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None of this shit is real.
All of it is made up.

>There is a strange and up quark or something and a
How was this even observed in the first place
>Well I have this big machine and we have our theories and ... can you excuse me for 1 second....
All of it is made up only atoms are real the rest is made up and fake like dinosaurs.
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get filtered
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>>16848864
Keep on believing literally made up bullshit with no proofs idiot!
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>>16848850
so many particles but they still haven't found the consciushnesh particle
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>>16848870
Wait for 11 more marvel movies then they will """""discover""""" 50 new particles and discover the 5 infinity stones in there also.
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What do yo upeoepl expect scientists are retards and you all are listening to retards in wheelchairs making up bullshit.

>Black holes are real
>Nothing can escape a black hole not even light
>No wait they all glow and are indistinguishable from stars
>No wait they emit magical retard in a wheelchair radiation!
>No wait...
It is unreal how made up this cult shit is.
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>>16848850
The theory is so far ahead of any meaningful experimental results that they are really starting to look insane. Does the world really need thousands of cosmologists? I can understand maybe having a hundred or something. If light speed travel is impossible then going anywhere in space to verify any of this stuff is actually real is never going to happen.
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>>16849009
>. If light speed travel is impossible then going anywhere in space to verify any of this stuff is actually real is never going to happen.
I understand the sentiment however even using basic math.

>. If light speed travel is impossible
Lets assume light speed is not a barrier.
Lets assume that we have a magical engine who needs no fuel and can accelerate forever.
Humans can withstand 10m/s acceleration.
To reach light speed
299 792 458 m/s /10
29 979 245 s
or
499654 minutes
or
8327 h
or
346 days

And this ignores the fact that the faster you go the more deadly small dust particles in space get if you collide with them.

And even if you magic yourself to light speed the distances are measured in light years. This means you will need to wait 4 years to get to the nearest star.

Modern science is literally made up bullshit about a fantasy that you will never achieve. Unless we get the magic ability to magically teleport ourselves 10 light years in any direction using FTL jump drives.
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>>16848850
It's because the useful science is not civilian and so as time passes, academia has to make up more and more bullshit to cover up this fact
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>>16849022
I was think more like warp speed travel I guess. Sending messages back to earth from across the galaxy could be an even bigger problem really.
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>>16849032
>I was think more like warp speed travel I guess
And the people traveling at warp speed can prevent death from acceleration above 10 m/s how?????

>Bending space
That reduces distances not speed. So 10 light years become 5 light years of travel if you /2 the distance and you still have the same acceleration problem I did show.
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>>16849029
>the useful science
There never was any useful science.
Science was always making up bullshit no one can prove.

>The sun is made out of ghosts this is how it works GHOSTS!
Is a 100% scientific theory.

Science is only natural philosophy. And philosophy is making up shit with no evidence. It was always like this it is literally a popularity contest whose bullshit gets popular and whose not!

However most people did grow up indoctrinated into all this science shit of multiple galaxies and star trek levels of talking about other planets and all these bullshitium quarks. And even electrons and protons.
All of this shit is literally made up with no evidence!
How the fuck can you see any of that or detect it? Like how? That is not even possible!

This is why they are retconing electrons now.

Old age:
>Atoms are indivisible balls that stick together

New shit
>Actually it is protons and neutrons in the core and electrons orbiting like planets
And you did see this how? You have a magical camera that can operate with magic particles smaller then atoms?
>THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!
LOL
>Actually electrons are not orbiting anything they are a magical cloud of probability that we can not detect and
How the fuck do you know electrons are even real?

>Muh smashing atoms
Ok remind everyone how this works exactly?
So you build a magic machine that smashes atoms together in the 1930s presumably.

You smash 2 atoms together and can see this in the 1930s by some magic... a magic 1930s camera that sees exactly how it looks how atoms smash together.

