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I'm racially (as in descending from the slaves and their masters) african-american, so this topic perturbs me particularly.

I'll often peek into and sometimes speak in "chud" spaces, and one thing I've seen an increasing amount of is the claim that american "blacks" are actually becoming dumber. From what little I've seen, this phenomenon seems to be limited to big cities, and noticing just how fertile the dumbest of "black" women are, I'm willing to bet that the cause is just immigration. I'm still concerned, though, because I also know that our mean iq *seems* to have stopped increasing in the early 2000's after reaching 88: I recall a counter study to a claim that we now had an average of 93 in 2010's?(I actually don't remember where I read it nor when it was published) showing that there was no increase from 88 when age was standardized, so I don't see an actual decline as impossible. Then again, immigration could've also acted to mask any gains that have occurred since then..

Regardless, I'd like your input.
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>>16862951
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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>>16862953
Dissapointed.
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Hello anon
Im just a Chud but I would say the Low IQ alonsdies the high fertility makes sense you can look at some African nations like somalia with a really low IQ and they have 6 to 7 kids on average

Though IQ is almost based on backgrounds rich poor etc these play a bigger role but we are seeing a trend in Africa (they're poor low IQ and corrupt)

Dear anon excuse my English and being stupid thanks
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>>16862951
pretty much everything's diverging, culturally speaking
if you try to tie numbers to an evolving system they're going to be all over the place
because we lack a good enough model of the human-psychosocial construct, what is intelligence?
I'd say attracting your preferred gender and kissing and holding hands and stuff is a part of intelligence
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American immigrants generally do better because they have the means and or health to move and will work for less.
Pisa scores have gone up to if that means anything
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>>16862953
No the question is: How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday
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>>16862951
If black people aren't stupid, how come all the predominantly black countries in the Caribbean are without exception all shitholes on par with any random sub Saharan African country? Is it coincidence? Is it socioeconomic factors? Is it white man bad?
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>>16863188
> If black people aren't stupid

What? I never claimed otherwise.
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>>16862951
The reverse flynn effect is an observation happening in many places where the flynn effect originally took place. That will include african americans. If you saw someone saying it was only happening to them they were lying.
It has to do with the standardized score, which is always redone with a new sample of people.
Immigrants from the third world would lower the standardization if they were apart of the sample but this was first discovered in studies from the 90s in western europe before mass immigration had become really rampant.
Meaning that this is likely happening because of genetic and environmental factors, falling even further due to the mass immigration happening simultaneously.
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>>16862953
But I did have breakfast this morning. Can you please clarify further what you mean?
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>>16862951
African americans will die out anyway so who cares.
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>>16865077
Thoughts on the future of the huwhite race?
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>>16862951
NIGGER
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>>16862951
it's all going according to plan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4
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>I'm willing to bet that the cause is just immigration.
More like the amount of single mothers hooking up with dark skin drug dealers
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>>16865612
Another reason I believe it is immigration are the actual numbers being toted. People are *supposedly* starting to score in the 70's and even under, which is an absurdly sudden drop.
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>>16862951
east africans look the best
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>>16862953
hungry
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>>16863188
>how come all the predominantly black countries in the Caribbean are without exception all shitholes
Barbados, Bahamas, Aruba, Saint Kitts and Nevis aren't shitholes
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>>16862951
Nigga, be sure to rest your feet when you’re finished tap dancing in this thread
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>>16866381
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>>16864113
>Meaning that this is likely happening because of genetic and environmental factors, falling even further due to the mass immigration happening simultaneously.
Nah. The guys juat pushed the updated score to high. It always fluctuates for IQ tests so so years people "score" higher, others lower. It's an unavoidable part if the testing because you effectively have to predict where the next appropriate benchmark to use as a comparison.
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>>16862951
They have it far too easy. Simple as.
There is a reason why higher IQ populations are found in countries that had a brutal history of warfare, genocide and mass starvation.
The Romans helped a lot to raise the IQ of whole Europe. The germs and brits were effectively subhuman beasts, hundredths of thousands were killed, the rest enslaved. Those with higher IQ survived, those who couldn't provide value for their owners starved to death, those who could only do physical labor were sent to the mines to be worked to death, rebels were fed to the circus beasts or crucified.
Now look at the place were people had it easier according to their own verbal tradition: Australia, and therefore the people with the lowest IQ.
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>>16862951
I would expect 2 effects each in opposite directions.
Both stemming from welfare utilization.
Better nutrition is probably responsible for the flynn effect we observed across the board.
The reversal of flynn is probably the obvious dysgenics kicking in (idiocracy).
I would caution trusting modern treatments of the subject of black iq since it is such a third rail issue.
The error is likely in the direction of overstating black iq since liberals wish the gap didn't exist and any lack of improvement is an implicit admission of failure of the liberal efforts to close the gap (of course they are inclined to give themselves a good grade).
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>dude we took a mean average of every face
This is basically the stupidest waste of time in the entire domain of facial dynamics.
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>>16869679
The thing most chuds are incapable of understanding is that all these effects played out statistically over very large sets, and that the *actual difference* in IQ between the various subgroups did not vary by much. Indeed, the *rate of difference of IQ between individuals within any given subgroup* still exceeds the average difference in IQ between competing groups. This concept is too complex and difficult for chuds to understand the ramifications of, or why their short term racial-political beliefs are insufficient interpretations of reality.
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>>16869679
>The germs and brits were effectively subhuman beasts
Completely wrong. Stop taking Roman propaganda at face value.
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>>16869702
Make this argument regarding the differences in height between men and women and you'll quickly see the sophism behind it.
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>>16869702
>these effects played out statistically over very large sets
>the *actual difference* in IQ between the various subgroups did not vary by much.
I like how LLMs still can't write a sentence without directly contradicting themselves. ASI in Two More Weeks,
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>>16869685
>The error is likely in the direction of overstating black iq
Extremely unlikely.
>liberals wish the gap didn't exist and any lack of improvement is an implicit admission of failure of the liberal efforts to close the gap
Why shoehorn shitty politics into it?
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>>16869845
>Extremely unlikely.
Extremely likely given how the highly motivated lying around the subject in favor of browns.

