If so, why is that?
>>16867396There is no accepted definition of what intelligence means. IQ measures how good you are at taking tests and following orders that's it. It has nothing to do with creativity and insight which the average hoodrat has over the IQfags in spades. I mean just listen to each one talk and it is clear where the wit and critical thinking is. Have you ever heard an IQfag say something original?
>>16867401Shitty bait. Now kys, nigger.
>>16867396Blacks are closer to hunter gatherers. They were relatively recent in the move from hunter-gathering to agriculture. Hence they are, on average, not as suited to classrooms and offices. Asians were the first to move from hunter-gathering to agriculture and that is why they kick ass when it comes to studies, being able to study or work in the same desk for 16 hours a day 7 days a week.
>>16867401>there is no universally accepted definition for "violent" >therefore black people aren't more violent than anyone elsekek
>>16867396Short answer: no one really knows for sure because the data is overdetermined. There is some evidence to suggest the average is somewhat lower. It’s not conclusive though. Additional points: Intelligence—even general intelligence—is an amorphous concept that is not well defined. There is evidence to suggest males and females are each more intelligent than the other in certain narrow domains. It depends on what you measure and if you measure precisely enough to notice a significant difference you’re getting away from the concept of general intelligence as a matter of fitness anyway. I don’t think it makes sense to view an IQ separation between white and black people because if fitness in the abstract is about IQ in any way, the separation is between those with high and those with low IQ. A slight deviation of a mean in an arbitrary category distracts us. I’ve met really stupid white people and really smart black people. The better distinction is between smart and dumb people, period.
>>16867403Clear display of a lack of any originality. You've been using the n-word for centuries. All the other racist epithets have been lost to time because cretins like you are too lazy and stupid to ever use them. You people are so intellectually bankrupt you import words from the blacks you hate so much like "based">>16867476>there is no universally accepted definition for "violent"Good job, you're learning! Wars which kill multiple magnitudes more innocent people than anything street criminals could ever dream of is never presented as "violence". Violence in the parlance of the lower middle class IQfag consists entirely of what he sees on the subway. He doesn't care about anything beyond his myopic and limited world. He is the modern day village yokel >therefore black people aren't more violent than anyone elseNope zero evidence of that either. Show me black people calling for the mass deaths of children and dancing over their corpses like whites and Jews have been doing every day for the past two years.
>>16867396On average yeah but as you can see from your graph a good chunk of them are more intelligent than the average white guy so you shouldn't cast such sweeping judgments.
>>16867565Oh also as to why they're less intelligent on average I think it's to do with evolving in a hot climate. Whites had to plan ahead for the winter.
>>16867481>I've met smart black peoplepost IQ
>>16867657they probably sold it using my power to be as sentient as the average white 85 fsiq male lmaoif you're going to do that at least be clever imagine wasting 15 whole ass charges to be sentient lol
>>16867778blacks in corporate america have to sell it to their companys just to act normal lmaooooooo
>>16867657I’m around the 85th percentile in the U.S. Intelligence can recognize intelligence. So if you haven’t met smart black people maybe they’re not the problem.
>>16867396cuz blacks are subhuman nignogs apes
>>16867401>IQ measures how good you are at taking tests and following orders that's itRetard (or bait) spotted.KYS
>>16867396NO. there exist at least one black person A and white person B such that B is dumber than A.So black people are not less intelligent then white people
>>16867396I don't understand why you ask why. Populations separated for thousands of years that have clearly diverged physically have also diverged mentally, how is this such a surprising thing.
>>16867568Agreed. Ditto for Asians. Something tells me alot of the dumb one starved bc they couldn't plan ahead. Whereas in africa or the americas there was plentiful fish and game so even the retards ate and reproduced. Multiply this over thousands of years and you get differences in intelligence.
>>16868115Hahahahaha that's the honest answer I give people. Why would a species that stretches across a big planet be equally the same? Of coarse they are different. Just like bears can be very different and dogs. Humans as well. Obviously it's fucking genetic.
>>16867934>there exist at least one black person A and white person B such that B is dumber than A.>So black people are not less intelligent then white peopleThe level of your "reasoning" indicates strongly that you're brown.
>>16868174>the exception that proves the rule.Normies and midwits always say this but they don't understand what it means. Explaining this expression is a better test of intelligence than most of the crap they put in IQ tests.
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligent?>If so, why is that?Getting an excellent education in many countries on Earth involves spending money. If a Black people family, for example, has four children, not every such family has the money to pay for the education of all four children therefore they will be fools.There is a lot of multilingual environment in Africa. It is not uncommon for African black people to speak two or four languages, and this knowledge develop the brains and promotes evolutionary development. This does not happen in the United States of America yet, although it is very beneficial for the ethnic Black People Mafia to use African languages that the US police do not know.In Africa, as in Europe, it is not only skin color that unites, but also language and culture. Within the Black Race, different tribes and different nations have different evolutionary adaptations and follow different paths of evolvement. In Africa, there is no concept of a black human, it is more important to belong to a country, nation, ethnic group, culture, religion, social group, social estate. It's the same in Europe.Some people may say that the head of a Black man is smaller than, for example, the head of a Mongol, but not only the size is important, but it is also important how the brain areas are developed. Among birds, crows are more than fifty times smarter than chickens, although the differences in brain volume are small. It's the same with nightingales and sparrows.
>>16868185>Getting an excellent education in many countries on Earth involves spending money.The average white is getting an "education" that's outright intellectually crippling and still manages to end up a good stdev above blacks living in first world countries. No educational intervention has ever been shown to improve intelligence.