WTF do you see there exactly and how the fuck do you filter this out from all the other shit that is going around?
>The theory of the atom was developed
Look no answers from the clown brigade!
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>>16848850
There is no evidence that subatomic particles even exist, and yet we are supposed to believe that they keep discovering all these sub-subatomic particles like the higgs-bozo?
> atoms have a nucleus with positively charged protons tighly compacted together
>but wait, I thought like charges repel?
>uhhh... There must be some force holding them together for some reason
>can I see it?
>n... No.
And on it goes, as they make up more and more bullshit to explain away the previous bullshit. The material universe is an illusion. Atoms are hollow vortices of motion in the aether.
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>>16851588
read your post until i got to the final sentence
>Atoms are hollow vortices of motion in the aether.
yeah ok, take your meds schizo. jk, but you can’t substantiate what you’re saying. how do you even measure motion at the atomic level?? what exactly is hollow? aether??
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>>16851992
I agree while anti science is true (questioning the made up nonsense of science) it is full of quacks who will pull out of their ass their own unproven nonsense.

The truth as I have discovered is that atoms are the final limit, essentially magic balls who do what they do.

Some of them can do weird things however there is no proof after this.

>Muh nukes
Oh so you detonated a nuke under your magic microscope and did observe what every atom did? The magic microscope also emits magic smaller then atoms particles for this observation to be possible however you essentially having a microscope that is 100% made from adamentium and functions is the real star here.

At best you get something like protons and neutrons and no electrons for all the fusions and fissions. However most of it is made up shit.
There is no evidence of electrons and there can be a unlimited number of theories who explain atomic fusion and fission. Maybe a model of 3 subatomic particles? 4? 19?

All is possible in a theory and it explains the effects the same.
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>>16848850
>How was this even observed in the first place
quarks are not seen, they are a model and in the model itself they are never isolated. Heisenberg himself came up with them, he proposed two quarks as the building blocks of the particles known in his day, neutron, proton and these meson and pion particle types
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>>16853846
>No evidence of electrons
lmao what. What the fuck is a cathode ray tube then you nigger. This board is full of the most retarded people I have ever come across. Our entire civilization is run on the movement of electrons, yet they don't exist. All our chemistry works because of electrons, but nope, instead we have this rhode scholar here that knows better.
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>>16849048
trumpanzee geepeetee
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>>16848850
It's kabbalah krap. kaku admits it.
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>>16849048
>I am too ignorant and retarded to open a book of any kind, therefore all knowledge is fake and gay and I am brilliant.
stunning arguments jamal
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>>16853963
anon, stop trying to educate subhuman schizophrenic retards. its a waste of your energy.
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>>16854359
>It is written in a book so it must be true!
Is this your argument?
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>>16854078
>>No evidence of souls
>lmao what. What the fuck is a cathode ray tube then you nigger. This board is full of the most retarded people I have ever come across. Our entire civilization is run on the movement of souls, yet they don't exist. All our chemistry works because of souls, but nope, instead we have this rhode scholar here that knows better.

Read this you angry fagot and see f this makes any sense.

>IT works because of electrons because the science indoctrination tells me so
This is you.

>have this rhode scholar
YES. And here is something I outrank you with regardless how many hours you did spend on watching Neil deGrasse Tyson .

Luminiferous Aether:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

If this was 130 years ago you call me a retard for questioning the Aether because
>How can you question the existence of the Aether !
>If all radio waves are only possible because of the vibration of the Aether medium!

WTF happened to the Luminiferous Aether? Was the science not settled?
And your cult of ignorance (AKA science) can literally only exist because because it keeps you retards ignorant. They did never teach you about the Luminiferous Aether and how science was telling you made up bullshit that later was thrown out. You can only bully the weak and ignorant since if they feel something is wrong with your "anti-proton black holes of the multiverse" you slam them with your cult indoctrination, yet the facts stay the same science makes up bullshit (named a theory) then it wastes everyone's time with this made up bullshit and then it changes its bullshit or discards the old bullshit.

You wasted your life on NATURAL PHILOSOPHY(the real name of science) you fool!
Maybe try a different branch of philosophy next time that makes bullshit up about other things.

1/2
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>>16854494
>>16854078
2/2

>What the fuck is a cathode ray tube
What about it?
There clearly is a effect.

However what creates it exactly?
>MUH ELECTRONS!

