So this is the real reason for the war on drugs, huh? Can't have us peasants live longer and happier lives by "abusing" psychedelics.As if the preliminary studies that indicated a wide range of mental boons weren't promising enough. Who would have thought that tuning in and dropping out was actually legit this whole time?At this point, I am willing to bet that future studies will show that it can even increase average IQs long-term by virtue of inhibiting cerebral atrophy, which of course is very relevant to /sci/.
>>16864625Druggie cannot maintain a positive reputation for no reason.
>>16864625Please provide a link the study that contains the presented image.
>>16864642https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-025-00244-x
>he doesn't know about research chemicals>he doesn't know that 4-AcO-DMT is nearly identical to shrooms>he doesn't know that 1P-LSD is just LSD with a few extra atoms to male it legal
>I'm going to live to 100 thanks to shroo-ACKhttps://youtu.be/4_k_vVeckpQ
>>16864625Timothy Leary the 60s Psycilosybin / LSD advocate died at age 75 of prostate cancer. There is no evidence he learned anything or was granted better health by taking psychedelic drugs. He was just a burned out druggie at the end. Albert Hoffman the man credited with discovering LSD did live to be 102 though.
>>16864781>Alcoholic develops cancer later in lifeMany such cases.
>>16864625based shroomhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A
>>16864625Is this why druggies always look so young and healthy?
>>16864988Yes.https://youtu.be/G2KsIhvQjzo
>>16864723nobody takes DMT or DMT prodrugs every day lolyou're the kind of little smarmy shit who's trying to get aspirin bannedfuck you
>>16864721>a few extra atomsA few extra atoms can make a lot of difference
>>16864625L-Ergothionine might potentially be beneficial for slowing down the aging process mushrooms themsevles don't.
>>16864988top lmao, but to be fair, there's kind of no such thing as shroom only druggie
>>16865064>A few extra atoms can make a lot of differenceIs that how materialists justify having children?
>>16864625Be cautious with mouse studies showing increased survival.The mice are prone to cancer so poisons/toxins that act like chemotherapy will also show increased survival.
>>16864781what are you even saying? that LSD hasnt made him immune to prostate cancer? and yes good old albert got ito he three digits and stayed very sharp for a long time
I keep reading about "scientists" using psychedelic drugs like they are a panacea. As if there's some conspiracy or something stupid like that holding everyone back. Allegedly acid cures everything, allegedly ketamine makes you not depressed or whatever. I want to know where this trend came from.
>>16865599It came from researchers finally getting permission to study psychedelics for theraputic purposes, and it turning out they work pretty well.
>>16865599ah yes, "scientists" that are just known for trivial stuff like discovering the double helix structure of DNA or developing PCR. stupid druggies.
>>16865608>>16865610There's a difference between finding the double helix, and smoking pot all day long claiming you found the cure for cancer.
>>16865611then how is it different to tripping balls on acid and suddenly realizing that its a double helix? because thats how he described how he solved it
>>16865613Almost certain there's more to the story than tripping balls and seeing something so profound.
>>16865620dude weed bros will have dude weed thoughts when highbrilliant scientists can be able to connect thoights and gain novel insights that can catalyse their workits powerful tools for the right minds and yes, it has immense therapeutic value too, as you can see from all the studies that MAPS is publishing now
>>16865599honestly just try it, it probably won't make you start agreeing with those people but you'll understand why they think that
>>16865630I have, and it didn't give me a mind's eye, I took out my pen and paper and wrote gibberish. Nothing made sense.
>>16865117Kek.
>>16865611Go look up the trials of MDMA for PTSD, ibogaine for addiction, LSD and psilocybin for anxiety and depression. Absolutely no-one is saying anything about weed other than you.
>/sci/ gets filtered by the idea that chemicals can do useful effects on your body and mind even if the Talmud classifies them as "illegal drugs"
>>16865758psychedelics were heretic for a long time and you got excommunicated for openly talking about them. it hasn't reached everyone yet, that you're allowed to do research about them now
>>16865944>psychedelics were heretic for a long time and you got excommunicated for openly talking about them.Largely as a legacy of early Christcuckery subjugating Europe. If you're white your ancestors probably ate amanita muscaria for breakfast.
>>16864721It's not legal in the eu. The moment you pay for it, authorities will be tracking you.In Lt you get prison sentence just for paying for it. No need for the police to wait for thw delivery.No, shitcoins won't change anything. It's all can be traced
>>16865957when albert hoffmann researched the mexican psilocybe mushroms, there was a mountain farmer who visited told him about psilocybe semilanceata growing in the cow pastures. he analyzed those and found the same compounds. that farmer knowing abou them indicates knowledge and use of the native liberty caps surviving in secret into modern times. I wouldn't be surprised if it went back to celts and germanic tribes using them since antiquity.