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligent?>If so, why is that?Then who? Less intelligent than Vulcans? Perhaps. But there is a huge genetic diversity among people of the Black Race. Some tribes or nations of the Black Race can make efforts and be smart and well educated. But this is not always rewarded, look at the removal of programmers in the United States of America due to the arrival of artificial intelligences and the seizure of jobs by them.
>>16867396From the point of view of nature and evolution, a black academic who has not given birth to children is less valuable than a black foreman of a Hollywood lighting crew who has given birth to three children. But in terms of contribution to the development of civilization, the opposite is true.
>>16867396No long term planning makes you shake your booty all day because of the nice weathers n shit.
>>16867396the different human races became like that because they mixed with different pre-human speciesblacks came from a mix with the homo erectus, thus why they are dumber
>>16868176>ummm this thing actually means something else, I am very smartI know what you're on about and you're wrong, you retard. All you have to do is look up this expression in other languages.
>>16868267>unable to explain what the phrase meansSee? Works like a charm and reliably filters submidwits. Your next post won't contain an explanation, either.
Evolution. The various races are products of very different environments and found very different strategies to adapt and develop
>>16867403Ironically proved his point
Retard threads like this are why humanities peaked, instead of who's smart and who's dumb, humans still prefer to break it down into races for some reason. Achieving global unity is impossible and thus our technological advancements are permanently stunted. Do you even actually care OP, or was this just a way to get people to say nigger a thousand times over the course of a few days, take this shit to /r9k/ or something
>>16868386>Achieving global unityI like how the latest batch of shills is so dumb it straight up advertises being globalist cancer.
>>16867401nigga are you for real, what creative stuff did niggers do, were Leonardo, Picasso, Van Gough and any other major artists ever black? what art did black monkeys in subsaharian Africa had other than cave paintings?
>>16868398You can find plenty of million plus follower black artists on IG, or does a modern times answer not count? I'm guessing it doesn't cause you only gave names eurocentric education force feeds you
>>16868404>You can find plenty of million plus follower black artists on bot-infested, jew-owned social mediaAnd?
>>16868404name me 3 black artists(not counting nigger music obviously)
>>16868409bill cosbymorgan freemandave chappelle
>>16868418Yeah, I'm sure Bill Cosby will be remembered centuries from now for his contributions to art/science/whatever.
>>16868418so you can name just some actors than the jews wanted for making cinema more inclusive? Name 3 artistic works made by black people is a better request so maybe you won't use your jewish tricks
>>16868428The only good stuff niggers made was blues and jazz but white trash like you probably calls that "nigger music".
>>16868421>goal post movinglmao, what about MLK then or Malcolm X?
>>16868438I was talking about rap, have to admit that blacks are really good at singing like ray charles or Aretha Franklin. But is more of a inborn talent than a creative mind, as I intend it in the classical sense
>>16868428>you're only a de facto artist if you're literally one of the best to ever do itlol. lmao.>>16868428bill cosby didn't just act, ya doofus. he wrote a literal comic. dave chappelle is also not an actor. he's a comedian. i gave a range of different type of artists.
>>16868447>lol. lmao.you can't name 3 artistic works made my niggers, lol
>>16868442I didn't set any goal posts. I was just passing by and decided to laugh at your mental retardation.>>16868445Good jazz is more creative than most classical.
>>16868452the cosby show, the boondocks, chappelle's sticks & stones
>>16868457since when is comedy skit considered art
>>16867401Post hand
>>16867565> a good chunk of them are more intelligent than the average white guyHas to go out like 3 standard deviations to find blacks more intelligent than average fights. Lmao>you shouldn't cast such sweeping judgmentsActually, sweeping judgements are exactly what this data allow us to make
>>16867481Written like a true midwit. IQ is the capacity for pattern recognition, thinking abstractly and creating complex models of the world with predictive value.
>>16868474lol. lmao. nigga doesn't know about greek plays.
>whaer are de lions>i do not know me caernt hear dem>we must stay from them>yes>i thirst brudda>yes>*eaten by crocodile*>MUBAMWE HAS BEEN EATEN I CANNOT BELIEF IT, A BAD YEAR FOR OKELE TRIBE, MANY EATEN, THE SADNESS>*produces 15 offspring*Meanwhile, an ancient tribe of Europeans ventures into Africa...>sounds like fuckin lions over there mate>no worries i'll fuckin kick the cunts head in>yeah>*gets eaten by lion*>fuckin hell seans just had his bloody arm off>right ye maybe these trees will do we can hide and ponder the universe or something>good shout mate bang on>*devolves into chimpanzee*
>>16868848why did my mind read this with an English accent
>>16868895Becoz you are developine yor powah
>>16868895Cause he used the word mate, dumbass
i mean africans have a 'ghost' hominim ancestor that scientists haven't disclosed yet. too embarrassing maybe kek
nigga go ooga booga
>>16867476>the smartest people in the world didn't spend millennia thinking of new ways to kill each other more effectively
>>16867396The graph of blacks honestly may as well be the graph of poor whites or at least the ones who don't have easy access to someone that could teach/ reinforce what was taught and because IQ tests are at best pattern recognition (towards the end of you've taken one) and trivia for the upper middle class for the most part. It isn't a test of something we should consider intelligence. Mostly because once you know the answer for them it's just trivia. Ex: Figure out the Next 3 Letters ONDJF
>>16867396Because their genetic code produces less of some specific string of proteins. That's just how genetics works. There are also non-genetic factors.Also black people are GENERALLY less intelligent, it's a key distinction, I wouldn't want to give the guy who solves Navier Stocks a hard time just cause he has the same skin color as murderers, rapists, and generally thug criminals.Btw yes we've identified numerous genetic traits related to high intelligence, low intelligence, violence, passivity, etc.James Watson was largely correct, and that's why we have laws that prevent genetic level discrimination, because it's true inequalities exist at the genetic level.I don't even know why this is such a big debate, we don't even live in a meritocracy. Who cares if a black person isn't very smart, as a genius I don't care because most people are retarded compared to me anyways. The difference between an IQ of 70 and 120, relative to me, is minuscule. That's why I make my low IQ friends (sub 160) based on personality.But back to the non-genetic factors. Before I decided to become a genius I wanted to be a porn mogul. I failed, so this is my back up.