No one buys this crap. Magically the are orbiting moons around the atomic core yet they are not yet you did see them.
With what exactly? a micro-electron microscope who fires micro electrons who are smaller then electrons themselves?

It is incredible how aggressive you cultist retards get once you question your magic balls of made up bullshitium (electrons)
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>>16854495
You must not understand electromagnetism, have you never seen a Teltron tube? we know that the component particles of a cathode ray have mass, we know they carry a fundamental unit of charge, and their m/z ratio is much smaller than any atomic nuclei. Cathode rays are only consistent with the theory of electrons.
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>>16854493
sorry, I dont argue with inbred retards.
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>>16854529
anon stop using these basic facts and fancy jargon, youre going to make the monkey brain schizophrenic very upset.
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>>16854529
>we know
A word used by retards.

>electromagnetism
How you do not die from cringe using such a retarded word can only be attributed to hardcore indoctrination.

>Teltron tube
What about it?

> the component particles of a cathode ray have mass
It is like I am listening to absolute retards.

>have mass
From where you retard? Where is the proof?
>my glow glow in circle light bulb
And you prove that this is mass or electrons even how?

Did you measure the mass or something? How? You used a scale or?
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>>16854537
>If questioned on my bullshit I stop debating
Priceless. Science every time.
And when scientists and other science fags cry why science will be removed from schools they can only blame themselves.
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>>16854564
LMAO ok cletus so what do you propose is making the electrical appliances in your house run? magic jesus juice? please enlighten us with your clearly advanced understanding of physics and the universe.
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>>16854569
>cletus
I accept your unconditional surrender.

>o what do you propose is
Seriously talking to you is like talking to an ape. You have no capability for thinking.

Let me demonstrate
I ask how the fuck you can say that electrons have mass where is the proof.
You respond by ignoring this and going full
>u propose is making the electrical appliances in your house run? magic jesus juice?
And you are unable to think.

Like demonstrated countless times scientists are retarded. 130 years ago it be
>How can you question the existence of the Aether !
>If all radio waves are only possible because of the vibration of the Aether medium!
>What makes you think that light and radio waves exist then!

So going back you subhuman ape what is the proof that electrons have mass.
I fucken can not wait for that one!

All you have is indoctrination of other cultist idiots saying
>We know that <insert absurd statement here>

Your bullying will not help here only expose your retardation more.
So for the last time provide the proof of electrons having mass.
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>>16854564
Are you asking for evidence of the mass of an electron?
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>>16854574
>Are you asking for evidence of the mass of an electron?
YES!
For the last time YES!

>Are you asking for evidence of the mass of an electron?
You realize that talking to you is like talking to a 5 year old who can not follow simple questions?
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>>16854575
>For the last time YES!
Just for electrons or for electron currents as a whole? Not the same poster.
Its a relevant question because people didnt always talk about electrons, and more like a continous stream of electric charge with no particles.
Just trying to gauge what the disagreement here is.
What do you think electric charge is? What do you think electric current is?
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>>16854576
sorry, i meant, for electric currents as a whole.
Electric currents have been known since the 18th century, before anyone theorized the existence of an electron. Do you agree with that at least?
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>what is millikans oil drop and jj thompsons cathode ray tube experiments
theres your proof OP, thats how the mass of an electron was derived. too bad you have no idea who these people are, and even if you tried to read a dumbed down wiki article and understand how an experiment works your "brain" would short circuit so its easier to just call everything fake and gay. remember to take your meds and get some sleep, youre starting to meltdown.
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>>16854578
You should learn to be humble. There's so much we don't know and can never know about the world. Particles are just creations of our consciousness, not real things which float out there.
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only you exist
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>>16854584
Cognito ergo sum bitch
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>>16854576
>Just for electrons or for electron currents as a whole? Not the same poster.
Try to answer both.

>What do you think electric charge is? What do you think electric current is?
That is a invalid and childish question that exposes why science is wrong.

>Then out of what is the sun made if not out of ghosts?
This is you. So crippled by uncertainty you believe every schizo and his made up lies.
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>>16854577
>Electric currents
Depends how you define them.
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>>16854578
>and jj thompsons cathode ray tube experiments
I like you to explain this one.

