Why is the female so tall?
>>16847476Perspective plus high heels.
At this point we don't need starship SLS Orion. Just New Glenn and mk1 lander. Holy shmidt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKw6cRKcqzY>The Radical Plan to Build Data Centers in Space
>>16847006>>16847013why would bigger engines be preferable? dont you get superior economy of scale with current size, more area coverage, and better force distribution?
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1989358416532488406>Good overview of the landing. We nominally target a few hundred feet away from Jacklyn to avoid a severe impact if engines fail to start or start slowly. We’ll incrementally reduce that conservatism over time. We are all excited and grateful for yesterday. Amazing performance by the team! Gradatim Ferociter.
>>16847285all games are like this in pre-alpha, developer builds usually run at like 15 fps until they start optimizing stuff
>>16847493Yeah I’d say that was a bit conservative lol it basically landed with a sideways vector.
>>16847493>>16847495really long hover but I guess it works
>>16847499>We’ll incrementally reduce that conservatism over time
>>16847502yes
>>16847285>>16847496I just loaded it up and it runs much better, while looking much better, wtf are you even talking about
>>16847488Remember Elon's "the best is no part" mantra? For those reasons and a few more. Ceteris Paribus, the fewer parts and sub assemblies the better.
>>16847519Mine refuses to work, it starts loading shit then shuts right off before ever getting to a start screen. I'll wait for a version that works more reliably I guess.
>>16847166real competition? are you retarded?SpaceX does more than BO's total payload to orbit for all time in two launches. BO will catch up to Falcon's annual upmass in the 2030s. Unless of course Falcon's launch cadence continues to increase as it always has.SpaceX will be launching fully reusable next generation rockets with tiny marginal cost well before then. Bezos would need several miracles to catch up.
>>16847318Not spaceflight!
>>16847355Hey moron, we had expendable rockets for a long time.The growth in the space economy is due to decreased launch costs.Every part of what you said is contrary to reality.
>>16847373>people in other countries pretend we have to listen to themno
>>16847493Oh so that's why it looked like it was gonna miss when the camera cut out. I guess it could hover for so long cause the main payload wasn't very heavy?
>>16847524>"the best is no part" mantra?this doesnt apply in this context. elon would never say that a chip should have less transistors because fewer parts is better. he would say dont add shit to the chip thats not neededif he wants 1000 starships a year the manufacturing process needs to be >99% fully automated anyway so assembling more engines is not an issue because you can assemble smaller engines more quickly
>>16847338Hey, how about you shut up.
>>16847537Lower resolutions to 2x on the start screen, you don't have enough VRAM
The most fake shit I have ever laid eyes upon. How do you all cope?
>>16847538Blue Origin is going to fullfill the Artemis contract and Musk is going to fucking seethe.
>>16847423You only keep the booster if you can't launch it again for some reason. It took SpaceX a while to get to where they felt confident enough to relaunch F9, partly because they were still changing shit all the time, but they relaunched SS right away, then stopped trying to catch when they knew they wouldn't launch them again. It was worth more for them to try stunt landings over the gulf.
>>16847493https://x.com/Mookafish/status/1989366984417350053>New Glenn drifted ~240m horizontally from its furthest point from the ship! Insane work from the guidance, navigation and control team.>>16847545That could give it more margin, but New Glenn's landing patterns are based off of New Shepard's and NS has always taken its time doing this dainty little hover maneuver before it settles on a final landing spot. It can get its thrust-weight a lot closer to zero than Falcon can, so it's probably always going to look like it's taking it's time landing in comparison.
>>16847427Gradatim Gradociter
Congratulations! You just got to Mars!You can't breathe the air.There is no magnetosphere, so no protection from harmful solar radiation forcing you to live permanently underground in hermetically sealed environments, hope there isn't a leak or everyone suffocates from CO2. It's colder than the coldest day at the South Pole in the middle of winter.You cannot grow food. Your bodies which specifically evolved to be healthy in Earth's gravity begin to suffer cardiovascular disease since the surface gravity is barely 1/3 that of Earth. Dust storms that can last months to years cloud out the sun, better hope you have plenty of vitamin D supplements in supply! Your entire existence is dependent on a continuous supply of food and material from Earth, which is 3+ months away at the very shortest distance, and by the way that distance is only every 2+ years, so you have a very short time window unless the journey is to take much much longer. The entire planet is trying to kill you, but don't worry you're definitely going to be the future of humanity and "terraform" a dead planet that has no plate tectonics, no magnetic field, no breathable atmosphere, no usable soils and no potable water! It's the future, mister rich billionaire said so because he watched some sci-fi Mars movies as a kid!
>>16847567didn't read. here's your (You)
>>168474419 times fewer than its direct competitor Falcon Heavy
>>16847441>oh no the bigger rocket hasn't done in 5 years what took us 20 yearscope
>>16847567>There is no magnetosphereSource?
>>16847547Your analogy is flawed. You are insisting it is better to use millions of discrete components instead of one integrated circuit.
as expected...the space subreddit is celebrating and hoping that blue origin kills spacex
>>16847561>it's probably always going to look like it's taking it's time landing in comparisonThat would be highly inefficient, wasting a lot of fuel that could be used for extra payload mass
>>16847561>Insane work from the guidance, navigation and control team.how fucking stupid is he?>rocket drifts way off course>can only land because it had way more fuel remaining than it would have on a real launch
>>16847493>had to hover to landdidn't beat the game
Tory Bruno was found dead
>>16847593>rocket drifts way off coursenot as stupid as you clearly.
>>16847589It's ok, Nooglin is a smallest launcher
Any news on zhuque 3 launch?getting two new rockets landing in one month would be kino.
>>16847589starship does the same thing
>>16847597if it's not a suicide burn you aren't a reusable booster
>>16847595How could they tell?
>>16847603shut up man
>>16847605Tory Bruno found dead, it was ruled a suicide burn
>>16847605suicide burns are much more visually impressive, I guess starship landing would look gay too if not for them catching it with tower.
how many muskies turned into reusable boosters after BONG? my guess is at least a dozen
>>16847608Landing legs were found welded to his skull
>>16847576https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars#Atmosphere>Mars lost its magnetosphere 4 billion years ago,[120] possibly because of numerous asteroid strikes,[121] so the solar wind interacts directly with the Martian ionosphere, lowering the atmospheric density by stripping away atoms from the outer layer.[122] Both Mars Global Surveyor and Mars Express have detected ionized atmospheric particles trailing off into space behind Mars,[120][123] and this atmospheric loss is being studied by the MAVEN orbiter. Compared to Earth, the atmosphere of Mars is quite rarefied. Atmospheric pressure on the surface today ranges from a low of 30 Pa (0.0044 psi) on Olympus Mons to over 1,155 Pa (0.1675 psi) in Hellas Planitia, with a mean pressure at the surface level of 600 Pa (0.087 psi).[124] The highest atmospheric density on Mars is equal to that found 35 kilometres (22 mi)[125] above Earth's surface. The resulting mean surface pressure is only 0.6% of Earth's 101.3 kPa (14.69 psi). The scale height of the atmosphere is about 10.8 kilometres (6.7 mi),[126] which is higher than Earth's 6 kilometres (3.7 mi), because the surface gravity of Mars is only about 38% of Earth's.
