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holiday sprites edition

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Lovely edition
Cancel gateway
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all in on $SEX
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God jul
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Thanks to the guy who posted about Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. in the previous thread. I had a nice Xmas, then read about that and I feel myself bitter, defeated and hopeless.
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>>16878187
the worry is overblown especially with SpaceX incorporated in Texas now
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>>16878190
Texas isn’t as based as people make it out to be, unfortunately. We NEED to get off this rock before everything becomes too dire
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>>16878190
I did some research, but the whole story is sad. World needs more leaders like Ford, not Dodge bros
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Are we still buying majority of spacex
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>>16878218
the IPO is going to be a small fraction of overall shares
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>Video of yesterday's Soyuz-2.1a launch from Plesetsk cosmodrome, carrying «Obzor-R» radar satellite. This is the 150th successful launch of a Russian rocket since the last launch failure in 2018.
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>>16878230
>150 Soyuz launches in seven years
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>>16878240
Is that ‘Z’ on the fairing political or am I thinking too hard about it
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>>16878244
thinking too hard. they did do a political Z some time ago tho
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>>16878187
errm, please no dooming on Christmas.
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>>16878240
>>16878244
>>16878254
It is political. That is exactly the same Z from years ago. It's even in the colors of a Russian military ribbon.
I didn't realize the ziggers were so pathetic that they were still doing this shit.
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>>16878254
>>16878260
I will be honest I didn't even watch the webm I thought anon was talking about the orientation XYZ Z
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2025 in Review

Launches to Mars

0: SpaceX
1: Blue Origin
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>>16878261
lol it’s alright, at least you’re up front about it kek
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>>16878271
shut up
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https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/2004340322936205461
>China successfully launched 9 Guowang satellites on its Long March 8A rocket from Wenchang Commercial LC-1. Guowang is a low-earth orbit internet constellation similar to Starlink.
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https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2004337955230699765
>Lots of phones & selfie-sticks out there in the morning:
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https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2004324478072115541
>Rollout of Soyuz-2.1b is happening at the Vostochny cosmodrome right now

Meanwhile as Vostochny, Russia is preparing to close out the year with one last Soyuz 2-1b/Fregat launch, carrying 2 Aist-2T earth observation satellites and about 50 rideshare payloads. Launch is planned for the 28th.
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>>16878290
Oh tannenboom
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>>16878260
>ziggers
you're being racist, Zubrin
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sfg is
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>>16878376
what is it?
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>>16878376
/SFG/ IS DEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCyoFv20740
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>>16878376
>>16878379
>>16878383
maybe because its christmas and nothing interesting is happening.
pretty much nothing is going to happen until next 2026
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>>16878218
I am going on an austerity budget until the IPO so I can get a satisfyingly large pile without having to sell any of my weighty tesla bag
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on the first day of christmas my true love gave to me 25 starships orbital
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>>16878213
be the change you want to see in the world
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Merry Spehsmas
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>>16878271
brutal
leo isn't spaceflight
spacex isn't spaceflight
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>>16878222
So all the normies will buy as much as they can, drive up the price, then all the big holders will sell and crash the price?
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>>16878480
there will be some third party sales going on at the same times, but I think there might be some lock up period for big holders idk
so maybe
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>>16878271
Also there will be at least 2 New Glenn flights(orbital) between the last and next Starship flight(suborbital).
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wouldn't assembling a centrifugal torus (alongside the starship) make more sense than squatting your ass in the stainless fairing
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With the power of AI, I have generated a summary of the previous thread

The page >>16875359 is a thread on 4chan's /sci/ - Science & Math board, specifically part of the ongoing /sfg/ - Spaceflight General series.Thread Title: /sfg/ - Spaceflight General (It's not Christmas yet - edition)Date: Started around December 21, 2025 (Sunday), and continued into December 23, 2025 (Tuesday).
Replies: ~300+ (very active, multi-day thread).
Status: Active and ongoing (as of late December 2025); no archiving or deletion noted.

Original Post (OP)The OP includes an image and links to the previous thread:Its not christmas yet - edition
previous >>16871961
This sets a casual, slightly grumpy "not holiday season yet" tone for spaceflight enthusiasts.
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>>16878522
Main Topics & DiscussionsThe thread is a typical chaotic /sfg/ mix of real-time space news, technical debates, memes, and shitposting. Key highlights include:Launch Coverage & Failures:Real-time reporting on JAXA's H3 No. 8 rocket failure (second stage combustion stopped prematurely, likely payload loss).
Chinese Long March launches (e.g., CZ-12A maiden flight: orbit success but booster landing failure; various other variants like CZ-10B renders).
Korean Hanbit-Nano hybrid rocket explosion shortly after liftoff.
Excitement and memes around failures (e.g., JAXA mascot "Clear" in distress, "dis honorable" jokes).

SpaceX & Musk Debates:Defenses of Elon Musk's timelines vs. NASA delays.
Discussions on Starship, Starlink Mini, land swaps for Starbase, potential IPO, and criticisms of Musk shifting focus to AI/data centers over Mars.

Technical Debates:Centrifuge modules for artificial gravity: pros/cons (e.g., inflatable designs like Nautilus-X vs. arguments that zero-G is better for most activities).
Hybrid rockets, hydrolox vs. other propellants, reusable tech challenges.

Other News:ULA's Tory Bruno resignation.
Indian ISRO successes, Russian launches.
Broader themes like the global space race (China advancing fast), Artemis/Gateway criticism, and fewer humans in space despite more launches.

Tone & StyleClassic 4chan /sci/ /sfg/: irreverent, meme-filled (GIFs, "baka", "joever", launch failure schadenfreude), with a mix of genuine space nerdery, cynicism about competitors, and occasional shitposting (flat Earth jabs, space feces jokes). Enthusiasm for rapid progress (especially SpaceX/China) contrasts with pessimism about human spaceflight and corporate/government priorities.Overall, it's an active, sprawling discussion hub for spaceflight enthusiasts tracking launches and industry drama in late 2025. If you're into real-time space news with a heavy dose of memes, that's the vibe.
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>>16878522
>>16878523
thanks, grok
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>>16878525
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1.29 million years AD sisters, are we worried about this?
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>>16878531
Nothingburger.
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>>16878531
There's still plenty of time to build a dyson swarm around Gliese 710 and use it's output to adjust its trajectory. Disrupted objects can be wrangled as well.
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>>16878531
Why do these diagrams never seem to visualize the oort clouds that doubtless exist around every star?
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>>16878531
>1.29 million years
meh, by that time we'll be able to move stars at our whim.
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>>16878474
Solar orbit is spaceflight.
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>>16878531
>some ice pebble get flung around
Nothingburger. And we will already be at Alpha Centauri by then.
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>>16878260
Zealot? A person who has very strong feelings about something (such as religion or politics) and who wants other people to have those feelings.
Nazi salute American people from his empire.
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>>16878547
>7 years ago
is this how muskies cope nowadays?
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>>16878547
I am flying through space right now!
Also I'm wasting time, so its SPACETIME
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>>16878547
only intergalactic orbit and beyond is spaceflight
anything past the local group is considered deep space
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>>16878531
I didn't know about the star. I was searching for the object that destroys us the other day. It's longer and has misshaped in the middle, like some strange moons, like Prometheus. I have the quantum vision to try and help us, even though Earth's destruction has already passed for me in the future. I would have to show some gravity.
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>still has not detected alien technology
how is this even possible
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>>16878561
because it's a scam
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>>16878561
it's not
data feeds from NASA space assets, actually from all usg space assets, pass through a censorship "AI" beforer being released or classified
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https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2004476923968413872
>First view on a fully assembled Soyuz-5! The rocket is currently at Baikonur, getting ready for its first launch. Looks like they kept the Kazakh name of the rocket – «Sunkar», along with «Soyuz-5». The first test launch from the Baiterek space rocket complex is planned for the first quarter of 2026, the Deputy Prime Minister of Kazakhstan said.
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>>16878572
Plt twist: they are secretly building Energia-2
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>>16878578
I mean, a lot of their heavy-lift proposals are multicore Zenits that just happen to be named "Energia."
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>>16878584
Are these historic, or modern? I cant even tell.
Its a clean museum, a relic from the past, or its an AI upscaling or complete fake, based on historic footage
Whatever it is, that's cool but when was this?
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Why not use electrons instead of Hydrogen as fuel? They should have a higher ISP.
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>>16878585
These were taken within the last few days. Roscosmos has been releasing Soyuz 5 photos pretty regularly for the last few months ever since the hardware for the first flight arrived at Baikonur.
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Long March 3B launch
https://www.youtube.com/live/Ym2FkcF09tg
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A large solar-powered AI satellite constellation would be able to prevent global warming by making tiny adjustments in how much solar energy reached Earth.
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CQLLISTO... HOME...
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>>16878592
And that's 13 Long March 3B/E launches for 2025. Rockets like the LM-8A and LM-12 are starting to hit their operational cadence, new reusables like the ZQ-3 and LM-12A are having their first test flights, and the Ariane 4 with Chinese characteristics still manages to pull off the best year of its entire career.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGKWZ5CR9g
no spaceflight, but sprites
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https://x.com/stockmktnewz/status/2004359909606137916
>SpaceX is now larger than the combined market cap of
>Raytheon $RTX
>Boeing $BA
>Lockheed Martin $LMT
>General Dynamics $GD
>Northrop Grumman $NOC
>L3Harris $LHX
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>>16878613
not high enough
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>>16878613
>>16878618
We could double it by going public and being beholden to even more dual-citizen shysters!
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>>16878625
>going public
Do they not teach you what this means where you're from?
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>>16878613
not spaceflight
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>>16878613
ok, but when Mars?
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>>16878630
for that they'll have to be bigger than the tech industry
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>>16878613
fake economy.
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>>16878585
half historic, half modern. It is basically the same design as the venerable Zenit launcher (which started as the boosters for the Energia heavy launcher), but modernized with all Russian tankage, engines, and avionics.
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TORY BRUNO JOINS BLUE ORIGIN
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>>16878651
>it's real
OH NO NO NO BO IS KILL
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>>16878651
The price for ULA was too high, so they just bought the guy with industry connections instead.
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>>16878651
>>16878653
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2004607908667953519
>We’re pleased to announce that @torybruno is joining Blue Origin as president, National Security, reporting to CEO Dave Limp. Tory will spearhead our newly formed National Security Group.
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https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2004607908667953519
>We’re pleased to announce that Tory Bruno is joining Blue Origin as president, National Security, reporting to CEO Dave Limp. Tory will spearhead our newly formed National Security Group.