kill yourself white boy i put my bbc in you
>>16867476celtic genocidedacian genocideenslavement and rape of gaulsgenocide of carthagecrusades (massacre of orthodox christian and muslim villagers)protestant reformation/thirty years wargenocide of native americansbritish opium warrubber terrorworld war 1world war 2holocaustholodomorbosnian war/srebrenica massacrewe wuz good white boiz n sheeit (hundreds of millions killed around the world and in europe)
>>16867484>Good job, you're learning! Wars which kill multiple magnitudes more innocent people than anything street criminals could ever dream of is never presented as "violence". Violence in the parlance of the lower middle class IQfag consists entirely of what he sees on the subway. He doesn't care about anything beyond his myopic and limited world. He is the modern day village yokelyeah everybody gets worried about the black guy walking down the street at them, but statistically you should be more worried about the white guy since he might declare war on you
>>16868198>huge genetic diversity among people of the Black Race. Some tribes or nations of the Black Race can make efforts and be smart and well educated.Which tribes? Which known scientists or engineers from Africa do you resemble?
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligent?yes>If so, why is that?genetics and culture, they fail both at nature and nurture part of raising intelligence>>16867401>There is no accepted definition of what intelligence meanslies>>16868386>Retard threads like this are why humanities peakedshills like you are the reason civilized world is being filled up with subhuman scum that is holding whole civilisation back>>16867481>no one really knows for sure because the data is overdeterminedresearch that would reach a decisive conclusion will never be aproved or funded for political reasons
>>16868848ancestors europeans wiped out some of the most dangerous megafauna animals on earth, thats why only strongest and most intelligent survived, hence higher average IQ and greater drive to build, explore, or wage war for resources, hence why almost all niggers speak some european language in order to be understood instead of clicking noises
>>16871340>self proclaimed smartest person>just talks drunk pub nonsense all the time
>>16868475this
>>16867481>16867481the unbiased midwit strikes again!>>16871316this
>>16867484>Nope zero evidence of that either. Show me black people calling for the mass deaths of children and dancing over their corpses like whites and Jews have been doing every day for the past two years.rwanda? sudan? nigeria?
>>16867484>>16867484Virgin cleansing myth. South Africans infected with HIV believe raping virgin infants will cure them.
>>16867396It's not the blacks, it's the ghettos. Ghetto retards have subhuman IQ and monkey behaviour regardless of their race.Ghetto monkeys do not care about education and intelligence or weird symbols in the IQ test. Therefore they score lower. At least that is my thesis.
>>16872491you know whats funny they think with their 50 FSIQs they can come up with ideas and the entire system is against teaching them so they dont come up with good ideas
>>16867396>black curve is biggerlmao witebois can't compete lfmao
>>16872491Don't forget that the higher IQ blacks tried to separate from the niggers and join polite society in the early days of civil rights.Of course, their reasonable requests were denied in favor of importing feral nogs to the inner cities.
>>16867396It's a winter planning adaptation. People in hot climates did not need to plan for a deadly winter.
>>16872534Agreed. I think the more dumb whites and Asians probably miscalculated and starved. Along with their dumb wife and kids. So over a long time their average iq went up. But people living in warm climates never had to evolve to be smarter. Nothing wrong with any of that. Problem is when you try to mix everyone together. Africans and europeans and arabs and native americans should never coexist in 1 society. It's impossible.
I actually wish to hear any blacks on this issue, please, visit this board.
>>16867396yesno evolutionary pressure to get smart enough to plan ahead (winter)
>>16867401>There is no accepted definition of what intelligence means.I assure you, there is.
>>16867484the key here is the proportionality, most people dont live in war affected countries but most countries have black people
>>16868404all AI generated bullshit and bot accounts boosting
>>16868386global unity is impossible because most humans are still irrational, they may look rational but they're acting purely on instincts, unable to control impulses
>>16868404anon, not to defend racists but you can just post your own ass and get a million of followers on IG, your argument is built on an unstable ground.
>>16872811Even if that’s true anon doesn’t realize music creation isn’t a g loaded creativity measure lmao blacks don’t make rl grime
>>16867396Does it matter if anyone was more or less smarter? There has been no massive scale testing with large as fuck samples and taken over the span of years to gather the data required to make any statement. Comparing some tribals in PNG who never went to school to rich Japanese kids attending an extremely rich private school wouldn't make much sense to do, nor would you get much out of it.
>>16872656>>16872534Cold Winter Theory is bunk. People can't even define what they think is "cold" or "warm" let along actually knowing the climate history of entire regions over millenia or their peculiarities. Hot places don't have "easy food" because fruits and other sources from flora have hackshit nutritional yields unless bred for it.
