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https://x.com/booster_10/status/1991382949124796679
https://x.com/PLD_Space/status/1991483800358896048>Unveiling the first MIURA 5 launch vehicle qualification unit! This is the first qualification model (QM1) of our MIURA 5 orbital launch vehicle, designed to complete the validation of fully assembled subsystems ahead of flight:>Second stage After structural testing, this stage will be subject to a Destructive test to validate system´s Flight Termination System. >First stage Wet Dress Rehearsal at our own facilities of stage 1, validating the full stage feed system behaviour.>Full qualification of engines, avionics, interstage and fairing.>As part of our test-like-you-fly mindset, we’ll build three units in under five months to ensure maximum reliability for MIURA 5’s maiden mission in 2026, a clear demonstration that we move fast while maintaining the highest quality standards.
>>16852768where are they launching from?
Why are there no further Starlink launches scheduled or even listed as TBD?
>build >destroy>build >destroy>build>...
>>16852769The first launch is going to be out of Kourou, but they're exploring possible launch sites in Oman and the Canary islands.
>>16852778spacex is over
>>16852780>oman instead of india or kenya?????????
>>16852782Launching from India requires going to India. No serious group wants to do that. Keyna's better but not by much and the local government doesn't have any real interest in building a spaceport. Oman isn't exactly a top ten tourism destination, but the government in Muscat is trying to attract foreign (mostly Chinese) interest in the Etlaq spaceport project.
The government doesn't want you to know this, but you can launch over land just as easy as ocean..
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1991530359654346890>FSTSPACE, a company founded 2 months ago, is developing a rocket powered by 9 175t-thrust FFSC methalox enginesI am asking China to stop
New Glenn block 29 uprated BE-4, will be gradually improved from 250tf to 290tf (note: there already was a small increase on flight 2)10m wide aft on 7m stretched tanks4 BE-3U GS2Larger aerosurfaces>The vehicle carries over 70 metric tons to low-Earth orbit, over 14 metric tons direct to geosynchronous orbit, and over 20 metric tons to trans-lunar injection. >Additionally, the 9x4 vehicle will feature a larger 8.7-meter fairing(I imagine expendable payload, considering current reusable one is still at 25t)
>>1685280625 launches next year
>>16852806https://x.com/davill/status/1991538235609326013https://www.blueorigin.com/news/new-glenn-upgraded-engines-subcooled-components-drive-enhanced-performance
>>16852810
>The next chapter in New Glenn’s roadmap is a new super-heavy class rocket. Named after the number of engines on each stage, New Glenn 9x4, is designed for a subset of missions requiring additional capacity and performance. The vehicle carries over 70 metric tons to low-Earth orbit, over 14 metric tons direct to geosynchronous orbit, and over 20 metric tons to trans-lunar injection. Additionally, the 9x4 vehicle will feature a larger 8.7-meter fairing. >Both engines: 9x4 and our current variant, 7x2, will serve the market concurrently, giving customers more launch options for their missions, including mega-constellations, lunar and deep space exploration, and national security imperatives such as Golden Dome. NEW SUPER-HEAVY CLASS ROCKET
>>16852805Component tests by the same company>Huosheng Aerospace's 200-ton-class full-flow staged combustion cycle liquid oxygen-methane engine successfully completed its first hot-fire test of the scaled-down thrust chamber.>The test involved 14 ignitions with a total test duration of 60 seconds, with the longest single test lasting 10 seconds. This test evaluated the rationality of the injector design and combustion stability, as well as the reliability of the 3D-printed combustion chamber body, laying a solid foundation for subsequent engine development.>The 200-ton-class full-flow staged combustion cycle liquid oxygen-methane engine, independently developed by Huosheng Aerospace, will be used in the company's planned "Qitian-1" large reusable launch vehicle. The engine has a sea-level thrust of 175 tons, a sea-level specific impulse of 320 seconds, a weight of ≤1.9 tons, and a total height of ≤2.8 meters.https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5235181978126349
so current config is 7 engines on the first stage, 2 engines on the second stage and that the new variant that is going to be launched as well is9 engines on the first stage, 4 engines on the second stagewhy are they doing this? maybe the fears that the current new glenn is too big is just bullshit then
>>16852814Considering current New Glenn still only does 25t in reusable mode and this 9x4 "only" has 50% higher thrust I'm willing to bet 70t to LEO is in expendable mode, since they don't mention if it's in reusable or not."final" 7x2 new glenn is 38t to LEO in reusable per nasa's performance site, that would give reusable payload of 55-60t which fits with expendable one of 70t
>>16852806>>16852821Where does the 25t reusable figure come from? I don't find it on their website, only the 45t one. I assume the 45t figure is for expendable mode, but since they do downrange launch, why would that imply 25t reusable?
Unpopular opinion: Blue Origin is cool.
>>16852824Cool or not, additional launch providers are necessary
>>16852823>downrange launch*downrange recovery
>>16852823Berger said it last december and as far as I know it's still the real reusable performance, just wait until they announce kuiper sat number in a few months (since I doubt Blue Moon will be ready for the 3rd launch).They want to improve it to 38t reusable which is the real number they gave to NASA, 45t reusable is not possible with 7x2 new glenn.
>>16852810Wow, I wonder who they'll sue to improve engine performance
>>16852825>additional launch providersMay I see them?
>>16852832If the US had serious competition in the launch sector, then additional providers wouldn't be necessary
https://x.com/davill/status/1991544049095045367>Because you asked…
>>16852835nice
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/8011/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innospace_HANBIT-NANO>HANBIT-NANO (Korean: 한빛-나노) is a two-stage small-lift launch vehicle currently under development by South Korean space startup Innospace.[1]
https://www.blueorigin.com/news/new-glenn-upgraded-engines-subcooled-components-drive-enhanced-performance>The next chapter in New Glenn’s roadmap is a new super-heavy class rocket. Named after the number of engines on each stage, New Glenn 9x4, is designed for a subset of missions requiring additional capacity and performance. The vehicle carries over 70 metric tons to low-Earth orbit, over 14 metric tons direct to geosynchronous orbit, and over 20 metric tons to trans-lunar injection. Additionally, the 9x4 vehicle will feature a larger 8.7-meter fairing. This doubles ULA's best payload to geostationary orbit with with a third stage it can easily launch Orion to any potential lunar orbit you want to. This kills SLS.
>>16852835I hope it will have an optional third stage
>>16852850https://www.impulsespace.com/helios
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991539222935924749
total SLS death
>>16852814Why not just stick with 9? It's reusable
>>16852835It's almost as big as starship.
>>16852805the wire catch method is pretty based tho. I really want to see it in practice.
>>16852824Dave Limp is now Dave Erect
https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1991545182387626289
>>16852835Skinny rockets should be illegal. Start with a bigger diameter you lazy fucks
>>16852867It's the one really exciting new idea that's come out of Chinese reusable space launch.
>>16852873all rockets get longer throughout development. expect neutron to stop being a chode some time in 2027.
>>16852879Reminder Neutron's tanks are almost as wide as new Glenn's.Archimedes just really sucks, otherwise it would have a (long) path to Reusable Super heavy lift.
>>16852782Kenya I understand, but why go all the way to India? Anyway, I think the selection of launch sites has a lot to do with logistics, and any place eastwards has to either go around Africa or go through Suez (and maybe there's extra logistical challenges there). Wouldn't explain why Oman is a possible launch site.French Guiana and the Canary Islands are very natural launch sites in that regard.
>>16852863If stage 1 of Starship isn't reusable, then New Glenn will win.
>>16852806>8.7-meter fairingthats bretty cool, should have made it 9.01m though
>>168528968.7m is big enough for Vast's 7m station modules, and those are the largest monolithic commercial payloads that anyone is really thinking about right now.
>>16852900yeah, because no one was offering fairings that big so it was stupid to make payloads that big. Now that we have 8 and 9 meter fairings on the market do you expect companies to start building 13 meter payloads?
Ground has been broken on the new Space Shuttle mockup display in Downey California. Nick named "Inspiration", the full scale model was used by Rockwell back in the early 70s to promote its Shuttle design and afterward became a SoCal school field trip destination.
Visitors will once again be able to walk thru the open payload bay, for a real astronaut experience.
The new display will give SoCal TWO shuttles: Inspiration in Downey and the vertically displayed shuttle at the Science Center across from USC.So eat a dee Sen Ted Cruise.
>>16852863And it can actually deliver 100t to orbit.
>>1685291270, actually
>>16852908You should get to slide into the payload bay through that RS-25.
>>16852911the california science center is actually pretty stacked. It’s got a mercury capsule and a gemini capsule and an apollo capsule and a space shuttle.
Mexicans still mad at Musk.
>>16852918>70 times more than wankshipJeff 'Order of Magnitude' Bezos strikes again!
The Shut Down is over, and 12000 NASA employees are back on the job, playing with crayons with little children.“This low-tech activity is powerful because of its simplicity,” explains ETS Space Science Coordinator Brandi Stewart, “All you have to do is pick up a crayon, follow the easy number guides, and discover the stories that NASA satellites are telling us about our world and beyond.” Stewart added, "BTW -- I'm Trans -- if that matters!"
>>16852939that’s not new glenn so I don’t give a shit
>>16852939This is causing OCD people to kill themself.
>>16852919No. We have Shuttle Slide at home.>There are plans for a 45-foot slide that imitates the feeling of entering the atmosphere with a radiating orange glow, two sonic booms and the “S” turns a shuttle would make upon reentry.And crashing into the Los Angeles River like in The Core.
>>16852806Ummm SpaceXsissies? Our response??
>>16852953This is way more of an issue for SLS and Vulcan than it is Starship. If BO is serious about this then there is literally no reason for SLS whatsoever. NewGSH has SLS capability with a reusable first stage.Orion just found a new launcher
>>16852896Starship itself has a 8m wide payload clearance in its bay so 8.7m fairing can carry any starship payload.
In a week BO will reveal that they are going to make their own deep space capable capsule / service module and Orion will have to go get some rope
>>16852923It's just a little payback for the cartels and fentanyl and wetbacks.
>>16852960They've already announced they're doing a capsuleWhat I've heard is that it's ambitious however (likely deep space capable yes), and won't be ready this decade for sure, they've even considered buying starliner to have independent crew access as a stopgap measure, but that's somewhat unlikely IMO.
Redpill me on POLARIS Spaceplanes aerial refueling plans
>>16852812new armstrong is real!
>>1685295110/10 would get a wristband to ride multiple times
>>16852963Yeah I know they were toying around with the idea of Starliner, and working with Dreamchaser as well. And National Team 1.0 and their second SLD bid had oldspace partnership.I could be wrong but it seems like with the acquisition of David Limp, his modus operandi to Jeff has been>hey dude let’s limit and scale back working with these faggot oldspace companiesIDK if limp will be the savior they need, and BO is still oldspace-adjacent at this time. But Limp is infinitely better than how Bob Smith was running things
>>16852967It’s gay and retarded; there is your redpill, sir
https://x.com/davill/status/1991580894189261107>One week ago, we launched our second New Glenn mission. Today, "Never Tell Me The Odds" is back at LC-36 for refurbishment to prepare for its next flight!
>>16852958Xitter trannies are saying this can't carry Orion to NRHO.Three stage Glenn will be able to though.
>>16852974If NG9x4 can’t get Orion to NRHO then I don’t want to see anyone calling it a “super heavy” launcher
>>16852977It can't. 14 tons to TLI.Starship isn't a super heavy launcher by that metric either.
>>16852975Why is the middle engine cover different?
>>16852978Sorry 20 tons. Still not enough.You basically need a third stage if you want to avoid refueling.
>>16852977https://www.blueorigin.com/news/new-glenn-upgraded-engines-subcooled-components-drive-enhanced-performance>The vehicle carries over 70 metric tons to low-Earth orbit, over 14 metric tons direct to geosynchronous orbit, and over 20 metric tons to trans-lunar injection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle>A super heavy-lift launch vehicle (SHLLV) is a rocket that can lift a payload of 50 metric tons (110,000 lb)[1][2] to low Earth orbit according to the United States, and more than 100 metric tons (220,000 lb) by Russia.[3] It is the most capable launch vehicle classification by mass to orbit, exceeding that of the heavy-lift launch vehicle classification.
>>16852975>BO will achieve faster cadence than starshipnot even in my wildest dreams did I see that happening
>>168529789x4 has 20 tons to TLI. Maybe a bit more without the payload fairings etc.>>16852980or slap a Centaur in there
>>16852819>why are they doing this?more payload>>16852819>fears that the current new glenn is too bigit's looking more like raptor is too small
>>16852982SpaceX got their first stage working and operational status for your second stage takes a lot less time when you're not worrying about reuse. If Starship was just a big Falcon it'd have been fully operational months ago. What's really wild is that New Glenn's launch cadence is going to be leaving Vulcan in the dust. Tory is desperately hoping for 12 launches next year. Limp has 12 launches as New Glenn's expected minimum.