>No explaining anything accept my bullshit or I call you dumb.
SCIENCE everyone!

>Experiment
Is this a "thought experiment" ?
AKA "being a retard and confusing yourself in your own head"?

PS: All you can read on this subject is comical they simply jump to made up clonclusions out of nowhere.
Some form of mental retardation and schizophrenia is needed to be a scientist. Science the garbage of humanity everyone.

PS2: I still can not get over how retarded these scientists are with their small light bulb and wooden shit.
>Like blue light thing bends
So you made a different form of light?
>[angry schizophrenia]
>No it bends to magnets and
So different light?

>MUH ELECTRONS!
How the fuck did you observe them you dumb shit!
You are literally showing me ~2mm diameter glowing light beam in your wooden crap! Are electrons 2mm in size you dumb shit!?
>[angry schizophrenia]
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And like magic all science fags run away.
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>>16854601
>That is a invalid and childish question that exposes why science is wrong.
This is not childish. I'm trying t gauge what level of idiocy you are on. Do you deny electric currents and charge or just electrons?
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>>16856201
>This is not childish
It is.
It is something a small child would say or a extremely retarded adult.

Funny how you can not take criticism and exposing of your mental illness.

>Do you deny electric currents and charge
Define what electric charge and curent even are here.
Funny how this is also something beyond science.

>Umm newton was wrong about gravity
>However we will also name the new theory gravity
>Newton was never wrong about gravity!

Therese are the retarded games scientists (hopefully) play.
The other alternative is that they are actually this level of mentally ill.
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>>16856806
>Define what electric charge and curent even are here.
Lol wot? Even the ancient Egyptians would agree with the existence of charge and current. The ancient greeks understood it too. Rub cat fur on amber. They both behave differently. That behavior is called static electricity. This is explained by charge. Current is simply moving charges.
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>>16856817
>Lol wot?
I see no definition I win by default.

>Tell me if you accept X?!
>I will not tell you what X even is
You lost.

>Egyptians would agree
And the ancient Egyptians did think the sky was a solid dome made of copper.
Great company you keep science man!

>That behavior is called static electricity
WOW now you keep on assuming shit I see.

>This is explained by charge. Current is simply moving charges.
Do you even realize what a load of shit this is.
You just jumped 3 times in your incoherent ramblings.
What discount theology university did produce you?
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>16856828
You can do better. Your trolling is too obvious. Got a (you) from me tho so fair is fair.
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>>16856843
Unbelievable what levels of meltdowns you fucks have.

Literally wrong about everything and to fucked in the head to realize it.

>Herp derp your saying is heresy
>consensus consensus consensus!
>Help these idiots voted on the different theory I lost consensus damn you academia!
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based babbling schizo retard thread.
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you know how in 3d graphics,
if you stack two textures on top of each other they flicker?
and the flickering is based on frame time, camera orientation etc?

I think a process like that could explain the apparent randomness of the quantum.
Just saying.
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how does a cathode ray tube even work? most be magic and not this electron lie.
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>>16848850
You are a dumb monkey and you build this actively powered ring of magnets in a vacuum to accelerate the discharge from an electron beam vaporizing a target.

You use the properties of multiple different semi-conductors to analyze the resulting measurements of these emissions. Then you modulate the magnetic fields confining the accelerated particles to identify key resonances that might align with current field theories.

You build a bigger machine and then notice the emissions not only get more intense, but there are new emissions that you hadn't recorded before. Then you must consult theory and see if anyone has predicted a particle with the same energy and mass as what you have seemed to observe.
In no way is any of it rock solid, OP is right. The bullshit PHD holders that pretend to be scientists when all they're doing is mild engineering and a ton of applied math is genuinely appalling in this world. and IMO a direct cause of the replication crisis. Like, double slit experiment is always touted around as proof of some photon behavior, yet its very rare to see someone actually explain the experimental setup in detail let alone how single photon emissions are made
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>>16858610
>We detected electron! Undeniable proof!
>Actually a electron is a cloud of probability and can not be detected
Try to square that one!