>>16872662>>16872534I'm not an anthropologist, but I would disagree with you and agree with him: >>16873031From all my knowledge live in Africa is tough shit. It either too dry with high risk of crop failure and famine. Or it's a some sort of jungle with deadly animals, parasites and disease, both lack food. It's not an easy to live, don't think that they eat bananas that fall down on them all the day. Even ancient Egyptian civilization was depended on Nile spill outs, which wasn't consistent, so they kinda had that "winter" when you had to plan in advance.The question that disturbs me (among other questions to African people) is why don't they invent?? If you ask this to ChatGPT it will answer with some cope like "it's already efficient" or "they value tradition" etc. All of that cope could be applied to any European nation at any point of history, honestly, and means nothing.Look on the picture, it's a modern Google Maps, you can see there round clay huts and also some square "buildings" which are actually just sheds made of corrugated sheet. Why the hell they don't build anything interesting or big??? Let's compare to Greeks: those had quite primitive agriculture + fishing, however out of pure boredom they build so many art and architecture. Even if you have no resource you still can do theater (which they have but it's not developing), philosophy, create new tales etc. They don't do that. And it's not some cherry picked village, the whole Chad is like that and most of the Africa I guess.>>16872491>it's not nature, it's societyFirst of all ghettos is a small part of black life, most of blacks live in Africa, and has nothing to do with ghettos, and American 'blacks' are half-white anyway, so there's no point to focus solely on them.Second, bro. You are self-censoring yourself, aren't you? You just want to sound nice and deep inside you think the same as all in this thread, you just afraid of your own thoughts.
>>16873241>You just want to sound nice and deep inside you think the same as all in this threadWell, I too like to spam nigger. However, I feel like blacks being subhuman insects due to their genes is a bit weird. It doesn't make sense to me, evolutionary. But I get you point, ultimately everywhere didn't have a civilization. Whites have built it, blacks did not. Are these fuckers just unlucky? They have bad brain genes? I don't know.
>>16873241>From all my knowledge live in Africa is tough shit. It either too dry with high risk of crop failure and famine.They say this but then when the whites live there they never have trouble farming shit. It's only when whites leave that all the farms fail.
>>16873255>Are these fuckers just unlucky?We should ask them how they feel about it, aren't we? Maybe they don't care? For example, whites has lower IQ then Asians, but do we care - not at all. Maybe black person would say that they are good at music and personal relationships, and don't give a fuck about STEM and will be proud like that. Of course they can say something like "Africa is poor because of you bitches", as leftists like to do, and it will lead as nowhere but to hate. Spamming "nigger" won't help their average IQ, I think the best you can do is not to judge every person by the group they belong to, at least on personal level. Every smart boy in ghetto should have an opportunity.
>>16873031Cold is you freeze to death if you don't put things together in advance. It filtered people who did not have an aptitude for planning and resource management.
>>16873281Yet early civilizations emerge in quite good if not perfect climate. Because, bro, people fight for resources, it's not like you go into cold to find some adventure. You are pushed there by your more successful neighbors. >>16873262> Africa>whites live there they never have trouble farming shitWhere, in South Africa which weather is the same as in Europe? If those Chad lands was farmable, Bill Gates would already purchase them.
>>16873352Back then there was a lot more open space. You go to the north because as a young adult you go where you do. Then winter comes and if you aren't already prepared you literally freeze to death.With modern technology a lot of those pressures are letting up but that's just how it was.
All available data and every persons personal life experience both show that different races have different average IQs, but a lot of people would really prefer if it wasn't true, so there are tons of excuses people have made up to handwave away the reality of the situation. People really don't want it to be true because the fact is often abused by bad actors and it's the sort of thing that just by knowing it causes people to act like assholes
>>16873508>that different races have different average IQsIQ scores fall apart as metric when comparing massive populations. I was and still is mainly used in the education system where it actually is relevant there.
>>16873281>It filtered people who did not have an aptitude for planning and resource management.Mediterranean.
>>16873255>Whites have built it, blacks did not.Africans did have their own civilisation and states. Pretty much everywhere but the most isolated areas had staye formations and the development of hierarchies.
>>16867396>If so, why is that?There are more factor to that but 2 possible that come to mind:>Fetal Drugs Syndromes, >Infancy Malnutrition/Carelessness>Infancy PTSDThe sociological reason for this occuring is not up to me to judge.
>>16875195Thr geaph also isn't dated so it's hard to really say much about what it'a trying to say.
Shills reading into this thread very hard and even applying certain ideas, I confirm.
>>16873647>IQ scores fall apart as metric when comparing massive populations.Why?
>>16867396it's hard to measure intelligence but i am willing to bet if you measured "civilized" by employment, lack of criminal behaviour, inventions and so on, the graph would match OP exactly so yeah
>>16867401FPBPITT: Larping brainlets coping and sneeding
>>16875982>concurs with lack of objective meaning of intelligence>asserts people are brainletswhat, pray tell, is a brainlet?
>>16875984>what, pray tell, is a brainlet?what you see every day in the mirror
>>16871027If you have to bring up large wars to explain common black crime rates, I feel like you've already lost the argument.
>>16867401Having European ancestry makes you smarterhttps://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/34
>>16867396Short answer: yesLong answer: yes
>>16867476Hitler and trump both said violence is good
>>16868421>Yeah, I'm sure Bill Cosby will be remembered centuries from now for his contributions tomixing sleeping potions
>>16867396Go in the hood and ask them to do math lol.
>>16876172its nice to see finally some better research on thislooks like how we should view it maybe is that the people who left africa faced selection pressures that made them smarter. perhaps to do with the cold. hence maybe lighter skins more intelligent people genetically
>>16867396Are Goyim really less inteeligent? If so, why is that?
>>16877014Those "selection pressures" existed everywhere.
>>16876172So how does this apply to a Babardian, a Turk or a Taiwanese man?