>>16852984>slap a Centaur in there...Damnit NASA, stop trying to murder astronauts!
https://youtu.be/65kPGCg4VFA?si=CGuIbABa4pvlflyp&t=4306JPL is beyond hope
>>16852990>Limp has 12 launches as New Glenn's expected minimum.Seems doubtful with the third booster not yet complete but we have no idea with the turnaround time for the 1st stage is either.
>>16852873Girth is more important than length.At least that's what my mother says.
>>16852873go back to naval design school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSKmtd9HqV8>OLM Destruction Continues! | Starbase Flyover Update 107
>>16852997In his interview with Berger he said that the pacing element was second stage production and they're set up for at least a dozen this year. I think most of the refurbishment time for GS-1 is going to be in cataloging just how little there is to actually refurbish.
>>16852980Good thing they're working on a high performance composite S3 https://blueorigin.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/BlueOrigin/job/Seattle-WA/Sr-Structural-Engineer---Tanks---New-Glenn-Advanced-Upper-Stage_R53755
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>>16852998Fact check: TrueHis mother tells me the same thing.
It would be so fun to launch an Estes rocket on the moon
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1991571181129056663
Wait what, that NG booster is already ready for another flight?
>>16853021cant wait for V6
>>16853021
>>16853021If v3 has teething problems like v2 had then i’m straight up just going to kms
>>16853024
>>16853025it probably will having teething issues for a long time since its continuous development
>>16852939>>16853026
>>16852796thats insane
>>16852824i think its cool when it works
>>16853028the industrial style is killing the beauty
>>16853031The industrial utilitarianism IS the beauty
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991571809184149693https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/11/blue-origin-says-its-just-getting-started-with-the-new-glenn-rocket/>The company did not specify a timeline for the debut of the 9×4 variant. A spokesperson for the company told Ars, “We aren’t disclosing a specific timeframe today. The iterative design from our current 7×2 vehicle means we can build this rocket quickly.”>One source familiar with the company’s plans said the internal timeline would allow for the 9×4 variant of New Glenn to take flight as early as 2027.9x4 might come in 2027
>>16853033
>>16853033its over. most countries cant even build a sounding rocket. meanwhile america has 3 super heavy lift rockets, two of which are reusable. the moon is ours. mars is ours. space is ours. we won.
>>16853034Like literally what the fuck did ex-CEO Bob Smith do all day at this company?? What a piece of shit lol, he was driving them at hypersonic speeds to absolutely nowhere
>>16852999If rockets moved forward thru constant density water instead of upward thru decreasing density atmosphere, guess that could be a thing.Also, aerospike.
>>16853036coming from oldspace he did what they did, try to drag out everything for as long as possible while delivering as little as possible to keep the gravy train goingand seems like it did work for quite a long time as Bezos was completely ignoring what happened at BO, just kept shoveling a billion there per year
>>16853010>Advanced Upper StageIs this a dig at ACES?
"Where's Bob?"Bob Smith is joining General Fusion as a strategic advisor. Smith brings more than 35 years of experience developing, scaling, and launching world-changing technologies, including spearheading new products and innovation in the aerospace industry at United Space Alliance, Sandia Labs, and Honeywell before serving as CEO of Blue Origin. He joins General Fusion as the company’s Lawson Machine 26 (LM26) fusion demonstration begins operations and progresses toward transformative technical milestones on the path to commercialization.So, now he's "helping" at a Canadian fusion start-up. Isn't that nice?
>>16853046welp, so that company is dead in the water I guess. Though if he's only an adviser maybe they still have a shot.
>v2 starship weighed 5300 tons wet and could only care 35 tons to LEOWhy is starship-chan so fat and when will she lose (structural) weight?
>>16853032>t. soulless subhuman
"Hi Bob!"
>>16853028>soon I shall litter myself upon your lands
>>16853055stargate ass looking shit
>>16853055jagmeet sir
>>16853061amazon just announced they're making a new stargate series
>>16853061>shipping container ass looking shit
so 9x4 is aimed at orion, right?
>>16853053It's just RTLS and second stage reuse being extremely demanding.Luckily fuel is cheap so how much you're using doesn't matter as long as you can get payload to 100 tons.
>>16853070No. That wouldn't even be worth the effort.It's for Kuiper and orbital refilling.
>>16853074they said 20 tons to the moon
>>16853076So? Orion + ESM is 33 tons.Also nobody cares about Orion or SLS you don't make a new vehicle for a highly politically volatile program that might or might not launch a couple times once a year unless you're oldspace.
>>16852810So the BE-4 is being upgraded, with more thrust and needing subcooled propellants.How bad does this fuck over the Vulcan and ULA? Do they need to adopt the new engine too, or do they keep getting the old one that was shittier? Can their thrust structure and gimbals handle the extra thrust? Are they excited about having to upgrade all their GSE as well? I assume the rocket is strong enough because of the solids, but this change was probably not great news for a dying company like ULA.
>>16853055>jensen huang and his sons>chud's row>chad (lesser)>chad (greater)>achmed>nigel>dwarve>dwarve (irish)>paco>jeet (forma de zoomer)>jagmeet>vivek>teena from accounting>big mike>front row of laminar flow
>>16853076Booster reusable or expendable?
>>16853082it doesnt specify
>>16853074The 94 version is going to be mostly for launching tankers or for deep space work with a 3rd stage. Even with mega constellations you only need so much mass delivered to a single orbital plane and 70 tons is way over that limit. The NG 72 might be technically too big without the ability to drop kuipers into multiple orbits. Cislunar transporter could drink down 70 tons of propellant and not fill the tanks.It also leaves a lot of margin for selling performance if you want to develop a reusable second stage.
>>16853079decent odds the new engine can still use non subcooled propellant at the cost of thrust
>>16853082All New Glenn configurations are planned to be reusable. You can't just strip off the recovery gear like you can with Falcon 9, so expendability was never something they intended or planned for.
>>16852854this. no reason to make your own third stage. kick stages and space tugs exist
>>16853087>All New Glenn configurations are planned to be reusable.wonder where they got that idea from?
>>16853091Basic economics. Good on them since many people are still in denial about this.
>>16853039What part of there is no "customer" at this juncture other than your boss Jeff who is footing the bill and wants some sort of measurable progress did he not understand?
>>16853086Time for Tory Bruno to break the silence on the BE-4A.So Tory, when will the Vulcan sport the BE-4A? Will your contracted customers get this upgrade for no cost added? Also, why do you still use the RL-10, when there is a better engine available from your primary supplier?
>>16853053Because 2nd stage reuse is much more difficult
>>16853098Tory: Jeff, it’s been three weeks. Where are the engines?Jeff: I... I know, Tory. We hit some snags.Tory: Snags? This isn’t a minor delay. Our whole operation’s at a standstill!Jeff: Trust me, I’m doing everything I can.Tory: Everything? This is a joke. We can’t afford jokes right now.Jeff: Look, I get it. I really do. But—Tory: But what? You think I care about your excuses?Jeff: No, no, that’s not it. Just—Tory: Just what? Just keep waiting? That’s not happening.Jeff: I’ll have an update by tomorrow, I swear.Tory: You said that last week. What’s different this time?Jeff: I’m pushing the team. I promise.Tory: Promises don’t build engines, Jeff.Jeff: I know! I’m—Tory: You’re what? Trying?Jeff: I’m trying to fix this.Tory: Trying isn’t enough.Jeff: So what do you want me to say?Tory: I want you to deliver. That’s all.Jeff: I’ll make it happen. Just… a little more time.Tory: Time is running out, Jeff.Jeff: I’ll do better. Just hold tight.Tory: Tight? I’m about to snap.
https://x.com/NASASpaceOps/status/1991603623848034310>NASA astronaut Chris Williams will launch aboard the Roscosmos Soyuz MS-28 spacecraft to the International Space Station on Thursday, Nov. 27, accompanied by cosmonauts Sergey Kud-Sverchkov and Sergei Mikaev, where they will join the Expedition 73 crew advancing scientific research.Williams, Kud-Sverchkov, and Mikaev will lift off at 4:27 a.m. EST (2:27 p.m. Baikonur time) from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Live launch and docking coverage will be available on NASA+, Amazon Prime, and the agency’s YouTube channel.
>South Korea's Innospace and the UAE's Madari Space to collaborate on space data centershttps://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/south-koreas-innospace-and-the-uaes-madari-space-to-collaborate-on-space-data-centers/the meme is out of control
>>16853106>Thanksgiving launchI hope Chris brings some turkey jerky
>>16853108its just beginning
>>16853098Has reality hit anyone harder than Aerojet rocketdyne? They were living high and mighty just 10 years ago. Then BO poached all their actual talent and SX / BO simply raped them into a grave.
>https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/11/attack-defend-pursue-the-space-forces-new-naming-scheme-foretells-new-era/so according to this we need to be on the look out for space force spacecraft that are labeled AD or AV, which indicate that they'll be deep space attack craft.
>>16853122>Aerojet rocketdynethis sounds like a name that was made up to impress stupid, but hot girls, with cool sounding science shit.goodbye oldspace, it was not fun
https://x.com/NASAAmes/status/1991596863905010035
>>16853128correcting a horrible mistake and fatal flaw is not something to be proud of
>>16853128>more efficient structures
>>16853128Am I retarded, I do not see this strake they are talking about
>>16853080My Fusion Waifu...
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1991623090112196823>The Falcon 9 is being hoisted upright ahead of tonight's milestone launch.Is everyone ready for the next 500th launch?
>>16853128>We're still doing modifications without flight testing to the first manned flight article of an experimental vehicle.NASA really likes murdering astronauts.
>>16853128WAOW
500 launches for a rocket will soon be childs play
>>16853128>computer simulation>still model the stick that would need to hold up the model in a real wind tunnelfor what purpose?
>>16853144you should be careful with that kind of language
Blue Origin is rebuilding the Saturn V
spehs
>>16852873God i wish Elon went 12m from the start!
https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1991617244292595992>Nice camera angle from today’s launch.
>>16852824They landed their first booster, so they are now officially in the cool kids club. But they are the new kid that's yet to earn everyone's respect.
>>16852923>gulf of Mexico
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1991638397568372915>5 out of 6 are now down! 1 more to go! - pipe decided to do a little acrobatics
>>16853177Construction demo is so whimsical
Ceres colonisation.
>>16853181We need to fix all the problems on Mars first
>>16853182kek
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991639935762219077>NASA is moving up the Crew-12 launch date from March 27 to February 15. Here's why, according to a statement from the space agency:>NASA and SpaceX have been working to be ready as early as Feb. 15 for the next commercial crew rotation launch to the International Space Station. This change maximizes launch opportunities for NASA's SpaceX Crew-12, while also accommodating the Artemis II launch windows. As both missions advance toward launch and rely on resources and facilities at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, this change helps deconflict operations.
>>16853199Shartemis II is NET February 5 still, correct?
>>16853202https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991640481952829448>I have not confirmed this, but it suggests to me that Artemis II will likely slip to March from its original February window.
>>16853199>We cheaped out on comm down links. Oopsie Poopsi!
>>16853145Since they say they're also doing wind tunnel tests, probably to compare results
>>16853205No, they broke a fucking dish
>>16852923Are scientists the same everywhere? Why is every society full of cucks now
>>16852951Should imitate breaking up on reentry and killing 7 people
>>16853203>everything’s ready to go>still slipsYup it’s slipping to Q2, perhaps even Q3. What a shit program.
>>16852973BO may we'll have play the long game, poaching SpaceX employees who shared them the important bits about how to make reusability work. If they do fly this booster again, we'll see
>>16853025It will work perfectly and you know it
>>16853035Wonder if Rocket Lab will make it to a SHLV one day, or if they'll pivot by then
>>16853053She is fine, she is on GLP1 booster now (Raptor V3)
>>16853220Or they could have been working on landing and retropropulsion on their own for way too many years. After SpaceX they have more in-house experience at this than anyone else on the planet
>>16853221I am feeling confident, I won’t lie. The last two successful flights has re-ignited the ember of hope
>>16853203fucking clown show
Why is New Shepard still flying like damn let a bad idea die
>>16853128why is there nigger music in the SLS video
>>16853128how much delta-v does this save?
>>16853203But they aren't launch at the same time are they? What's the problem?
>>16853229I forget that New Shepard program is almost 20 years old
>>16853232Publicity I guess, but lately it hasn't been great publicity
>>16853237Crew launch campaigns start weeks before the actual launch. NASA still used crew prep facilities that were first build out during the Apollo program and things never really got grown out to handle prepping for multiple crew missions at the same time. Things got a bit cramped during the max cadence days early in the Shuttle program, but even then missions were still prepping sequentially rather than in parallel.
>>16852977>NRHOIt's a stupid orbit anyway
>>16852977why do we need NRHO again? oh wait, we don't. shut the fuck up.
