This giant of biology has recently passed at the age of 97. What's the verdict? Gifted pioneer of scientific inquiry or scheming, bigoted plagiarist? There is no middle ground.
>>16852678>Gifted pioneer of scientific inquiry>scheming, bigoted plagiaristThose are teh same thing. Getting peak results in bleeding edge research means having brilliant ideas of your own and then combining it with brilliant ideas you inherited from the minds of the past as well as blatantly stole from your peers, and then leveraging all of your connections, nepotism and administrative scheming to elbow out a place in the sun for the produced chimera to thrive and garner attention.
>>16852680What about Newton? He just spouted.
>>16852678Didn't he steal Franklin work?
>>16852800Is that an earnest question? The short answer though is no, at least as far as I can tell. Franklin produced and analyzed some useful data that were passed on to Francis and Crick through a middleman and used in their own theories. Her own work was formally unpublished and it is debatable whether the awkward transfer from her to another scientist and then to Watson was appropriate or whether scientific ethics were violated. Watson himself apparently much later suggested that Franklin and the middleman should have been awarded the Chemistry prize and himself and Crick the Physiology and Medicine prize.So it was more of a mix-up/oversight, Franklin probably deserved more credit but it wasn't the deliberate shafting many seem to try to imply. Also no sexism involved most likely.
>>16852678He was an Epstein client.
>>16852678He was butchered
>>16855725From the Wiki [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson#Public_remarks_on_genetics,_intelligence,_and_race]: At a conference in 2000, Watson suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, hypothesizing that dark-skinned people have stronger libidos. His lecture argued that extracts of melanin—which gives skin its color—had been found to boost subjects' sex drive. "That's why you have Latin lovers", he said, according to people who attended the lecture. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English Patient."That's fucking hilarious lol. The West is done though honestly, you can't say anything anymore. Affirmative action/IQ denial policy started as far back as the 1970s in America and it's only gotten worse. They drove out Larry Summers like 20 years ago for just suggesting that *maybe* disparities in the STEM fields between the sexes could be *in part* due to non-systemic factors (temperament, innate ability). Gee I wonder why China is winning now eh.
>>16852683You will find that the world today is very different compared to the world in the 1600s
>>16856436>They drove out Larry Summers like 20 years ago for just suggesting that *maybe* disparities in the STEM fields between the sexes could be *in part* due to non-systemic factors (temperament, innate ability).No, the actual reason was likely that people needed an excuse to get rid of him, because he was awful to work with.Generally these things are never about "the thing" the person is guilty of, but internal politicking and bickeringRemember, the world of any given science is small, everyone knows everyone, with only one or two degrees of separation.
>>16856436>They drove out Larry Summers like 20 years ago for just suggesting that *maybe* disparities in the STEM fields between the sexes could be *in part* due to non-systemic factors (temperament, innate ability). Gee I wonder why China is winning now eh.China as well as other Commiestans have way the fuck more women in STEM than the First World academia even now with all the DEI bullshit. Not saying that's a good thing, but like, you're saying China's winning.
>>16852678Censored for speaking the truth about race. Like J. Philippe Rushton.
>>16858671Oh really? I've never heard anything bad said about him otherwise, he seemed pretty well-connected socially. It was just a bunch of female faculty screeching at him from what I recall.
>>16858723Well there are probably multiple factors at play - China is winning due for some other reasons and their preponderance of women in STEM could still be orthogonal or even detrimental.
>>16858723Additionally: Chinese women are probably smarter than White women lol
>>16858727Yeah that's my thinking (and sex differences too). There seems to be an effort in the West to shut down or silence "bad feels" science or whatever you want to call it, probably since at least the 1970s.
>>16860147You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Lots of times, these things are excuses to remove someone.
>>16860468It's possible. Do you have any idea what was going on exactly? That narrative doesn't really add up to me since it seemed pretty reactive (right after he gave the speech) and his career was fine afterwards for a while.
>>16852678Verdict:
>>16860488I don't get it
>>16860532Good.
>>16852678>telling other people they're dysgenic with that faceNo wonder he got cancelled.
>>16860534Oh are you just saying he's ugly
>>16860569The true alpha male is the intellectual. He understands looks are unnecessary to breed; power alone suffices, the power of science. Witness for example the Bene Tleilax.
>>16856436>a conference in 2000, Watson suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, hypothesizing that dark-skinned people have stronger libidos.Blacks and Arabs breed like crazy how is this even a question? It’s obvious. It’s so fucking obvious.
>>16860593That one does make him sound retarded because he picked the one thing most obviously sensitive to culture and environment.
>>16860483>Do you have any idea what was going on exactly?No, because I am not tuned into the economics field, but I know this sort of thing has happened in my field.
>>16860595Yeah that seems like an obvious candidate for third variable causation but it turns out he's actually right
>>16860603>it turns out he's actually rightHow can you even test this?
>>16860613Find a bunch of brown dudes, put them in a deep freeze, then check back in 9 months to see if they've managed to bud
>>16860622The only deep freeze here comes from the sub-zero sense your post makes.
>>16860595>he picked the one thing most obviously sensitive to culture and environment.So…….?
>>16860613It’s already being tested in real time. Look at how whites are faring numbers wise. Look at places like India. Look at how fast places like Palestine have boomed in the last fifty years.
>>16852678A hack who siphoned off of real researchers.Crick was the actual thinker of the pair and after DNA he did nothing of note but act as chairs in organizations and write a mid book. Every person I met who collaborated with him detested him, in the case of the women they also detested him because he would be creepy towards them.
>>16860676You can safely be disregarded as a liar and a faggot.
>>16860628Hah, ohhh (cold) snap
>there's no proof that darker skinned people have more sexThere's an overwhelming amount of evidence for it in fact
>>16862356This. Libtards scream that the sky is blue as is usual.
I will always say:“Do you really think biological variance stops once it reaches the brain”
>>16860732I have lied before, and I have been the OP before. But I have not lied about any of this, nor am I sucking the dick of a hack like you are.
Bump
>>16865144No, everything from the neck up is socially constructed.
>>16867716So why can’t we transplant heads?
he was retarded because he said this shit while representing institutions>t. boss was working at the place Watson was on the chair of or whatever when he said this shit
>>16852678Of course there's no middle ground. You picked two options that aren't even on the same ground. You might as well have said "Was he a mammal or a source of gravity? There is no middle ground".
>>16860598You have no evidence, just your n=1 in a completely different field but still think it's science to dump poison into the well so your ideological allies have an excuse for placing science under the boot of politics.
>>16865144>I will always say:>“Do you really think biological variance stops once it reaches the brain”And they will say:"Do you really think environmental influence stops once it reaches the brain"And then they have a more compelling case because there's a thousand intuitively plausible ways they can blame the environment while all you have is a vague, made up, pop-evo-flavored story.
>>16852678>>This giant of biology has recently passed at >>the age of 97. Why, goddess Hel, why? He wasn't even 107 years old! He was full of energy, knowledge and ideas!