>Look cathode ray tube undeniable proof
Of what?
>umm stop asking questions!
Are electrons 1mm in size?
>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!
What did you detect there?
>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!
No seriously where is your proof of tiny balls that orbit a nucleus or whatever the new self contradicting theory is now
>REEE you are stupid I am not longer answering you!
>I am so mad that I will not even quote your posts!
>That will show you!
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>>16858445
This is your brain on science and quantum shit.
You fags can not even prove subatomic particles exist however you preach out of your ass that there is quantum shit.

>The quantum strangeness
Fun fact this is all made up
>b-b-b- book says
Yes there are lies in books congratulations on having a IQ under 40l
>b-b-b- book says
It is all made up. How was this even observed?
Using some magic wood shit that emits sub quantum particles?
Can anyone see that thing? Or repeat this magic experiment?

Oh wait it was a fake experiment a made up lie of a schizo AKA thought experiment.

Fun fact atoms are the last barrier everything else is literally a lie it is impossible to measure anything sub atomic not only because you now magically need another particle smaller then the one you are observing however because nothing on this scale can be measured on this planet because of geology. You see there are tiny earthquakes occurring non stop you can confirm this with a Seismometer yourself.

However magically when the magic scientists use their magic machines to measure things smaller then atoms these earthquakes stop. Because this is cultist bullshit that belongs in a religion not in schools.
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>>16849048
Science is useful in that people can use the models to create accurate predictions of what things will do with a given input, and this allows them to create machines such as the one you made this post with. If a model works for a given context it is valid, which is why Newton's laws are still taught in schools despite breaking down at smaller scales (because for most applications those smaller scales don't matter and Newton's laws create accurate enough predictions)
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>>16859661
>despite being wrong it is useful to lie to children
This is your mind on the science.
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>>16857420
True, science is pretty schizo. They literally believe space and time are things, that space and time can be bent, that a wave can exist without a medium, that dualities exist, and that everything is reducable to small bits of matter.
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>>16859888
*reducible
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>>16859661
>and this allows them to create machines such as the one you made this post with
WRONG! That is a lie of science.
>b-b-b- the technology you have
Has nothing to do with science.
That is engineering a method directly opposed to science!

> will do with a given input
Another lie this is not how science works.
If you disagree please use the E=mc^2 to calculate the explosion radius of an atomic bomb.... explosion of anything???
OH LOOK 100% useless.

This is why the fucken military needed to literally place tons of TNT and explode it and then compare the explosion radius to atomic blasts radius .

This is why megatons of TNT is a real measurement however your science shit is not!

>will do with a given input
> Newton's laws
Ah yes the peace of garbage known as newton.
Lets grant his silly assumptions despite most of them being literally impossible and needing 100s of pages of copium to work in the real world.

>at smaller scales
Ah not even talking about that.
Calculate me the trajectory of a canon ball with newtons shit.
I wait.
How about the trajectory of a plane when the engines are stopped.
I wait.

OH LOOK. Newtons shit looks like a toddler wrote this shit with crayons.

>>at smaller scales
Oh no need lets talk about every action has a opposite and equal reaction.
That means that literally no motion is possible because this is what EQUAL AND OPPOSITE actually mean.

Now I can not wait for your 100s of pages of copium to make newtons catchphrases be even valid in our reality.

Newton was a raging rich idiot in a university who wanted to be remembered so he made up trash and ridiculous theories like his theory of gravity and pushed his shit to indoctrinate gullible idiots. This is why you fucks keep praising this retard to this day.
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>>16859888
>that a wave can exist without a medium
This.
It made sense if you did have the aether theory however after abandoning aether....

>Wave particle duality!
That literally makes no sense whatsoever!

>that space and time can be bent
Check out why they believe this.

>Old bearded idiot who writes on paper under candle light says.
>Light always travels in a straight line and can never be bent
>Proof? I only looked at candles my entire life!
>I looked at shit loads of candles! So proven!
This like in every religion becomes unquestionable dogma.
Everyone makes this consensus and like in a christian Vatican council they vote to make it dogma.