>>16853243 i hate that orbit
>>16853070>>16853074>>16853078>>16853076Orion needs to be cancelled. High chance the Artemis 2 astronauts burn up on reentry. (Can I put money on this somewhere?)20 tons reusable allows for cheap two launch Apollo (or Chinese) dual launch lunar missions.
>>16852923imagine how you would feel if Mexicans ignored our laws and sent things into our country
>>16853288Clever heh
"Oh my. To shreds you say?"
>>16853292What's to stop an employee at Rocket Lab from betting a bunch of money on polymarket and then coming up with some excuse to delay it? Would it even be illegal? Polymarket seems like it should be absolutely full of people fixing shit like that
>>16853298It's a growing problem, people are getting busted in increasing-numbers, lots of high profile sports betting recently. Polymarket will have an epic insider trading problem soon and it's going to be promptly followed by legislation striking all this down
>>16853298Everyone is going to see that Bob from tooling who said all the bolts were fucked up just won $30k on a public polymarket win
>>16853128All because they can't build a normal cylindrical rocket with predictable aerodynamics/loads/vibrations
>[New Glenn 9x4] would be a notable vehicle, with a lift capacity nearly on par with NASA’s Space Launch System rocket. However, it would have a fully reusable first stage with a larger payload fairing and would likely cost less than one-tenth the estimated $2.2 billion cost of NASA’s super-heavy rocket.Yes, but how many Congressmen did you remember to buy?
If retard Blue Origin want to scale up fast then why are they changing their rocket after their first successful launch?It's gonna be 5 years before they start doing regular launches at this rate
>>16853307New Glenn 9x4 is intended to fly alongside the original 7x2 version, though
>>16853305At a certain point it becomes unavoidable when SLS is struggling to keep pace for Artemis III while China is flying slit-eyed huns around a reddening Moon, prepping for a landing. If BO can promise a direct-launch of a lander at a fraction of the cost of a 20-yr old jobs system that has sort of reached its peak (and there is growing fatige against further infractions to this like Boeing begging for a new contract for *composite* EUS, oooooh that will be a neat trick), all while BO themselves are playing the politics game, they will get what they want. Remember when BO were deciding between Houston and Alabama for the new engine factory? Alabama was more strategic for the politics, so that was their ultimate decision. They will make similar moves across strategic congressional territories as they expand, I am sure.
>>16853307They're just releasing their r&d ideas early to capitalize on Jared entering his office knowing this and having to kill SLS
>>16853024That patch work shit isn't going to work
>>16853319>surely they won't catch super heavy>that tank won't fly>falcon heavy may one day come about
https://x.com/Blobifie/status/1991556473193951632>New ESCAPADE Launch photos released by NASA
>>16853334We got frutiger aero launch before gta 6
>>16853337Frutiger aerospace
>>16852949asymmetric strakes AND 3 asymmetric grid fins, right?
3-core New Glenn Heavy will mog starship
>>16853357tricore sucks for reusability and therefore couldn't beat starship on cost.you want to make it longer and or wider.
"Very good Blue Origin. However...."
>>16853372Falcon Heavy is trash and Elon was right to want to cancel it and he should have done it.
About 15 wingspan
>>16853374Falcon heavy is trash but it was absolutely worth it for many reasons:-Spectacular maiden launch with dual boosters and Starman, very high visibility and peak public goodwill toward SpaceX -Humiliating SLS by beating it handily to maiden launch-Humiliating SLS by stealing Europa Clipper-Humiliating SLS by stealing Gateway -PR, as it was the "most powerful rocket it the world"
At least 350 tons of LH2/LOX
>>16853372BO is overcompensating hard
>>16853378So a Skinny Saturn S-II
>>16853377Yeah, Europa clipper would have had to wait until 2026 for a New Glenn or Vulcan VC6 launch; FH is good if only for that.Also if not for FH Arianespace would have signed a few more commercial contracts around 2017-2020 which means that they wouldn't have downsized their last Ariane 5 production batch which means Ariane 5 and 6 operational service would have overlapped so you can add>Humiliated Europe by causing a gap where they didn't have any launcher.
>>16853334Tried to do tasteful color editing. Did I overdo it like the NSFjeet?
>>16852835Why is she orange? looks good with the blue but almost feels like it was by accident
>>16853372shouldnt BO start working on new armstrong? or when are they gonna do that
>>16853382it looks wonderful, anon. how did you do it?
>>16853383It's a thermal coating in places that need extra protection. They were going to paint it white right up until the inaugural NG-1 launch, then I think they pulled a Shuttle and decided fuck it, it doesn't need the paint. It would probably strip away after each flight anyways
>>168533849x4 might as well be new armstrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTitrkLSg3sFalcon 9 Starlink launch in T-50:00This will be the 100th launch from Cape Canaveral this year
>>16853389Not methalox who cares
>>16853234Who do you think works at NASA?
>>16852908they cut the fucking tail off?
>>16853322>surely v2 will work just fine
>>16853381>Arrival at Jupiter: April 2030. 6 years to get to Jupiter because you don't have the delta and have to perform a billion miles of gravity kicks. That's embarrassing.
https://www.blueorigin.com/new-glenn/9x4
>>16853414BONG9X4
>>16853403Bits were missing, but that aside -- cutting the rudder down would allow them to lower the ceiling height.
>>16853410remember that we will have open contact with ET by 2028
>>16853404Yes?
>>16853177did he stick the landing tho
holy shsit guys a starlink f9 launch in 10 bings
>>16853425>in 10 bingsdo you mean bongs or beats?
>>16853428bings are minutesbongs are hoursthis has been /sfg/ lingo since 2016 at least
>>16853428lurk moar anon
>>16853430we want less lurkers in /sfg/ I personally made $3 last month in referral codes to this general alone
https://x.com/innospacecorp/status/1991693571087577573>New DATE for the SPACEWARD Mission: Dec 17 (BRT)> INNOSPACE has rescheduled the SPACEWARD mission to December 17 (BRT), with a launch window from December 16 to 22 (BRT). This adjustment is an essential step to thoroughly validate the signal-processing segment observed during tests conducted with the Brazilian Air Force using aircraft, ensuring enhanced launch safety and mission reliability. During the Wet Dress Rehearsal (WDR) held on November 18–19 at the Alcântara Space Center, we successfully completed the full ground launch sequence—from rollout to pre-launch procedures and pad recovery. Readiness confirmed. INNOSPACE continues its preparations with precision to ensure a safe and responsible mission. We will keep moving forward—stay tuned for updates.
>>16853442that's a cute lil transporter
>>16853384It is interesting that they didn't use the "New Armstrong" name for this 9x4 rocket. Perhaps that could be taken as a possible hint that they're saving the name for something even bigger (and maybe fully reusable)?
>>16853442>Let's light this (literal) candle!
>>16852824They're cool NOW, they were not cool before
>>16853452new armstrong should be the first blue moon to land humans on the moon.
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1991723533530181884>The 100th launch from Florida's Space Coast in 2025 soared spaceward at 10:39pm ET (0339 UTC). A Falcon 9 carried 29 satellites for SpaceX's Starlink internet service into orbit.
>>168534762025 breaking all kinds of records
>>16853299you can't strike down a blockchain
>29 satellitesI fell like with different launch there's a different number of starlinks being launched.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1763704304074516.webm
>>16853505optimus taking all the jobs so 99% of humanity can be genocided by the rich
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1991739528319836660>Falcon 9’s second stage flies by the Orion Nebula during Thursday night’s launch of 29 Starlink satellites
>>16853509i've seen things...
https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1991749284560257363?s=20>Demo Day 2025 was awesome! >4.5 hours of engineering and production discussion, including the tech path to cross-country Hyperloop tunnels, and even whether Prufrock could be helpful on Mars. Thanks to all who attended!
Today I had a dream about Elon Musk. He said he made 2 anonymous accounts on a forum, there people made fun about his solar ideas.
>>16853505the funniest of all
>>16853505NOOOOOOOOO PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK HORRIBLE MUNDANE JOBS FOREVER
>>16853562The dream is that AI takes over and apes don't have to run a civilization anymore.>>16853508The bitter reality will probably be this.
>>16853592in-built taser
>>16853592They are well known for stealing cars, and with an Optimus being worth about the same as a new car, they would be an obvious target. Since a robot will not be able to defend itself with violence or weapons, the only options are to flee, evade damage, or simply allow it to be taken and send calls for help, making the risk of consequences the deterrent. Its unlikely the apes have the technical skills to reprogram or repurpose it, but like chop shops before, there will be a parts market, batteries and such can be resold. Ultimately they will be simply targeted for vandalism, because in our cities, we cannot have nice things. And urban judges have endless empathy for this behavior, so Optimus shoving will become the new cow tipping
Welp. Looks like Booster 18 is fucked.
https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1991812514888536246
overpressure or something I guess
>>16853602>>16853605THIS IS WHY WE TEST2 month setback, first launch in June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3uaLRrYNY
V3 teething pain starts...NOW
there's no way to sugarcoat this
>>16853606>>16853612>>16853613Cant tell if its a COPV rupture blowing the chines off, or if its a main tank split. Seems to have had gas pressure but not a full tank of liquid nitrogen, or else the spill would be bigger. The test stand is also new, its stressing the untested GSE too so its still possible we saw ground equipment rupture, but that booster looks to be lost
https://x.com/starshipgazer/status/1991821135063998759>Super heavy booster 18 has experienced a major anomaly with catastrophic structural damage during testing tonight at Starbase Massey's test site.
It's over
right before I go to bed, too. not like I need to sleep or anything...
>>16853128>>16853234Obviously Ames is full of some sort of DEI vibe engineer interns which is why this is only being done now. Don't be surprised if this model doesn't even correlate to real world performance.
A few days ago I thought about making a joke prediction here that Booster 18 will explode at Masseys but then I didn't because I thought it is so unlikely to happen that making a joke prediction is just needlessly childish. Now I regret it.
>>16853619looks imploded
So, it happened AGAIN. We can blame the new booster, we can blame rapid iteration, we can praise Blorgin's effort but the truth is it's simply not enough. Tactics, determination you name it, it all stinks.Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in Musk and the lads, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed in January. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about 2026, or our chances in Mars League for that matter. Not playing like this. What do you think, /sfg/? #MuskAtTheWheel or #MUSKOUT?
They need replace that Indian woman at the top leadership or the program is over.
>>16853619Those dents will pop out. Two week delay at most.
>>16853619She'll buff right out
>hardware rich>fastest booster from stacking to launch. B16 a little over 10 months.>next boosters still under fabrication
Last call to get onboard the Blue Origin train
How many New Glenn launches between Starship Flight 11 and Flight 12?
>losing to a literal amazon delivery vehicle
You can't go to Mars.
*Kill your Mars program, nothing to see here*
SpaceX shouldn't mess with the OCD community.
>>16853619Step aside lil peelon. IM taking man back to the moon, might take mars while im at it HAHAHA.
Why not.... skip Artemis 2 and use its SLS for Artemis 3?
>>16853221Update?
>>16853659
You know what, I never really liked Elon, he's a fat weirdo
>At 18:55 (10:55 UTC) on November 21, my country successfully launched the TJS-21 satellite into its predetermined orbit using a Long March-3B carrier rocket from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The launch mission was a complete success.>The TJS-21 will be primarily used for satellite communication, broadcasting, and data transmission, and will also conduct related technology experiments and verifications.>This mission marked the 609th flight of the Long March series of carrier rockets.
60 foot rupture of the booster LOX tank. Inconvenient.
>>16853674installed damaged COPV again award?
>>16853674just weld it together, yolo
>>16853676It's in line with the new booster header tank, so the failure was probably part of or adjacent to that system.
>>16853674I hope they can roll this back down highway 4 in the morning. I'd like to have a look at it.Sadly, they will demo it at Massy's within a day or two, and we will never really get to see it.Looks lie V3 booster is full of fatal flaws, and the ship has yet to be tested. Its going to be a long year of disappointing failures, preparing for it already
>>16853674You'd think they had learned about vacuum cronch the hard way by now.
>>16853686it was a stuck valve, please understand
V3 booster starting off strong I see.Reminder that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the previous propellant feed system.
>>16853688it was gay
>>16853683Excessive dooming>>16853686Failure mode was overpressure
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/11/newest-starship-booster-is-significantly-damaged-during-testing-early-friday/>Nevertheless, this is also a maturing program. The Starship vehicle launched for the first time in 2023, and its first stage made a successful flight two years ago. Losing the first stage of the newest generation of the vehicle, during the initial phases of testing, can only be viewed as a significant setback for a program with so much promise, and so much to accomplish so soon.
Also why the fuck couldn't they just keep flying and overlap V3 development with V2 ship catch and stuff like you normally do with block upgrades?That's what you have two pads for.
>>16853694There's no "possibly implosive" about it. It got the vacuum crooonch.
did they remove some supporting structure or make the walls thinner or something? the update >>16853021 talks about testing the propellant structure and its structural strength, but couldn't that be done with the test tanks (or maybe they skipped that)
>>16853696You're retarded. It was either header tank overpressure or another COPV pop inside the chines.