Huh
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>>16878651
>>16878657
it's over muskrats...
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something is fishy
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Guess we have to watch out for Blue Origin snipers now
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why are they working on a major holiday
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ah yes
the man responsible for the government complaining that his rocket company can't launch NSSL payloads on time
lets have him be the nat sec president for Blue
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>>16878657
>>16878651
Space Borne cavalry
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>>16878661
maybe wash your cunt?
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sfg - /Snakes and Ferociter General/
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>>16878634
b-but Elon told me we would go to Mars?
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>>16878657
so what, they scooped him up because he has a bunch of nro and space force friends?
I hope the don’t put him in charge of anything other than winning contracts.
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>>16878586
the old mixing of fuels into fire&ice does has the oddity of misfiring now and then.
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>>16878618
this shit will double within the first week after ipo.
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>>16878651
Lol gay and predictable
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>>16878671
Kek
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i guess jeffrey is mad that they didnt get any golden dome contracts
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>>16878531
Simulations say all Gliese 710 is going to do is steal mars, so don't worry
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https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2004615510496071702
>Note the disappearance of the detailed red and blue markings on the LM-3B - something we have seen before on the LM-7A and now the veteran rocket now also takes the plain white livery!
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>>16878662
Parasite Unit
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>>16878681
golden dome isn't real
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>>16878657
Now they just need the rest of ULA.
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https://x.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/2004634255130030241
>Roskosmos announces (sort of) the delay of the 1st Soyuz-5 test flight beyond 2025, posts visuals of a fully integrated rocket in the assembly building at Site 42 in Baikonur (note the absence of the transporter-erector system, which is likely the main culprit for the delay). As we can see from newly released videos, the payload composite was assembled at Site 31 and then transferred to Site 42 for integration with the Soyuz-5 rocket, as it was previously done during Zenit and Proton launch campaigns.
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>>16878690
but will SpaceX get to Mars before Gliese steals it ?
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>>16878733
Mars belongs to the Terran empire. We will not let the gliesethief take it
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https://x.com/i/status/2004563010501959857

>Soyuz 2.1b with Aist2T №1 and №2 satellites, as well as 50 other smallsats is vertical on Vostochny cosmodrome.
>The launch is scheduled for December 28
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>China successfully launched Fengyun-4C metrological satellite on its Long March 3B/E rocket from Xichang LC-2.
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>>16878218
All that is required for /sfg/ collectively to control SpaceX and the future of spaceflight is for Elon to become an /sfg/ poster
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>>16878758
Musk totally used to be a /sfg/ poster, but then he found /pol/..
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>>16878763
and now he's having melties in the ai bait threads on /g/...
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>>16878681
I'll talk to my cousin to lobby for them
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>>16878758
>Elon to become an /sfg/ poster
There's no way he hasn't at least lurked here. He is (or used to be?) a /pol/ poster, it literally takes two clicks to find the 'science' board from there, and then the 'spaceflight' general to see if someone is talking about spacex. Btw, go back to 12m elon pls.
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>>16878561
detecting aliens or alien tech is not its mission and it has no way of actually doing that
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>Rollout footage of Soyuz-2.1b
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>>16878613
>another Elon Musk market manipulated stock
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launch license status?
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>>16878800
Tory Bruno is drafting the new BO lawsuit to block future launches as we speak
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Buzz Aldrin is daijoubu and with his family
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>>16878480
yeah that's the point. So they can raise money
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>>16878780
SETI was always a part of its mission. It has the most advanced infrared camera ever built which is able to differentiate between IR emissions from cosmic events and those associated with technosignatures.
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Does anyone else get the feeling that the reason why we can't see aliens dyson spheres and niven rings is because those things are actually retarded ork tech to build? What if endgame science and engineering is as alien to us as we are to bronze age civilizations? Maybe there would be a few basic things we can recognize like use of metal but it's mostly incomprehensible.
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>>16878813
Any intelligent civilization would pick learning how to fusion over building Dyson spheres.
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>>16878815
Solar is free, so no–you’re wrong
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>>16878815
what if fusion us unga bunga tech compared to end game energy generation?
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aliens boil water for steam turbines too
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>>16878813
There aren't any "aliens," the ones who check in and monitor us periodically are just different branches of humanity from the last technological peak where we figured out space warping. They triggered a global deluge with some kind of orbital system to reset the ones staying behind to the stone age and wipe away most evidence of their civilization.
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>>16878815
>>16878818
Dyson spheres is "ork" tech given the massive amounts of material and manufacturing needed and the relatively "simple" ways you can harvest the energy. Even then it's likely not a proper sphere but a constellation and will probably only able to ever use a fraction of a percent of available energy.
Abundant fusion is end game for human intelligence.
Proper Type 2+ civilizations are a fever dream for anything but a transcendent 4th or 5th dimensional being.
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>>16878826
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>>16878828
The universe also used to be a lot smaller. Ra's original creation was basically just Earth with pretty lights in the sky and primordial chaos past that, but we started asking too many questions and the universe had to be made larger. The gods subsequently had to leave because making reality bigger also made Apep bigger and that was a problem they needed to go deal with.
While the rest of the universe has retroactively existed for 13-whatever-billion years, as we currently see it, no other planets have actually developed intelligent life because the gods didn't make them directly.
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>>16878839
yeah
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>>16878840
Glad we're on the same page, anon
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>reading "Safe Is Not An Option" because Eager Space recommended it
>he mentions the roanoke island colonists joining the "Siberian-Americans"
>footnote says that nobody is native to America, and he will henceforth refer to them simply as indians
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>>16878845
but I thought the garden of eden was in Jackson County, Missouri
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>>16878810
Good. He needs to live to see Arty III, God willing
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>>16878244
>Is that ‘Z’ on the fairing political
Yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_of_Saint_George#Russia
>During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the colors of the ribbon were used in conjunction with the "Z" military symbol, which became a pro-war symbol that appeared across Russia.
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>>16878850
As I have proposed before, we need to freeze him.
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>>16878816
It has major limitations unless you can store it cheaply, but it looks like we're actually approaching that point.
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>>16878244
Unlike the US titan IV or Chinese LM, Soyuz is literally still the same ICBM it was 50 years ago
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>>16878845
kek, gigabased
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>>16878862
just wait for sodium batteries :^)

>Rajasthan, India
>Rajasthan
kek
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>>16878839
>Ra
ok Goold
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>>16878813
The laws of physics are the same everywhere, so everything converges to the same technologies

>>16878862
Now show battery losses (and depreciation) as a function of age (also with the solar panels)
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>>16878845
As an aside, I just want to point out how it feels like there’s coincidentally been at least 1 tolkien reference per /sfg/ thread. The books/movies are so ubiquitous and quotable lol
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>>16878845
yeah, im thinkin based
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>there’s coincidentally been at least 1 tolkien reference per /sfg/ thread
Much that once was is now lost, for none now live who remember it.
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>>16878932
Long have I desired to look upon the kings of old, my kin.
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>>16878909
Just like how the laws of physics are the same everywhere on Earth, so all living organisms are identical.
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>>16878946
My nonbinary silicon-based lifeform gf disagrees. No carbon in her system
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>>16878657
>>16878651
Bezos is retarded?
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>At 0208 UTC Dec 28th (Dec 27th 6:08 pm PST, 9:08 pm EST) SpaceX will carry out a Falcon-9 launch 'CSG-3' from Vandenberg Space Force Base. The instantaneous launch window aligns with 'twilight effect' launch window! This launch will be abnormally visible to a large region. View the event map to see when and where you can view this launch! YOU WILL NOT WANT TO MISS THIS!