>>16847554>Buffering...the best moment in this whole shit show
>>16847586Jeff Bezos will save us from the billionaires
>>16847595
25 launches in 2025 btw
>>16847639shut the FUCK up
New Glenn just proved you don't need a fascist Nazi CEO to dominate space
>>16847639
>>16847644Yeah you just need a bald seattle roidlet who will finance each heavy lift launch out of his own pocket.
>>16847639oh no no no no
when is the next new glenn flight anyway
>>16847677"January"
Is New Glenn basically just a better Atlas V?
>>16847677Scheduled for mid january thanks to the booster landing.
>>16847683A better Vulcan
You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golems. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA&t=1136s
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1989381345903247410/
Who are the steel suppliers for gigabay?
>>16847694soon
>>16847694Methane and methane accessories.
>>16847694the gold looks so good, I just wish they'd give up on the ugly 0000FF blue and leave it pure white
What happens when America uses Americium for rockets?
https://x.com/CIRA_CSU/status/1989196950806360569>Circling the world over the last couple of nights, the aurora borealis put on quite a spectacular show in the sky of the northern hemisphere.
>>16847725thrusters or just electric power supply?
>>16847644>dominatelol, lmao even
> Soviet 1987 nuclear Mars mission: It's a 200m long 428 ton ship assembled by 5x Energia launches, driven by two separate molten-lithium nuclear-electric thrusters. The full mission with return was 716 days for 4 crew.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vv3P2NYdOMCourtesy of Elonovich Muskovar.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/blue-origin-nasa-launch-mars-shot-across-the-bow-for-elon-musk-spacex/
>>16847755spacex is shutting down, existing starships will be sold for scrap, all starlink sats are being deorbited as we speak
>>16847757Holy f*ck, I just came and started farting
https://x.com/BaronCapital/status/1989318999927107663starts at like 14min
https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1989412425192313163
>>16847706https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1989411980713865718
>>16847773How many Starships are needed for this? Mars colonization will be slow, Elon Musk needs the Starships for the cis lunar economy.
>>16847723Cope. The era of utilitarianist rocket designs is over. The era of beautiful and timeless rocket designs is here.
>>16847782just divide 100gigawatts by the average power generated by the latest version of starlink
Can't wait to build the Venus cloud city on the /sfg/ KSA server
>>16847787Yeah, which is why I'm complaining about their color choice. White + gold is amazing aesthetically, white + gold + default ms paint blue is horrid.
>>16847782[100 GW / 100 kW (per satellite)] / 60 starlinks per starship = 16.7k starship launches per yearso 45 starship launches per day, 5 launch padsabout 10 launches per pad per day
>>16847791
>>16847795
>>16847797At this point the spacecraft became buoyant in Venus' atmosphere and kept floating up
>5'11 vs 6'0
>>16847723it looks so half assed. they clearly originally intended everything with the cloth texture to be blue, then gave up on it for weight savings or better thermal performance or whatever. but they never went back and redesigned the livery to match
>>16847811where are the mach diamonds, jeff?
>>16847814no mach hymen no mach diamondor something like that
>>16847811The shrouded nozzels are more aesthetic desu.
>>16847755Bezos just beat SpaceX to Mars. How fucking embarrassing to be musk
>>16847794Time to dust off those NASA Space Solar Power studies from the 70s/80s.
Blackrack is a god
>Imagine, if you will, a fleet of 60 six-mile-long satellites in geosynchronous orbit beaming 300 gigawatts of electricity down to Earth. Think Astronomers are bitching now about sats interfering with their Science welfare jobs, just wait.
>>16847820Musk still has a chance, those escapades will linger near earth for a year waiting for mars transfer window to open.
>>16847828the troonomers will have to get their own satellites
>>16846876least obvious bait
>>16846919>SpaceX can't rely on F9 margins for much longer
>>16847828but what Musk is talking about is data centers in space, the measuring stick is just the power inputnot about solar power being beamed down to earthits taking the datacenters into space so the power doesn't need to be beamed anywhere
>>16847835they haven't done that for years
>>16847538"Real competition" as in "SpaceX will have to reduce prices to maintain market share"
>>16847602latest word i heard is mid-late november launch
Surely this will mean that Musk will stop posting about politics and AI slop on twitter, and focus on accelerating the Starship program instead so that they don't fall behind, right guys?
>>16847839Well, for practical purposes, "F9 margins" includes the margins of downstream products such as Starlink
>>16847837Grok?>The electricity sector earned $491 billion in 2023, which was about 1.8% of the US GDP.That's the low peach on the branch.
>>16847841F9 is still going to be cheaper unless someone wants to launch a big satellite which rarely ever happens
>>16847848it's grok imagine posts from now until the end of time, anon
>>16847849lol, lmao
>>16847851Do you think BO will never be able to get NG's kg prices below today's F9 kg prices? Despite having scale, engine and methalox advantage?
>>16847850power is the limiting factor right now, its not about the cost its about availability
>>16847820vroom vroom muthafucker
>>16847853what was xAI's address again?
>>16847855its not a given they do even with those advantagesand the more important question, in what time frame?
>>16847858?
>>16847854Launch is a key input to Starlink, arguably *the* key input. $1 more of Starlink margin is $1 less of F9 margin, and vice versa. So they're practically the same.BO's NG is going to help competitors in every type of market that is downstream of launch
>>16847863yes, eventuallybut when?starship is happening
>>16847860Why did SpaceX increase scale, abandon the gas generator cycle, and move to methalox for Starship, if it doesn't bring advantages?>and the more important question, in what time frame?In whatever time frame BO can ramp up NG cadence to meaingful levels. So 3-4 years, probably.
>>16847863New Glenn is going to have trouble passing those savings on to customers because the second stage is huge and expensive and the first stage is heavy and underpowered.
>>16847864Yes, that's the point. SpaceX needs Starship to become operational in a commercial sense soon, and they need it to work well, because they won't be able to rely on F9-enabled margins for much longer
>>16847867passing savings on to the customer is easy, if there are savings to pass on
>>168478683-4 years is pretty long
>>16847869That's the problem: they don't exist yet. The fairings are a consumable, the first stage needs to be understood properly to know where its flight life bounds lie, and they need to figure out how to make the second stage cheaper. I don't think Escapade, as flown, can realistically cost less than $80 million if Blue Origin isn't flying its hardware at a loss.