>>16853695they don't have any v2 ships left, it would take probably the same amount of time to build a v2 as it would take to build a v3might not have that many V2 raptors eitherthe test infrastructure is also different, so they would have to double up on it or make some kind of hybrid design that would serve both at the same time (I don't think there is space to double up on everything in Masseys)
>>1685369870 launches next year, trust the plan
>>16853705look on the bright side. they now have an extra set of unused grid fins in the inventory. raptor 3 supply is building up! also the holidays are coming, we didn't need to be distracted by launches
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1991845404212666603>Another angle showing super heavy booster 18's severe LOX tank damage that occured during testing overnight.
>>16853708aesthetic really
>>16853708The lox tank is ripped right open.This is definitely just an overpressure of an internal header.Probably that huge stupid faggot tank that hangs awkwardly off the side.If it already looks retarded at first glance it's really not a good sign.
so, not an implosion
>>16853708 Remarkable that it's still upright (for now)
>>16853698
>"You can't post here because your range is temporarily banned">Only happens in Firefox>Works without complaint in Microsoft EdgeOkay guys what the fuck is going on here
>>16853711Like you're telling me this is the optimal design for a reusable first stage?What the fuck is this shit?
>>16853718replacing a bunch of COPVs with a steel tank?might be better in a number of ways
>>16853718Ballast so it can fall better.
>>16853719>replacing a bunch of COPVs with a steel tank?No. Header tanks were never COPVs.This full of liquid propellant and used to be inline now it's cantilever.You should strive to delete the header tanks not this stupid shit.
>>16853722It's positioned where it is on purpose. Do you think it's an accident it's positioned on the one side of the booster without a grid fin? They probably put it there to use gravity and propellant mass to ballast the booster towards the ground on that side while the grid fins steer it from the others.
SpaceX insider here. The cause is Elon Musk screaming at us to speed up progress. He was so obsessed with launching at January. Currently he is running to everyone he think might be responsible for it and insults them until they cry. I don't want to be in this hell anymore....
https://x.com/S_F_Archive/status/1991815113188511767?s=20
>>16853718For reference this is the V2 booster aft.If it looks better it flies better.
>>16853730Funny, we were all mouthing off the same kind of shit about Starship going from V2. They got that fixed too. The only actual problem there is here is time. There isn't room in the schedule to be finding new things to go wrong.
>>16853729I like SLS because it reminds me of my childhood.
>>16853732Probably. It's just the new tank design that's unqualified.A reasonable person would have pressure and load tested that independently at some point before putting it in.The big header tube is fine it is the thing preventing it from collapsing right now.
>>16853735>The big header tube is fine it is the thing preventing it from collapsing right now.Pretty ridiculous if you think about it the only thing that tube has in it is compressed gas.
>>16853031what i lose in Saturn V sexiness i gain in self landing orgasms
WAOW! BOOSTER 18 DID WHAT?
>>16853708Oh that’s gore of my comfort character
>>16853357How do you want to tricore it with the aero features + dumptruck rear?
>>16853619is it the fucking valves again?but it didn't asplode, so that's an improvement over last time
>>16853508This
>>16853216That only happens every-so-often and each time they shut the ride down for months then say it's fixed when they reopen it.
>booster was fine why change itRaptors kept shitting themselves constantly
>>16853774>things that didn't happen
Another fifty billion dollars down the drain.
>>16853778Yup it’s called Artemis II
>>16853775latest launch
>>16853794That didn't happen during a dynamic maneuver so none of the booster feed system changes would fix it.
Starship is NEVER getting human rated lmao
>advocate for H1Jeets again>starshit (booster this time) fucks itself up during testing again
>>16853799Groypers curse and/or ULA sniper
>>16853796At this rate it's not even getting orbit ratedIt's time to choose the winning side
>>16853592All optimi conceal carry
>>16853802Musk should continue the South African tradition of defense contracting (this might explain why he’s good at making rockets lol)He could open Misriah Armory on mars and make bullpup rifles
>>16853619This has never happened to a booster before. Up to this point they haven't failed qualification
>>16853796Fuck "rating", just put me on there and let me sign a waiver. I consent, the FAA's consent is not asked for or considered.
>Booster 18 suffered an anomaly during gas system pressure testing that we were conducting in advance of structural proof testing. No propellant was on the vehicle, and engines were not yet installed. The teams need time to investigate before we are confident of the cause. No one was injured as we maintain a safe distance for personnel during this type of testing. The site remains clear and we are working plans to safely reenter the site.https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1991889258701885702
>>16853808This [math]\unicode{x1F44F}[/math] is [math]\unicode{x1F44F}[/math] why [math]\unicode{x1F44F}[/math] we [math]\unicode{x1F44F}[/math] test [math]\unicode{x1F44F}[/math]
>>16853811>engines were not yet installedlucky
>>16852829>noisily downgrades NG capabilities>doesn't post a single linkIf you were my bro, I would compliment you on how cool that story was.
>erm teslabot won’t work on the moon, all the dust will ruin Optimuses joints and gears!Have you considered that you can just put robots in little EVA suits, they don’t even have to be pressurized. Just flimsy little coverall flight suits.
>>16853820I have
>>16853472thats blue armstrong
>>16853592Orbital directed energy constellation
How many New Glenn launches before the next Starship flight test? One or two?
>>16853811so it was the new ground system equipment that was the problem?
>>16853508>so 99% of humanity can be genocidedParanoid delusions! The rich are only going to genocide ~90% of humanity.
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1991892569798660254https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-ring
>>16853839
>>16853840
>Whether for science, commercial, or defense missions, Blue Ring’s multi-destination and multi-mission capability is designed for today’s space environment needs. The spacecraft's hybrid solar electric and chemical propulsion (SEP-Chem) system combines high and low thrust to optimize performance in the most challenging mission scenarios.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991896888795336891https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/11/for-stoke-space-nothing-else-matters-but-full-and-rapid-rocket-reuse/>Lapsa and another aerospace engineer, Tom Feldman, founded Stoke Space a little more than five years ago. Both had worked the better part of a decade at Blue Origin and decided they wanted to make their mark on the industry. It was not an easy choice to start a rocket company at a time when there were dozens of other entrants in the field.
>>16853672>friendship ended with Musk, new best friend Bezos
>>16853844>As we walked the large ring encompassing the site, Lapsa explained that all of the tanks and major hardware needed to support a Nova launch were now on site. There is a large launch tower, as well as a launch mount upon which the rocket will be stood up. The company has mostly turned toward integrating all of the ground infrastructure and wiring up the site. A nearby building to assemble rockets and process payloads is well underway.https://x.com/stoke_space/status/1980651810412237111pic (and clip) from a month ago
>>16853848>The most precise thing Lapsa will say is that Stoke is targeting “next year” for Nova’s debut.>The company has a customer for the first flight. If all goes well, its first mission will sail to the asteroid belt. Asteroid mining startup AstroForge has signed on for Nova 1.
>>16853835Zero
>>16853845Bezos sued anon for his friendship and won
V4 will fix it
>>16853856what ever happened to paint dot net anon who may or may not also be sbarky?
"no it's fucked!"
>>16853858you literally replied to him lol and I'm not sbarkyidk I lost motivation to do anything with it for awhile idk when I'll get it back
>>16853861Understandable, I appreciate your talents nonetheless
>>16853848>As we walked the large ring encompassing the site, Lapsa's hand brushed mine. Then, lightly, trembling slightly, his hand grasped mine.
>>16853863thanx anon
>>16853708>>16853711>>16853718lmaoo, knew it
>>16853861Is this Windows 7?
>>16853811> Uh... had a slight rocket malfunction. But, uh, everything perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
>>16853864kek
>>16853867ye
>>16853868>We're sending an OSHA rep
>>16853850I'm still confident that they will fail if they don't pursue a larger rocket. A fully reusable medium lift rocket is perfect for crew and cargo to space stations. they could corner that market
SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches the world’s most advanced rockets and spacecraft
>>16853708Did not need this to happen a week after all the good PR Blue got from their launch.
>autistically manufacture every single component from stainless steel>call it advanced
>>16853674>>16853708QUALITY KWABX PROGRAM MANAGEMENT
Starship V3 2026 Prediction (Official):>flawless Ship>nightmare Booster
>>16853872>Negative, negative, we got a nasty methane leak down here, give us two or three months to lock it down
>>16853873If they can demonsrate a fully reusable small rocket they will have no trouble acquiring the funding to continue and build a medium sized version.
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1991866720773169272>Liftoff at 10:55UTC November 21, Long March 3B launched TJSW-21 from Xichang
>>16853882Will they though? and how long will development of that take?Best they can do now is maybe take away market share from electron as a dedotated wauncher
literally nothing interesting left in spaceflight this year now huh
chasing mass reductions lead to this
>>16853888We still have the ZQ3 launch next saturday.Will be wild if they land it.
>>16853814https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/12/intrigue-swirls-as-blue-origin-races-toward-year-end-deadline-for-new-glenn/sigh I thought that was common knowledgeThe first NG was actually even lower, 25 is the current situation.
>>16853392sexual deviants, retards and n-- oh!
https://youtu.be/QCKrUZeiTJo
>>16852829>45t reusable is not possible with 7x2 new glenn.why not?
>>16853718Close enough welcome back transtage
I love them so much.
>>16853885>as a dedotated wauncher
>>16853904you must be young
>SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches the world’s most advanced rockets and spacecraft
>>16853880I'm not worried about booster at all, it's something spacex has the most experience with
>>16853850>spacex>blue origin>rocket lab>stoke>Who are the other 6? Unless he's counting outside the US I'd say theres only 4 serious rocket companies right now.
>>16853888Korea is launching another Nuri next Wednesday, and there's HANBIT-Nano getting back to the pad hopefully sometime next month, so it's an exceptionally good time for Korea. December is also going to have a Proton-M launch and the first six booster Vulcan. We might also see the a boosterless H3-30 and the second Spectrum launch before the end of the year.
>Spacesex desyns, manufactures am laumches zawarudos mosuto advancedo rokketenn und spaceeffraccten
>>16853911He said fewer than 10. 4 is fewer than 10.
>>16853911FireflyAstraULABoeingLockMartNorthrop…I guess idk
>>16853901>the edgy one>the pretty one>he's fat!>old crater face
>>16853915Even firefly is a stretch. The others are a joke.
>>16853917I know—don’t have to convince me. Rocket lab and BO barely make the cut, too
>>16853911SpaceXBlue OriginRocket LabStokeULANorthropRelativityFireflyAstraThat's still missing one, but if you're including Astra you can stretch the definition of "serious" to cover weird scams like Phantom Space and Vaya Space who are serious enough to get penciled in for launch sites at the Cape.
>>16853921Pythom is right behind SpaceX, look out Leon Husk
>>16853923kek can never forget the spelling error launch company
realistically, when are we getting V3 launch?
>>168539272 weeks
>>16853927NSF autists said March launch could be possible.
>>16853927April
>>16853927May
>>16853927January still.
>>16853927As a start, depends on what caused the can crusher. More QC hijinks or something in the design.
Looking forward to the first successful V3 flight with Flight 15.
>>16853927The real limiting factor is launch pad availability. The new design they're finishing up still has some more work needed to be put in. February might be possible but SpaceX is a lot slower at getting GSE out than they are Starship hardware.
Is it really another COPV?Use stainless tanks already I said this after the ship explosion.
>>16853740to shreds you say?
>>16853939I don't believe this. The pad is going to be ready by Christmas.The booster build and test is the longest item now.
Ultimately it won't delay anything because they were already taking their sweet ass time constructing the ship portion at a snail's pace.
>>16853944Elon oscillates between getting autogenous pressurization figured out at Starbase and chimping about the right to import the entire third world for cheap labor. We have swung back to the latter
>>16853927June
>>16853941Most people here think it's the weird new asymmetrical steel header tank they put at the bottom of the booster that ruptured for some reason. Because the damage looks to be suspiciously in that exact area
>>16853927When the pad is ready
>>16853950Pad is ready, musk is making more excuses
>>16853927fug i can't find that "march" picture
>>16853949Nobody has actually confirmed that the clocking is correct and I can't be bothered to do it.Not sure if it's actually on that side.
>>16853927Take the long way home
>>16853927July
>>16853927August
>>16853955True, but the damage so far looks much heavier on one side than the other
>>16853952I feel like people were saying that the pad will be ready soon when they started pouring concrete in that trench and how many months ago was that.
>>16853965Retards keep saying the pad isn't done but conveniently can't say what part of it isn't done when asked. >deluge tests were performed>venting tests were performed>cladding was finished>quick disconnect tests were performedIt's done. We are waiting on the booster now, and probably the ship too if it has the same flaw the V3 booster has…
I always had a feeling of sadness when something bad happened in the Starship program but now I don't feel sad at all, I feel happy about it and I am not sure why.