>>16864625>So this is the real reason for the war on drugs, huh?Almost certainly a coincidence. I can't think of a SINGLE other controlled substance with lifespan extension evidence, and I can think of plenty of un-scheduled molecules (even including broccoli extracts now) with lifespan extension evidence.Highly doubt there was even evidence shrooms extend lifespan back when they got scheduled.>>16865143NAC did a good job giving mice lung cancer but still extended their lifespans, now it appears to prevent lung cancer in humans and also acts is chemotherapy.>>16865599Ketamine ack-shilly a fake anti-depressant according to the latest research.>>16865071This but some bacteria can turn it into TMAO.
>>16865997I'm UK not EU but I've bought loads of psychedelics off darknet markets without a problem. Monero is untraceable. More likely to get in trouble via the postal service/customs than the payment.
>>16864721>he doesn't know that 4-AcO-DMT is nearly identical to shroomsKeyword "nearly". Real organisms are complex far beyond anything we can manufacture for centuries to come. You can isolate one particular component and create a similar chemical version but that's just one of countless compounds contained in the real thing.
>>16865599>Allegedly acid cures everything, allegedly ketamine makes you not depressed or whatever. I want to know where this trend came from.The average modern person is so aggressively shut off from their subconscious that forcing them to interact with it via psychedelic drugs can be a very beneficial experience. These people could get the same effect through other methods like meditation but those require time and effort, something that the average modern person is very allergic to.Most of these studies showing positive effects are just the result of giving these drugs to normies and them realizing for the first time in their lives that they have been living on autopilot and have never engaged with their own minds except on the most basic, surface level. They've spent their lives thinking that their mind is a shallow pool, and a hefty dose of psychedelics plunges them 20 feet underwater and shows them that there's no bottom.Introspective people already know this, of course, which is why the>omg it completely changed my lifepeople are always normies who inevitably forget the experience, never learn anything from it, and go back to their NPC routines.
>>16866097this is all true but wouldnt you rather live in a world where npcs have a chance to gain some level of sentience?
>>16865561>what are you even saying? that LSD hasnt made him immune to prostate cancer?yeah OP was suggesting psychedelics extend life span so somebody who took lots of them over decades should have a longer life span but 75 is average.
>>16866095Don't know about this DMT but with the LSD analogues, they usually are composed of LSD and some non-functional group that's broken off in the first steps of the metabolism and stays inert, and then you have normal LSD in your bloodstream.>>16866097If you were as spiritually in tune as you want to come across, you wouldn't be so egoic as to brag about having come to it by your own devices, and how normies are stoopid etc.
>>16865997Can you remind me where the Netherlands are?>>16866012Yes ancient people got high when they could with what they had, and yes some chemical compounds can be found in different fungi. Not sure what your point is tough. >>16866091This or the Netherlands. The larger Dutch cities have entire industries dedicated to providing drugs to tourists. That and prostitution too.
>>16866253>Not sure what your point is tough.psilocybin use is traditional european and even survived the church
>>16865610Next you're gonna tell me that smoking weed makes you win olympic medals.
>>16866461again with the weed, the whole thread is about tryptamines. but weed is useful for things like pain management and reducing weigh loss during chemo. read up on the published research. theres a lot of it by now
>>16864625Anon, a US population with higher IQ would damage Israel's interests, therefore is antisemitic. Do you want your smartphone to explode in your face?
>>16865624>brilliant scientists can be able to connect thoights and gain novel insights that can catalyse their workMore brilliant discoveries have been made while taking a shit or shower than while tripping.
>>16866387And where's your source for that claim? A misunderstanding of a thing some Mexican farmer once said?Why would it be important for shrooms to be "traditional European" to begin with?
>>16866550the source is that there was knowledge by the SWISS farmer about the native psilocybe mushrooms.and its important, because it means they are part of european culture for a long time and not just a recent import from the americas
>>16866252>If you were as spiritually in tune as you want to come across, you wouldn'tDon't confuse honesty with egotism. There's no virtue in speaking poorly of yourself just to avoid some people seeing you as "egoic".I never said anything about doing anything on my own, nor did I call normal people stupid. Those are both your additions.
>>16866567Medieval people also knew about Claviceps in rye which is basically LSD, and there were dozens of plants available to medieval Europeans to get high one way or another. Absynth was famous for the hallucinogenic plants they put in it.Again, why should the origin of the mushroom even matter? Imo if it's too harmful it should be banned whether it's part of our culture or not, otherwise it should be allowed no matter where it came from.
>>16866598>Absynth was famous for the hallucinogenic plants they put in it.Complete bullshit btw.
>>16866600eh its barely true, wormwood is famous for being basically the most mild hallucinogen mankind knows about and its the main ingredient in absinthe (the particular wormwoods latin name is artemisia absinthium)but yes its bullshit because the alcohol in the drink is probably 5x more psychoactive.>>16866598you are repeating 1800s french winemaker propaganda. they saw their profits drop because an alternative became popular and then banded together to ban it. it was still banned in half the world a decade or so ago. >Claviceps [] is basically LSDi stopped reading your post here btw, this is so far from the truth im surprised that routers fact checkers arent knocking on your door
>>16866461yer god damn right.
