“Everything that happens is predetermined, down to your thoughts and the breaths you take, but that doesn’t mean you should go around doing bad things”Do these people even listen to themselves?
questions about free will is a 2d being looking into 4d, it's meaningless
If I genuinely believed I had no free will I would kill myself. In fact I think it's the only moral thing to do in that frame of reference.
>>16859736Based on that jew atheist retard's beliefs that conclusion does not follow from the premises. They believe at the quantum level there is true randomness, so nothing could be predetermined. A random and consequential input to any system will always result in random output, always. Something random cannot be predetermined because it wouldn't be random anymore, duh.
Maybe he tried to say that there's still should be justice that prevents such behavior in deterministic manner. It's called preventive paradigm, I don't remember exactly, fix me
>>16859752I think they mean that all the choices you make in life are based on personal biases. You're not making random choices because everything you do is based on biases you've acquired through life
>>16859736Determinism justifies all behavior. Murder, rape, genocide, pedophilia, veganism, anything. If you hold a genuine belief in determinism, you have no right to criticise any form of behavior.
>>16859736they don't know. they have no idea what the words they are using even mean. they are basically manipulative automatons who have been programmed from birth by the lizard people to destroy the planet with their nihilistic ideologies and philosophies of life
>>16859736Even in purely deterministic world humans would still have free live because they operate on incomplete information with countless faults. How free it is can be left to a meaningless debate. For animals it is harder to tell since they tend to pick the optimal approach to things. Humans instead chase the maximum possible reward which makes them do the most retarded of decisions on the off chance that it actually might work.
i believe in prepaid will
>>16859895the definition of reward varies, like a person might want to fap their whole life and another might want to be a doctor
>>16859915based
>>16859736flawed understanding of causality and personal responsibility
>>16859834Quote says "everything that happens" so it's more than just choicesChoices are definitely biased based on brain chemisry and genetics though, and a little bit of upbringing. Potatoniggers are more prone to alcoholism for instance and it's not even questionable that it's due to genetics. Most pornstar prostitutes were sexually abused as kids and that biased their choice towards entering porn etcBias isn't the same as "predetermined"
>>16859736>“Everything that happens is predetermined, down to your thoughts and the breaths you take, but that doesn’t mean you should go around doing bad things”As much as I hate this type, they're not wrong to point out that determinism has no bearing on what counts as acceptable behavior. Some people (e.g. you) are too stupid to see it on their own, so the intention there is to steer your flawed cognitive process away from a wrong conclusion that will harm you and others the same way you divert a train to a new track. Manipulating you with thinly-veiled moralizing rhetoric works out under their framework. There is no contradiction.
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