Nothing I can doA total eclipse of the heart
>>16853912might also get the first Soyuz-5 launch, though probably pushed out to 2026. There are so many Chinese debuts: ZhuQue-2E (take 2), ZhuQue-3, GSX-2, SQX-3, LiJian-2, YinLi-2, TianLong-3, ZSX-1, though many will probably be delayed to 2026. And Neutron wants to launch before year end, but that is doubtful.
>>16853956Jan 31 went up 10% when they rolled the booster to Massey's Nov 20thSomeone bought.
Keep a close eye on all ethnically chinese people down there.Two times is a pattern.
>>16853972Soyuz-5 could happen if you're going by the hardware deliveries to Baikonur. An operational rocket would be launching inside of a month with the PR updates they're publishing, but I still haven't heard anything from anyone about the status of the status of Site-45. The last news there was about Russia and Kazakhstan still arguing over environmental assessments and payment agreements.
>>16853974*pwew pwew!*
>>16853927Early March
elon please just fucking fire everybody at this point, get the fuck off of the ket and decimate starbase, the lazy fucking mexicans keep fucking up your rockets and you just keep jerking off to grok
>>16853988If it's really another COPV again then intentional sabotage is most likely.
>>16853988Leave Elon alone
I'm still standin' (yeah, yeah, yeah)
looks fine
>>16854005on to the launchpad
>>16854005>lost to some cold airIt's over
https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/1991937015387136169>Aftermath of the Booster 18 test anomaly at Massey's test site. More photos coming soon. Thank you to @redlineheli for getting us airborne this morning!its fine
>>16854005"The armored backplates of the Boostersaurus evolved as a defense from attacks by the fearsome NewGlennadon."
>>16854009>that asymmetryDefinitely the asymmetrical tank that ruptured. Why tho
>>16854012Needs a meme caption>my sides
>>16854009>>16854012https://x.com/mwc82/status/1991945078516928596Breaking News
>>16854014That's not a solid material where atoms, molecules or ions are arranged in a highly ordered, repeating pattern.
>>16854005>>16854009how is BO suddenly winning so hard while spacex looks like a sad joke?
Whens the next booster getting done? 2 weeks?
>>16854009they going to bring it back into the mega bay and salvage the top half? or just scrap it and work the next one
>>16854019Idk, probably won't be done until mid December. I don't think it is even closed to finished stacking. Then it has to test without blowing up this time
>>16854009"You see Jimmy, because there was no Zinc in the alloy, the booster tank exploded!"
>cargo door on the booster
>>16854028Why are the COPV covers not a single piece of steel lmao
>>16854009>its fineYeah, just needs some bondo.
>>16854016Happens when you define winning and losing purely by optics and thread vibes.
>>16854016they have second mover advantage. spacex is out here doing the heavy lifting.
>>16853904seems like a nice fella
It's time to unleash American space potential with inland launch sites.
>>16854077who keeps pushing this?
>>16854080It's a good idea. If you're NSSL certified you get to launch over land.
>>16854080>Scott McLaughlin is Executive Director of the New Mexico Spaceport Authority.
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1991967760604356901>A midday look at super heavy booster 18 at Starbase Massey's test site after the overnight testing anomaly.
>>16854096and there it is. always follow the money.
>>16854097
>>16854009Tell me when this absolute faggot stops gatekeeping the good angles.
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1991987664766328990>The Blue Moon MK1 flight vehicle that will land near Shackleton crater. We’ll soon be doing fully integrated checkout tests. At over 26 feet tall (8 meters), it’s smaller than our MK2 human lander but larger than the historic Apollo lander.
>>16854102Beauty. But also unc shave your beard it's not working.
>>16854101https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/1991989473371185430not subscribed to them but now I guess
>>16854102BO is like lets rub it in
Total SpaceX humiliation.
>>16854102>Shackleton CraterWill they do hecking cool science there? I can't wait for science out of permanently shadowed craters!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA
>>16854117Wait Hank Green made that song?I didn't know LMAOOOOOO
Honestly it doesn't look so bad, weld some steel plates and is good to go.I woudn't reuse it, but for a single launch is ok.
>>16854128its a total writeoff
>>16854103holy shit he has a beard?
As it happened
>SpaceX: "...we are working plans to safely reenter the site.""We're allowing the deadly Nitrogen used in texting to disperse into the atmosphere before we attempt to enter. God be with us."
>>16854145the future we asked for, but not the one we'll get
BO RACKING UP WIN AFTER WIN AFTER WINSPACEX RAKING UP L'S
>>16854145holy shit thats cool for AI
>>16854146Reminder that Columbia Space Sh*ttle asphyxiated two people with nitrogen long before it burnt seven on reentry.
NSF Forum thinking:>I cannot think of a safe way to topple the booster. I hope that there are professionals that can.>The least dangerous approach I thought of is still quite dangerous: Use a helicopter to hook a cable to the hot-stage truss, and then attach the other end to a winch on the ground fairly far away and pull it down. There is a danger to the helicopter and crew, but it is "just" doing the attachment and will be far away before tension is applied."Damnit man! That sounds crazy -- but maybe just crazy enough to work!"
>>16854160They're gonna get the amigo who has been haphazardly tearing down the launch mount to poke it with an excavator bucket until it falls over.
Scoots chimes in:>Scott Manley - So to me this looks like it's like a ragged vertical tear that's centered on one of the chines. There are vertical tears along the hoops. So if we assume it's associated with the chines then either the welds weakened the underlying tank, or, it's another COPV failure.Maybe stop dropping COPV tanks on the ground.
>>16854160Shoot the transfer tube with larger caliber rounds until it gives out.
It’s not too late for Blue Origin to change their shitty company name to something actually cool, and fire the cringe screaming butch commentators
>An upthread poster was spot on in his comparison to a bungled controlled demolition of a building. This booster is as tall as a 23 story building and now just as dangerous. It is going to be very interesting to see how they handle it."We're gonna push it over with a crane. Good old reliable crane can do it all."
>>16854173Surround the bottom with COPV tanks and let them explode like demolition charges.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1991998986526634140>NASA no longer has any astronauts assigned to Starliner-1. Scott Tingle was on the crew but has become chief of the astronaut office. Luke Delaney was also assigned, but has now moved to Crew-13, per a source.
Musk has yet to comment anything? Concerning.
>yeah, I'm gonna beat Elon to the Moon
>Booster 18 destroyed>Booster 19 hasn't even started stacking>Have to analyze and correct failure before manufacturing can continue>Massays damaged. And this time it's the new v3 equipment that has to be repaired or replaced>Going into Winter weather>Going into two and a half months of holidaysAs over as it has been before, it's now even more over.
>>16854186holy shit those arms
Booster is sad now.
>>16854192it reminds me of something
>>16854191stop being gay
>>16854192so its going to fall over on its own and explode?
>>16854195I'm not. but look at those guns!not gay at all to see that a man is strong
"It's over Johnny."
>>16854192Leaning Booster of Boca Chica.
>>16853981But it wasn't an explosion, it wasn't even a deflagration since there was no flame. It was just a popped balloon.
>>16854192>>16854201they're just gonna leave it like this, new monument, tourist attraction etc
>>16853904reminds me of Koenigsmann kek
>>16854012>I'm ready to settle down now
>>16854200Wonder if this guy said the same thing after S36 blew up, or after SN4 way back in the day.
>>16853988>and you just keep jerking off to grokIs that why his goals changed from Mars to space AI?
>>16854048the power of gradatim ferociter
>>16854077Only if the spent boosters land on Atlanta
>>16854124Looks like a Jewish saboteur to me
>>16854194lol
>>16854186Why is he always hitting the aura farming pose?
>>16854186>those pointy shoesThat shit is how you get bunions
>>16854218onions?
>>16854217he's aura farming
>>16852805>火圣宇航nigga what
>>16854222>huǒ shèng yǔháng>Fire Saint AerospaceTransliterated into English as "FSTSPACE," because all Chinese semi-independents need to have a cool sounding name in their native language that must never, ever be allowed to escape out into the Anglosphere.
>>16854227I know what it says, that's why I'm asking what the fuck it's supposed to mean
>>16854145I've heard of "put a tiger in your tank", but this is getting ridiculous
Man, blorgin really been pulling lots of tricks out of the hat here recently
I can't believe Blue Origin has launched the most mass to orbit already
We could do entire bunches of bananas to orbit with Blue
>Blue Origin moggingWhat’s happened bros, is Elon too busy gooning to his ai waifus he needs to go to Boca Chica and start making some heads roll
>>16854102Jeff bezos. The starship project just died today. The blue bezos rises
>>16854230What does Pythom mean?
>>16854246Nothing because it's not even a word, but of course fire and saint are words and together they mean something like the saint of fire, so again, wtf
no more launches t his year gg
>>16854220You need to be 18 to post here
>>16854273booster...18.......
>>16854270>no more launches t his year ggWell, excuse me...
All of the weird SpaceX fans in here would be celebrating if this happened to New Glenn or better yet SLS. But it's SpaceX and they can do no wrong or make a bad vehicle.For all of the new SpaceX fans out there, there's a reason why nobody builds and tests rockets the way that SpaceX is doing for Starship. It's not that they never thought of doing it, in fact the military used to do it back in the 50s and 60s. They stopped because a functional vehicle is more important than making something sloppy fast. Especially when you're putting billion dollar spy satellites (or people) on them.That's part of the reason why, despite being announced on the same week as each other, New Glenn has placed two payloads into orbit and Starship struggles to not blow up on the test stand. In fact, if SpaceX were willing to wait on developing the reusable upper stage, they could have been having starlink launches for a couple of years now. But no, they had to go and bite off more than they could chew, underbid more serious HLS competition, and place our national human spaceflight program in jeopardy.
>>16854289Good luck China! If they land this thing its going to be glorious.China knows how to scale, without bullshit roadblocks. This will quickly leapfrog the US capability and I'm looking forward to the response
>>16854289bezos and china are eating spacex's lunch
>>16854290Now watch him samefag replies to his own reddit repost.
>>16854292Yep China is going to be mogging soon since the government supports industries rather than fucking them over
Slow and steady wins the race? huh
Musk has given upI can feel it
Apologize
>>16854307no
>>16854306has he broken the silence yet?or still advocating for jeetslast year at this time he was bragging about fake gaming scoresI guess its over
The lack of responses to >>16854290 is deafening. This general has been utterly humiliated.
>>16854290I know, at this rate SpaceX will never start launching starlink
>>16854299scale up, then scale outthey knowwestern countries are poised to fail
>>16854312You're mistaking people not really caring about some obvious engagement bait for embarrassment. How embarrassing.
>>16854290>more serious HLS competitionNegative mass margin
thanks for the gold kind stranger!
>>16854124same energy as that SLS girl
why do they downvote the truth?
>>16854355They fear the ancient Chinese chad who straps solid rocket motors to his fancy chair
>>16854355I thought they were egyptian
>>16854355>>16854384This anon's got it
>>16852905>Downeyhehehe
>>16854200What the fuck is wrong with your font rendering?
>>16854289This cant be allowed to happen. We need to nuke china
>>16854355UM AKSHULLY the first astronaut was AMERICAN.The first cosmonaut was Soviet.The first TAIKONAUT was Chinese
>>16854444Are euronauts a thing?>lmao
>>16854434Hate to break it to you senpai but China is going to kick your teeth in if you do a hot war.
Japanauts
Will now V4 be the ACTUAL V2?
>>16854474V3 Block II
>>16854453Yuri Gagarin was european
15min
>>16854479wow a falcon 9 starlink launch at night
>>16854480maybe this time it will blow up? or atleast do something interesting
it's that easy
I know Starship will succeed. I KNOW.
>france getting launch capability>germany getting launch capability>spain getting launch capability>I just want to see the Union flag in space...
>>16854505we have skyrora right? that shit in scotland?
>>16854506>SkyroraSeems to be our best bet but it was founded by a Ukrainian and not an Anglo-saxon. And northern latitude launches are a meme and a dead end. We are not going to ever get to the outer reaches of space if we lock ourselves to this rock. If we'd have kept Singapore we could've used that.
>>16852863big if true
>>16853800inb4 Groyper Sniper>>16853980>Site-45Is being upgraded for Soyuz-5, the old Zenit service towers were just demolished a while ago.>>16854404They do a lot of practice for LGBT month (Let's Go Bomb Tel Aviv)
>>16854478>Yuri Gagarin was european
>>16854290>despite being announced on the same week as each other, New Glenn has placed two payloads into orbit and Starship struggles to not blow up on the test standbrutal
>>16853387>>16853452New Borman would be more fitting
>>16854246The oracle Pythia was known to sit over a natural gas vent and give predictions while tripping balls Which is about the kind of humor I'd expect from a bunch of retards messing with their toxic propellants
>>16854524Make a video of this. I want to be amused when I wake up.You have 8 hours.
>>16854455Yellowbellies are gonna get buck broken hard.
Starship's problem isn't so much is design as much as it is SpaceX fucking around when it comes to program management.
>>16854533what do you mean? what did they fuck around with?