Oh look there is something going on there.
So maybe light can be bent under strong enough gravity....
>[scientists literally pisses and shits himself]
>>THAT CAN NOT BE TRUE!
>[scientists without realizing it is making his non bending light dogma a unquestionable dogma of his religion]

>>Wew the Prophet Einstein made up OUT OF NOWHERE that space is bent by gravity
>Yes I feel better now!
This sounds ridiculous can it not be that photons
>[scientists literally pisses and shits himself]
>NOOOOOO
>[scientist basically thinks this theory OF BENDING LIGHT is heresy]

WE ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT a un ironic and honest to life
If the prophet did not come to the mountain the mountain did come to the prophet thinking.

>Look there is literally no way to prove what is correct here however my theory sounds less nutty and you only have something Einstein pulled out of his ass to keep old dogma made up by people who literally only worked with candles and we....
>[scientists literally pisses and shits himself]
>NOOOOOO
>CONSENSUS CONSENSUS HELP ME SCIENCE!
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>ITT: mentally broken 12 IQ schizophrenic has a perpetual meltdown and screams at a brick wall
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>>16858703
>>16859975
Lol you need to learn more about what you are talking about. I agree with you that science is retarded and a lot of people lack the critical thinking skills to question something just because "muh science," but science still does have utility.

You should understand that we don't use smaller particles to identify other subatomic particles, we actually use electromagnetic fields to interact with them. You could argue "what the hell are these electromagnetic fields if I can't see them," which I respect, but just understand that they are just some natural "thing" that we noticed decided to call an electromagnetic field.

You should also know that theories are not just spewed out of someone's ass, but come from high-level mathematical rigor and is built off of the knowledge of other people. It is not just some virgin retard alone in a room postulating, but rather a virgin retard talking to other virgin retards. Eventually, they come up with a theory about some natural phenomena, then they test it in real life to verify whether it is true or not.

I am an Orthodox Christian, so I understand where you are coming from. Science, just like religion, is expressed through a metaphorical language and we call it math. Science also requires faith as it is impossible for a mere human to truly understand every single piece of science, so we have to rely on other people and models in order to get anything done.

There is a lot of bullshit in the science community and pop-culture that pisses me off as well (we are just atoms bro so im gonna goon and smoke weed all day brooo), so I get you for real.
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>but science still does have utility.
It literally never did.
It literally always was not different from religion.
Literally natural philosophy and making shit up.

>You should understand that we don't use smaller particles to identify other subatomic particles,
Then what is used?

>we actually use electromagnetic fields to interact with them
What exactly do you use?
DO not go short on the details.

> but just understand that they are just some natural "thing" that
Talking like an idiot will get you nowhere.
You can shove up your magic things that exist up your own ass.

Magnetism is real so are electric fields. Why the fuck do you think that I have a problem thinking things that are invisible are not real?
Magnets?!

>we actually use
Aha Aha Aha.
Now explain how the fuck can you detect these subatomic particles while we all exist on a planet because earth quakes are real!

>You should also know that theories are not just spewed out of someone's ass
They literally do come out of someones ass.
If you disagree explain WTF happened to the aether theory.

>but come from high-level mathematical rigor
Mathematics translates here to basic school math. Did you idiots ever look at scientific formulas? They literally look like something a retarded toddler would write. Like simple proportions and X*Y = Z ???? like fore real?

Not something like
45364.4567 * X * 4576777.7777 * Y = Z
? Or something that goes beyond math since you actually need to do if else statements of programming not the limited and simplistic way math works?

> so I get you for real.
No you actually do not.

> but rather a virgin retard talking to other virgin retards.
Congratulations! So some prophet idiot convinces other idiots in his club that he is correct.

WTF did you think when I ridiculed the idea of consensus and literally stated that science need consensus to function? And that other heretical or unpopular positions get pushed out?

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> so I get you for real.
No you actually do not.
>I am an Orthodox Christian
I am an atheist.
The point of atheism is to reject dogma and see the truth.
Science is exactly like every religion.
Superstitious idiots who literally are unable to think and shout at one another and excommunicate one another making up bullshit on top of other bullshit that some guy made up.