>>16871027Why aren't blacks intelligent enough to commit genocide against another race?
>>16877746Turks are smarter, we buttfucked europe through the centuries, then we became muslim...
surprised this thread is up
>>16878224Newfag jannys
>>16878224Because the retard in thay post doesn't understand the shit he says like a total midwit. Also what >>16878228 said.
what the fuck is this >t high fluid knower that is confused
>>16878304kek what a retard
>>16867396I dunno, they seem to be higher than whites in that graph, nigga.>smokes blunt, shuffles feet and grabs junk.
>>16877745then why are non-africans smarter than africans ?
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligentNo. The data you're sharing has been heavily manipulated. To get the Bell Curve for the book Hernstein and Murray misused army recruitment tests as IQ tests, which they weren't, removed wealthy black schools in Africa from their data and used a test given to literal copper miners in Africa to test the validity of testing as an IQ test, which it wasn't. Fun fact, another test was given to the same copper miners 3 months later and everyone's scores went up because they understood testing better, which is what the test was for. Hernstein and Murray conveniently left that out of their book and used only the first test.It is manipulative garbage and you, like so many other racists, fell for it because it suits your superiority complex world narrative.
>>16878396-Army recruitment tests heavily track with IQ-Including top tier schools would be an unfair advantage/comparisonYour post is cope and the data is perfectly fine. You just don't want to accept it
>>16873508>sort of thing that just by knowing it causes people to act like assholesSo you think people acting like assholes is a key issue here. Why not to deal with that and fuck off from science? Hate is a part of human nature.
>>16873508>the fact is often abused by bad actorsHow is it abused by "bad actors"?>inb4 any rational conclusion and actionable policy derived from the reality of IQ differences is... le BAD
>>16868170He was refuting the absolutist position, his mistake was not thinking further in terms of population mean an outliers
>>16878436>he was refuting [irrelevant talmudic strawman]End your own life tonight.
>>16878396Top tier schools aren't the average
>>16878396That Shaun's video truly did a number on the internet Bell Curve discourse
>>16878224I got racism warning on /tv/ the other day after I told some cuck that some actress hasn't dated niggers. What is going on with this site. But at least it's not three day ban - I'm tired of restarting my router
>>16867401I am a teacher and I deal with students who break the fuck out of IQ tests, many of them black. Get them in the right mood and they'll destroy math ptoblems. Get them in the wrong mood and they'll score 50 on an IQ test.There are problems in black communities that create anti intellectual tendencies similar to right wing movements. Most of these would not occur if they were not economically segregated. An IQ test is only valid if the testee is actually tying to score well. Most of my students do not give a fuck. The ones who do give a fuck, including the black ones, have one thing in common: parents who give a fuck.The libs don't want to talk about problems within black communities. The right don't want to talk about the forces that sustain those problems. Black students are fucked by both.And this is before you even get into whether the test itself is valid for a particular population. The population upon which a test was validated and normalized is at an inherent advantage.
>>16878541>The population upon which a test was validated and normalized is at an inherent advantage.askenazi jews?
>>16878536You don't understand. If you say it's bad to date black men because they're black, that's an opinion and not racist. But if you say it's ok to date niggers, that's racist. The racism is entirely encoded in a word, not in how you treat others. Make sense?
>>16867396It's important to recognize that there are differences in ability. We are not all created equal.At the same time, measures of intelligence are a quantification of abilities that are qualitatively different. Black people have historically been exploited and pushed into particular types of labor. The measures of intelligence that we have created are not separated from these economic realities, and they tend to assign higher scores to what we'd call "white" labor, essentially rigging the system to confirm something that was already plain: that black people are oppressed.So the real problem with measuring intelligence is that it is not explanatory, it does not reveal to us some hidden basis to explain why people have the lot in life that they have. Instead, it ends up being descriptive, a measure of how much oppression and discrimination that we have created in our own society. Too many people, like you OP, fetishize these measures though and treat them as if they have explanatory power, and in doing so you move further from the truth, ironically towards stupidity yourself.
>>16867401>There is no accepted definition of what intelligence meansCope.
>>16878450In 4chan it isn't irrelevant the view that all whites are better than all blacks with no exceptions. What's talmudic about the existence of exceptions? It seems that the talmud is about jewish supremacy, and that too is an absolutist, self defeating view
>>16878608221*0.60 - 588*0.20 - 751*0.13 = -83 per capita total?this money allegedly comes from thin air? the calculations don't add up.
>>16878660asians aren't included there and some of these data go back to 2010 when whites were more than 60% of population
>>16878431>Those people are dumb, we should educate them bettervs> Those people are dumb, let's put them into the oven
>>16879042>>schizophrenic fantasy about what my ideology can do>vs.>>schizophrenic fantasy about what my ideological enemies will doSorry, but it's impossible to have a functioning society with a distinct subpopulation that is two standard deviations below the norm in terms of intelligence. Nor can you ""'educate""" away that subpopulation's genetic limitations. It will always form a deeply resentful underclass of undesirables. Leftists are psychopathic mass murderers who think just because someone is irredeemably stupid you need to burn them to death. You need to be segregated along with them. This is what the science shows. There's no way around it.
>>16879042>> Those people are dumb, let's put them into the ovenHow many genocides throughout history were carried out because some targeted group was deemed to be less intelligent?
>How many genocides throughout history were carried out because some targeted group was deemed to be less intelligent?Right away I could give 3 examples:1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide2. Japanese shit in Korea during WW23. Colonial wars in AfricaHow many genocides do you know, cutie?I gave that exaggerated to point that you should watch for the Call To when dealing with metrics that divide people such as IQ. However your brains failed to generalize and stuck on rebutting those examples literally. We could have an interesting discussion, but your IQs are closer to those of Sub-Saharan Africa... What a loss for /sci/!