>>16847773The AI bubble will burst like the fucking tsar bomb at this rate
>>16847876>the great filter candidate isn't AI but rather AI bubbles
>>168478733-4 years isn't that long in aerospace terms. There might turn out to me some flaw in the Starship concept that is hard to solve. For example, it might turn out that refurbishing a Starship that's decelerated from orbital speeds is more expensive and time-consuming than expected, without also not overbuilding the Starship to the point that payload margins become too small. It might take many years to perfect to the point that there are significant cost savings
>>16847875If F9 can reuse the fairings, shouldn't NG also be able to do so eventually?BO should be able to understand every aspect of NG soon enoughThe best way to make the second stage cheaper, in terms of average cost, should be to make a lot more of themEven if NG costs $80m and cannot ever go below this, that should still allow them to underbid F9 current price on a per kg basis. The price for an F9 launch I got while searching was $67m.
>>16847830whats the mission supposed to do anyways?
>>16846976>would need completely new propulsion system.>Genergo’s system generates thrust without using any propellant and without expelling reaction mass, by directly converting electrical energy into thrust through controlled electromagnetic impulses. To the company’s knowledge, it is the first space-propulsion system worldwide capable of operating without propellant, flight-tested and validated on orbit, and it represents a clear discontinuity from current standards. By design, the technology is scalable and operates with a modest power requirement.Obviously not applicable to Starship's needs but it was the segue I needed.
>>16847879its long in SpaceX terms
>>16847882>If F9 can reuse the fairings, shouldn't NG also be able to do so eventually?Yes, but it won't be trivial to do so, and it's not currently something they make themselves. The weight of recovery hardware will also eat into their payload margins.
Lifting surfaces are kino and shuttle pilled. Put lifting surfaces in everything. So elegant.
>>16847882>Even if NG costs $80m and cannot ever go below this, that should still allow them to underbid F9 current price on a per kg basis. The price for an F9 launch I got while searching was $67m.That was cost, not price. Price wise, Blue Origin needs to charge closer to $100 million or more to launch a New Glenn. It only costs SpaceX about $20 million to fly a Falcon 9; the other $47 million on missions without any extra services is pure profit.
>>16847486>Little cooling options>No wired connections>Can't easily upgrade hardware>Radiation issuesSpace is literally the dumbest place possible to put a data center.
>>16847904new glenn is a space plane
HEY MUSKFUCKThis is launching in two months you dumbfuck
>>16847926so this is big enough for 2 people right?
;)
>>16847926That thing is going to tip over
>>16847926they are launching a prop?
>>16847926Impressive. Spacex still has no HLS prottotype
>>16846919>damn, only took them 10 years, finally people will stop whining that i’m a monopoly.>anyways, back to making my existing revolutionary rocket outdate by building an even bigger one that’s fully reusable.
>>16847811So is “rocket grade LNG” really just methane, or does BO have some tolerance to run some impurities through BE-4As far as I understand it LNG ≠ pure liquid methane
>>16847561Astra could never
>>16847468Based, knowing how to swordfight is on Heinlein's list of how to be a competent adult
>>16847821the funny thing is that Elon is on record disparaging space solar power, despite it being kind of the ideal application for someone who owned both Solar City and SpaceX. He rightly saw that too much energy is wasted in microwave transmission, both adsorption and dispersion.HOWEVER, if you can use that energy directly in orbit...
>>16847948attention student, who has never worked in industry, there is a detailed specification for the "methane" fuel that we are not privy to, but it will be very specific in defining limits of what impurities can and cannot be there. Its never pure methane, neither is the shit SpaceX uses. Its per proprietary minimal specification, and nothing else. Definitely some unwanted bullshit in there, but exactly how much of each, we will never know.If a rocket company claims to use commodity "pipeline gas" without any modification, I will be impressed. But in reality, all of these niggers are purifying it to various degrees to reduce chances of observations, because you know those impurities can corrode valves, and we know what happens then
>>16847468
>>16847957>adsorptionYou know adsorption isn't just a fancy way of saying absorption.
>>16847916>radiators>laserlinks>just upgrade the whole satellite>nothingburger
>>16847904She has the proportions of a Pringles can
>>16847960You can kinda torture it to apply here, but yeah, absorption is a better fit.
aaaaand dropped. DOA
>>16847966Ugh gay. Discord and reddit should be bought out and shut down
>>16847966go back.
>>16847963>giant radiators bigger than the solar panels>slower than wired >replace perfectly good solar panels and radiators when the gpu gets outdated after 2 yearsall this for the benefit of>????
>>16847991>replace perfectly good solar panels and radiators when the gpu gets outdated after 2 yearsAlready doing this with starlink>all this for the benefit ofUnlimited expansion and free electricity
>>16847963>radiatorsSomething which has literally never been done in space and may not be possible
McCulloch meme drive status?
>>16847966just use a throwaway email, dumbass.
>>16848001needs more funding
Happy friday bros. Gonna unplug this real quick and move it
>>16847960I blame the spell checker. yeah
>>16848024too late. it was already thrown into the dumpster after the JPL cutbacks. There was nobody around who remembered what it was used for.
>>16848028and no one who could read English
>>16848024>voyager using a time warner cable modem circa 2005
>>16848046It was cutting edge tech in 1977
>>16848024>>16848046That Sun Microsystems processor was probably top-notch when it came out
>>16847006>left room for only a single engine to gimble
>>16848072You gimble by throttling. With a billion engines it works
https://youtu.be/XAYYWjvXgaMHullo
>>16848072>he needs more
>>16848046>cable modemthat's a SCSI external hard drive, zoomie
Damn there's a huge backlog of photos now being dumped on the NASA image archive. Looks like the SLS stack for Artemis 2 was stacked and prepared in Highbay 3 back in mid-October
The SpaceX AV bogtranny is quitting.
>>16848101No way LOL. I think he still manually switches the camera angle at each launch. Any idea where he is going now, some other startup or small newspace company?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPLt9OuWeygStarlink time again, T-45:00, to be followed a few hours later by more Starlink
>>16847694So clean, why is F9 such a coal burner?
>>16848113>spaceX dabbing on Body Oder by landing TWO boosters back to back
>>16848115Simple and clean methane combustion vs very long-chain and dirty RP-1 combustion with soot
ESCAPADE mission
>>16848121Holy shit it spends like an entire year+ around earth trying to build up an oberth slingshot. Is this the power of the shitass New Glenn?
Whether you like it or not, the optimal NASA with Jared in charge is a bunch of lame ass, cheap planetary missions that take 15+ years of gravity assists alone and don't have optical cameras so you won't get pretty photos
>>16848101Damn, end of an era. I hope this doesn't mean the launch visuals will stagnate.
>>16847958“Methane got what Rockets Crave. It got Electrolytes”
The welding of the legs to the barge is ridiculous. Should have made the legs longer instead.
>>16848122Cope and sneed, muskrat. The Oberth Maneuver is a wonder of spaceflight.