>Event Map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1oko0bZvm_ljj5YD42oJVE6S02ZPIm9o

T-21:00:00
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>>16878954
>gulf of america
err.. based?
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>>16878964
google maps shows the borders and names of whatever is most politically expedient depending on the IP location of the user
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>>16878909
>The laws of physics are the same everywhere
you're assuming we know all of them
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>>16878958
Maybe when you learn enough you figure out something better than space travel
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>>16878862
don't mind me, just passing through
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we need some insane news
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>>16879094
If you get 10 (you)s, there will be insane space news.
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>>16878954
>still contracting SpaceX
it's almost as if Ariane 6 still throws away a massive core stage and is therefore extremely expensive to launch most satellites with. Why are Euros like this?
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>watching yearly news recap/comedy show
>"Blue Origin's space rocket made big news this year with an important milestone..."
>omg theyre going to talk about the New Glenn landing thats so cool!
>"by launching Katy Perry an all female crew into space"
i hate earthers
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>>16879109
>watching (earther media)
I see you like being angry.
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>>16879109
the news is clearly about katy and not blue
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>>16879109
>comedy show
>makes joke
u may be dum
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>>16879109
Do you realize how little normies know about this stuff?
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>>16878721
>just
*don't
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>>16878443
And a Happy New Spehs
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>>16879131
Is this the FAMAS rocket?
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>>16879094
i'll hang on for the crazy news instead
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>>16879132
its about the most FAMAS rocket ever built
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things normies know about space
>apollo is fake and gay
>space is a waste of money
>aliens visit us
>rocket launches lower property values
>we need focus on earth first
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>>16879123
lel
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>>16878812
>SETI was always a part of its mission.
No it wasn't. It was built to study early galaxies. Even adding capabilities to study exoplanets was something that was an afterthought.
Also actual SETI receives almost zero government funding because it's not really science.
https://www.eso.org/~rfosbury/ngst/ngst_documents/NGST.pdf
> It has the most advanced infrared camera ever built which is able to differentiate between IR emissions from cosmic events and those associated with technosignatures.
There is no magical measurement which can prove this. It entirely depends on what you assume the technosignatures should be.
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>>16878561
Because you bought into the mindless hype on youtube and new media that it would definitely find aliens, when really it can barely detect atmospheres of habitable planets and really only around M dwarf stars. If these tidally locked planets are not habitable then JWST will never find biosignatures.
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>>16879165
the most active ever is and yet its more active on earth during your typical thunderstorm. dead world.
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>>16879165
you should ask doctor about that
pretty sure nipples aren't supposed to do that
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>>16879103
I think the greater reason is the limited production rate and that Amazon bought all the spare capacity
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>>16879122
>>16879139
What's the point of them, do we actually NEED normies for anything? They could be liquidated into constituent components and burned as fuel.
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>>16878603
>Ariane 4 with Chinese characteristics still manages to pull off the best year
Why wouldn't it? The rockets serve different markets. LM3B is a GTO rocket.
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>>16879167
All the more reason why we need an established human presence on Mars. It is our duty to know God's universe inside and out.
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>>16878603
They need to ramp up those numbers even more because what Tory means here is pretty obvious. They're going after Chinese sats in GEO.
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>Tory joins Blue
>There go all the SpaceX military and NRO contracts

Hate to see it happen.
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>>16879109
>by launching Katy Perry an all female crew into space
That's the joke
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So, we're agreed? Blue buys ULA. Moves the LEO launches to Blue. Moves the NRO and defense backlog to Blue. Tosses Vulcan, Atlas and debt into a spin-off that immediately goes bankrupt.

Tory wins the game of thrones.
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>This is footage captured by a camera from Mount Fuji, pointed toward the zenith and north, of a long-path fireball that streaked across at 1:13:38 a.m. on December 27, 2025. It was a sporadic meteor with an entry angle of 8 degrees and was not an Earth-grazing meteor. It was a high-speed meteor with an eccentricity of 1.05.
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>>16879211
Not really

>Blue buys ULA
Why? There's almost nothing there that they could possibly want, and nothing that's worth the price Boeing is certain to ask for it.

>Moves the launches to Blue
ULA can't reliably follow through with those launches. All Blue needs to get those customers to jump ship is to get New Glenn flying regularly. No purchase is required.

>Tosses Vulcan, Atlas and debt into a spin-off that immediately goes bankrupt
That's not how that works

>Tory wins the game of thrones.
Tory's current job is the President of National Defense Stuff for Blue Origin. He's not actually involved in any serious engineering or management; his job is to have a lot of first-name relationships with DoW suits so he can convince them to shift their payloads to New Glenn. His overall managerial power is actually quite limited. This new job is not a promotion for him.
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Nate Higgers and like-minded individuals must once again return to the moon.

https://www3.nasa.gov/send-your-name-with-artemis/
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>>16879237
Is there even any moderation with this if they already have over a million names? Can we use this to warn aliens about the jews?
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>>16879240
Kate Hikes is on the case.
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>>16879237
just launch the bitch already
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>>16879241
kek
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>>16879236
ULA owns a giant backlog of government launches. That the asset one buys.
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>>16879236
Blue buys them and those Vulcan launches get moved over to New Glenn.
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why is the body of starlink blue in color?
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>>16879266
Catching the light of the Earth. The body of the satellite is a very strong but omnidirectional reflector, which makes it have uniform but low brightness in any given direction.
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>>16879266
Blueberry flavored.
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>>16879266
if it were green, it would die.
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>>16879272
It would be extremely painful
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>>16879266
its had a blue blue Christmas
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>>16879274
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>>16879266
Speedrunning Factorio.
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>>16879245
>>16879247
One doesn't need to buy anything to get to launch those missions. Vulcan was supposed to launch a dozen times this year. It launched once, and the Pentagon is fucking pissed. If ULA doesn't kick things into high gear ULA is going to lose multiple payloads to Falcon in 2026 and the DoW is going to start looking for a reliable LPS to take ULA's place. All Blue Origin needs to do is get New Glenn flying regularly and then launch a few of the natsec missions they've already got on time and with no drama, and they can absorb ULA's portion of NSSL without having to spend a single dollar.

Buying ULA to get their launch manifest was a valid argument back in 2023. Things have changed since then.
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>>16879109
all was good until they brought them back
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New schizo
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>>16879285
I hate chatgpt emoji spam
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>>16879272
da ba dee da ba die
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>>16879285
>no mention of Mars
/sfg/ in shambles
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>>16879297
There wasn't a Mars emoji, so it couldn't be incorporated into project athena
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>>16879294
[math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math] your cringe unc
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>>16879302
baka
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>>16879297
errm actually, he does mention Mars in the full interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3L4CdHeYg
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>>16879316
IT'S OVER.
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>>16879325
time to buy the dip
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is anything happening
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>>16879329
50/50, either it’s happening or it isn’t
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>>16879285
"Have fun on the Moon -- for that one single Moon landing. In 2032."

Guess our astronauts can throw rocks at the Chinese flag that's already there.
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>>16879282
ULA has the contracts. They keep those until they give the back or the government goes thru a prolonged process to null them for non performance. At which point anyone can bid, but Blue will get them.

Proof? Look at how ULA got those launches in the first place. It sure wasn't just n cost and performance.
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>>16879329
only if you dont look at it
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>>16879285
can we just create a separate agency to mine the Moon. Ffs, this is the single most important space endeavor of our time
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>>16879356
X
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>>16879338
>They keep those the government nulls them for non performance
Exactly. It's called an exit clause and it's already lost ULA a GPS launch. If they don't pick up their launch cadence by the end of Q1 next year it's going to lose them a lot more. The process is no where near as involved as you seem to think it is

>At which point anyone can bid, but Blue will get them
At which point it goes to the other national security launch provider, which right now means either SpaceX or Blue Origin. "Bidding" was never planned as part of the process, as when the process was laid out there were only supposed to be two launch providers. Right now the payload will go to whichever of the current providers the Space Force/NRO/whoever feels is the better option. This is why Tory Bruno has his new job with Blue; he's good friends with all the people who will be making that decision.

Which means that Blue doesn't need to spend any money buying ULA to grab most of their current government payloads.
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>>16879356
"AI" did. Nice clock Ahmed
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>>16879289
I think we know who's behind this.
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anyone make a good small scale lunar roving vehicle model?
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>>16879356
>discovered millons of new space objects
>using artchival data from some old NASA project
wat. someone explain please
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>>16879384
humans had missed them, the machine learning model he made (according to the post) discovered them from the data and they were verified
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>>16879356
>"AI" bullshit
We're never getting off this rock, are we?
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>>16879385
https://neowise.ipac.caltech.edu/news/neowise20250411/
I see, he "made" a model with the "help" of many others in a project that was something his mentor was going to work on.
cool, I guess.
why didn't they do this when the sat was still alive, though?
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>>16878909
>Now show battery losses
so like 4%?
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>>16879390
there was probably some easier low hanging fruit
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>>16879389
You are absolutely right!
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Why are NASA employees so against Isaacman?
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>>16879415
Mentally unwell troons complain about anything light and pure in this world, more news at 8
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>>16879415
Lots of money goes in, very little product comes out. Isaacman wants to change it up so money goes in and product comes out. Now, what kind of person is that going to upset?
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>>16879415
>i dont support the current thing
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>>16879415
this is a bait post.
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>>16879415
glassing earth status?
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>>16879415
>”NASA employees”
>actually just random redditors
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>>16879467
reminder that reddit is full of shills, trolls, bots, and astroturfing
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>>16878947
>No carbon in her system
Why not, Anon?
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>>16879366
>My ex keeps missing me, but her aim is getting better!
>Her aim is getting better!
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>>16879385
What is /sfg/ doing to advance the cause of spaceflight? Get off your asses
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>>16879534
I work for NASA
in a role that directly supports crewed spaceflight
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>>16879356
>Matteo Paz from Pasadena, California, recently won the first place prize of $250,000 in the 2025 Regeneron Science Talent Search

And how's your life going?
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In his project, Matteo developed waveform-based machine learning methods to sort the entire catalog and efficiently detect and characterize potential variables within the telescope’s data, including a machine-learning algorithm dubbed VARnet. He produced a complete census of 1.9 million infrared variable objects, 1.5 million of which are new discoveries, including supermassive black holes, newborn stars and supernovae. His project was carried out as a staff researcher under NASA funding.