>>16879618The wiki makes no mention of IQ or intelligence. Japanese shit in Korea, while definitely war crimes, was hardly a genocide. Colonial wars in Africa isn't genocide either. The most famous genocide happened to jews who are the highest IQ group. Meanwhile low IQ of blacks has been known since WWI and nobody in America tried to genocide them for it. There is no historical precedent for your concerns so I suggest you chill
>>16879686>Japanese shit in Korea, while definitely war crimes, was hardly a genocideJapanese actions in China were genocidal. In Korea they tried to erase and crackdown on Korean culture and the language.>Colonial wars in Africa isn't genocide either.Several major ethnic cleansing and genocides did occur in Africa.>Meanwhile low IQ of blacks has been known since WWI and nobody in America tried to genocide them for it.Lynching, Jim Crow, segregation death threats, poltical oppression, voting day violence, financial and government institutions outright targetting and gucjing over black and/or poor populations.
>>16879048Stop trying to pussyfoot around your obssession with trying to ruin people's lives. You're a powerless psychopath.
>>16879686>jews who are the highest IQ group>The most famous genocide happened to jewsThis is because you're educated in (((this))) way. Many things can be considered genocidal, anything based on race/ethnicity, even deportations. In Africa depends on colony, Congo was epic butchery. I'll never chill, because I'm so hot
>>16879699>Lynching, Jim Crow, segregation death threats, poltical oppression, voting day violence, financial and government institutions outright targetting and gucjing over black and/or poor populations.missing from your list: attempted genocide
Pretty sure if you look at any Eurasian population pre-age of large settlements and diverse economies, you're not going to find a single one with a comparable IQ likelihood to select modern Eurasian populations who've run select culture programs for hundreds to thousands of years. Hunter Gatherers in Europe had comparable IQ PGS's to certain modern African pops. Civilization effectively selects for IQ, even if smart people are less likely to have kids across the board. I'd bet archaic admixture has close to nothing to do with it. Far as I know, it maxes out at about 7% for very specific West African groups. It's all a matter of time + systems robustness + likeminded people coming together to make children. That recipe has existed for a much longer time in Eurasia vs. Subsaharan Africa.
And probably there is a connection between IQ farming and the formation of elite culture groups. Sometimes indirectly: Elite group can fund an institute for Plato to run, Plato has all this money and protection to take risks on educating volatile gifted kids that would be at high risk of getting ostracized without elite funding, you get a valuable output. A tome for literate people to look at or a statue, the rich people say, hey, you know what, come live with us or, you know what, I'll extend your funding, live in a nice place and make your statuary (a form of nesting for potential mates, volatile statuary man can only tolerate smart women, they have sex 3-4x, have a kid, repeat on a large enough scale, you have a higher avg IQ at least among elite groups, elite groups are likelier to have kids in all pre-industrial situations, BAM)
But there are too many invisible stretches. Maybe elite funding wasn't part of the equation until about the Iron Age. You also have warrior-psychopathy tactics--clear headed psychopath glory chasers on a big enough scale will make psychopath offspring minorities that probably will only have access to small pools of mates, they'll go after the healthiest/sharpest, repeat for several hundred years, BAM. 100 IQ average. Someone talk to me.
>>16879699>Several major ethnic cleansing and genocides did occur in Africa.How many because Africans had low IQ?>Lynching, Jim Crow, segregation death threats, poltical oppression, voting day violence, financial and government institutions outright targetting and gucjing over black and/or poor populations.None of this is genocide and none of this happened due to low black IQ. What are we even talking about.
>>16867401The energy to the brain is the same for people. How it is divided over time is no measurement of intelligence.
>>16880105>How many because Africans had low IQ?None.
>>16880105Don't pretend to be an idiot, the idea that blacks are less developed was used to justify slavery and colonization all the time. IQ term wasn't developed back then.
>>16880105you dumb fuck. fitness centers in the '30s promoted intelligent people to reproduce regardless of race.
>>16867401>>16867457>>16867481>>16867484
>>16867484>Show me black people calling for the mass deaths of children and dancing over their corpses like whites and Jews have been doing every day for the past two years.Take a trip to tribal Africa.
>>16881079No that's something people repeat but there is no evidence for it.
>>16867481>The better distinction is between smart and dumb people, period.I want to add my own personal insight to this.Most of what we recognize as 'stupidity' in people today is not innate or genetic, but rather learned. Think of all the brainwashed redditors spouting things that are obviously false. They were taught to be that stupid. Much of the stupidity today is the result of sabotage in public schools or messaging in media. We want to focus on something easily measurable, like IQ, but fail to grasp that a high IQ child in an environment that feeds it false information is going to grow up retarded. This relates back to the meme of the low IQ and the high IQ agreeing, while the midwit spouts the popular talking point.Having a lower IQ can actually make a person harder to brainwash. Perhaps that's related to the reason why a high IQ is detrimental to reproduction in today's society.
>>16881142Go to any LLM, lazy fat ass, and ask for evidence, then do your own research.
