Why did private space industry fail?
>>16863310Because everyone knows NASA has been embezzling most of their money for decades, so anything was better than NASA. The alternative we got was a man who's more interested in being a meme lord and another man who wanted a giant penis rocket to impress his bogged wife
>>16863318NASA delivered results though.
Because nobody cares about space. Only AI matters right now.
>>16863310SpaceX is the only good thing he's done
>>16863318>NASA has been embezzling most of their money for decades
Because space research was always a cover for ICBM development and the real money is in the military industrial complex and nobody told the jackasses trying to get to Mars because they hate poor people.
>>16863310>space industrynone of this has mattered since the cold war/space race
>>16863319Would could have had 10x more results
>India made it to the moon alreadyLook at me, I am the global super power now.
>>16863310Because outside of astroid mining (won't happen in our lifetime), it's pretty much a waste of time. Desolate planets, literal lightyears-wide voids as a regular and life is so obviously just a human construct built to make our "lives" feel meaningful therefore there's probably not aliens in any conventional sense. Space has always been a boomer meme. A bunch of retards wasting billions to go from one wet pebble to a more inhospitable pebble. People are ready to ignore it at this point.
>>16863605>wont happen in our lifetimeIts a possibility within 10 years. https://www.transastra.comThis company has figured out how it can be done with small near earths, as well as space junk.Theres multiple space projects now which should drop launch costs to closer to air freight. Starship is one of them. But theres others:https://www.ioaircraft.com/hypersonic/discovery-218.php>>16863450My hope is the MICs of various countries will focus on space resource extraction and keep wars off of the earth because theres far more resources in space.The moon and asteroids have shale rock and rare earths and platinum group metals. Enough to make everyone abundantly rich. There wont be a collapse or ww3.
>>16863605It will be necessary to setup a Mars base one day, but not for literally like a billion years when the sun starts to mess with us. With the money Elon wants to spend on his Mars base he could have built a gigantic bunker on earth and probably save far more people if there was some global catastrophe
>>16863708>resources in spacewill never be worth itmore likely case is the resources stay in spaceEven if you get prices competitive with terrestrial mining, any buyer who wants resources sent to earth will be competing with buyers who want to process/manufacture in orbit and stay in space.The latter group will stand to save way more so they will bid up prices for terrestrial buyers.It will always be more costly than the cost of terrestrial mining being shipped into orbit.
>>16863874>necessary But impossible. Humanity will end either from a some ultra deadly virus, Earth boiling or Earth getting cracked open and scorched by a huge asteroid. This is how we die, and there's no escape from that to the point you might as well not care. Healthy human nature is to be concerned about first your family, then your local population (ethnicity), and that concern spans your lifetime and at most lifetime of your grandkids and occasionally grand-grandkids. Muh space muh but how about humanity in gorillion years!!! is a liberal meme.
>>16863605This is such a doomer sentiment. Space holds an insane amount of value and the only reason why we don't have giant space stations and extraterrestrial colonies and all that was cause humanity didn't go down that path. Space offers resources that are rare on Earth like Helium-3, Microgravity (a lot of medical/scientific products need this for production), lunar or martian regolith, and an insane amount of metals. Not only that even with the limited space travel we had in our own world it brought us>Memory Foam>Microwaves>GPS>Lasers>Satellites>Digital Technology>Lithium Batteries>Better Solar Energy >Better Understanding on Human AnatomySpace as been so forgotten people now think the moon landing was faked or space simply exists to give you an existential crisis. Imagine a world where instead of the Apollo program being cut and Space being an afterthought, it became the new frontier that JFK and the 1960s world envisioned.
>>16863310No. Elon cannot fail. Government gave up on space to pursue the requisite defense against the Democrats trying to create a totalitarian global state.
>>16863708Asteroid mining is a meme. And most rare earths are only "rare" in terms of ppm. They're fucking all over the place, you just need to set up specialized facilities to concentrate them. Specialized facilities that would be a thousand thousand times cheaper than fucking asteroid mining.