So, one would think that would have been part of the NASA science program for this mission from the start.
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>>16879553
transformers have only been around for what, 8 years?
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I will for NASA too. In their Department of Dune Studies. I'm in Longitudinal Dunes right now, but I'm hoping for a promotion in the next couple of years to Transverse, where there's some real excitement.
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>>16879553
i was never good at ML. you've gotta be a special type of autist for it.
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>>16879555
A Submillisecond Fourier and Wavelet-based Model to Extract Variable Candidates from the NEOWISE Single-exposure Database
Matthew Paz
Published 2024

Transforms have been around for a long time. Junior year college math. Wavelettes have been the new hotness since the 70s.
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https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ad7fe6

This paper presents VARnet, a capable signal-processing model for rapid astronomical time series analysis. VARnet leverages wavelet decomposition, a novel method of Fourier feature extraction via the finite-embedding Fourier transform, and deep learning to detect faint signals in light curves, utilizing the strengths of modern GPUs to achieve submillisecond single-source run time. We apply VARnet to the Near-Earth Object Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (NEOWISE) single-exposure database, which holds nearly 200 billion apparitions over 10.5 yr of infrared sources on the entire sky. This paper devises a pipeline in order to extract variable candidates from the NEOWISE data, serving as a proof of concept for both the efficacy of VARnet and methods for an upcoming variability survey over the entirety of the NEOWISE data set. We implement models and simulations to synthesize unique light curves to train VARnet. In this case, the model achieves an F1 score of 0.91 over a four-class classification scheme on a validation set of real variable sources present in the infrared. With ∼2000 points per light curve on a GPU with 22 GB of VRAM, VARnet produces a per-source processing time of <53 μs.
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I should have paid more attention in my feedback class
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>>16878813
we cant see them because we are the truman show of the galactic community
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(you) will apologize to Sean Duffy when China lands on the moon first.
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>>16879566
But it'll be too late
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>>16879385
>>16879390
The catalog used to do this has like 200 billion entries in it, most of which are garbage. Nobody is looking through this stuff by hand. This dataset was produced to find near-earth asteroids, which is why it contains every source individually.
>>16879553
WISE was built to do a sensitive mid infrared all sky survey, which was completed in the first few years. After it's cryogen ran out it was extended as NEOWise, which would add depth in two of the filters and find new near earth asteroids.
The data has been used to do variability work by other authors, using a variety methods. The press release is a bit misleading in that it suggests the objects are "newly discovered", when they are all already in the source catalog. Maybe they weren't flagged as variable, they aren't new objects. It is very impressive for a high school student to publish a paper.
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>>16879562
so a bit more than just "AI" in the sense of asking some chatbot to do this
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to the kid, $250k is a huge sum of money. to Elon, that's what he makes in a few seconds while sleeping.
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>>16879589
The math part seems to be standard signal analysis. Copy past from code packages. His creative bit appears to be optimizing that code for his vidya card.

Not trivial hacking, and probably deserved his prize.
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>>16879566
The narrative has shifted to 'it doesn't matter if they land first because they're not interested in a long term presence'
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>>16879648
isnt that wrong? we know china is interested in having a moon base. they're even leading the ILRS.
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>>16879657
It's largely because they don't have super heavy lift capability yet. Yes they are serious about this project, more than they publicly say. But their plans could easily get delayed the same as ours have. At the end of the day what matters is what you field.
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>>16879661
>super heavy lift
yeah but reusable tho
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>LAUNCH at 1318 UTC Dec 28 of a Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat from Vostochniy on a rideshare mission putting Aist-2T №1 and №2 and fifty small satellites in orbit.
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New Sloss. Lots of talk about upcoming schedule problems for Artemis
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>>16879733
that building at the bottom left of the rocket makes it look so small and cute, as if it was about 6 floors tall.
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>>16879733
Russia ends the year with 17 launches, one short of Rocket Lab's Electron with 18 launches (three this month).
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>barely more launches are scheduled for next year as compared with this year
what went wrong?
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>>16879661
Long March 10 seems to be going forward okay. And China has 5 years before the US is even close to ready for a landing attempt.
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one thing that is going to be very entertaining is all the SpaceXQ people that come out of the woodwork when SpaceX goes public
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>>16879779
falcon 9 maxed out
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>>16879779
V4 will fix this
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>>16879786
>>16879779
Wikipedia being speculative. SpaceX hasn't announced any plans for how many launches there will be in 2026, but they just got approval for up to 100 launches from Vandenberg.
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If there’s no market for Falcon Heavy then why blow billions on an even bigger and more ambitious Starship?
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>>16879792
SpaceX is their own customer for Starship. They create their own demand via Starlink. Falcon Heavy does not improve this situation because they're bound by fairing width limits before they're bound by mass limits. And trying to take advantage of the improved upmass doesn't work out because to actually see meaningful improvement they have to expend the center core, which makes each launch much more expensive. SpaceX don't need anyone else's interest to benefit from Starship.
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>>16879792
because first and foremost starship is a starlink transporter
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the only market that doesnt exist is for sending people in to space. look how many private launches we got in all the years that dragon has been available: 3. two of them are from the same guy (jared). vast is going to flop. axiom is going to go out of business. colonization is kill.
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>>16879785
Elon will have to show the SpaceX financials. And we'll all have a hearty laff.
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>>16879803
one billion dollars for cybertrucks
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>>16879805
SpaceX Net Profit to Date: Negative Infinity

That prospectus is going to be a must read.
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brilliant pebbles?
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>>16879808
no thank you, I already had lunch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ7O2gigebQ
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>>16879779
is there a real need for more?
t.tourist
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>>16879810
brilliant pebbles are part of a complete strategic defense
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>>16879814
yes
we need to move prisons to space
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>>16879814
more starship launches
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>>16879816
what kind of crimes do I need to commit to get sent to space?
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>>16879816
Specifically the moon, trust the plan
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>>16879803
>SpaceX financials
guh
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>>16879814
that many cars pass by my house before lunch
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>>16879821
You keep posting this book every thread ever since I finished reading it. Just more proof that I live in a simulation...
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>>16879820
crack denuvo games
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>>16879821
based and lithobolia pilled
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I don't understand henlein
he drops awesome books
then also writes shit where he goes into detail about a bridge game and female childbirth
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>>16879824
don't look up 'solipsism' :^)
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>>16879827
Autism.
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>>16879830
but autism wasn't invented until 1986
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>>16879827
>he goes into detail about a bridge game
without even bothering to check I can bet anything he was in the navy
navy fags love bridge, don't ask me why, but it's a thing
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>>16879835
its a thinking mans game according to gemini
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>>16879837
@grok is this true?
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>>16879835
lmao I was right he actually graduated from Annapolis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Navy
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>>16879835
>>16879839
Kek
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the fuck are these captchas lmao
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>>16879844
New IQ test, instituted by Hiroshima Moot to stem the tide of jeets posting.
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>>16879844
probably because there was a recent wave of bots spamming. eventually 4chan will die cuz ai bots will be too good.
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>>16879846
If the ai bots get too good could we just have our own personal 4chans?
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It really bugs me this thing is called 'Starship', it obviously has no interstellar capabilities. Let's rename it!
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>>16879852
Spaceship
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>>16879852
starship is hype marketing
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>>16879853
LEO =/= space
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>>16879852
and what about those so called 'space stations'? they are barely in space at all and certainly aren't stationary. what a con.
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>>16879844
Studies show if you do puzzles everyday you get smarter
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>>16879859
same with elon musk, he is not actually an eel on musk, what a conman.
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>>16879852
sat-transport-ship
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>>16879866
Has anyone ever had those Australian musk-flavored Lifesavers?
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>>16879866
that ain't no bird neither
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So, instead of fixing his Mars rocket that's blowing up on the ground in Texas when you put air in the tires, Elon is off:

New York Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani (D) on Saturday rejected Elon Musk’s argument that his appointment to head up the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) is inexperienced.

Screaming about Fire Chief appointments in New York. So yeah, doing that instead.
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Every ****ing day. Every single ****ing day this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on his face.
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>>16879885
But enough about Jeff Bezos
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I didn't realize Casey was a Chud
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/2005383485792584166

>>16879882
yes, but it took me a while
some of this information should be in one or two separate graphs
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>>16879892
All these fags do is complain about California, move to texas, and just make every state worse. America is a shithole now, everyone is paying thousands/millions/billions in taxes and it all goes down the drain
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>>16879892
"Wah wah! I don't want to pay taxes!"

Then move. These I'd Totes Colonize Mars bros don't even have the initiative to move across the border to Nevada.
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>>16879816
That didn't work very well with MD Geist.
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>>16879896
>>16879897
https://x.com/zoink/status/2005093365243908226

the point is this will basically force founders to move
but they would like to continue living in california, its just that a wealth tax will make that impossible at least if they care about the company
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>>16879947
>They want to live in California but not pay taxes.

No. Pay or leave. The other alternative is to reform the tax laws. Prop 13 passed because people worked to get it passed.

Maybe do the later instead of playing pretend astronauts.
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>>16879882
It is sad how sparse the plot gets when you actually get down to Earth mass planets. This should improve significantly in the coming years, after ESA hopeful launches PLATO next December. Kepler was limited because most of it's stars were too faint to follow-up with radial velocity to get the masses. TESS had a much wider view, but it didn't dwell long enough to really detect any Earth-like planets. PLATO should be just right.
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>>16879952
So you actually support taxing jnrealized gains?
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>>16879959
If that's your issue, work in that instead of playing pretend space man.
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>>16879956

2X fields like pic:

The PLATO Input Catalogue for this field contains more than 9000 dwarf and subgiant stars of spectral types from F5 to K7 with mV < 11 that will be observed with a random noise lower than 50 ppm in one hour, and more than 159,000 dwarf and subgiant stars of spectral types from F5 to K7 with mV < 13.

