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The qaratic was deemed impossible to solve until the 16th century and this jewish galois chud allegedly says this image right here is not possible to solve.
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>not possible to solve
in closed form
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>>16866872
elaborate
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>>16866873
there is no general equation that, given the coefficients of a quintic, gives you the zeros of the quintic
contrast to e.g. a quadratic polynomial whose zeros are given by the two equations of the quadratic formula
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>>16866871
Solvability of roots of polynomials is equivalent to the solubility of a certain group of permutations of the roots. Since the permutation group of 5 symbols contains an insoluble subgroup, viz. the subgroup of all even permutations, the result follows fairly easily by just finding an example.
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i'll add that one can always numerically find the solutions of polynomials, but algorithms aren't closed form solutions that can be evaluated for any coefficients given, instead you have to iterate the algorithm to get an approximate solution
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>>16866878
>there is no general equation that, given the coefficients of a quadratic, gives you the zeros of the quadratic
t. everyone before the 1500s

how do you actually know for certain
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>>16866883
Read the thread.
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They are perfectly solvable in terms of series solutions. I don't know why retarded algebrists think that solutions involving roots are any better than solutions involving infinite series when in both cases you need computer to approximate them.
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>>16867008
t.analyst
roots reflect symmetry groups, which are at the heart of literally everything in algebra, while infinite series are a meme with no place in the field
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>>16866871
Is it EnergeticTopomorphical?
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>>16867008
>>16867009
>in both cases you need computer to approximate them.
What are the asymptotic complexities of time and space in terms of numerical precision? I'll be coding my solution in C, btw.
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Not sure if this is closed form https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/540964/how-to-solve-fifth-degree-equations-by-elliptic-functions
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>>16867116
Ok, it actually isn't. AI said it was, I had to read into that post more carefully.
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>>16866871
It's a defect of math axioms. They don't like to admit this though.
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>>16867128
Defect of math axiom how?
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>>16866873
>elaborate
Look it up. AIs were invented to spoonfeed toddlers like yourself.
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>>16866871
The dimensionality of the solution space increases exponentially in the number of roots (2^N, N = # of roots = degree of polynomial). Three starts the strain the ability of algebra to express itself, five is pure overload. Hyper-logarithm and hypo-exponentials did not offer a way out.
So, here we are.
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>>16866871
take it with the dueling kid
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>>16866871
You're using Euclidean space for a solution space.
>>16867222
Just say you don't understand enough to elaborate or don't bother posting, newfag.
>>16867222
>Dimensionality of the solution space
This guy gets it.
The abstraction only gains meaning in the context of the space it is injected into.

The video game industry broke peoples minds by pretending 3d euclidean space was the same as 4d projected space and it isn't and never will be... going beyond 4 melts most people's brains because their comprehension of 3d is a commercial definition, not an actual definition at all.
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>>16867009
>while infinite series are a meme with no place in the field
How do you think e is computed
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>>16868518
Why do I need to do any of that? A polynomial of N degree is arbitrary. I could add color as a dimension to my sphere and now I have 5.
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>>16868536
>A polynomial of N degree is arbitrary
your mom is arbitrary, what's that got to do with projective space?
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>>16868612
>Originally, in Euclid's Elements, it was the three-dimensional space of Euclidean geometry, but in modern mathematics there are Euclidean spaces of any positive integer dimension n, which are called Euclidean n-spaces
You brought up like some constraint you retard
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>>16868534
Instantaneous interest on my infinite wealth account?
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>>16868518
I got a highly non-Euclidean context embedding project to mine the 4chins for the glowies in Minecraft.
You interested?
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>>16866883
>there is no triangle anyone has drawn with internal angles totaling more or less than 180 degrees
t. everyone before the 300s BC

how do you actually know for certain? oh wait you can actually decisively prove certain things can't be true if they're incompatible with the logical rules of mathematics.
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>>16868536
Oh, I'm sorry. The answer is, "What is a non-sequitur, Ken?".
We also would have accepted, "PeNgUiN oF D00M!".
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>>16868637
Because that’s the definition of a triangle. The definition of Quintic is purely its a polynomial of degree 5. That’s states nothing about its solvability.

t. Everyone who isn’t an undergraduate moron like you
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>>16868638
>non sequitur
That’s ironic, since I btfo you here >>16868630
Not sure why you brought your little sphere to the party since it has nothing to do with OPs question
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>>16868641
>Because that’s the definition of a triangle.
You poor abused child. You were tutored by mental rapists.
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>>16868518
>going beyond 4 melts most people's brains because their comprehension of 3d is a commercial definition, not an actual definition at all.
do some golfing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y53UNskR-zU
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>>16867164
>Muh heckin axioms are free from fault!!
Axioms of choice and infinity are both faulty. Going through the axioms of ZFC, they seem to all be bullshit.
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>>16868953
>Axioms of choice and infinity are both faulty
>faulty
This is pretty much a meaningless statement. Any internally coherent set of axioms has implications that reflect something of the logical structure of reality.
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>>16868954
>internally coherent set of axioms
They're not tho. Even mathematicians acknowledge this by publishing proofs both with and without AC
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>>16868961
>They're not
Prove it.
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>>16868964
Why do mathematicians publish proofs both with and without AC if it's all internally consistent? They love rigor. Surely one proof with AC should suffice. :^)
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>>16868961
>publishing proofs both with and without AC
They do that because it's interesting and stylish, you dumb fuck.
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>>16868967
I wrote a legitimate response and then decided you're a mouth-breathing, mentally ill mongoloid and don't deserve one. :^)

Closing this retarded thread now. Notice how your mental illness forces you to reply again.
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>>16868970
The inbred retard is effectively just asking "why do mathematicians use different systems of axioms" a minute after I answered this question.
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>>16868953
>Going through the axioms of ZFC, they seem to all be bullshit.
Aargh, le bullshit Successor(n) function!!!
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>>16868972
Mimicry is a high form of flattery. Thank you.
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>>16868967
>Surely one proof with AC should suffice. :^)
as for without, they are constructivist or intuitionists, that's all, AC ain't either of those things
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>>16869057
>There are two categories of mathematicians
>Those who include AC and those who don't in proofs
>AC has nothing to do with either of these categories
Retard lol
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>>16869059
Dude, you're stupid as fuck. Just leave this site and learn how to read.
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>>16869063
I accept your concession.



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