/k/ does not have smart people so I would like to make this thread here instead. What is the future of warfare for the next few hundreds / thousands of years? I had a very deep conversation with AI about this for hours and in a nutshell we had agreed it would come down to small fast mass produced missile drone swarms (launched from anything really) generally for offense and automatic laser turrets (mounted on anything) that would shoot them down generally for defense and nuclear weaponry lastly. But I am curious as to what other people have to say on the matter. Also yes you could use drones defensively and lasers offensively but it just wouldnt be as cost effective or it would just be for niche applications. I figure that certain things in physics could be abused that would shift the meta towards a certain type of weapon being used more than others and I wouldnt know what that would look like. Maybe even something like a black hole generator but i understand how impractical it is to make even the smallest black holes but just as an example.
The future will be that you create an explosion at your own base and then teleport the explosion to your enemies base. If teleportation doesn't exist then maybe put the explosion in a container and throw the container at the enemy and when they open the container they will die from the explosion in the container.
>>16852726so like red alert 2 kek
>>16852722>What is the future of warfare for the next few hundreds / thousands of years?Spears, primitive bows and bone knives seem quite likely and promising ATM.>a very deep conversation with AI Consider suicide desu.>we had agreed it would come down to small fast mass produced missile drone swarmsAnd if you had AI back in 1920s, it would say that it will come down to small fast mass produced tank swarms, because that was >hype at the time. Some countries bought into that hype and got gaped with their tankette armies during WWII. And if you had AI back in 1920s, it would say that it will come down to small fast mass produced strategic bomber swarms, because that was >hype at the time. And if you had AI back in 1970s...The whole thing is it's a competitive effort, current trends are unreliable. >missile drone swarms"Missile drone swarms" kinda defeats the point of drones. You can just use missiles at that point. FPV drones see so much use in the most recent conflicts specifically because they provide most of the advantages of missiles at a fraction of the cost. >automatic laser turretsLasers sucks as AA, there were many prototypes in the last half a century and the advantage over missile and artillery AA never materialized. More importantly - the main advantage that drones have over missile AA right now is that it's very easy and cheap to provide a small number of drones for support anywhere, much easier and cheaper than providing adequate missile AA defense against those small drones used on individual basis - you need many big and bulky and expensive launchers with relatively expensive missiles to provide air cover for your units against even minimal number of drones, some of which will still sneak through. If you use massive drone swarms then this kind of saturated missile AA suddenly becomes worth it, and also gains a ton of efficiency due to frag explosive missiles being really damn effective at hitting groups of fragile targets.
>>16852722Impossible to predict what AI warfare will look like even in 50 years.
>>16852722drone warfare is the future and present too, at some point the plane dropping them will also be a bigger transport air drone, or "truck" when flying isn't an optionyou see china's drone light shows? like that but coming to kill shit
>>16852722>>16852732nta, also explossives/emp to counter drone swarms
>>16852722the future is drone zerg, more or less
>>16852744>AIs enslaving humanity to fight each other in the Benchmark Wars
Fpv drones and the likes are cool and all, but it just becomes another form of guided munition. You can bomb things to smithereens but it does you no good if you can't capture and defend the land. Unless you're nuking things out of existence, conquering and defending land is the main objective of a war.Therefore Star Wars like drones will be hitting battlefields within the next few years. This industry will dominate defense and tech sectors. Corporations will try to add 'AI' to them, but unfortunately truly autonomous systems are far from reaching the point of replacing human decision making.A hybrid of AI-Human control will conquer lands for decades to come. It's already happening, and has been happening for a decade or so. But soon humans will be in land based firefights with machines.
Halo with drones
>>16852811US military already has technology that resembles stuff from Halo.Personal plasma weapons impractical due to power density but practical in tanks and aircraft.Exoskeletons already exist.
>>16852722Kids, get really good at video games and ditch digging because that will be your future. Hope you like camping and MREs.And video games, with consequences.
Future Chicken archæologists will find a fine layer of exploded lithium ions in the 2020-2170 date range.
>>16852793blackpill, look up how drone war is happening in ukr, drone pilots are literally the front line droneing eachother to death
>>16852811this one got the upvote from UK navy, which is kind of ridiculous to me, the jetpack we've known for all our lives is sort of better imo>but whybecause it requires no superhuman arms force, plus give it an extra twist and you're piloting it with those head devices that have existed for decades with ur brain power... just so you have your hands free to ahoot gun
>>16852813exos popped up like 7 years ago and haven't been seen in any war, part of the reason is cause US is only fighting proxy wars not with their own soldiers, but special troops with hexos and hyper bulletproof wear could do some bullshit
>>16852722Mass propaganda to brainwash entire cultures into becoming subservient.
>>16852837I've done extensive research into drone warfare through the abundance of footage from the Ukr-Russo war, just genuine interest in warfare/military.First thing, drone warfare is just a (not-so) new form of guided munition, as I've stated already. Guided munitions have been killing people for a long time already, they're just more accessible now.Second, the footage we have access to is just propaganda. The popular drone drops and fpv strike footage is a very small percentage of what has happened and is currently happening as we speak. That being said, and this is anecdotal, drone teams miss 80-90% of the drone drops and strikes, just as most bullets miss their targets in a gunfight. The 10-20% of hits we see on the internet is the best of the best. There's a ton of footage out there of drones completely wiffing their targets, or hitting near their targets, not killing their targets, etc. etc. But this footage is typically seen from the receiving end, and do not make the video montages published by drone teams, I mean why would it? This does not mean they are not effective. They are very effective, when they hit, and have changed the future of all warfare. But, the perceived effectiveness or lethality has been blown out of proportion.Last point, the Ukr-Russo war is NOT identical to what a near-peer conflict would look like. It almost began as one (since 2022), but the past x amount of years of a war of attrition is almost morphing the warfare into guerrilla warfare. Small scattered teams spread thin over a massive front facing an organized military. The military structure, command, manpower issues, internal fraud, etc. the Ukrainian military and country has had to deal with on top of an invading force in their country is the reason we see small drone teams dug in for months sending drones after drones to, mostly miss, their enemies.The Ukr-Russo war is not what a NATO vs Russia war would look like, or USA vs China, or whatever you can imagine.
>>16853043yeah I'm aware
>>16852732>"Missile drone swarms" kinda defeats the point of drones.AI made it extremely clear that overwhelming a enemy with drones attacking a person from every single direction was clearly the future because theres essentially no way to defend from that. As for cost you could min max that down to a fraction of what is used today if you made all the chips and manufacturing and explosives and materials from your own homeland, or even make it on site if you could scale down asic chip manufacturing plants to like a shipping container size. Also theres no reason for you to be rude but do as you wish.