>>16854533comparing oldspace and SpaceX program managment, not sure you want to go therea few explosions here and there don't matter
>>16854238>what’s happened brosNot what you’re claiming is happening.But anti-spacex contrarianism is mostly feels-based in nature so that’s understandable.
>>16854478Russians are mongol rapebabies and not white.
>>16854509northern latitude is actually fine/better for polar orbits. so there is that.
>>16854555>>>/wsg/6034544 Das rite!
>>16854560And where do polar orbits get you?
>>16854562Agartha
>>16854562into an orbit that can see the whole world at different times?
>>16854579Why do you need that when you need to colonise the Solar System?
>>16854453What do you think cosmo, taiko, and astro mean?
Caption This.
"Hey Hey! Chicken and broccoli."
>>16854599"With the power of my brain I will now pop this one too."
>>16854611soon
>>16854599>i am the true king of spaceflight with my be-3, be-4, be-7, blue ring, blue moon, MTO, new glenn v1 & 2, OTV, and future NTP while my competitors 1) use my engines 2) only has the methalox starship
>>16854611Why does it look like CGI?
Did you know that the Blue Moon human lander is supposed to uses the Lockheed Martin Cislunar Transporter for refueling?
>>16854599these two things aren't even similar.
>>16854533pressure fed SIGMA btfo'd muskcacas again!
>>16854611impressive, but thats nothing.Tycho crater, central peak. LRO
Haters say it's fake.
REVEALED!!!It was a COPV AGAIN!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA45hyYUupAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuAZ_Rq150Are COPVs cursed??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA45hyYUupA&t=25shttps://x.com/Adam_C_Kelley/status/1992144819435753859https://x.com/JTVanC/status/1992060309662810494
>>16854640where
>>16854630>Cislunar>Transportermake up your minds, shitlords, cis or trans?
>>16852961>It's just a little payback for the cartels and fentanyl and wetbacks.the cartels that you americans trained (look up where the "los zetas" cartel started), and the drugs that you love so much, and the wetbacks that work in your fields for cheap?
>>16854642>Are COPVs cursed??nospacex is cursedelol lost the mandate of heavenJezos is our new lord and savior
>>16854642COPE
>>16854654I O Musk.
Remember what happened before and during the successful flight 11...? Bike girl got posted here. Do you know what happened after he stopped....? Booster 18 exploded.
>>16853727Bazed E lon
>>16854642these thumbnails are so blatant clickbait i refuse to watch the videos on principle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FREUv9csue4
>>16854725What if the airplane crashes?
>>16854733They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother
>>16854721yeah I was looking at them too like what the hell kind of janky clickbait titles are those, "THEY FOUND" lol. I had to check though, one of them was 10 minutes and 30 seconds for that max ad revenue, with an AI voice narrator
>>16854192
smoke and flames spotted.it's over
>>16854721>>16854740YouTube AI slop for documentary-type content has gotten so bad. Its so goddamn easy for AI to make a topical video that maybe hasnt been well covered before, throw a clickbait thumbnail and fake voice, and lure clicks. Its almost impossible to simply click around and find good content, only known channels are safe and even some of those creators are adding AI shit. We need some crowdsourcing powered extension for youtube, like sponsorblock but with users reporting AI bullshit so they can be filtered out, since youtube itself will never provide such a tool. A whitelist of "real" content creators only
>>16854608WAOW
>>16854773I tend to use "before:2016" filters. wow how different the internet was back then.
It's mostly indian admirers of SpaceX. I think one of the anti-ULA channel had an IP from Bangalore.
https://x.com/dsshhh112/status/1992259544073052167>The Long March-2F/Shenzhou-22 Manned Spacecraft (in an uncrewed state) has been transported to the launch tower today and is scheduled for launch in the near future.
>>16854773It's bad especially when you are a bad goy like me and don't have a youtube account where (I am assuming) you can filter entire channels.
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/1992227380048560369>Soyuz-2.1a rocket for this launch is now fully assembled, rollout will happen on November 24. Launch of Soyuz-2.1a with Soyuz MS-28 spacecraft is scheduled for November 27 at 12:27:57 Moscow Time (09:27:57 UTC).
>>16854790I don't think I can even hate the hustle, if this is what works for those views then it's more of a problem with the holy algorithm. If some guy in some Delhi shack can make good money with low effort Youtube videos then more power to him, just keep riding the shitshow wave until it collapses. How many of the more legit creators have outright stated that they hate using those clickbait meta thumbnails, but they just result in more engagement. Same when they always throw in those lines like what do you think of this thing, share your thoughts in the comments, because more comments = more promotion by the robot
That's a fairly small amount of COPV failures for an average sized starship, I'd say.
I thought spacex was going to get rid of COPV's
>>16854794Is that the return capsule for the stranded taikonauts?
>>16854811iirc only some of them
>>16854816Yup
>>16854781>"before:2016" filtersI didn't know this is a thing, I hope i won't forget it tomorrow, seems to be really useful.
>>16854589Taiko is a kind of Japanese drum. What did you think it meant?inb4 it means space in Chinese. wrong
>>16854781>>16854842https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiIWcoeWeN8
Pack it up boys, this is the earliest estimated time for launch. End of April 2026. Assuming there are no other mistakes or accidents.
>>16854816Si
>>16854858>It's so over, it'll take them at least a year to rebuild the launch site
Sources tell me Booster 18 is stable.Please god
>>16854862It's no the launch site, is the booster estimated in previous production times.
>>16854869the forecasting power of that is low, they have any number of reasons to slow roll the buildout previously such as already having a bunch of boosters
>The Starbase team plans to have the next Super Heavy booster stacked in December, which puts it on pace with the test schedule planned for the first Starship V3 vehicle and associated ground systems. Starship’s twelfth flight test remains targeted for the first quarter of 2026.
25 flights in 2025 btw
what are the chances of 26 flights in 2026?
>>16854902december is going to go CRAZY
>>1685490750/50
>>16854794can't they launch it without the escape tower in this case ?
>>16854900I hate doomers and doubters. They keep getting proven wrong but still expect the worst. They're all such pessimistic faggots.
>>16854917Optimists are always making excuses and moving the goalpost though
IT IS HAPPENING
>>16854915Probably, but if you want to have the process running as quickly as possible you're not going to want to deviate from the established procedure, even if it's slightly suboptimal. The last time the LM-2 launched in a configuration that had LRBs and no LES would have been the last LM-2E flight back in 1995 and the team that handled that launch is almost certainly retired or dead at this point. Simpler to just run the normal program crewless.
Maybe with some quick patching...
>>16854930this does not look optimal
>>16854930send pedro in with a torch, it'll be ready by friday.
>>16854930nothing a little flex tape can't fix
>>16854930
>>16854948why is he so wide?
>>16854952live bezos reaction
>>16854900https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1992287913036648577
>>16854957Being extra fast to make other mistakes.
https://x.com/dfuji1/status/1992288972362711239>A bright fireball was observed streaking across the sky just moments ago. This captures the fireball that streaked at 1:20:42 on November 23, 2025, as recorded by a camera pointed from Fuji toward the south. It increased in brightness midway along its path, leaving a meteor trail behind. Although simultaneous meteor activity was not established in Hiratsuka due to bad weather, it is believed to have been a fireball from the Northern Taurid meteor shower.
>>16854957the white man marches on
btw New Glenn seconds stages had multiple implosions happen last year, its just much more difficult to follow what they do compared to SpaceX and they don't talk about thatwe still haven't seen the landing attempt for NG-1 booster for instance
>>16854965I hate BO but even I feel the need to say: who cares? Yeah okay you haven't seen NG-1, but they successfully recovered NG-2. And yes they had embarrassing transportation issues with their NG2 upper stages but Bob Smith is out, Limpdick is in, and they are slowly learning how to get their rocket working now. Both NG2 stages have performed nominally in flight
Booster 18 possibly flipped today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
>>16854965Probably not that much too see. The video we got for Odds wasn't that great compared to your normal Falcon 9 launch and they had to have improved their setup after Chance launched. It wasn't able to relight its engines and if it was following the same landing pattern as the second flight it would have swan dived into the ocean ~250m away from Jacklyn, and it would have done it in the dark. None of that adds up to having good footage after the fact.
>>16854970Here is a better live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3uaLRrYNY
Why do leftists all have this wet dream about a United Earth? How will having billions of Africans on board help us reach the stars?
>>16854854>jesse draperI was going to say "I'd draper" but I looked up her more recent photos and honestly I wouldn't
>>16854978stars?
Which one is the more interesting/impactful event?
>>16854969Limp has been in for like two years, the implosions happened during his watch
>>16854971that wasn't my pointmy point is people don't seem to be aware that shit happens with BO as well, they just don't show it and/or people didn't really give enough of a shit to start monitoring that closely like they do with SpaceX and starbasemaybe that changes now (the monitoring aspect) as BO becomes a much more credible player
>>16854982He met her at that time though and I am pretty sure he did
>>16854867It seems in your anger you blew it
>>16854957It was listed as NET January before.
>unfueled>no fts>explodes anywayfucking kek
>>16854985left impactfulright interesting
>>16855017boob
>>16854555settle down, Zubrin
>>16855017ugh hemorrhoid I know that feel titan
Mars Terraforming can begin immediatelyhttps://scienceclock.com/moss-survives-9-months-in-space-vacuum/
>>16855046GAYASS nasa will never allow this btw
>>16854965Also, remember when a Centaur V exploded during ground testing a year or two ago? Yet I'd bet that the same people criticizing SpaceX for things like the B18 explosion would call ULA the "safe and trusted" choice.>captcha: T2 AYY
>>16855046some spore capsules survive =/= is able to reproduce and spread
>>16855049umm my Starlink TOS says the law of NASA is NULL AND VOID on Mars
>>16855049they can go collect the remains of the airbursted starship full of extremophiles launching in 2026. They do have their own rocket right?
>>16855052You are not smart.
>>16855062you can spread these spores on mars but if there is not enough moisture and the pressure is too low, they won't grow and no terraforming is going to happenthey will stay dormant and if the environment changes, they might start to grow
>>16854977>vultures circling B18
>OMG, we are going to Mars!go back to >>>/r/eddit, faggots
>>16855070who are you quoting?
>>16854965Booster 18th imploded. 18th example built plus however many test only engineering articles.Did Blue still have imploding S2 at that point?
>>16855046wow it's just like red mars. now where are the sex cults and cheating whores?
>>16855073just shut up man
>>16854957>Our tank just failed. We're not going to diagnose why before we built another.This is why your Grilled Cheese at the Tesla Cafe is always cold and burnt.
>>16855073it certainly wasn't their first S2 and this happened like 3 times
>>16855084>happened like 3 timesproof?
Ceres sample return when?
>>16855084So, you're our expert of NG S2. List the builds and which exploded, so we can compare where in the development process the failures happened.>NB4 You make excuses why you can't actually provide that.
>>16855090disingenuous earther retard
>>16855090this is a new version of the booster and new ground systems, it happens
>femboy B18 isn't real he can't confuse you>femboy B18
>>16855096Grab a broom and sweep up the data off the concrete at Masdays.
>>16855088seems like it was one implosion and one explosionhttps://archive.is/XGxR1>The upper portion of one rocket crumpled into itself, in part due to worker error, while it was being moved to a storage hangar, according to people familiar with the situation. In a separate incident, another upper rocket portion failed during stress testing and exploded, the people said. Repairs are underway, another person said, noting there were no injuries during either episode.I probably confused it with the engine problem New Shepard hadhttps://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-closes-blue-origin-mishap-investigationhttps://www.blueorigin.com/news/ns-23-findings
>>16855103Hey -- an Echo!
data centers in space might not be a meme after all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJ3MNUw0vc
>>16855099that's it, I'm gay. Was a nice try, but it's time to wrap it up.
>>16855096Booster was a solved problem. B2 worked. Now back to the fireworks.>But we can't use B2! We have to scrap the inventory and tear down Tower One!Maybe don't do that.
>>16852764Why do muskrats keep stacking so much Ls?
>>16855107wow no shit
>>16855122you have no vision
>>16854854Is this some kind of fetish?
BTW the only legit reason to scrap off S2 so aggressively to for the tax write down in this year.
>>16855148>please wait a while before making a post
Whatever happened to Spinlaunch? Are they actually still in business? Seems like the big building in Long Beach they were using was up for lease recently.
>>16855163kek, hopefully someone can put the space to productive use
>>16855103>seems like it was one implosion and one explosionShouldn't that cancel out?
>>16855163>dumb idea>go bankruptunsurprising
>>16855163Pivot to:>Meridian Space constellation, a satellite broadband constellation that will be deployed in low-earth orbit. SpinLaunch announced the constellation in April.Next up, Spinlaunch AI servers in orbit.
When at what will happen with the booster?