>>16848134Yeah maybe if you're Methuselah of the old testament and expect to live a thousand years. I want direct injections to other solar system bodies and superficial pretty images of our solar system ASAP
I want another probe to this lil nigga
Clear Live!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kt9KKSb3hshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kt9KKSb3hshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kt9KKSb3hs
>>16848134Once Starship is up, a fully refueled bird can launch to Uranus with a full payload bay and perform an aerocapture to orbit. Gonna be sweet!
Max-Qute!
>>16848143>The combination of being refueled in space and also using Starship as an aerobrake could cut the time to the Uranus system in half, to six and a half years. It also wouldn’t require any gravitational assists from any other planets on the way.
>>16848143One whole banana to Uranus
>>16848143>Once Starship is uplol, lmao even
It's just that easy.
>>16848147There's no way that bucket of bolts would survive 6 years in the void
>>16848001I'm also curious about this. There were updates and discussions for a good while, then I was away for work and only occasionally checking 4chan, and everything was quiet about it when I got back.
>>16848148There's a trade space with the number of tanker flights, keep discard or aero with Starships, transit time and payload. Low end is 20 tons and a dozen years. Max is 6 years and 80 tons. In Uranian orbit.And since it's a direct flight, there's a window every year.
>>16848142Why is she wasting her time with Starlink missions? Is she autistic?
>>16848168Japan invented autism
>HOLD
>>16848168>Is she autistic?After the official broadcast ended, she rewatched the launch.
its over
Uh oh, stinky
Bezos will personally go to space before Elon does.
>>16848121Is that 100% gravity assist, or do they need do an engine burn?
>>16848202Technically, hasn't he already?
>>16848143>Fully refueledLol. Gravity slingshots are going to be faster than refueling Starship.
>>16847926Gold and white is the new BO aesthetic.Fuck blue.
What is the point of Kitten Space Agency? Kerbal with mods is pretty much everything you could want from a space game.
>>16848207Even Kerbal with just RSS and nothing else has garbage performance.
I wouldn't mind ksa posts if they were by actual people showing off what they were doing in game, but right now it's all advertisements under the guise of development updates. You lazy shills don't even post in the engineering games general on /vg/.
>>16848203Oeberth effect burn. Burn your engines deep inside a gravity well to get an extra kick
>>16848117RP-1 can burn clean like HLOX, any fuel canJust a matter of how much melted engine is considered acceptable
>>16848205Sundiving aside, planetary slingshots reduce Delta for a given objective, which can reduce travel times from impossible to at least possible with Old Space weakwear. However, transit time is still long and payload small. And of course, you have to deal with constrained launch windows.Starship shatters those shackles.
>>16848236All Saarshit shatters is it's launch pad and heat shield tiles.
Kerbal community is made up of tranny cults
>>16848269who cares about the community? I just play the game by myself.
>>16848202Tesla shareholders would sue him if he tries to.
SpaceX should stay at v3 momentarily for HLS, human rating can't proceed if the vessel keeps changing every 12 months
>>16848283That's cool anon.
>>16848292I think that is the plan at the moment
>>16848283That's so autistic you reignited my interest a little.
>>16848292did they even plan for hls to go v4?
>>16848303yes
>>16847359Indonesia keeps begging SpaceX to build a launch complex right on the equatorIt also has heaps of methane that are basically unexploited
Earth>Mercury>Uranus>>Neptune>Saturn>Mars>Jupiter>Venus
>>16847966No this anon has a pointNo website downloadNo Steam pageNo news sectionAll information is disseminated through a fucking app that WILL keel over and die one day, taking all it's knowledge with it
>>16848311most retarded post of the day
>2025>still haven't left ball earthkek at goyim cattle, how do you all cope?
>>16848311>Uranus>>NeptuneThese are both worthless
https://x.com/Kemp/status/1989518768759083032what did he mean by this? paintchips finally catching up to him
>>16848168Vtumoring is first and foremost about the vtumor, not anything else that happens on stream. HTH.
>>16847958>Its never pure methanethe eager space video I watched made it sound like it almost had to be due to different hydrocarbons having different buoyancies, which would lead to them separating while sitting in the fuel tank
>>16847959Elon's canonically never experienced the joy of inseminating into an actual woman.
>>16848398It's a distraction
>>16848212Isn't posting about games like ksp/ksa on /vg/ frowned upon after what happened with the ksp general?
I really don't like that Jeff is sending something to Mars before Elon. Dude couldn't find even one payload to throw at Mars as a token gesture?
>>16848405It's just KSP that's verboten. Space Engineers and a bunch of other games were fine. Just the KSP autists caused the mods to have an insane melty and have never dropped the grudge.
>>16848428whywhat did they do
>>16848430You are asking me to remember something that happened like 12 years ago. I simply cannot recall. I just remember that /KSP/ and then /egg/ had some (or several) KSP related autist that caused the mods to go fuckin' crazy and ban the game.
>>16848470WOW!
>>16848470That's insane
>>16848168>sheno>autismalyes
>>16848202on SpaceX hardware>>16848204no
>>16848436probably doxxed the janny tranny or something
>>16848436Wasn't it something crazy like spamming really horrible shit in the generals?
>Starship is going to be fully rabidly reusableOk but how?>We will use ceramic heat tilesI heard it doesn't work>We figured out that it will work with crunch wrapIs this crunch wrap rapidly reusable?>I AM STUPID, YOU WIN THE ARGUMENT
https://youtu.be/PDvqXA9NLR8
>>16848524crunch wrap just keeps the thing together, no reason to believe why it shouldn't be reusable
>>16848524fuck off, retard
>>16848320fucking dicksores
Implessive
KSA looks gay. Kittens are not nearly as good as frogs. They went with kittens because "little green men looked expendable and people will care about kittens more". But I suspect they used kittens because muh Pepe is right-wing. Women are the only ones liking cats.
>>16848550So they ate a $55M loss?
hurry the fuck up and build tourist destinations i want to go to space
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1989704582025679295
>>16848565Glenn is a big guy.
>>16848565This will make people with OCD kill themselves.
>>16848565Forget the rocket show us the crew amenities. There is some kind of workshop. They probably have a break room and shitter at minimum. Maybe sleeping quarters.
>>16848561you wont be able to afford to anon
Daily reminder Elon wanted to build N1
>>16848568for Jeff
>>16848571good, but also why? the tiling is inconsistent? it isnt symmetrical?
>>16846859kek, this guy gets itwide like barge
He is like a real-life Tony Stark.
https://x.com/davill/status/1989717848307220607>Jacklyn and “Never Tell Me The Odds” underway to port. Currently tracking for a Tuesday arrival
>>16848599more like Tony Dork
>>16848599pic unrelated
>>16848611Imagine if it accidentally goes into Somali water and pirates steal it.
>>16848611thats why they weld everything down.
>>16847133Are they gonna paint the pyramid over so it looks uniform instead of with all the seams everywhere or nah?
>>16848574quite overbuilt and unnecessary. Why send that much shit out to sea? Its supposed to be a minimally equipped unmanned drone, not a fucking repair bay & garage
>>16848621It's gonna get sandblasted clean by the launches anyway.It's all some sort of stainless so I think they're trying to not paint it.