>Why shoehorn shitty politics into it?
He's not. He's just remarking on your Talmudic politics which are invoked by the OP.
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>>16869845
>Why shoehorn shitty politics into it?
Prove politics wasn't already playing a role.
Even the cucked jewgle ai says you are retarded.
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>>16869858
>highly motivated lying around the subject in favor of browns.
Such a strange belief to espouse.
>He's just remarking on your Talmudic politics which are invoked by the OP.
Lmao you have nothing os substance to say.

>>16869951
You posted Ai slop as some form of gotcha? How much of a loser are you?
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>>16869957
I'm just here to note that I can tell what race you are and so can everyone else. At this point your kvetching about anuddah shoah is a very realistic concern. Consider migrating.
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black drug dealers seem to have the most kids

you’d figure being semi successful at selling drugs in some shit hole like Philadelphia or Baltimore would be g loaded and would lead to a somewhat eugenic effect on the blacks, yet here we are
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>>16870082
>you’d figure being semi successful at selling drugs in some shit hole like Philadelphia or Baltimore would be g loaded
It is. You don't seriously believe nigglers control the drug trade, do you?
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>>16870086
I’m saying even the rank and file lower level nogs selling heroin and coke by nickel and dime bag amounts should be smarter than the average nig but it seems they aren’t
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>>16870112
>selling heroin and coke by nickel and dime bag amounts should be smarter than the average nig
Why? Exactly what intellectual prowess does it take to redistribute drugs to your friends and neighbors?
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>>16870114
keeping inventory
counting
planning ahead
saving enough money for bail

yes all these little things require marginal brain power
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>>16870116
>keeping inventory
>counting
>saving enough money for bail
You can teach motivated 85 IQs to do these things.

>planning ahead
People who plan ahead don't peddle drugs on the streets.
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*GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG*
BUUUUUUUUUUURP
*tosses empty 5 gallon jug to the floor*
*wipes mouth*
Ahhh... now that I've wet my whistle with a little sip of Jamal's finest DNA, let's talk about how chuds are incapable of reading scientific papers o algo
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>>16869685
>The error is likely in the direction of overstating black iq

I really doubt that. The 85 figure would be supported by people in the past producing results nearing that regardless of their politics, and the 88 figure was also reproduced in response to someone using tricks(IQ is less genetic in youth) to bump up our average score.



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