Since the nominal operational phase duration of PLATO was established as 4 years, its baseline observing strategy assumes two LOP fields observed for two years each. However, this is conditional to the analysis of the mission performance in the first year of operations. This analysis may lead to a decision to extend the observation duration of the LOPS2 from two to three or even four years to maximise the probability of the detection of Earth-size planets with ~1 year orbital periods, leaving a second long pointing to a potential extension of the PLATO operations. The PLATO spacecraft has been designed to perform scientific operations for at least 8.5 years.
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>>16879964
You don't even seem to ubderstand what I'm saying
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>>16879974
This is a space thread. How about talk about space or head back over to pol.
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>Twilight Jellyfish Alert! Long March 7A (CZ-7A) launches from Wenchang LC-201 on 2025-12-30 (early morning local). In the first minutes of ascent, the 1st stage may catch sunlight before separation—perfect for “space jellyfish”. Best view: Hainan and parts of Guangdong/Guangxi.
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>>16878954
NextSpaceFlight is saying it is scrubbed for the day. Bad weather again?
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https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2005442675122778330
>To allow more time to perform ground system checkouts, standing down from today's launch of the COSMO-SkyMed Second Generation mission. A new target launch date will be shared once confirmed

Looks more like it's a persistent GSE issue. Right now FAA notices are saying launch is no earlier than the 31st.
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can't wait to check my email tomorrow to see what isaacman has in store for us
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>>16879882
This is astrophysics. Not spaceflight
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>>16879952
>No. Pay or leave.
How do taxes work in the US? Do they really have different laws in different states? Doesn't the IRS just take a chunk out of every paycheck?
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>>16880050
>How do taxes work in the US? Do they really have different laws in different states?
Split between federal and state taxes. There are only a few states that don't have state taxes.

>Doesn't the IRS just take a chunk out of every paycheck?
Yes, but only for federal taxes. State taxes are also deducted from your paycheck, however, they are not collected from the IRS.
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>>16878154
Rock, ice and dust.
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>>16879785
Stocktards of either persuasion will be terrible for discourse, just like Tesla. At least now 1s and 5s don't really have something to gain from their delusions, with the IPO they can become financially motivated.
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Will be near 'ape 'anaveral for next week
Chances I can catch a launch? spaceflightnow looks dry
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>>16880128
BACK TO WINNIPEG
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If you stack all Americans on each other, you could reach the Moon.
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>>16880164
My favorite rocket is Vulcan.
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The space science year in review

https://www.space.com/astronomy/the-top-astronomical-discoveries-of-2025
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>>16880154
If you stacked every toilet in India on top of each other you could reach the top of a fridge.
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9m inflatable rotating habitats
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>>16879882
Yes but that chart is ass cancer
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>>16879356
>>16879361

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/2005503731664904506
Jared is currently in his honeymoon phase, he’s throwing out jobs right now like hotcakes.
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Do the paid space trolls have holidays or why is it so quiet?
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>>16880327
we're dead mate
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25 flights in 2025 status?
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>>16880327
many anons killed themselves after the IPO news
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>>16880331
There's still time
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>>16880331
sugarcoated
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>>16880249
We need 1/3 g spin habs soon
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>>16880124
Until India starts stacking hardware all launch dates are to be considered imaginary. The ISRO's demonstrated launch rates for the last few years has consistently been half of what they were predicting the year before.
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What are your predictions for the year 2026?
>How many Starship flights?
>How many New Glenn flights?
>Will SpaceX catch the Ship? If yes, when?
>When will Neutron launch?
>How many new rockets will have a successful landing and which ones?
>Will Planet 9 be discovered?
>What is the size of the biggest asteroid that has at some point a hit probability of at least 1%?
>What will be the NET of Artemis 3 at the end of year 2026?
>How many astronauts will die?
>Any other predictions?
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>>16880357
26 flights
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>>16880357
>2
>15
>no
>q3
>1, zq3
>no
>1m
>q4 2029
>4
>superheavy crashes and takes out the tower
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https://x.com/TitaniumSV5/status/2005594622949769250
>Seems like the discarded payload fairing from ISRO's LVM3-M6/Bluebird launch has reached a beach in Sri Lanka. (M6 launch had the ISRO logo below the State Emblem)
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>>16880361
Take that you bloody basterds
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>>16880361
waiting for the media to complain about this just like they complained when Starship tiles reached Turks & Caicos beaches...
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So what's the actual reason for Artemis II being a crewed mission again?
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>>16880371
Cargo cult Apollo 8
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>>16880371
To test if wemens get hysteric when they are too far away from Gaia.
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>>16880367
thing: basedjak staring
thing (but elon musk): basedjak seething
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>>16880249
0.5 g Von Braun gravity wheels
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>>16880371
We don’t say “crewed,” sweaty. We say womanned
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>>16880361
>>16880367
while sri lankans will be happy for the free housing materials.
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>>16880371
might as well use it once
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>>16879852
>editing starship to be "below the horizon" on the left image
Kek people actually fall for this
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>>16880154
>If you stack all Americans on each other, you could reach the Moon.
As of 2020, there were 258.3 million adults living in the United States. (I don't feel like trying to account for children's varying heights.) Multiplying by the average American height of 1.68 m, the American stack would reach approximately 433,944 km. The distance to the moon is only 405,400 km at its apogee.
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>>16880421
what are we waiting for? lets build the fucking bridge.
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>>16880343
If you want space tourism you need a 1.5g gains hab. All the people that have the money to go to space want to get the most out of the complimentary gym.
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>>16880425
finally, someone with a good idea
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>>16880425
resistive training is a thing
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>>16880430
People on the ISS even with exercise still experience some bone and muscle loss. Obviously resistive training isn't enough
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>>16880436
would be in 1/2 to 1 G
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>>16880425
70m ring at 6rpm will get us 14m/s of gravity. Seems doable
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>>16880450
Might as well shove the passengers in a washing machine. The coriolis effect will make everyone lose their minds within an hour.
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>>16880451
The gravitron ride is 24rpm and that gets like 3g. 6rpm should be more manageable. You can also keep the 70m diameter and drop the rpm if you dont care for the gainz station aspect
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its a disturbingly quiet monday
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>>16880475
Another option is to build a counter rotating inner ring / gravitron to work out in
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>>16880475
>>16880495
>pic
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>>16880496
indian rotating space station, 2150
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>>16880492
There was a huge drop off once it was confirmed SpaceX will go public
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>>16880371
Because NASA loves to murder astronauts. Remember, A2 has an untested life support system and no docking hatch. No possible rescue in space.
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>>16880357
No Starship catch
No Starship reflight
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Planet 10, because Pluto is a planet, discovered in the first batch of Rubin Telescope data. Bonus: so is Planet 11.
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>2nd stage of Soyuz-2.1b, found in Vilyuysky District of the Sakha Republic after yesterday's launch. Source: Rescue Service of the Sakha Republic
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>>16880512
>untested life support system
how untested?
> No possible rescue in space.
how would a rescue be carried out in space even if they had a super awesome docking hatch? theres never been a rescue in space.
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>>16880519
Atremis I launched without a functioning ECLS system because at the time of launch all of the hardware wasn't done being assembled. There is not going to be an all-up test of the life support hardware until there's a crew in Artemis II relying on it to keep them breathing for the next ten days.
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>>16880519
>No Hatch, No Problems

The life support has never been tested in space in the A2 configuration. The docking hatch will also go on A3 without a test in space.

Everyone aboard is going to die and get a junior high in the Midwest named after them.
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>>16880518
they tank the landing a lot better than I would have expected
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>>16880524
>Atremis I launched without a functioning ECLS system
ok....but the full stack has been extensively tested in their thermal vacuum chamber. let's not pretend that its going to launch with an untested life support system. thats needlessly belligerent and also untrue.

it'll also get tested during pad operations including plugs out testing.
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>>16880526
so what does the lack of a docking hatch matter again? any planned dockings? any possible docking under any circumstances apart from somehow maybe needing to go to the ISS which seems unlikely?
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>>16880529
"Okay but" isn't A good attitude when it comes to crew survival.
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>>16880533
its been in vacuum for weeks..it'll be tested intensively on the pad...apart from actually having been launched how has the life support not been tested?
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>>16880532
Since there's no docking adapter, there are no rescue options of any kind, so won't even discuss scenarios that are impossible.
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>>16880536
The lesson of the Apollo 13 life support debacle was what now?

You sound like a model NASA employee. If you don't work there now, apply.
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>>16880537
without a planned launch for another vehicle such a rescue is impossible, you're right.
they can fit out the man hatch in a suit they can get out that why and grab on to the ISS or something.

>>16880540
more testing of pressure vessels and their associated equipment. you sound like a flat earther. if you aren't, you should go to /x/ now.
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>>16880545
CSM 119 says "Hi!"

But guess the new guys just get to die.
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Once I was in a plane and I stood up on decent, I felt like an astronaut.
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finally some good food https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcJMT1rW8Lg
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>>16880570
nevermind its shit
>3 minutes of spooky satellite ops
>3 minutes of ads
>15 minutes of talking about kerbal and the iss
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Where should the /sfg/ meetup take place?
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>>16880581
what ads? are you retarded anon?
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>>16880592
mars
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>>16880595
the sponsored segment
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>>16880602
>sponsored segments don't auto skip themselves on all videos he watches
suck to be you I guess. get better at technology
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>>16880592
Duluth, and then in Bucharest the next year, of course.
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Erm, actually I *can* outrun my problems. The faster and faster I go, as I approach c, means more and more time will pass on earth. If we took a constant 1-g ship and went out to betelgeuse or the orion nebula and back, so much time will have passed on Earth that by the time that we return SURELY there will be star trek-tier post scarcity society with UHI.
All we need is a giant fuckhuge medusa ship and a lot of nuclear material and we can do it
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>>16880621
What if I told you it was even easier?
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>>16880621
Count me in, anon, I also wanna leave everything behind and travel to the future. Another option is cryonics. I wish it was legit and a thing already. Year 3000 here I go.
>>16880625
Yeah but there's still no real-life anime waifus.
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>>16880527
The terminal velocity is probably pretty low, but I'm surprised there's no residual propellant. IIRC, the Chinese boosters/stages blow up on impact

>>16880375
Do not eat the forbidden honeycomb
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>>16880621
Wanna say this was a major plot point in one of the ender books.
Part of a lifetime spent in ships flying close to lightspeed and accumulating either 300 or 3000 years of forward time.
It's been awhile so I forgot exact numbers.