>>16848611we really need floating cities already
>>16848633On Venus
>>16848574all that stuff is on the boat that follows the barge
whats the most launches in a 24 hour period? how long until we beat that?
>>16848599
>>16848658if only bezos was half as interesting as lex then people might actually care about blue
elon bro's...did we get to cocky?
The most fake shit I have ever laid eyes upon. How do you losers cope with this blatant CGI and fakery?
>>16848671I am a former Elon Musk fan, I am a former SpaceX fan, I am a former Blue Origin hater, I am a former Jeff Bezos hater. But now I know better and i feel deeply ashamed about my past.
>>16848679>>16848671These posts are stale and boring.
>>16847375pretty sure they are the most independent and self-sufficient space capable nation, low-wit
>>16848526>Spectrum's stages have arrived at our launch pad at Andøya Spaceport for pre-Flight 2 testingFlight 2 before 2026?
KSA is supposed to run, right? Like the game is meant to work, not crash while loading every time no matter what settings are selected?
>>16847477>while you pursued females I mastered the swordhe is one of us
>>16848681>most independent and self-sufficient space capable nationYou think they source their avionics equipment 100% domestically?
>>16848690Contrary to all other flying rockets there actually is a design they could revert to for Soyuz that doesn't even use integrated circuits.
>F9: 9 engines, needs to hoverslam>NG: 7 engines, can throttle down to TWR of 1are BE4s just better than merlins?
>>16848692On paper. If they don't find the old guard in retirement homes i would have my doubts about their ability to pull it off.
>>16848693probably since merlins are 20 year old technology
>>16848690winky the dwarf cat is such a silly looking creature
>>16848693Merlins can throttle lower than BE-4.The rocket is just too light relatively due to being skinny.
>>16847488Bigger engines have less internal surface area per thrust, so they have less cooling and friction losses, potentially resulting in a gain in efficiency.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1989672314573918285>It seems like another Gravity-1 has been transported onto the DFHTG launch ship.
>>16847555>Blue Origin is going to fulfill the Artemis contract and Musk is going to be able to concentrate on Mars like he wants to.ftfy
the problem with starship is that you cant easily add extensions to the exterior. meanwhile its easy for capsules to be extended.
>>16848685You don't have enough VRAM. I had to lower everything to 2k res to get it to work. For some reason they're loading in the entire solar system's textures all at once instead of doing tiling like Space Engine does. So yeah, the game is technically accessible to everyone including school children like Dean wanted, but they're going to have to cope with all the planets looking like blobs. Or just wait until they implement their custom system which will use proc gen to make the planets look interesting, because we all know children want to go to Meowrs not Mars. Truly inspiring.
>>16848706Remember when SpaceX bid Starship for Commercial LEO Destinations and NASA told SX to kill themselves bc Starship can’t accept exterior modifications
>>16848693>are BE4s just better than merlins?It would be weird if they weren't better, you should compare them to raptors
>>16848709just add more payload doors
>>16848706Delusional?I have never seen anything added to a capsule exterior. Meanwhile SpaceX is constantly sticking stainless doohickeys on the outside of the ship.
>>16848675what part of it looks fake to you?>inb4 "all of it"
>>16848706What do you mean? Is Starship not just a capsule bolted atop a methalox tank w/ Raptors underneath?
>>16848668some of Amazon ideas are definitely super villain worthy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfaflmjDNDY&t=226s
>>16848714>I have never seen anything added to a capsule exteriori mean modules like apollo service module and soyuz descent module
>>16848708I have plenty of VRAM and turned everything down LOWER than that, it still crashed.KSA does not work and I have already deleted it from my system, I'll give it another chance when they make it work.
>>16848704Blue Origin just sent two ships to Mars. Starship barely gets off the launch pad. Bezos is going to have an Amazon warehouse on Mars before Starship completes a single refueling.
>>16848720You can't make modules that dock to Starship? Is that what you are saying?
>>16848724yes
>>16848721You need to be Discord™ Nitro™ subscriber for it to run
Anyway, it hasn't even been a day and Kerbals are already modded in and I saw someone already replaced the Sol system with the Kerbol system
>>16848723>Blue Origin just sent two ships to Mars.To a two-year parking orbit, you mean. >>16848121
>>16848728Repulsive, back to KSP for me.
>>16848721It would be ironic if after 2 sequels KSP1 proves to be unkillable even by a team that has onboard the original dev, some of the best KSP1 modders and even an ex-SpaceX flight sw engineer. Good games seems to survive despite having been mashed up from suboptimal components and engine.
>>16848731The real solar system won't be the default tho. The game will use a downsized solar system just like KSP.
>>16847773>consumes roughly 460 gigawatts per year?
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1989691229752168925>First person view of opening the Shenzhou-21's hatch.
>>16848743its been 20 years, when are they moving on from 1960s capsules
>>16848743>sit upside down in the burned up cuckpod until someone unbolts the hatch to let you outFFS, we're still doing things like it's the 60s. We need to make spaceflight aesthetic.
>>16848743Hell yeah, good footage. I will NOT make fun of shenzhou.
>>16848748It's just a rebranded Baseduz. We'll see what the chinks are capable of when Mengzhou takes flight.
>>16848745>>16848746They took soyuz and made it bigger and better. Their upcoming Mengzhou capsule will probably be impressive.
Even the shitass blue origin SLD lander will be bigger and better than the chinky Lanyue lander
>>16848753Haven’t you heard the news, chud? USA is scrapping everything and just building LM II on a cost+ contract. Artemis 3 will be a simple hypergolic contortionist box where two astronauts step on the surface and leave as fast as they can
>>16848753What's the point in Blue Moon and Moonship (not calling it the gay name) being so big if it's not to establish a Lunar base, which China has plans to do after the initial touch and go missions?
>>16848756That's why there is renewed interest to scrap and restart the HLS lander initiative. Duffy doesn't give a shit about le epic sustainability meme. He knows he just needs a flag-and-footprints before China gets there. And he wants to open the tap for 'traditional contractors' to make a boatload of money, which Congress very much wants.>b-but Jared is now administrator!Jared will find out very quickly that bucking the system gets you nowhere. Remember when Elon and DOGE disrupted the system, and was promptly expelled from DC? Jared can campaign on the promise of changing everything, but reality will hit soon enough
>>16847916this, put them in fucking northern Canada, cheap land, dump the heat in the polar vortex, zap the mosquitos
>>16847936inflatable, like a bouncy castle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvOzs6yW3eo
any news about orbital refilling? last I heard, the first demo mission would come as soon as they nail flight 13, where they'll finally go into orbit with V3. I hope they can spam as many starship launches as possible in the first part of the year, cause at this pace it's gonna be difficult for them to make the 2026 launch window.