Even if we grant the most basic assumptions of science or newton it is still questionable
>Dude a object in motion will stay in motion!
Did you just prove a negative?
>Dude a object in motion will stay in motion!
Proof?! Because on earth they all stop so...
>Yes dude like in space in the void they will move forever
You self contradict!
other gravitational objects will eventually stop this ball
>Oh yea however if they did not exist then
Is this even our universe at this point? And what proof do you have? Because all motion can decay however it is over such a long time and distance that we can not measure it.
Sure if we grant this unproven assumption
>HERESY!
>HERETIC!
>ALL HAIL THE GREAT PROPHET NEWTON!
Basically ass pulled garbage since both theories of eternal motion and motion that decays over a extremely long time are equally valid.

Also a void can not exist and the interstellar medium also has gas and dust particles who will eventually stop any object traveling in it.

Taking any of this garbage seriously or as some religion is foolish.

After that it gets even more nutty until we get to Einsteins toddler theories of
>If I close my eyes the universe stops existing around me!

Basically the ass pulled space time to explain light bending.

It is this picture with over 20 assumptions and ass pulled theories in one big chain. Even if there was a a choice between 2 paths you end up with 2^20 possible outcomes.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penning_trap

This is how we currently measure electron mass. It suspends a particle to in a vacuum so it is earthquake proof. We can't measure the mass of an electrical current as it is a process, not matter. It is like asking "how can I weigh water flow?" You wouldn't be weighing the flow, but rather the water.

Again, I actually find your posts hilarious and I am glad to see someone critiquing science. I agree with your implied point that the overton window of science is always changing and we should always question everything instead of taking whatever people say as gospel. But, do understand that there is a lot of utility in science. Whether that utility is good or bad is debatable.

Your point on blackholes was funny as shit, but models are always wrong. It took almost a century between Einstein's prediction and actually observing one, so of course our understanding was going to change. Also, that is why I said math is the metaphorical language we use to describe science. I say this because math (when describing reality), like a metaphor, is always somewhat incorrect but they are useful at sharing information.

The more I have learned about science, the more I have learned that we actually don't know jack shit and in 100 years, we will look back and think "wow we used to be so fucking retarded." I also believe that a lot of science is done to keep people as cattle. Most research is done to make consumerism easier, whether it is medical research to keep people alive longer to consume more mcdonalds, engineering to produce more goyslop, or statistics for mass surveillance, the end goal of science isn't to help people.

Our society no longer values traditional family values and a lot of people have joined the cult of scientism, where they have a materialistic paradigm that allows them to defend their hedonistic lifestyle. Pop-culture helps push this narrative and uses "science" as the one true way of thought.
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LOL you are an atheist, I too used to be one. Atheism requires faith in probability, do you truly think that we arrived here just by random chance? Particles bumping into each other? Christianity is in search of the truth as well. Your image is mocking protestantism, which I do not agree with. Orthodoxy is the way that Jesus taught and has been relatively unchanged since then.

I do not think you understand the quote "an object in motion will stay in motion."

The universe does not stop existing if you close your eyes. I think you should learn more about science if you want to properly argue against it.

Also, you are doing a terrible job trying to convince anyone about whatever idea you have. You are just spewing nonsense. I thought we agreed on the fact that science is stupid and wrong sometimes, but I guess you just hate anything philosophical.

I don't fucking know about aether theory, do you even know?

Also, mathematics is a lot more complicated than what you understand. Look into any engineering equation, grad-level statistics formula, or anything quantum and you will see that you are too ignorant. These equations are not just written on a paper from a toddler, but rather generated through application and proofs. Of course, math requires certain things to be assumed and understood, but math is way more than what you understand.

Scientists are not prophets that convince other retards, but they collaborate and test theories. 99 of theories are wrong and don't get good results, so then they adjust.

If you think consensus is bad, then tell me a better way to research knowledge. The scientific method is one of the best frameworks we have when it comes to knowledge. Note, I am not talking about how reddit views science, but the actual scientific method.
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Start with the basics, kid. No point larping about HEP when you'd be filtered by Newton's laws.



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