>>16854047You can research brain activity in new borns, there's a ton of different numbers. As for consciousness it's hard to tell, because we don't know how consciousness works
>>168540472 weeks
>>16854047Babies are pretty dumb
>>16854047>at which point in its build process does a chair become a chairreality is an analog spectrum, things are not as clearly quantized, there's transition periods where things are murky
I guess at age 3
>>16854047About 3 months after birth.
>>16854047Bout three minutes and fiddy seconds in
>>16854047Any intelligent person would take this as a rhetorical question meant to illustrate a misunderstanding of consciousness by forcing one to draw an obviously arbitrary line. But to soience goons this is something to do a stoody about. :^)
>>16854055Nah, 2 more weeks, 4.
>>16856208I Xd'd irl
>fetusThe only moment one can say consciousness is formed is when the being formulates a thought on their own existence in relation to the world and vice versa.
From ones first memory
>>16854047They test animals self awareness by putting a sticker on the animals head then putting the animal in front of a mirror and seeing if the animal tries to remove the sticker. I believe it's just called the Mirror Test. Could they not put a sticker on the fetuses head then put a mirror up the woman's vagina to perform the same test?
>>16854057>Babies are pretty dumbBabies are non-vocal geniuses.But I have no CV lue how to measure Deep Baby Thonks vs. Big Baby Poops.
>>16854047BeingIsAwareOf beingThinking is verbalMost don't even get that far
>>16856397>Thinking is verbal Kek.
>>16856398YepVerbs override senses and propel concepts to discover Platonic forms. Illiterate primitives cannot wield awareness of form. They have formless slop thoughts so bad they cannot count or scale or schedule.
>>16856328Not stable over time. What I remember as my "first memory" is more colored by the retellings that the original experience.Not even sure I could define my "first" memory. I get so many fleeting non-verbal moments induced by smells and sounds.
>>16856401>so many verbalsSo few thoughts.
>>16854047The cow is born a complete cowThe boy is born a total dependent work in progress
>>16856405Such a bad reader
>>16856413>123 college males>read muh animal studiesJHFC, it's retarded.
>>16856411Cows learn so much faster than you do, Anon. It only seems genetic to you.
The question has two answers:Is there basic awareness? Immediately in every anatomic receptor and primordial memory of life history. Is there prompt report response that is intelligible to prove understanding? You barely get that from toddlers. People casually treat the fractal that is your brain as both in one suitcase word. >>16856415>>16856416Absolute niggers go back to Africa you lot
>>16856420>those fractal brains think they've cornered smooth-brained meWow. Dude self-owned himself recursively.
>>16856439How many wrinkles in the brain does it take to shut your bitch ass up, Mr Consciousness ?
>>16856636>am i talking to myself?>no, that's the other guy in here with me
>>16854047Its not until they get blasted with the hallucinogenic compound called air for a few months that they fully develop a conscious experience.
>>16854047When its moving in fetus. Thats basically basic consciousness training to understand the basics of sensing and motion.
Bold of you to assume conciousness develops within the womb.
>>16858005Is it really a raw assumption or a conclusion based on the fact that fetuses can kick back when pressured?
>>16854047Is it male or female?
>>16854047When the coom penetrates the egg.
>>16854047the mind is there from day one but it takes years to develop an interface with the bodyby around age 7 you are fully conscious
>>16854047Consciousness does not exist in a physical level, it is a term not an object, therefore can not be observed with scientific means.This is a question for /lit/ not here.
As soon as the lungs form. I know because I remember being in the womb and I became conscious when my lungs formed.You're welcome.Lol.
>>16854047about 3 years post-birth
>>16856413>Such a bad reader>source is AIslophave you considered suicide?
>>16854047Theory of mind develops at age 4
>>16854047Just read this anon
>>16854047nigga, i'm not entirely convinced babies are conscious
>>16860275Have you ever tried to choke and/or shake a baby and see if it reacts?
>>16854047When do humans become conscious and sentient? Fucking never. You are all fucking retarded.
>>16860032I was conscious and forming memories at my 3rd birthday party.
>>16854047Week 28-34 as sensory and memory is developed enough.
when it is able to speak coherently
>>16854047Consciousness is an illusion
the moment the balls fill with piss
>>16862608spoken like a mathsfag who denies his own existence to worship platonic forms
The spermazoid is already conscious
>>16854047At conception is the only defensible position. I HECKIN' LOVE BASEDIENCE!
>>16862608How could you possibly come to be aware that you are illusory without being conscious?
>>16862608Even if your entire life is some kind of demonic acid trip or a Boltzmann brain hallucination, consciousness is the one and only thing that always stays
>>16856398Try to develop and build complex engineering or science without verbal and mathematical thoughts you mong
>>16854047Probably around appearance of brain waves in the fetus, around 20 weeks gestation.
>>16861363Automatic self preservation reactions
>>16854047>consciousnessyou to define it first
>>16865097>ach-chually ... you need to DEFINEJust as soon as you define 'define'.
>>16854047We gotta think outside the confines of language. Smaller than a computer. Bigger than a platonic set.
>>16865365>he has linguistically defined the confines of languageGoo goo gaga gabagai pilled
>>16854047no data to make a conclusion
>>16865467What about >>16858048 and just testing if they kick back and determining which stage of development they have enough awareness to kick to back when poked?
>>16856328>Could they not put a sticker on the fetuses head then put a mirror up the woman's vagina to perform the same test?Doesn't seem entirely necessary since 1 year olds don't pass the test.
>>16865097Subjective awareness of objects. Consciousness involves the recognition that one is a subject for which objects (either internal mental ones, or external physical ones) are to be presented as knowledge.
>>16867032>subjective>awareness>recognition>presented as knowledgefeel free to define all of this now
>>16862559>Niggers aren't conscious
>>16854047let me ask my discor rabb- priest, I mean priest
>>16862608>Consciousness is an illusion!>But math is totally real!>Fictitious forces are fake!>Virtual particles are real!Bro, what billions... no trillions of parallel universes are born and split off from each other every second of every day, and we can use strings to warp spacetime so we can see ourselves in the past! BASED SCIENCE
Depends on the individual. Sometimes they never do even 80 years in.
It's not an on and off switch, there is no proper beggining and end, a baby is not conscious like you are and you are not 100% conscious right now either. We are literally, realistically, unironically, just an universal infinite consciousness that aggregates around a body like water drops latching to grains of salt and then after 80 or so years we dissolve back.
>>16867037>>subjectiveCharacteristic of one prone to obedience. This is obvious if you notice the prefix sub attached to jective >>awarenessWatchful. Vigilant. Observing. >>recognitionTo resume possession of land. Surprised? Think of recognizance >>knowledgeTo observe a superior or higher being. Surprised again? Think about carnal knowledge and strip away the carnal. Any more questions?
>>16856401>Thinking is verbal>Illiterate primitives have formless slop thoughts, they cannot count or scale or schedule.