>>16848470START DOING THIS-->
>>16848702That could be anything
>>16848740Hopefully they don't make it too easy like KSP though, or let us resize the solar system to make it harder.
>>16848795i think i remember nsf people thinking it would be NET May but they seem to be too conservative lately
>>16848778Great footage!
Taking my talents to Blue Origin
speaking of, when are they going to start launching from vandy
>>16848690all I know is they are not a parasite permanently attached to the USA's jugular
>>16848717Starship is a spaceplane minus the wings.
>>168488092 weeks
>>16848802>NET MayWell, that's something. The window is in Q4 of next year, so they have some margin. Still, if they happen to run into some issues, I'm not certain if they can make it to Mars with zero refuelling launches, even if it's with no payload at all. 26 more months of waiting time just to get EDL data would be a very unfortunate scenario.
>>16848795>2026 windownah they're going all in on the moon for now. they don't have the capacity yet to fill a depot for both the moon and mars in 2026
>>16848828Yes they do and they will and you will cope about it either way
>>16848828wronghttps://www.spacex.com/humanspaceflight/mars>SpaceX is planning to launch the first Starships to Mars in 2026. These first vehicles will gather critical data on entry and landing, serving as the forerunners to future crew and cargo deliveries to the Martian surface.
>>16848837I'm generally optimistic on starship but there's 0% chance this is happening.
>>16848837lol lmao even
>>16848837>Functional Starship>Working Depot>40 tanker flights, per an expert and close personal friend of Berger>All by next DecemberSure. That's gonna happen.
>>16848693No, F9 is optimized for perfection. NG is unoptimized and thus has to hover quite a long time. Its wasted fuel. I'm sure they can increase the margin by reducing the hover time, but we'll see how they want to move forward
>>16848811Starship is a spaceplane minus the "plane*
>>16848846>40 tanker flightsyou can't just keep inflating this number every time you post, it's getting comical enough that nobody's gonna believe it
>>16848809Quincena
>>16848846>40 tanker flightskill yourself, retard
>>16848811So true
>>16848853>You can't just keep inflating this number every time you post! You just can't -- okay!Stop crying like a little bitch. 40 is, as described, the estimate of a well known space insider used as a source by renown space reporter Eric Berger in his recent article we discussed.Now, get back on your bus -- tourist.
how many tanker flights do you need with zero payload anyways?
>>1684885350 flights? they are never going to make itwith 80 flights, how do they even have the launch pads100 flights a minimum
>>16848862must have been spaceguy5
>>16848847Let Jeff cook. It's better to use wide margins to secure a reused booster than to dunk one in the drink. We'll see if they manage to optimize it in the future.
>>16848862
Next BONG rip when?
>>1684886525
>>16848872January, depending on how long it takes to clear Odds for its next flight. Might be later, but they're not planning another launch this year.
>>16848867A "household name in the space industry". So Tory -- or possibly Elon having a breakdown and going all "Truth or Dare" with Eric.
>>16848866Why don't they just run a big flexible pipe up to LEO and fuel the depot directly? Seems obvious desu
"Hey Hey! No prisoners. Kill them all!"
this thread is proof that 20th century American retard sterilization programs were necessary and beneficial
>>16848887Why, because you are here posting?
>>16848887elaborate
>>16848884Hey Hey! Marcus House here, woe to the vanquished
>>16848887>Having another Girl Cry because he got fact checked into the boards. Again.
>>16848892"This Jihad is sponsored by Square Space."
>>16848887Well it obviously didn't work, now did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvURVG_b10>NG-2 Launch Recap
>>16848900wtf is that file name you went with
Electrocutes your Mars probes. Nothing personal kid.$100 mission down the plug because the probes that aren't leaving for Mars until next year just had to go into space now.
>>16848901its a spell that turns you gay when you read it
>>16848902nothingburger, stop the fear-mongering.
>>16848906The Icecapade probes are built with commercial grade electronics. They're gonna get fired.
>>16848902Well at least it was only $100, just buy another one
>>16848902I ran the numbers, this isn't going to do anything to commercial electronics.
how do you think its going to be logistically possible for SpaceX to do 120 refilling flights next year?
>>16848924there's no way they'll be able to do the 180 flights they need for HLS
>>16848924At this point I'm not worried about the cadence of Starship launches cause I know that SpaceX will eventually reach those numbers with full reusability, but rather concerned about where in the fuck they are gonna get that amount of methane and LOX. One billion trucks arriving to boca chunga every hour is not an optimal solution.
>>16848930Time and time again, we have seen the ability of spacex to mobilize and increase their output exponentially. I think they will be ready for the 210 flights needed
>>16848932https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/09/spacex-moves-closer-to-making-its-own-rocket-fuel-at-starship-launch-site/>There are innumerable bottlenecks to achieving such a fast launch cadence. One of them is simply a matter of logistics. It takes more than 200 tanker trucks traveling from distant refineries to deliver all of the methane, liquid oxygen, and liquid nitrogen for a Starship launch. >more than 200 tanker truckslmao
>>16848930300 flights? why would you want to do 300 flights?
hullohttps://www.youtube.com/live/4dmWHiM7pNw
>>16848936>300 confirmed flights
https://x.com/ApoStructura/status/1989794100074484196>SpaceX has now launched more mass to orbit since their first flight in 2006 than the rest of the US combined has for its entire history.
>>16848947Elon 'order of magnitude' Musk does it again!
>>16848947soon most of that is going to be propellant
>>16848947Okay but if you take away starlink then they have nothing, so. I don't see what the big idea is. Just another rich billionaire trying to artificially astroturf himself into the record books. Has spacex launched important missions, like InSight or James Webb? I don't think so. Just tesla roadsters to help his own stocks go up. Typical
aaaaaaaaaaand thats a block
>>16848949>propellant deliveries: 90%>starlink launches: 9%>all other mass to orbit: 1%
>>16848902this happens all the time. its just a risk to probes during launch because it cant reboot easily. its fine for the year long journey for these CMEs to happen
>>16848955Ooh, aren't we sensitive.
>>16848955>Troon Man Badok bro
>>16848942>>16848955Now that he's retired, has he divulged what it is he did at Apple? He wasn't allowed to talk about it when he was hired. Maybe he still has a no-talk clause even though he quit lol
total KSA death
>>16848955>Kerbalunique, memorable, funny, whimsical setting, sovl>Kittendesign by democracy, no vision, max realism meme, sovlless
>>16848955he's a faggot with an annoying voice that produces nothing of value, block him and move on with your life
>>16848967Cats are aryanimals and space is aryan territory. Now I get why so many of you are seething about this game.
>>16848970NTA I used to be a defender but nah, KSA is actually cringe and gay
>>16848970they admitted to choosing kittens because that was the least objectionable of all the options when polled by the community.if they had chosen cats out of an actual design choice congruent with some developer vision, that'd be something else
>>16848970>le wholesome chonkergo back to plebbit
So anon, you have chosen to make a KSP1 killer. What do YOU call it? And what do you do instead of little green men (based) or kittens (cringe)?