X location from profiles is now online
they are cutting it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1992365048564769273perhaps they will make a frankestein monster booster
>xvel -- I see lots of people on copium today... Let get the facts: they completely destroyed their only booster during first basic test, stop comparing that to other in flight failures which mainly occurred when vehicles were in uncharted territory (first hot staging, first reentering, first landing) and failure was within the scope of expected results. Pressurizing a COPV is not uncharted territory and the failure was certainly not within the scope of expected results.She's not wrong.
>>16855181more likely they are gonna do testing to see if there was defects in the steel
>>16855187the copers are still righta test is a test, expected results or not, they reveal shit that we can learn fromin this case how to go about pressurizing a copv
>>16855197how NOT to go about
>>16855197>>16855187we don't have details on how the pressure vessel failed thoughfor all we know it just got murphy's lawed and was an undetected manufacturing defectno new lessons or blame to rightly throw around
>>16855187So if we're going to assume that this was another COPV failure like with S36, wouldn't that suggest that it wasn't an inherent design flaw with the V3 booster and was just another instance of beaners mishandling a COPV, and that would lend credence to SpaceX's assertion that Flight 12 could still happen in Q1 of next year? I think it's fair to say that whipping the beaners into shape would not take as long as fixing an intrinsic problem with the design of the rocket.
>>16855197Gwenlon insisted after the previous COPV explosion, they found the root cause and instigated a permanent process correction. This is supposed to be a solved problem.
>>16855207was the root cause the same this time?
>>16855207>>16855209the root cause is the use of copvclearly it wasn't solved
>>16855209If not, v3 has introduced a new failure point discovered at the earliest point it could be discovered. They weren't even tanking yet. They were putting air in the tires.And who knows what other flaws are in there.
>>16855209The root cause is always Felon Husk
It's the booster header tank that blew, not the COPVs, retards
>>16855236more like COPEVs amirite?
>>16855240What does the E stand for?
>>16855242Extraneous.
>>16855242Expendable
The rocket blew up simple as
With his YOLO attitude, imagine how many people Elon is going to murder when humans are aboard Starship.
>>16855247Elon would never harm his precious cargo
>>16855207The fix was attaching a sign to each COPV reading "Caution! Do not bonk"
>>16855251>"Caution! Do not bonk"¿qué?
>>16855242Explosive
>>16855163Acquired by Spinrecovery
>>16855251
>>16855236>>16855187where are the sources for these shit?
I wonder if non-retention will ever come back to bite SX as all the talent concentrates into BO for bigger paychecks and lots of experience to start new projects to try and catch up to whatever SX is doing
https://x.com/ArianeGroup/status/1991929646414213454>Ariane 6 : A 100% European industrial puzzle>From the outside, it of course looks like a rocket. But behind Ariane 6 it’s much more than a launch vehicle: the whole of Europe is involved in cooperating, inventing and assembling. More than 13,000 people from 13 European countries take part in its design, construction & integration. Thousands of engineers, technicians and researchers collaborate, often hundreds of kilometers apart. Yet each component is perfectly made, each system fits precisely in place. >Ariane 6 is the brainchild of a common project: to guarantee Europe autonomous access to space. It’s a project based on complementarity, solidarity, and a common desire : working together to reach new heights. It’s more than an industrial success story; it’s a symbol of international cohesion. Ariane 6’s creators speak more than one language, but the whole enterprise has only one voice: that of Europe >How about you, wherever you live… which Ariane 6 component represents you?
>>16855271>senate launch system euro edition
Sad but true.
>catdlr -- Numerous detailed images were showcased during today's RGV Show and Tell session. For those who are not Patreon members, stay tuned to view tomorrow's public presentation. The explosion promises to be a spectacle for Zack and the Ringwatches, offering an in-depth examination of the tank's complex plumbing and slosh baffles. V3 is much more complicated than V2 concerning the engine plumbing and the Ice issues Zack brought up in his video. It appears they have simple filters and nothing to prevent ice from forming, so something has changed to avoid it.Starship is the Flying Dutchman of launch vehicles.
>>16855277we don't even know why shit happened yet
>>16855268I can see that happening, especially with the new BO CEO who's like let's actually do stuff here. So people can just jump there after they bashed their head against a wall for three years trying to make a thing work, but now they know how to do it so it'll be significantly easier even with normal work hours
>>16855271As someone who lives in Europe, I still think that whenever someone is talking about Europe as some kind of single cohesive whole, it's just the French or Germans sucking their own dick. There's ""Europe"" as in Belgium/Netherlands, France, Germany, then there's actual Europe where everyone memes on their neighboring countries, and nobody has any idea what's going on in Eastern Europe. Meanwhile in Eastern Europe everyone will tell you that Eastern Europe begins east of whichever country they live in
>>16854292>>16854299>>16854317Out of curiosity I checked wiki, and the truth is far more grim for China than these kinds of posts would have you believe. So far this year, Rocket Lab ALONE has had almost as many launches as the entire Chinese commercial launch industry COMBINED. The most-launched Chinese private rocket is Kuaizhou 1/1A at 32 launches, but that's since 2013. The most launches in a year for any Chinese commercial rocket is 7 for Ceres-1 in 2023, which includes one failure. It's easy to say that grorious China will totally bury evil decadent west someday, but the cold, hard reality is that so far not a single one of their private launch companies can match even Rocket Lab in launch cadence, let alone SpaceX. Perhaps it's worth considering that scaling up launch rates for orbital rockets is a completely different challenge than scaling up production of cheap plastic trinkets and consumer electronics?
>>16855304rocket lab's entire mass-to-orbit since founding has amounted to a single F9 launch
>>16855305Yeah, and that makes it even worse for China given that F9 launches 4-5 times a week these days. Kuaizhou-1 and Ceres-1 are similar in size and payload to Electron and launch far less frequently.
>>16855304"What is -- payload?""Correct! Pick again."
>>16855307Don't mistake me for some kind of Rocket Lab fanboi, I'm just pointing out that the idea that any of these Chinese commercial rocket companies can ramp up their launch cadence at an unprecedented pace anytime soon is questionable.
Grok?Electron 200 kg for a 500 km sun-synchronousCeres-1 300 kg to a 500 km sun-synchronous orbit Kuaizhou-1 430 kg for a 500 km sun-synchronous orbit 50% to 115% greater aren't really "similar".
>>16855300>eastern europeWhy does nothing happen there? They don't have space programs or even talk about having one.
it's over
>>16855313Fair enough, but going back and checking wiki again I'd note that both Kuaizhou-1 and Ceres-1 weight at least 30 tons while Electron is only 13 tons. It's actually kind of impressive how much performance RL managed to squeeze out of their own clean-sheet tiny liquid fueled design, versus having access to legacy PLA solid-fueled ballistic missile tech like so many of these Chinese "private" companies.
Korolev was a better rocket scientist than Von Braun ever was.
>>16855250>full of H1B jeets
>>16855325but a less effective one
>>16855312>Its another episode of Americans thinking China can’t do *insert thing here*How many times do the bug people have to teach you this lesson fat man
>>16855197You’re tarded dude. How many COPVs has SpaceX used over the years? How are they STILL blowing them up? There’s some real problems going on. This isn’t a “this is why we test” moment.
>>16855341>how are they STILL blowing them up?yes that is certainly worth knowing and i won't assume anything pending the answer to that
>>16855341>>16855344>>16855236So which is it?COPVs or header tanks?
>>16855340All I'm saying is that looking at the last decade or so of orbital launches does not suggest that any one Chinese private launch company will be able to accelerate their launch cadence beyond what we've already seen from existing western companies any time soon. I'm not saying that no Chinese company will ever have a reusable orbital rocket, it's just that I'm skeptical that any one of them will overtake the likes of SpaceX in launch cadence soon enough to matter.
>>16855346Look at literally any Chinese industry. Once the minimum viable product is achieved it gets rapidly iterated and mass produced at lightning speed with the government giving them money and building needed infrastructure overnight.>but space is hardKek
>>16855353So why have no Chinese private rocket companies been able to achieve more than 7 or so launches per year so far?
Reminder that COPVs (and the strakes) were all supposed to be temporary, like the hot stage, so that they could just start launching. The plan all along was to use autogenous pressurisation. Best part is no part. Delete the COPVs
>>16855360>Temporary part sends your entire booster to HadesDunno senpai seems like a shit idea to me
>>16854404kek, suborbital is the futurealso Taiwan numba wan (failure)
>>16855356Because they are still in the early stages of getting a minimum viable product???
>>16855372So how long till 10+ launches per year? And how long do you think it will take for them to reach SpaceX's current launch rate?
>>16855376Let me pull out my fucking magic 8 ball. Who knows dipshit, the point is once they get going, like everything in China, it will be both massive and rapid.
>>16855379So only time will tell, right. All I'm saying is, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
>>16855378frankenstein's booster coming soon
This fatass is circling the drain with his slopcontent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9haZsGSaaw>"Booster 18 finds Tough Times at Starbase" | SpaceX Starbase
>>16855099rocket girls irl
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1992501343937028155
>>16855378The huge transport tube is a lie?
>>16855422it connects to the upper tank which got cut off in the pic, where do you think it is transporting propellant from?
another oneone day starship will be like this.. gn /sfg/
>>16855420she was like, hey, I'm right here!come and get it
>>16855277cowboys? cow boys? boys who worship cows?
She appears to have the iPhone 17 pro MAXthis was an opportunity, is Florida always like this?
>>16855205>an undetected manufacturing defectis this the new 'observation'?
We need a solid fuel Starship for national security reasons.
>>16855456>9m diameter SRB..kinda based? That's a lot of thrust.
>>16855465ah yes, this is the pinnacle of AI revolution. Thanks EELon!
>>16855300>that Eastern Europe begins east of whichever country they live inThat's just liberals and certain flavors of "nationalist" being insecure>>16855338>less effectiveYes, but his circumstances were far less favorable>>16855406Honestly, he hasn't had much new to talk about given the style of broad scope but limited depth in his videos for years now.
>>16855420She's mid, but still would
>>16852806This is truly revolutionary though. Imagine returning the second stage from GEO or lunar orbit to LEO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Lznha9EQ0
>>16855510Elon Musk's future employees!
>>16855511https://x.com/XJosh/status/1992348701793349827
>>16855515
>>16855504Anon, it's just a ballute. They've been around since the 60s.
>>16855314Two world wars killing a shit ton of population, communism to buckbreak the rest, followed by end stage capitalism to syphon the best talent to work as plumbers in the west. Poland/Czech are doing "good" GDP wise mostly because it's cheaper to build factories there than in Germany, and anything south of them has always been corrupt since Byzantium.
>>16855522>justWe're finally doing it
>>16855314All of their energy goes into containing and repelling muscovia that wants to turn everything it touches into shit. Just like what is left of their legacy space program.It's actually a very violent and hatred filled region in the world. Outright genocidal if they are completely let off the hook
>>16855353And they are all shit, just like their tofu ghost city buildings that fall apart in less then a yearMaking Potemkin villages to fool idiots that take everything at face value. That is all they are any good at
>>16855540Chinese electric cars are not shit and they are taking over the market
>>16855546They're definitely taking over the market in the UK, everywhere I go I see like several BYDs and Jaecoo SUVs. I do wonder how many people actually know they're chinese though as they don't really advertise it for obvious reasons.
>>16855539>muscoviaDo Trans-Ukrainians really?
>>16855325Korolev was a primitive fool from Shitomyr who chased women and ran from the shadow of Glushko and who's best claim to fame was simply scaling up german V2 designs with spheres.Von Braun crafted the archetype of all future rockets with his bare hands and shortly after oversaw the development of one of Earth's most grand creations at the time
>>16855515it's errver!
>>16855522this does not look like that
I can't get over how funny it was that the chinks went to hot fire a commercial shitlauncher and it just broke free of the test stand
>>16855602"unscheduled launch successful"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8WVudbQ8aU>Starbase Weekly Preview: the remains of Booster 18!
>>16855606Is it fine to show this
>>16855608whoops
>>16855602And it flew for so long too lol
>>16855608At some point this stuff just becomes corporate espionage lol
This guy is a transport autist it's so based https://youtube.com/@cobraemergency
>>16855608It looks raped
>>16855608The big nigger transfer tube makes sense now.They can use it for boostback and landing and not worry about ice in the tanks so no big filter screen any more.
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1992627005809131722
>>16855617Holy stream of conciseness posting, what is your point Casey??
>>16855622orion sucks
>>16855608is the inner part of the booster included in that national security thing?
>>16855622NASA sucks
>>16855622Super heavy sucks
>>16855613Yeah and they give away full res of all their flyover pictures every week to patreons.China doesn't need to lift a finger.I think it's based thoughbeit
>>16855620>heatshield does heatshield things>WAAAAH SAVE ME NIGGERELONyou are the reason we will never colonize again
>>16855606>>16855608The offset landing oxygen tank is visible in some shots behind the transfer tube.This confirms it wasn't involved in the explosion as it's on the opposite side and makes it even more likely it was yet another COPV failure.
