If free will is an illusion why do I struggle ordering sandwiches
>>16853117Free will is determinism allowing you to take advantage of the possibilities—but only one will inevitably be chosen. Science still doesn’t know what to call this. “Free will” isn’t good enough for autistic people, apparently.
Free will being an illusion is irrelevant since from our perspective we’re still making decisions freely.
even if we had free will i still believe hard determinism is the thing that allows it in the first place - otherwise there would be no choices to make or determine
The illusion of free will IS free will. That feeling, or struggle, of making choice is what we free will. Even if our choices are ultimately predetermined, we are still given a selection to choose from. The many worlds interpretation assumes any choices you didn’t make are a whole set of completely different universes.
>>16853117you have the freedom of choice, we all do. what matters is the number of choices we have. you have one icecream flavor? you either get it or not. you can choose to get it. or not. you have this freedom. dont' know why people are so confused about this
>>16853117It's the social interaction, not the choice making, Tubbs O'Meow.I want pickles and jalapenos but they aren't included if you say "with everything" and I can't look the sandwich order taker person in the eye to fix my order if I fuck it up.
>>16853117you're being influenced by fine micro-structures that physically exist but cannot be modeled because classical analysis uses limits to smooth away fine structure and turns it into "discontinuity" or "gaps" or whatever, and we're left with a big fat fucking nothing to actually explain what's happening at fine scales. This is why quantum physicists believe everything is truly random, because with current analysis you cannot even model infinitesimal objects, limits don't allow you to do this and tell you such things cannot even exist in nature, even though we know they do (black holes exist).
Free will is like the illusion of color.As long as I perceive it, it is.Now, the real interesting question is, "what is wavelength in our analogy?". That is, what it the underlying physically measurable phenomenon that we perceive of as free will?That's the good juice.
>>16853117Tubbs O'Meow, Tubbs O'MeowHe's as fat as a cow.Wonders why, but now how.Prolly die from a heart attack.