>>16848970seeing cats die horribly in a failed launch is gay and retarde
>>16848979use real humans, I wanna feel like I'm in some legit spaceflight mission, not a goddamn cartoon.
>>16848979Ugandan Space Programme, USPyou launch black people, and you have to scrap together some piece of shit parts (thats why you have so many random ones) by any means necessary
>>16848982the backstory is that you were a billionaire that left the Europe due to it collapsing under dysfunction and Uganda is actually an upgrade
>>16848970>aryanimalsThats the toxo in your porous cyst infested brain talking.
So what would you have preferred? They couldn't use kerbals because of copyright so you can forget that. Tardigrades?
>>16848987The Right Stuff Guys
Am I the only one who's in love with expendable rockets? Super customized enhanced GTO trajectory for Viasat-3 F2.
>>16848987battalion wars-style humans
So none of you have any non-meme suggestions.
>>16848987humans. based on which country your HQ is based
>>16848947wheres Blue Origin on this chart?
Just unsubbed from Scott Manley after that comment
>>16849000le old white dudes bit?
>>16849001Yep. I thought he was just a centrist boomer but he'd a faggot like the rest of them.
>>16848987muskrats
>>16848987Muppets. Literally Muppets. I want to see big floppy mouths screaming and tiny arms flailing as I fail a landing on the muppet-moon.I want to put Big Bird on the shuttle and rewrite history.
>>16849002he has shown himself to be a faggot over and over again
>>16848982Lol won't be able to sell this to normies but it's still funny
At this point he is more likely to go to Mars than you.He is used goods and expandable.He has issue and has proven to be stable and not a liability.
>>16849011https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stBzxTofBGE
>>16849014Launching my Shitfuck Stack 1 rocket with 3 afronauts aboard
Guys will you buy my new game, NSP?
>>16849018what about GNSP?
>>16848728Unironically, is there a torrent or reup somewhere? I refuse/can't be fucked to create a dummy Discord account.
>>16849067You don't need a discord account. There's an option to make an account with an email.
>>16848979>>16848988Space Flight Guys (SFG)
>>16849067>torrentI've pinned it in the /sfg/ discord.
>>16849072*gals
>>16848987rocketgirls
>>16849072All generals are vacant lots. Trash gets dumped in them. Chase out the meme drive /x/ poster and some banned /v/ clique swans in.
Meme Drive status?
>>16849121Nothing conclusive, meme status lives on.
>>16849121If that shit were legit, Elon would personally invest on it. Same with ayylmaos, he would be the first one to know about them.
>>16848987Gnomes.Space Flight Gnomes.
>>16849153This is actually such a good idea lol
>>16849153Or little snarling gremlins that squeeze and stretch and squash like a wile e coyote cartoon. They could be comically evil like minions and be silly to kill off and explode and smash into rock and such.
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1989856098409758793Rocket Lab's not the one one doing stage separation videos with sound
Kittens is so boring actuallyLike it's too real
should've been gatos instead
>>16848204Yes
>>16849164hold on...gnomes vs gremlins
>>16848549I wish the discord furboi was real and groomed me.
>>16848902>ringing ears, head pressure, fatiguewtf, I just had this stuff for a couple days. Am I going down some solar flare allergy schizo rabbit hole
>>16849191No you're just fat
>>16849193I'm painfully thin, I'm trying to gain some weight but it's massive work trying to eat a lot. I genuinely don't understand how people can just get fat by accident
I'm sad New Glenn dropped the spiderlegs and just went with !F9 legs.
>>16849153Gnomes are indeed spaceflight>>16849164A Minion-esque character would actually work lol. They share a lot of characteristics with Kerbals. Maybe for the licensed movie-tie in game.
>>16848932>>16848935They are expanding onsite (relative term via the pipeline) production, and will continue to push for ever greater production capacity. It's not a matter of "if" but "when".
>>16848935Why not .. add a little port for gas tankers?
>>16848932I think eventually there's just going to be a pipeline from this bigass LNG facility being built across the port from Starbase
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1989896438302802158?s=20>NEWS: Hughesnet is preparing to refer its own customers to rival @Starlink after its parent company, EchoStar, reached a deal to sell radio spectrum to SpaceX.>Hughesnet says it had 783,000 broadband subscribers at the end of September.
>>16849279That is a massive ubdertaki g and there is a port like 10 mikes awayYou add a pipe from the existing port
>>16848982>>16849011I could picture it as one of those janky meme simulator gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbPvPJMdCGs
>>16849281>Look up to the sky>It's all Starlink satellites>Look up to the EM spectrum>It's all Starlink ownedRadio astronomers hate him
>>16849289Radio astronomers have to pay a fee to Elon to observe the crab nebula
>>16849280Belated pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Z35Uw38Cw
Regulations can't help the EU with this.
>>16847117just like first stage reuse was a meme, right bruno?>>16848750>Baseduzbeen a while since I've seen that filter
>>16849385Oh would you prefer if I stopped posting?
>>16849382they'll find some way to bilk spacex for billions a year
>>16849419yeah, probably mostly a pretense to tax starlink massively
>>16849422or do like brazil and fine one of his other businesses
>>16849419While cucking themselves out of tens of billions in the process.
>>16849382Nuking EU, Brazil, China, India, Russia, California, and Canada would solve the issue.
>>16848987cute teenage vampires
>>16849427>conveniently leaves out israelI wonder who was behind this post.
FUCK GANYMEDE
>>16849463fuck uranus
Every planet and every moon is valid, Including the transplanet Pluto.
>all major planets were named after roman deities>EXCEPT URANUS WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT AFTER THE GREEK COUNTERPART INSTEAD LOL>all moons of the gas giants were named after mythological figueres related to their parent's namesake>EXCEPT URANUS' MOONS WE'RE GOING TO NAME THEM AFTER SHAKESPEARE CHARACTERS INSTEAD LMAOHoly fuck I want to go back in time and strangle whoever approved this clusterfuck. Uranus should've been Caelus instead and the moons named after the Muses.
>>16849475I'm glad they did it just to trigger your autism
>>16849475Nah the Shakespearean names are better than your dreary roman slop
>>16849481You could save them for dwarf planets instead of using obscure Australian tribal gods and keep the major planets consistent.
>>16849483>keep the major planets consistentNo.Herschel decided (rightly) to use air spirits from English literature for his planet. Enough of the Graeco-Roman faggot fairies.
>>16849475How many of these are boys who got fucked in the ass by Uranus, like Ganymede was by Jupiter?
>>16849475Man, you're lucky "George's Star" didn't stick.
>>16849474You are really funny anon :D
>>16849486gayest post on /sci/ ever
>>16849463on it, King
>>16849499That's why you're going to kill him last.