>>16855634if NIGGER LOCKHEED MARTIN conducted tests more than once a decade, then maybe you would have a pointthey actively don't want to fix it
>>16855618the size of that hole is deebly goncerning
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/1991902200579448864>ULA has announced that their next launch will be another Atlas V 551 for Amazon LEO (formerly Project Kuiper). The mission is designated LA-04, and will carry another batch of 27 satellites into space. The launch is scheduled for NET December 15th at 08:52 UTC.https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/1992630230734065985>On November 19th, ULA placed the Atlas V Common Core Booster for the LA-04 mission on the Mobile Launch Platform, kicking off the launch campaign. Including LA-04, there are 11 Atlas V launches remaining. 5 of these will be for Amazon Leo, the other 6 will be for Starliner.
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1992639283799486802>Yesterday, we flew over Booster 18 after its anomaly. >We'll be going over these images in one hour: Starbase Weekly will be live today at 12pm CST!>Angles seeing directly into the booster coming soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJGo_OQ_Kxw>Starbase Weekly, Ep.177
>>16855650SLS looks good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sooiqk_uLm4
>>16855673Least mutted american.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH SPACEX! WHY THEY WORK ON SUNDAY???
>>16855685mexicans are catholic
>>16855685The X stands for ultra hardcore
>>16855685special dispensation
>>16855608I’m kind of surprised flights over starbase are even allowed desuAlso it’s fully fucked
Discuss.
>>16855698Big rock
>>16855698will never be settled like every other planet/moonimagine painstakingly leaving the earther gravity well just to go down into the next one. Sisyphean madness. Space colonies are the one true answer for everything.
>>16855698'member when it was just a vaguely reddish painting of a sphere? I 'member
>>16855698dishonest colors. Come back when you have a real image.
>>16853657Cuase Apollo ok
>>16855453Well, yes; the "observation" on the SRB during Vulcan's second launch literally was caused by an "undetected manufacturing defect" on a nozzle insulator.
>>16855737>a nozzle insulator.oh yeah, ive worn one of those a few times.
>>16855099>artist draws woman>tranny says it's a manYou don't belong here. Rocket girls and Krystal here.
wow
>>16855751It looks like AI.
So what actually constitutes state secrecy and when are you supposed to blur shit out? Is it at the discretion of the company?I’ve seen 50% obscured, fuzzy images out of ULA’s VAB… and then contrastingly I have seen just about every part of Starship in 4k, untarnished, right there for the viewer
>>16855756SpaceX are doing this shit out in the open where anyone can fly a drone and take pictures.
>>16855756Plumbing geometry isn't covered under ITAR and pretty much all of SpaceX's confidential tech is in the manufacturing process and the software, rather than the actual output hardware. I think a lot of the stuff that gets blurred in ULA pictures is outside hardware sourced from other parts of the defense prime galaxy. I can see someone like Honeywell getting their aerospace equipment declared super secret and confidential, despite the fact that SpaceX replaced that function with something they bought from an off the shelf aerospace supplier or made in house for a fraction of the price.
>>16855762so basically the contractors use it way more than they need to so they can keep scamming and selling bolts for 10k
>>16855751uh oh someone's about to go to fuck me in the ass prison for 20 years for violating ITAR
>>16855765you'd like that wouldn't youfag
>>16855650>You are reminded Starliner exists
>>16854533radio silence from the pressure fed dumb retard in regards to blorigin
>>16855755you can't even tell AI from reality anymore, thats sad
>>16855187literally who?
>>16855187>she>space flightfuck off
Ryan Hansen SpaceIt was fairly clear this morning that the COPVs in the chine were responsible for punching a large hole in the main LOX tank and causing other nearby damage. This was obvious even before additional imagery from throughout the day supported that theory. This isn't to say that a COPV is the cause of the anomaly, but they were very likely the source of the higher energy event that destroyed B18's flight chances. Right now my thoughts are either a repeat of S36 or a high pressure line near a COPV ruptured, snapped loose, and hit a COPV causing a chain reaction. Super unfortunate for B18 but I'm sure a wealth of knowledge was gained in the build process so B19 build should be more efficient!COPV: The Rocketkillah
Let's be honest with ourselves. Starship is Elon's Spruce Goose. It might as well be made of wood at this point. Aint happenan
They need to get their asses to work. They NEED to get these things sorted out and reach orbit and try to reuse the Ship by summer (26) . Then focus HARD on fuel operations until the end of the year
>>16855783Okay
>>16855782"I've designed a new rocket! I call it the Spruce Starship, and it will carry 200 passengers from New York's Idlewild Spaceport to the Belgian Martian Colonies in 17 minutes!
>>16855776>>16855780lol at seething muskrats
Just woke up from a coma since January. Can’t wait to google and see all the work Jared Isaacman has done as NASA administrator this year!
>>16855360I thought they only needed the COPV's for spinning up the engines for relight during landing with autogenous pressurisation being for constant pressure.
Chris Combs (iterative design enjoyer)If the QC isn't good enough to keep Booster 18 intact during cryo testing, how are you ever going to reuse a Starship covered with a bajillion tiles and have faith it can rapidly transport anything (let alone humans) on a short turnaround This isn't a case of "this is why we test"...just sloppy.Damning. Heads. Spikes. Wall.
>>16855442She's pregnant right?
>>16855783The first Ship v3 ends as an expanding cloud of metallic debris over the Gulf of America. Ain't reusing nuttin.
>>16855608
>both Ship and Booster suffered catastrophic COPV failures>both Ship and Booster failed at night>both Ship and Booster failed at Masseys>both Ship and Booster were built by SpaceXThis is too much of a coincidence. This must be the work of the ULA sniper.
>>16855786yeah nice aislop retard
>>16855817>It thinks everything is AI
>>16855819Wow you're so smart
Let's make a poll, who do you like more?1 SpaceX2 Blue Origin
>>16855821In that order.
>>16855714O'Neillcucks need to shut the fuck up. We WILL explore and conquer God's universe. You will NEVER live in your rotating cuckcylinder.
>>16855717Post the true colour image then.
>>16855787Literally GFYS
When is someone working on this?
I still don't know what a COPV is even after reading about it multiple times.
>>16855827Lurk way, way more
So when will LSST start?
>>16855827same bro, i dont give a shit about rocketfaggotry
>>16855827It's a thin metal liner tank that's wrapped with lot of carbon fibers so you get the strength and lightness of carbon fiber and the impermeability and inertness of metal.>>16855832Kill yourself
>hullo is shilling merch now because he got fired from appleOH NO NO NO
>>16855837Did he? I thought he was their audio video codec wizard o algo
>>16855838yeah he said he was no longer working so he was shilling his patreon and now merch
Had a go at denoising that night pic with Deimos. There's still a lot of artifacts but oh well.
does shielding not protect a spacecraft from a copv blowing up? you cant just strap some kevlar to the side of the ship and be good to go?
>>16855845It's not that simple in notblowupery.
>>16855827>>16855832*stares at you blackly*
Give me at least two solid reasons why SpaceX shouldn't land in Deuteronilus Mensae rather than Phlegra Montes.
>>168558521) Starship can’t return from Deuteronilus Mensae2) Starship can’t get to Deuteronilus Mensae, or low Earth orbit for that matter
give me one solid reason why spacex should accidentally lose a starship right on top of the chinese moon base
>>16855314Ukraine was left with a large portion of the Soviet aerospace industry after the collapse. They were even developing a Tsyklon-4 for launch out of Newfoundland, and still had capacity to produce Zenit and Antares before they were invaded.
>>16855856It’s the other way around: China is gonna be dropping lanyue drop tanks all over artemis territory
>>16855858Fantasy lands can't be bombed though
>>16855650so no more Vulcan launches this year? GPS-III, USSF-87, and Kuiper are all waiting for rides.
>>16855845Fun Fact: TardX thinned out the Booster v3 hull even more for mass gibs. A heavy breeze will probably rip it open.
>>16855790lel nice assumption that it was a qc issuethis clearly fits the the mo of the ula sniper
>>16855857The Firefly Reaver turbomachinery and other stuff was made by Ukrainians using soviet tech, so Astra also relies on that.And RFA bought their Helix turbopumps from Yuzhmash.
>>16855863Provide proof or get monkeypox fag.
>>16855856I think HQ-29 would probably work on the moon or in near vac conditions
>>16855867Grok?>CommonSenseSkeptic -- To save mass on v3, SpaceX has made the skin even thinner, shaving it down from 4mm to 3mm, while making it bigger and heavier. We've recently had significant discussions about how SpaceX was likely exceeding the abilities of the stainless steel skin vs the milled aluminum lattice of most proper rockets. Happy Miss?
>>16855872biggest faggot in the thread award. you have to go back
>>16855873>Got owned. Cries like a little hurt girl.Every time.
>>16855875>continues posting retarded engagement baitIt's crazy you haven't killed yourself yet. What a humiliating existence for a "man".You need to go back to xitter.
>>16854290>>16854331
The Starship can produce mind-boggling failures.
>>16855883just getting all of it out of the way before the coming string of mind boggling successes
>>16855885New Glenn: Delivers two missions to orbit.Starslip: Debris scattered across two hemispheres.Pottery.
we were born too early to see oneil cylinders
>>16855893innovation is a harsh mistress
>>16855898COPV aren't exactly bleeding edge tech.
>>16855899so are valves and hydraulic fluidcauses of failures in the early falcon nine days
>>16855904Yeah because that was all outsourced to Pedro’s Engineering until they got sick of the shit failing and vertically integrated it all. COPVs have been vertically integrated for a long time now. There is no fucking excuse for pressure vessels to still be exploding after nearly two decades of using them.
>>16855907>There is no fucking excuse for pressure vessels to still be exploding after nearly two decades of using themwe'd need to know how the copv failed to say for sure it is on a new booster configuration afterall
>>16855616Ice in the methane tank was never the issue
>>16855751
>>16855932Ice in the oxygen tank.You need oxygen and methane for the boostback burn.You want to boost back from headers.So you need bigger methane downcomer and bigger oxygen header.
>>16855539>All east europe's energy goes into containing and repelling muscoviadoes Moscow parasite off their taxpayers for billions of dollars a year while dual-citizen politicians constantly clamor for more aid money and also to use their militaries to bomb anybody who is even the slightest but hesitant to bend the knee to Moscow?
Looking at the V3 booster aft section design it is extremely eccentric.I expect more issues.They got a bunch of gases and electrical running through liquid oxygen.All TVC motors recessed into the tank just like the grid fins.
>>16855608These guys don't care about national security or protecting American IP, they're literally just doing whatever they can to get the most clicks on their youtube and the most payers on Patreon. They would take commissions from China to go photograph specific pieces of hardware if it meant getting a slightly bigger paycheck (and with Patreon they're basically doing this). One of these days they're gonna step too far and get clamped down on hard; I wouldn't be surprised if they got a C&D for this or even if they got sued for something in the future.
>>16855949I don't think this is an actual problem if mexican mauricio can book a cessna flight and take images out the window.China could effortlessly do the same if they needed to (they don't they got much better ways)Although could still see SpaceX doing C&D yeah
>>16855949>These guys don't care about national security or protecting American IPNeither does the American government or American corporations, so why would they?
>>16855956Holy shit I am so demoralized now.The West must fall!
>>16855959>The West
>>16855951>I don't think this is an actual problem if mexican mauricio can book a cessna flight and take images out the window.It hasn't been a problem yet at least because they haven't taken many pics like this. Sure they've gotten a few kinda like this, but idk if they've gotten any this detailed up to now. It's not like SpaceX was expecting this sort of thing to happen; they don't publish anything close to this detailed online.
>>16855937Nice ancient meme
>>16855940>bomb anybody who is even the slightest but hesitant to bend the knee to MoscowI wish
>>16855949It’s a free country chud
>16855949Intellectual property is a spook
NEW EAGER>Starship and Artemis Shenanigans - Old Space Strikes Backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXU-kEtejUohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXU-kEtejUohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXU-kEtejUo
>>16855827Seems like some sort of regularly exploding carbon fiber pill shaped device. Kinda like that submarine that killed all those billionaires.
>1000 posts>page 10>staging failure/sfg/ is dead
https://x.com/TheSpacePirateX/status/1992794846671864068>The Soyuz-2.1a rocket carrying the Soyuz MS-28 crewed spacecraft is being rolled out to the launch pad at Baikonur Cosmodrome.
why would spacex do this to us?
hello /sfg/?
>>16856041goodnight anon
Staging >>16856051>>16856051>>16856051
>>16856024What anime is that suppose to be?
>>16855483don't you mean PEElon?
>>16856024heh. Very appropriate, considering "Blame!" was mistranslated from BLAM, the explosive sound of his graviton beam gun (or an exploding COPV).
>>16855823(((you))) will live in ze marspod and dig minerals or some shit like a good goyslave and never leave your shitty mudpile.[[[[We]]]] will conquer the universe and rule from our comfy 1g (or less, because fuck being heavy) cylinders like GOD intended, bombing our subjects in the gravity well whenever they need a reminder to behave.You may now seethe.