Spend a few years to acquire a hundred years and your forgotten about except in the most coldest of archives. Everyone you love is gone tho unless they are with you.
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>>16880604
>suck to be you I guess. get better at technology
I just kept hitting the right arrow key (not being a phonefag) to skip five seconds at a time until it was over.
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>>16880568
Related, but what's the point of seatbelts on spacecraft? Turbulence isn't really a thing, and a seatbelt isn't going to save you from something catastrophic.

>>16880682
>he doesn't know the keyboard shortcuts
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>INTERSTELLOR testing CYZ-1 crew capsule with blurred retro-thrust system.

Gentlemen, we have New Shepard at home
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>>16880687
w-why did they copy Blue Origin? Like, do they have to copy everything they see no matter how nonsensical it is? what's next, copying Virgin Galactic?
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>>16880633
>Yeah but there's still no real-life anime waifus.
>he doesn’t know that asian women exist in real life
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>>16880693
So Bruno draws first blood in his new armor…
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>>16880691
Virgin Galactic is a lot less successful than Blue Origin. And they're copying New Shepard because they want their own New Shepard. There's a lot of nouveau riche Chinese oligarchs who'd pay a lot of renminbi for a Karman line carnival ride.
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>>16880693
Tell me it's a UFO schizo again...
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>>16880692
>asian women
I unironically don't like their eyelids. I might be odd, but Epicanthic fold is a massive turn-off for me. That's why I said anime, those giant eyes are literally drawn to be as attractive as possible.
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>>16880685
>Related, but what's the point of seatbelts on spacecraft? Turbulence isn't really a thing, and a seatbelt isn't going to save you from something catastrophic.

Here are five instances where a woman has actively controlled the acceleration of a spacecraft (e.g., through manual operation of thrusters, attitude control, or flight corrections):

1) In 1963, Soviet cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova manually operated the Vostok 6 spacecraft to address a potential malfunction during her orbital mission.

2) In 1995, NASA astronaut Eileen Collins manually piloted the Space Shuttle Discovery during its rendezvous with the Mir space station on the STS-63 mission.

3) In 1997, NASA astronaut Susan Kilrain served as pilot and actively controlled the Space Shuttle Columbia during the STS-83 mission.

4) In 1997, NASA astronaut Susan Kilrain again served as pilot and actively controlled the Space Shuttle Columbia during the STS-94 mission.

5) In 2000, NASA astronaut Pamela Melroy served as pilot and actively controlled the Space Shuttle Atlantis during its approach and assembly operations at the International Space Station on the STS-92 mission.
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>>16880700
I do wonder what the internal politics were like within NASA around the time of Eileen Collins and the first women commanders and pilots and such. I bet there were some harsh dissenters lol
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>>16880699
There are round eyed, semi-squinty and fully squinty ones. There are hundreds of millions of them. A bit of variety is to be expected.
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>>16880691
>they have to copy everything they see no matter how nonsensical it is
ahem
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>>16880425
the future "standard" for habs will be .5g and 500mb (50/50 Oxygen/Nitrogen)
YOU'LL GET USED TO HALF AS MUCH EARTH GRAVITY AND AIR PRESSURE AND LIKE IT!
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>>16880691
Yes, its all a psyop. See also Buran
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>>16880704
why dont they copy oneill cylinders or dyson spheres
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>>16880700
And yet the midwits care more about the New Shitard flight that was full of holes.
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>>16880436
1/3 G is enough to prevent permanent bone and muscle loss, even for year+ long voyages
(trust)
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>>16880739
m-may I ask for the source?
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>>16880749
If you can walk, you can rock
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>>16880691
oh yeah... now I want to see them make a go at Arca's teakettle rocket!
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>>16880768
And SpinLaunch's trebuchet
>unbalance causes RUD, kills everyone with shrapnel
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>Hmm a satellite series that I didn't expect to be featured today gets a new satellite in orbit! This LM-4B successfully launched at 04:12 UTC w/ the newest satellite named into the Chinese cartography-use series, Tianhui 7, the 16th "sky-drawing" satellite launched since 2010.
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why do unmanned rockets need launch towers again?
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>>16880842
reasons
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>>16880842
Emotional support
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>>16878215
Likely, though Mars will have its problems, I would rather put a staging branch in a different spot that I chose.
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>>16880842
Excellent question, they need cooling, and the rocket needs to be perfectly stable while it is aimed at the correct trajectory alignment.
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>>16881010
>the rocket needs to be perfectly stable
our rocket tech is so primitive
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>>16880666
same for the "Forever War' books. those are really good btw if any anons haven't read them.
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>>16880842
They don't
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>american rockets can't be launched during bad weather
>russian rockets can be launched during fucking hailstorms
why are american rockets such delicate snowflakes?
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>>16881041
Russians and Chinese use denser less efficient materials but the good thing is it has better weather tolerance.
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Could Isaacman's ears be used for aerobraking?
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>>16881049
earobraking
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>>16881043
isn't steel a "denser" and "less efficient material"? can spacex rockets do it?
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>>16881049
ablative wax coating
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>>16881041
real answer: because most are repurposed ICBMs, which naturally were designed to launch in any weather.
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NSFF - Starship Flight 12: Launch date is now NET April 5th according to the STA.

And it's over for SpaceX.
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This STA uses information from grant 1800-EX-ST-2025 for high power uplink static beam at the South Padre Island and Starbase Office antenna locations. STA is necessary to authorize a static beam for uplink frequencies 2056 MHz and 2062 MHz for the booster and ship on Starship Test Flight 12 launching from Starbase TX. This STA is necessary for Starship Super Heavy vehicle communications at SpaceX facilities located in Boca Chica TX.

Launch vehicle communications for Starship Test Flight 12 mission launching from Starbase, TX. It is used for a static beam.

Start Date: 04/05/2026
End Date: 10/05/2026

Artemis launches before F12. Did not have that as a 2026 prediction.
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This STA is necessary for SpaceX to perform experimental flight testing of a navigation radar on board an airplane out of Hawthorne, CA and Starbase, TX. Emissions will radiate toward the Earth.

The testing requested is designed to characterize performance of radar measurements at various speeds and altitudes.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=147550
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>>16881071
holy shit how did it get this bad
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>>16881076
Because Elon is off girl bitching at the Mayor of New York about their Fire Chief appointment instead of TCB n Boca.
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>>16881071
ahhh gimme a break, we were born to just suffer in this world. I should go get a different hobby.
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>>16881071
fucking April?
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>>16881071
26 launches in 2026 btw
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>>16881085
April NET. That may -- let's be honest -- will slip.
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>>16881087
well, the Great Elon managed 25 flights in 2025 so it shouldn't be a big deal!
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>>16881087
One Starship launch every 10 days, starting Easter Sunday 2026. We can do this!
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F12 in April makes 6 months since F12. Best case.

How many tanker flights for Elon's Moon Bus was it? Twenty to forty per Berger's source.
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>>16881098
Since F11 obviously.
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>>16881071
oh shit
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>>16881071
starship is just a show to distract us, isnt it?
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AI is more important
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>>16881102
from all the record breaking F9 flights?
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>>16881071
What went so wrong?
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>>16881108
not spaceflight
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>>16880682
there's an app for that
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>>16881110
at least spaceflight adjacent
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>>16881075
I see January 30, where is everyone getting April from? Because some fag said so any nobody even checked?
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>>16881116
Idk, the person who said April seems really smart and the post has many (you)s, so I guess it is true.
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>>16881116
There is a link right there silly billy. Did you try clicking that to confirm?
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>>16881116
It's amazing how gullible people on this website are.
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starSHIt launchin on july 30???
rofl elon is fucking done for
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>>16881119
That screenshot is from the link dumbass
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>>16881116
yes and im ok with that thankyou
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>>16881116
>>16881123
He posted the wrong link:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=147620
It is actually over....
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>>16881125
>october 5th
ELOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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why dont we all just calm down and wwait to see what happens? yes, i think thats the best thing to do in this situation
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Use your fingers to figure out which month April is......... And then tell us what you feel.
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That might be my bad. There were two links, one didn't post.

This one should show the April date:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=147620
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>>16881138
That seems to have worked:

Callsign: WA9XDE
Class of Station: FX
Nature of Service: Experimental

Requested Period of Operation
Operation Start Date: 04/05/2026
Operation End Date: 10/05/2026
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How many New Glenn flights between flight 11 and flight 12?
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>>16881144
I hope all of /sfg/ will write an apologize letter to the FAA
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>>16881144
Wikipedia sez:

Before Aprilish 2026

New Glenn: 2
Vulcan: 4
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Starship in 2026:
>Launch delayed to May
>May launch failed because there is something wrong with the booster
>July launch, booster works but ship loses connection a few minutes after separation, reason unknown
>September launch, ship successfully lands in water
>October launch, ship successfully lands in water
>December launch with catch attempt, ship catch aborted
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>>16881138
The April document specifically says its for Starship.
Purpose of Operation
Please explain the purpose of operation: Launch vehicle communications for Starship Test Flight 12 mission launching from Starbase, TX.

The first license beginning on January 30 covers both Texas and California, and its just aviation stuff, calibrating their instruments:
Purpose of Operation
Please explain the purpose of operation: The testing requested is designed to characterize performance of radar measurements at various speeds and altitudes. This STA is necessary for SpaceX to perform experimental flight testing of a navigation radar on board an airplane out of Hawthorne, CA and Starbase, TX. Emissions will radiate toward the Earth. The testing requested is designed to characterize performance of radar measurements at various speeds and altitudes.