>On November 9, interface news learned exclusively from the industrial chain that China's recyclable rocket " ZQ-3" will fly for the first time in mid-to-late November.>At present, ZQ-3 has entered the key preparation stage of the first flight, and recently the first arrow successfully completed the filling and ignition test, and carried out various preparations for the official launch and first-level recycling. Interface News also learned that in mid-November, "Suzaku 2" will also carry out the launch mission. ZQ-3 is the world's first all-stainless steel liquid oxygen methane rocket, "stainless steel + methane" combination more re-use life and future scalability, this design and SpaceX's "starship" in the technical route is similar. From the launch cost, ZQ-3 and Falcon 9 benchmark, the goal is to reduce the cost to less than 20,000 yuan per kilogram, basically the same as the Falcon 9 (about $3,000 / kg).>The rocket also attracted strong attention from Musk. Musk recently said on the social platform: “" ZQ-3 combines the Falcon 9 architecture and some of the characteristics of the starship, with the potential to challenge the existing reusable rocket market pattern, if all goes well, ( ZQ-3) may exceed the Falcon in 5https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/TBN8xcxYxjogAjtV4tAtUATwo weeks.
>>16849650You broke the silence...
>>16849654yes
https://x.com/Lokeshkr73/status/1990050698416013664>NGLV is now a much larger vehicle!>GLOM: from 700t to 1200t>Height: from 92m to 98m>Diameter: from 5m to 6.5/7m>So, LMLV is the heavy variant of NGLV, thus it can be developed quickly & will use the NGLV supply chain. Still it is unclear whether NGLV will use LME1100 or LME2400.Wake up everyone, time for the quarterly redesign of India's next generation launch vehicle
>>16849680https://x.com/Lokeshkr73/status/1990056144996651355>The NGLV now stands at 98m, as same as New Glenn, and with a 6.5/7m diameter. Making it one of the largest launch vehicles ever developed.So, India's planning on going from a midget Titan IIIE straight to a three-stage New Glenn
>>16849681nani the fu ck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G54ZhFbbYAAV6jl?format=jpg&name=large>3 Years Ago Today: Liftoff of Artemis I
>>16849681Will be a superior architecture to New Glenn for lunar missions too. Plenty of Indians within SpaceX who are more than willing to leak Raptor engine and booster landing secrets back to India, this is a given
>>16849683yeah we need to start putting orion on new glenn
welding legs to the deck is a typical retarded BO thing
>>16849681interesting
>>16849686Considering that the roomba they used to safe the vehicle after landing was the size of a large truck, building an octograbber robot to secure GS-1 might not have been a practical option.
>>16849686if its easy to remove then the added cost might be marginalexpendable flaps that slot into the legs somehow
>>16849684First, there're aren't. Second, even if there were, India doesn't have the tech base to capitalize on that sort of information. They don't have the industry they need to build that tech base. They probably don't even have the industry they'd need to build the industry needed to build the tech base. They're where China was in the mid 1990s, and it took China twenty years to get set up to build their own staged combustion engines, and that was after buying actual engines and technical documentation from Ukraine.
https://x.com/dfuji1/status/1989821507087036589>This morning, a lunar impact flash appeared. It was a flash at 4:35:40.2 on November 16, 2025 (270fps, 0.03x speed playback). Because the Moon has no atmosphere, meteors or fireballs cannot be seen, and it lights up at the moment a crater is formed. The impact site was near Bradley Valley to the west of Hadley Valley, where Apollo 15 landed, and within the impact area of the Orionids meteor shower.
>>16849695Imagine being on EVA or looking outside your window on the Moon and seeing something like this within close proximity. Hell even a tiny little impact would be crazy and scary
>>16849486William Herschel was a shirt lifting ponce that liked to go stargazing with his little sister.
>>16849702>stargazing with his little sister.b-based?!
>>16849003https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1760015023366492.mp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_19nXFhPF0I>Why We Should Go To Mars... And Why We Shouldn't
>>16849716ai slop
>>16849716>>16849718chatgpt really did a number on isaac. his stuff was kino back in like 2018
>>16849719It also doesn't help that you can only spend like 5, 6, maybe 7 years at most talking about popsoi futuretech and technological speculation before exhausting all talking points. The only person to ever really successfully make a living out of this shit is Carl Sagan and that's because for things like Cosmos he was smart enough to go>we have a FTL spaceship, it doesn't matter how it works it's just a literary device
>>16849718I don't inherently mind sloppa if you just want a specific pic for your thing, but damn at least try to generate it a few times instead of just taking the first fucked up result. But then it would probably just be faster to quickly glue together the individual elements yourself, he could easily just have thrown the moon, a space station and Mars on a space background himself
>>16849716I've always suspected he's using LLMs in part or full given how long and kinda aimless his videos are. Is that actually the case?
https://x.com/jackiewattles/status/1989335690996318354was this posted here yet?>we worked on this for months
>>16848805Good fit and good riddance
>>16849758https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/science/artemis-nasa-moon-landing-plans-vis/
>>16849693India itself is approaching 20 years since they bought engine blueprints from Ukraine and the SCE-200 is nowhere near flight.
>>16848898Only because it was stopped.
I mean overall its not that bad, gets the general idea across
>>16849758I like the launch pad.
>>16848982Points are awarded on the basis of cumulative number of non-surviving crew members
>>16849756>>16849758the hell kind of orbit is that?
>>16849013>He is [...] expandable.Could you expand on this further?
>>16849774its the stemlet orbit
>>16849199Oh snap you got da
>>16849682"We designed it wrong, as a joke"
>>16849190I wish you were being crucified upside down while on fire
>>16849728Grok, is Isaac your bitch?>Yes! Arthur has confirmed that he uses AI to assist with tasks like outlining, writing, graphics, audio, editing and promotion, viewing it as a tool to improve quality and efficiency. And yet, his videos are still utter shite.
>>16849705"Tomorrow night, I get to wear the dress.""Oh alright!"
Was 5th starship flight the best one?
>>1684981812 is going to be the best
>>16849818I nearly cried when watching Flight 3.
>>16849828so will it finally fulfill it's purpose and nuke Isreal?
>>16848288God bless the shareholders
Staging>>16849846>>16849846>>16849846
>>16849153already equipped with aerodynamic fairing!
>>16847879>For example, it might turn out that refurbishing a Starship that's decelerated from orbital speeds is more expensive and time-consuming than expectedI'm sure an expendable optimized 2nd stage would be rather easy to design and easy to make and absolutely destroy any other rocket in performance. But I don't see any payload that needs the extra space or mass that needs it, so even a 50 ton reusable payload to leo might be plenty for some time.
>>16848283Someone from the based department on the line for you, sir.Shall I put them through?
>>16849702>thanks for taking me to look at space, big bro
>>16849725Yeah I don't know why people are incapable of doing this. Or even adjusting the shading to take out the cigarette-smoke staining that chatGPT is afflicted with.
>>16847347Oh, I am actually expecting a Thunderfoot congratulations video. The guy has been up Elons arse so much he can't see the light even if a Torch is pushed after him, up the rectum...