I gotta agree with the doomer here, but not because of financial interest, more like just interest in general. Like, space is boring. Zoomers are right not to give a shit about outer space. It's just sci-fi made up bullshit that doesn't really matter. It never did either. It was always a meme right from the beginning.
>>16863310>>16863318>>16863445>>16863321>>16863450>>16863605>>16863708>>16864243>>16864281The private space industry failed for the exact same reason *all* space industry has failed: the fundamental long-term rewards and motives for space exploration cannot be justified through the lens of most conventional modern scarcity market values. Governments and businesses hear engineers talk about the benefits of Asteroid Mining and all they hear is, "Wow, this guy wants to make all my gold fucking WORTHLESS. FOREVER." and promptly tell them to fuck off. Most, if not all, of the achievements of "Space People" have been vehicles for weapons development, telecommunication/meteorological infrastructure, and a little bit of tourism. Projects that're either for defense, housekeeping, or conscious consumption for the wealthy. AI is a good example of the exact opposite. AI people like Elon and Peter Thiel, can endlessly lie, exaggerate, and upsell, the (hypothetical) benefits of AI because in the investors/owners mind if even 1/10th of those goals come to fruition they've fundamentally, immensely, and permanently, benefitted themselves. Think indefinite proprietary control over information, media production (movies, films, animation, book), the service industry, surveillance, etc.. That entirely cuts out everyone who isn't at the bottom or the top. Forever.
>>16864324Not to go too far off topic but the funny thing about the dream of using AI to eliminate the masses is that AI requires extensive infrastructure that's both expensive and fragile. The manufacturing of the support infrastructure requires a huge economy made up of large numbers of highly skilled workers. The dream of course is to make it closed loop, where AI controlled robots do the physical work while AI retains all the knowledge of how to keep the system running. Neither is plausible in the near or medium term. In the long term? That requires the existence of a large, productive, skilled workforce to continue to exist until the loop is closed. AI will have imploded that system long before the loop is complete.That doesn't mean that Musk, Altman, and the rest of the tech sociopaths aren't going to keep trying. Even if they don't eventually get strung up by a mob, the time required to close the loop, especially in light of a crumbling middle, is far longer than their lifespans. No doubt they dream of some sort of electronic brain that will give them immortality but that's barely the subject of science fiction, much less something possible soon. None of them are doing much beyond token statements saying it is something desirable to have.
>>16863708Countries fight wars not only for resources. In many cases it's just to keep other countries poor.Your government will look bad if your standart of living is below other countries. And the often solution is just to bomb inti a medieval times any country that makes any progress.
>>16863310I wasn't aware that it did. Space-X is slated to have a 800 Billion market cap and it doesn't even trade on an exchange. It could be a scam by Elon to get paid to put a lot of junk in low orbit then start another "satellite management" company to get paid to clean up his own mess.
>>16863310Space exploration is not a profit driven field, it's a humanitarian one so it'll never work in a business sense. The day we feasibly start mining asteroids is the day that money as a concept basically disappears.
>>16864365It's funny, there is the possibility of advancing enough to build out that infrastructure in space. Having unlimited solar with no interruption as well as resources that could be sourced and made and assembled in space would seem like the perfect platform for an overwrought spellchecker.
>>16864996Imagine the AI paperclip problem but instead it makes nothing but O'Neill cylinders that no one survives to use.
>>16863310Sorry but we all know how each of them are this is not the 80s but you are.
>>16863310>Why did private space industry fail?SpaceX launched more rockets than the rest of the world this year. If thats failing, I can't wait to see winning.
>>16867474I shit my pants at least ten times a week. if that's failing I can't wait to see winning.Your mom could get porked by ten negros but if she don't get pregnant than they all failed at fertility. Show me some success and then I'll let you suck the electric jew off, you faggot.
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