So I guess we are shit out of luck, SpaceX is struggling with demons right now
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>>16881151
This is best case scenario
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>>16881151
this but December gets delayed to next year
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>>16881151
Think Elon Inc has said they need 1+ orbital Starship flights with a splash before they attempt a Starship catch.

So that puts more flights in your queue before a flight with both a Booster and Starship catch.
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>>16881151
>Launches in April, it goes perfectly
>May launch, perfect catch
>June, first starlink v3s launched
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>>16881071
Whelp that's it I guess I'll come back to /sfg/ in April. It's not like SpaceX is going to be all that special any more since it's going to be public. Just another profit seeking company that doesn't care about leaving earth
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>>16881071
What the fuck happened since 2019? The suborbital campaign was peak Starship and aside from the occasional kino moments like the first successful reentry it feels like it's been downhill ever since
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>>16881183
That's why we test.
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SAVE US JEFF
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https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1pzmjbv/spacex_ipo_2026_a_generational_play_or_a/
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>>16881188
If SpaceX can't get us off this rock, no-one can
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>>16881183
steel was a mistake.
ship reuse was a mistake.
and they're too far gone to back out now.
they could drop ship reuse and claw back dozens of tons of performance but they won't
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>>16881193
you are retarded
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>>16881190
New Glenn eventually gets you a Saturn I to V class partially reusable booster at lower cost. Can do a lot of exploration and Moon bases with those stats.
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>>16881193
I am also leaning towards steel being a mistake. The manufacturing benefits and durability are good, but Starship is so fucking heavy that they have to do all this micro-optimization shit just to get a decent payload margin. Raptor engines running to their breaking point. Dumping preburner gas into the tanks and then adding massive filters when the engines start choking. All to gain a ton or two
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>>16881189
>Their moat in launch tech is absolutely not untouchable. Blue Origin and Rocketlab are rapidly catching up.
>It will be like Tesla , started the revolution. In few years competition is better with shit sales.
>Starlink has been available globally for years, tons of publicity, great product, and has only 8MM subs; the market is small and niche. Launch services is, I suspect, a money-loser.
man these people have zero clue about space lol
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>>16881193
You really want to reuse the ship. The reason why partial reuse of super heavy lift is a bad idea is because the upper stages themselves are like several heavy-lifts.
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>>16881199
the point is to have thousands of ships, tens of thousands
mass manufacturability is a critical requirement
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>>16881201
There are many people from places like Saudi Arabia, China etc with a lot of money because they're bullish on Elon Musk not necessarily his products. Tesla stock has not been tied to its value for quite some time now.
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>>16881203
*betting a lot of money
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>>16881203
There are restrictions on foreign stock ownership of companies in space and defense, like SpaceX.
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>>16881151
>>May launch failed
>>July launch
Unrealistic.
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what a rough couple of weeks for spaceflight. really ending on a highnote eh
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>>16880687
why does the capsule have pubic hair?
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>>16881199
This is too retarded not to be bait.
New Glenn uses milled isogrid aluminum
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>>16881262
expensive materials and manufacturing techniques matter less on reusable vehicles where you can amortize the cost of building it over 20+ flights.
plus the payload mass gains compound over said lifespan
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>>16881258
its clearly come of age and is ready for action
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Engineers never thought this would be easy. It was a fail until you win program, and the progress shown is adequate to continue full steam ahead, nothing so far is a showstopper, so fuck the haters
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>>16881272
we know. New Glenn is set to be the best rocket produced by Mankind.
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>>16881258
China is doing what Jeff never had the courage to.
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>>16881189
Wait, wouldn't a SpaceX IPO unironically hurt Tesla stock, thus hurting Elon? I mean, many treat Tesla as the Elon stock, or as a proxy to SpaceX, so once the latter is available to the public they will flock en masse to it, dumping (or no longer buying) TSLA in the process.
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>>16881278
Spacex would become a de facto part of Tesla
consider it one company with two arbitrary stock prices.
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>>16881189
That comment section is out of touch with reality. Is there some kind of contagious mental disease that has affected millions of people that makes them ignore/forget the fact that SpaceX launches stuff into orbit around 10 TIMES MORE THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED?
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>>16881295
i wonder if its people trying to lower the price of the stock by dissuading others from wanting to buy it. if they can say the stock is shit then they can get in on the ground floor for cheaper. then they can pump it like crazy.
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>>16881295
I don't think they know
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>>16881258
Its to protect delicate western sensibilities.
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>>16881138
RIP 2026 Mars launch window.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57YgaoB5SQI
>The Future of Falcons 9 and Heavy
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>>16881347
Elon can't even throw a YOLO partially fueled Starship toward the general direction of Mars as a futile gesture this window. Nothing until 2029 Jan.

But the Blue launched probes orbiting up there now will. Utter SpaceX humiliation. I
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>>16881363
>But the Blue launched probes orbiting up there now will.
I literally have no comeback for this, unironically embarrassing.
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>>16881366
SS never had orbit as part of its mission plan. if it had, a lot of little star link sats would be in orbit still as well.
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>>16881355
>You know what else has a mass of 26.5 tons?
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>>16881355
>63t capacity vehicle has a 19t mass constraint
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>>16881369

"Starship could go to orbit but we don't wanna!"

Oh dear.
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>>16881378
you really want to say the engines couldn't manage another 20 seconds or so burn time? come on, try and be reasonable. i know its hard when it comes to anything Elon related but do your best.
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>>16881377
63t is for LEO, the higher energy is used for more difficult to reach orbits instead of just more mass
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>>16881380
>>16881380
Starship hasn't reached orbit. Starship hasn't even been launched with the prop load for orbital insertion. And certainly hasn't been launched with the cargo mass of an orbital flight.

So, no. Starship hasn't demonstrated orbital fight in any way. But Blue has. So has Vulcan.
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>>16881385
>hasn't even been launched with the prop load for orbital insertion.
yes, thats what i said. the question was if you really think the engines couldn't be run a little (very little) longer if that had been the plan.
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>>16881396
no thats absolute impossible
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>>16881396
Engines can't run without fuel. SpaceX has failed to demonstrate lifting up enough prop for orbital insertion.

So, no. Don't believe in things that haven't happened.
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>>16881397
i guess it must be
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>>16881393
5 of 6 birds dead

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKS_(satellite_system)
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>>16879356
>jew gives his nephew a job
breaking news
>>16878531
>the great filter is this
>it usually happens all the time
>the time between now and this event is only 0.025% of the time life has existed on e*rth
>we're only here for extreme luck
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>>16881393
>>16881400
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH
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>>16881393
>Old Soviet shit runs out of station keeping fuel
>Funds for replacements got embezzled
Such is life in Russia.
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>>16881393
What is the future of russian aerospace?
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>>16881436
same as europe's
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>>16881295
That's Falcon, not SpaceX. Different company.
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>>16881469
I can't believe Felon Husk is taking credit for Falcon's hard work!
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anotha one

>U.S. Space Force and SpaceX Partner to Develop 480-Satellite MILNET Constellation
>The U.S. Space Force (USSF) has confirmed the deployment of a dedicated military satellite communications architecture, designated “MILNET,” in partnership with SpaceX. The constellation will consist of approximately 480 satellites designed to provide high-bandwidth, resilient communications for global military operations.
>MILNET is designed to operate as a high-capacity “backbone” layer alongside the Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture (PWSA) currently being built by the Space Development Agency (SDA).
>While the SDA’s Transport Layer focuses on low-latency tactical data inputs (such as Link 16), MILNET provides the heavy-lift data transport required to move massive intelligence and sensor files across theaters. This hybrid approach allows the USSF to utilize SpaceX’s volume production to achieve orbital density, complementing the SDA’s multi-vendor tactical mesh.
https://news.satnews.com/2025/12/29/u-s-space-force-and-spacex-partner-to-develop-480-satellite-milnet-constellation/
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Since SpaceX delayed the CSG-3 launch by another day to January 2, then China's CZ-7A launch of a pair of Shijian milsats completes the orbital launches for 2025. A record month capping off a record year!
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>>16881393
https://x.com/coastal8049/status/2006082942234444158
>COSMOS 2546, a Russian EKS missile launch warning satellite's X-band TTY beacon is presently active.

>I surmise recent lack of orbital corrections on the later EKS spacecraft may be evidence of extended mission behaviour.
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>>16879852
I liked ITS
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>>16881514
>Interstellar Transport Ship
That's just as bad!
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>>16881518
come to think of it, starlink doesn't sound right either. Earthlink? no lol. Maybe PlaNet? The Mars-Earth could be InterPlaNet like Cerf envisioned.
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>>16881527
>starlink doesn't sound right either.
cope, chud. it's still orbiting around a star.
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>>16881049
They're actually radiators.
That's why he's always going on about nuclear electric propulsion.
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>Recap of the plan which Chinese LSPs made in the beginning of 2025.
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>>16881189
Uh guys... did we forget about Kessler Syndrome?
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>>16881553
How does Kessler syndrome personally affect the average working class man (me).
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>>16881544
This there a correlation between IQ and ear size? The perhaps the reason some people are smarter is due to the better cooling their brain gets.
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>GALACTIC-ENERGY has completed the assembly of the Pallas-1 (Y1) flight vehicle. With the hardware now fully integrated, the company is firmly targeting a 2026 debut for this new liquid-propellant rocket
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>>16880405
ideal
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>>16881149
ooof
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>>16881553
>[insert technology] won't be relevant when there's a global war and society collapses
Wow, I never thought of it like that.
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https://x.com/cb_doge/status/2006204705010241682?s=20
Elon Musk on X Spaces tonight:

"The biggest opportunity on the moon is to make solar cells and radiators, and then, you're manufacturing on the moon anything that weighs a lot, chips maybe still come from Earth, they weigh very little. And then you can use a mass driver to put a billion tons of AI powered satellites into orbit per year. You could set a scale to 100 terawatts of AI compute per year from the moon. We already have 9000 satellites in orbit. So we know what it's like being in space."
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>>16881590
Funny enough, Starlink could be the backbone of a post-collapse peer-to-peer internet if it didn't get Kessler'd. All you need is a solar panel and antenna.
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>>16881620
It would only last a handful of years before the satellites reentered and everything fell dark again.
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Reminder that the Golden Dome is a waste of money.
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>>16881624
If you used most of the stationkeeping fuel onboard to raise the orbit of the constellation, keeping a small reserve for emergency maneuvers, how many years could you buy?
It'd be a hit to latency but at that point I doubt anyone would care if it means the network stays up for a significantly longer time.
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>>16881624
If SpaceX wasn't expecting to replace them before what ever collapse occurs how high of an orbit can the starlinks push themselves? Since having a slower connection is much better than having no connection at all.
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NSF X account still hasn't made a post about the April launch. There is still hope...... right?
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>>16881620
They need to start stockpiling them in warehouses as preparation
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>>16881636
>>16881637
An orbit raising maneuver would probably buy several decades but it would be more vulnerable to Kessler Syndrome.
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>>16881608
>Flight 12 after Easter

Sure Elon. You're going to build a fleet of solar powered VGA cards on the Moon. Maybe two fleets just in case you lose the first one.
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>>16881624
>>16881636
Turns out you can get like a century if you do a single orbit-raising burn with 90% of the fuel onboard.
That'll only apply to the most recently launched, but it means the network steadily declines in throughput over 100 years instead of disappearing in 5.
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>2040
>the Trump empire loses to the Chinese owned southern territories of South America after a series of nuclear strikes by the Venezuelan Super State, a vassal state of China
>the failure of the Golden Dome has made low earth orbit unusable for the decade.
Hughes net Chads can't stop winning
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>>16881608
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2006194186341552414
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>>16881648
solar panels and radiators on the moon, the chips on earth
which you would have heard on the start of that clip
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>>16881662
>Making the chips on Earth and sending them to the Moon to be wave soldered on the VGA cards makes Elon's plan perfectly reasonable

Okay.
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>>16881661
>Hopefully
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>>16881661
>SpaceX third

He just doesn't care anymore. He wants the new shiny pretty.
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>still no talk of the lagrange point orbit factory using materials mined on the moon to make satellites
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>>16881670
they talked mostly about spacex there
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>>16881674
Looks like a direct quote. Mars third. At best.
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>>16881678
Oh, sorry. No Mars. Just that Starship might work. Maybe.
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>>16881672
yeah in like 100 years maybe. I wouldnt wait with baited breath on updates
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>>16881664
New Years fireworks preparation
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>>16881482
100,000 satellites will be in orbit by 2030
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>>16880666
Mazer Rackham and Ender himself both use relativistic travel to go into the future.
People in the Xeelee Sequence books do it as well, but carry wormholes with them that link to ones left behind in the solar system so people can travel back and forth between the past and the future.
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2026, year of doomposting
>starship NET easter, no starships go orbital
>artemis 2 RUD, entire program gets canceled
>vast station fails to attract enough business, company goes out of business
>russia officially abandons manned spaceflight
>europe uses lawfare against itself to further hinder ESA
>china cant into reusable rockets
>ULA goes into hibernation
>blue moon gets canned
>rocket lab hostile takeover by activist investors
>spacex IPO
>AI bubble crashes after spacex IPO leaving the company doubly fucked
>bloodthirsty democrats sweep the midterms and go straight for elon's throat
>AI bubble crash causes shockwaves through the economy, ending in dozens of spaceflight startups going out of business
>every korean, japanese, iranian, etc. launch fails
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>>16881742
>vast station fails to attract enough business, company goes out of business
I'm honestly kinda worried about this as Vast seems like the most likely to actual launch something.
>russia officially abandons manned spaceflight
>blue moon gets canned
>AI bubble crashes after spacex IPO leaving the company doubly fucked
>AI bubble crash causes shockwaves through the economy, ending in dozens of spaceflight startups going out of business
None of that wouldn't actually surprise me. Unless Blorg are further along than I thought I wouldn't expect Bleu Moon to launch before 2027.
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>>16881742
the good thing is all of that would rejuvenate /sfg/
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In 2026, Isar Spectrum will go orbital ushering in a new age of EVROPAN spaceflight.
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>>16881771
year of the aryan spaceflight is upon us!
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>>16881742
Everything on that list seems more probable than not. Except Team Asia will get some birds up.
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>>16881608
have a reminder:
>cb_doge
https://x.com/cb_doge/about
>Date joined
>May 2021
>Account based in
>India
>Connected via
>India App Store
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>>16881788
Direct quote. If you have evidence to challenge, post it.
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>>16881552
Most of those are embarrassing. At least pioneer only delayed to january.
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>>16881788
who cares
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How tf are they going to get 25 flights in by the end of the day??
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>>16881771
nice premise, you should post that on fanfiction.net, many would read it.
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aussie bros, how's 2026 going? did elon achieve any of his promises?
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>It's a wrap! In 2025, SpaceX not only set a new record for launches in a year, they launched more rockets in a single year than the Space Shuttle, Apollo and Gemini programs did in their combined history. CONGRATS... and so excited for what 2026 will bring!
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https://x.com/Kairos_SPACEONE/status/2006379861678739711
>Happy New Year. We sincerely appreciate your continued support for Space One and the Kairos rocket this year as well. We hope that this year will be filled with hope and promise for all of you. Space One Co., Ltd.
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>>16881819
with reuse and a lot of ships and boosters
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>>16881831
>Linear growth since 2022 for Falcon 9
>Only one more launch in 2025 compared to 2024 for Starship(suborbital)
>Flight 12 (suborbital) in April
Gigafactory will change everything.... right?
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>>16881831
>they launched more rockets
Not to space.
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>Tests, milestones, and momentum. Our 2025.

In 2026, India is revolutionizing commercial spaceflight... with a new solid-fuel launch vehicle with a payload capacity of less than half a ton
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>>16881843
I guess it might be good to have some people who have experience with solid fuel rockets, could be useful for military applications.
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>>16881831
>A F9 launch is just as good as a Saturn V launch.

Okay. Sure. Also note they're comparing unmanned to manned launches, except for Dragon, and hoping we won't notice.
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>The next Vulcan rocket is reporting for duty! The USSF-87 launch campaign is underway for Vulcan's second U.S. national security mission. The Vulcan VC4S will deploy this mission directly to geosynchronous Earth orbit (GEO) using the high-performance Centaur V upper stage.
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>>16881742
>doomposting
>>artemis 2 RUD, entire program gets canceled
why start your doomer list with good news?
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>>16881771
spaceflight and spaceflight accessories
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>>16881857
>ULA Vulcan ready, willing and able
>SpaceX Starship delayed by an Easter Egg hunt

Elon in Third Place and falling behind.
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>>16881832
leaning hard into that vaporware rep
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>>16881843
yeah that's an ICBM lol
400 kg of boom-boom
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>>16881847
That's kinda the reason why India has to buy all of its liquid propulsion designs from other countries. They didn't get into the ICBM game until after the Minuteman and Topol had proven that solid fuel was the best choice for ballistic missiles, so when they started work on satellite launchers they didn't have a Titan or Soyuz to base their designs off of.
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>>16881843
>Applause over a hypergolic igniting
Guess India is easy to please.
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>>16881874
its the simple pleasures in life
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>>16881850
>A F9 launch is just as good as a Saturn V launch.
It's actually better cause you can use the first stage again.
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>>16881879
Falcon’s purpose is to try and bring down cost and increase output to orbit.
Saturn V’s purpose was to mog and aura farm
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>>16881881
Falcon 9 does the latter better.
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>LANDSPACE is going public! According to the Shanghai Stock Exchange, LANDSPACE's IPO application has officially been accepted as of Dec 31. The company is seeking to raise 7.5 billion CNY (~$1B USD)
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>>16881888
the first fucking day of the year and we already have bad news
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>>16881888
>SpaceX goes public
>never gets to Mars
>Landspace goes public
>never lands a rocket
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>>16881888
Raising money for their new and innovative space datacenter constellation.
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>>16881771
They really are going to go orbital before RFA even gets back to the pad, aren't they? I'm glad they're doing well but fucking hell.

>>16881788
Good to point out but at the same time, it'd be more surprising for a Musk cocksucking Twitter account not to be based outside the US.
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>>16881885
Nah not better than a Saturn V
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>>16881888
Lol even more ironic coming from a communist country. I hate everything.
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will I become an assternout if if I blow all my savings on the SpaceX IPO?
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>>16881839
I hope they keep it just for the memes
Though how the fuck have they not at least put a webcam on there, you could make bank with that easy
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>>16881907
you might become an hero and a real human bean
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One anon has the chance to make the new /sfg/ thread.
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>>16881920
>>16881920
>>16881920
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>>16881903
true. no better rocket to watch than the S5. it was perfect
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>>16881907
>assternout
>SpaceX IPO
Kek it's not in SpaceX's fiduciary responsibility to have astronauts, only data centers.
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>>16881992
um ummm but le charter says le hekkin marserino colon! My prince Elon would never betray mee!
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>>16881835
The first successful Falcon 9 landing happened in late 2015. It took another five years for that to matter.
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>>16881398
By this logic:
New Glenn can't launch more than 1.5t to LEO, or launch more than twice per year.
China can't land astronauts on the moon.
Neutron can't even get off the ground.
Etc.
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>>16882080
that right. EDS has a lot to answer for
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