>>16881147i meanthis is just a redefinition of stupidity as views that are not libertarian rightjust happens that it is well documented this particular group of people have lower than average iqwho knows why
>>16878541>create anti intellectual tendencies similar to right wing movements. Most of these would not occur if they were not economically segregated.First true right wing movements are not anti-intellectual. You're working from a false definition of right wing and are probably one of those idiots who think republicans are right wing. Second, niggers would have anti-intellectual tendencies anyways. You really need to consider how African kingdoms have actually operated. Something like Timbuktu was an anomaly and it was eventually sacked because most Africans even then tended to hold anti-intellectual attitudes even prior to being shipped to the Americas. Moreover, you exclude the reality of the free blacks prior to emancipation who didn't hold any of those attitudes and often in fact did not even want to associate with the slave niggers. On top of that, slave niggers sometimes moved north after emancipation and hence were not subject to segregation and still picked up those attitudes. It's also quite similar with nigger migrants to Europe. It's not a segregation thing. It's just a nigger thing.
>>16881502>Second, niggers would have anti-intellectual tendencies anywaysEducation is hugely pushed in Africa. You reallt don't know how important education is over there and gow much parents will do to get it for their kids.>Something like Timbuktu was an anomaly and it was eventually sacked because most Africans even then tended to hold anti-intellectual attitudeIt declined due to economic collapse retard.>Moreover, you exclude the reality of the free blacks prior to emancipation who didn't hold any of those attitudes and often in fact did not even want to associate with the slave niggersMost still associated with the slaves since many Freeman STILL had their family under slavery or lived near them.
>>16881502>It's also quite similar with nigger migrants to Europe. It's not a segregation thing. It's just a nigger thing.Educational attainment is growing among immigrants though. It's not something that is hidden.
>>16881328How about you did the same and after you find out there is indeed no evidence for it you stop repeating false things in the future, eh?
>>16881549>Education is hugely pushed in Africa. You reallt don't know how important education is over there and gow much parents will do to get it for their kids.If it was Europe, the economy would just produce more teachers. Like in the middle 19, beginning of 20 cent. teacher was a prestigious profession. I can't get why it doesn't work like that in Africa. Go ahead, study and become a teacher, then make money since education is in such a high demand. Why don't they act this way? Those who get education simply flee to Europe? They hate their home?
>>16867484>Show me black people calling for the mass deaths of children and dancing over theirBut they do. Thats what all life is pre-programmed to do. All races do it, Europeans and Asians, with their achievements do it better. Its certainly not for lack of trying with the other races, they just didnt manage to work out how to do it better. Whats your point? Are you trying the noble savage routine us?
>>16883246>I can't get why it doesn't work like that in Africa. Go ahead, study and become a teacher, then make money since education is in such a high demand.Education budgets are limited, teachers require reaching and the proper accreditation, pay in general for most teachers globally isn't high and in places where it isn't unionized in the west it's legit ass. For many parts if the world western or not teaching isn't lucrative bora "first choice" for many professionals.>Those who get education simply flee to Europe? They hate their home?Would you travel to another country if you got a 7x (at the minimum) raise for doing the EXACT same job? The lure is extremely enticing globally. Not to mention states can't procure material bonuses or benefits to entice key professionals to stay like free housing because they would be legit very costly to do alongside determine a cutoff point.
>>16883260>Thats what all life is pre-programmed to doNot really.>All races do it, Europeans and Asians, with their achievements do it better.Feels lime a weird cop out. More so since it pretty much paints every Asian and Euro as some flavour of war-mongering Imperial Japan and Inperial UK.>Its certainly not for lack of trying with the other races, they just didnt manage to work out how to do it better.Who the fuck types like this? Peak midwittery.
>>16883801You described teachers in West, but I was talking about teaching in Africa. Guy above said that everyone in Africa wants education (which I confirm) -> teachers in high demand -> go and become teacher -> be in high demand -> make money. Why doesn't this logic work? > The lure is extremely enticing globally.So the education only makes Africa dumber due to brain drain? BTW many students come here to Europe only to work in food delivery. Isn't that sad?
The answer is yes, blacks are less intelligent. Some of you are dancing around it like clowns.The real reason is why. Is it their cultural disrespect for education and bad schools? Or is it genetic?
I love the mental and semantic gymnastics trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that, yes, everyone isn’t equivalently the same in intellect
>>16867396no and yes, its complicated. if your asking of black pop8uolations have a lower iq then yes, but its no it that they have a low iq because they are black.brains, genetics, and environments are really complicated and hard to explain, every population has a different genetic average with there being different average iq ranging from major to minor, selection can affect how frequent genes can become in a population and if the environment doesn't favor super high intelligence then high intelligence wont be super common and will default to the minimum intelligence required for the environment. Intelligence and IQ aren't a universal singular thing, there are different aspects of intelligence and IQs test for a very specific type of intelligence, like if a test was written with tailoring in mind and given to tailors then tailors would score high but if the same test was given to carpenters then carpenters wouldn't score high. brains like to optimize to what they experience frequently in their environment, if a brain is trained in a specific task it will optimize to that task and not for stuff that's viewed as not needed.Intelligence isn't all good, it costs a lot of valuable energy, and if it doesn't give and immediate advantage in the current moment in the current environment, evolution won't go that route especially if there are easier paths to go down.
>>16884040both, there is a lack of education and respect for it, lowering the iq, and due to life with low iqs being easy to live and not much benefit being smarter it makes selection preferer lower intelligence genes
>>16884237>there is a lack of education and respect for itThat's a US wide thing. Especially innthe policy front.>lowering the iq, and due to life with low iqs being easy to live and not much benefit being smarter it makes selection preferer lower intelligence genesTotal slop salad
>>16884033>Why doesn't this logic workFunding an education system is extremely costly.>So the education only makes Africa dumber due to brain drain?People do make return trip after a while. The journey in both directions isn't one way.>BTW many students come here to Europe only to work in food delivery.Job market is pretty ass globally.
>>16884154>obvious conclusion that, yes, everyone isn’t equivalently the same in intellectIndividually yeah. But trying to expand that beyond the scope of IEP testing or testing a specific subset of people for a specific research purpose is where IQ doesn't work out as.
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligent?compared to who?And which sample "black" population?Question is unclear and rhetorical, impossible to answer.>inb4 sophistryObviously yes, because question itself is illogical it yields illogical answers.>If so, why is that?Difference of IQ between groups?Genetics, environment, diet, culture, education, upbringing, etc.see:https://opentextbc.ca/psychologymtdi/chapter/individual-differences-in-intelligence/andhttps://wellnamed.s3.amazonaws.com/marks2010.pdfandhttps://wrap.warwick.ac.uk/id/eprint/80309/7/WRAP_1571912-ps-120716-hagmann-von_arx_assessment.pdf
>>16867396Africa is cursed. Ham traveled south, into Africa, after he was cursed by God. Each of his cursed descendants was cursed further, until someone was so cursed that he was forced to cross the Sahara. This is the ancestor of all Blacks.
>>16878396Blacks have such low IQ's that certain states have made it illegal to test them.
>>16867396>Are black people really less intelligent?>27 days agoWell, I'm too late to really get in at a significant point in the conversation but...On average, yes. But the difficult thing for many people to comprehend is:The range of difference in intelligence between individuals in any population is greater than the average difference between different populations. This leads to three interesting results, two of which should be relatively easy to understand the third slightly less so but still true:1. There are plenty of black people who are smarter than you (assuming you are non-block)2. On average, any randomly selected white person will probably be more intelligent than any randomly selected black person, but this does not zero the possibility that the opposite will be true.And finally (and this is the one that's so tough for a lot of /pol/ or near-/pol/ types to understand in their individual fields):Because of the filtering effect that is necessary to achieve mastery in any given field, it is likely that the difference between any two people in a given high-intellect domain is minimal compared to the average differences between their respective groups. In other words, it is foolish to discount the capabilities of a person based on their race if they have properly established themselves as a participant in the field in question. *Provided* of course that the selection criteria has not been corrupted. Which unfortunately is something that can, does, and has happened, which leads to the tragic consequence that racial biases are increased rather than diminished as a result of resentment towards the flawed system.
To give a shorter, grungier, more "2+2=4" answer to "Why", I offer as mildly interesting the observation that (I believe) the great Thomas Sowell (a black man, I will note, whose intelligence much of this site would be wise to look up to) put forth than primordial Africans likely had fewer opportunities for intellectual growth owing to unique landmass features of Africa making sea travel and foreign contact less viable during critical growth periods of the species. In short (if I may clumsily paraphrase and probably get it outright wrong) they had fewer unique experiences and incursions in their respective habitats, leading to a stagnation as a result of hereditary intellectual growth had fewer niches to fill for success. They just lived the same lives with the same dangers over and over without being exposed to new ones placing selective pressures on intelligence.or something
>>16885930>The range of difference in intelligence between individuals in any population is greater than the average difference between different populationsDoesn't matter at all. Either this difference is 1 or 40 points, both of your numbered statements remain to be valid.So I see the resistance of "conscientiously ignorant" is going down and the consensus of the thread that black people are less smart on average. Now let's consider the next topic, what's contributing more to intelligence, environment or genes? What do twin studies tell about it?
>>16867396They indeed are, but you're not allowed to say it's genetic. People prefer to dismiss any measure of intelligence than admit the obvious.As for what should be done, the answer is simple: do nothing. DEI will only mess with up meritocratic systems, it's better to just admit not everyone is a special snowflake and deal with it.
>>16886072>but you're not allowed to say it's genetic.Is this rule unspoken or I can read it somewhere?
>>16867484>Wars which kill multiple magnitudes more innocent people than anything street criminals could ever dream of is never presented as "violence". Violence in the parlance of the lower middle class IQfag consists entirely of what he sees on the subway.Yeah, being in a large black population puts you at the same risk of violence as being a soldier in an active war. That's kinda the problem.
Not really. Racist claimed that Africans were dumb because they didn't have a writing system but they didn't need it since they had very strong oral traditions
Would you rather be a high iq white parson who does NOTHING in life or a low iq black person who actually DOES something
>>16886257>Is this rule unspoken Somewhat.
>>16867934Redditards unironically "think" like this
>>16867396something to do with biological varianceif they have black skin and we have white skinif asians are lactose intolerant and we are notthe brain would likely be the same way
>>16867396They arent human.
>>16886072>DEI will only mess with up meritocratic systemsAnon DEI is EXTREMELY rare. Why bring up something that is outright constant being cut back and constant fucked over by private companies. No system has ever been meritocratic and it's myrrh that has been spread for way too long.
>>16886266Not even close. How deluded are you to think they are remotely close?>>16886286The thing is they always shifted the goalposts. they never wanted to acknowledge Africans having ANY system of transferring and preserving knowledge whether it was written or oral because that would requires having to do the bare minimum of research and/or acknloedgement
>>16886072>They indeed are, but you're not allowed to say it's genetic. People prefer to dismiss any measure of intelligence than admit the obvious.No one cares about IQ test scores IRL. People are jacking off to having 105 or 107 but that's not even an SD above the mean. The actual levels of intelligence worth a shit to laud and sing praises about is like 130+ at the absolute minimum and even then most people who score that high don't amount to much because most careers where having a high as fuck IQ like that would help a lot PAY LIKE SHIT or are mind-crushing and stress-inducing to the point your body gets fucked by it.
>>16886299>nigger detected
