>life expectancy hasn't actually changed AT ALL for humans that make it past adulthood>people still easily die in their 70s from the same cancers and other ailments that have always killed humansWe haven't improved diddly
>>16884611Utter bollocks, almost no one died of heart attacks until the 20th century, cancer was rare, it was mostly diseases like TB
>>16884614OkayBut we still die in our 70s just like our ancestors who didn't get a pathogen to rape their insides
>>16884611Meanwhile, the galaxy throws us a planet shattering object in next to no time on the galactic scale. What do you think this is saying to us?I think if what it creates can't keep up with the amplitude of the wave, then it stays behind and gets redeveloped. People would stay behind and have another life, it comes in packs like protons, the life genesis for a overall calculation on the future of your person.
>>16884611Do you want a planet with 1 trillion useless eaters?
>>16884673If we didn't have to die we'd be truly space faring by now
>>16884679We still can let people have a long lifetime because they are still suffering. They have to overcome a brain function together to expand on other areas.
You mean despite paying more taxes, life hasn't improved ?Y-you don't seriously think the government would lie to us, r-right ?
>>16884611Newsfalsh: Until science swallows its pride, lowers its standards and merges with spirituality it doesn't know shit. Life expectancy is based on the person. You have to merge with spirituality to understand the REAL reality of your PERSONAL life expectancy. You can't keep trying to group everyone together in groups by race or age or location or size. Everyone is different. There are certain things you can do like tapping on your chest which REVERSES aging. Oh no, but wait that's a spiritual concept right? Isn't that like a new age thing? It's the reason you don't understand shit and think we haven't improved. You people think the fact that aliens just upgraded our DNA with a vaccine is pseudo-science. Keep thinking that.
>>16884691I don't think they took into account people aren't an equation on the overall gravity of themselves.
>>16884611I feel like increased adult life expectancy isn't even something worth seeking out desu. Why would I want to spend more time as an old geezer with a broken down body and a mind sliding into dementia while the people I know die off?
>>16884611Life expectancy across all ages has improved greatly in just that past couple centuries.
>>16884976If we actually figured out ways to treat dementia it wouldn't be as much of an issue but we never will cause lol
>>16885182>New study shows Alzheimer’s disease can be reversed to achieve full neurological recovery—not just prevented or slowed—in animal modelshttps://case.edu/news/new-study-shows-alzheimers-disease-can-be-reversed-achieve-full-neurological-recovery-not-just-prevented-or-slowed-animal-modelsMaybe it will pan out this time.
>>16884695you seem like a retardI'm really hoping that aliens and magic and spirits and shit are real, brobut, like, I don't see any reason to believe any of it is realwhy don't you just provide evidence that this shit is real?if you're so sure it's true, tell me WHY you think thatwhat REASONS have convinced you?
>>16885077Much of that is down to things like occupation, famine, and wars that don't relate to Inherent biological issues so much as historicaly really corrosive lifestyles. A healthy person in the west is always going to top out around 80 with a few extra years tacked on by modern medicine, because much of the problem is DNA damage. either cancer happens or things just degrade in efficacy.Regarding coronary disease, heart disease ect, the Amazonian tribal people have near perfect circalotry systems, because they>eat natural diet>constant activity>little air pollutionBut they still age anyway. You need to prevent errors in the gnome, or correct them at a fast enough rate. A few large animals do this, see the greenland shark and giant tortoise, but they are also slow and metabolically quite different from humans.
>>16885327>Much of that is down to things like occupation, famine, and wars that don't relate to Inherent biological issues so much as historicaly really corrosive lifestyles.Holy cope. If that were true we'd see these numbers make discreet jumps when legislation was implemented and wars ended. Instead it's consistent growth which more accurately maps to imrovements in diet and medical care."Natural diet" is a meme btw. Nothing about food being "natural" confers any health benefit.
>>16885251Oh boy another thing that works in mice we fucked withIf it actually does work and we somehow solve dementia I'll chop my dick off
>>16885255>I'm really hoping that aliens and magic and spirits and shit are real, bro>but, like, I don't see any reason to believe any of it is realtouch grass and stop posting here, and it'll be a lot easier to change your pov on these things.
>>16885513>"Natural diet" is a meme btw. Nothing about food being "natural" confers any health benefit.Holy lardass cope.
>>16884691>, life hasn't improved ?It actually has, significantly, just in metrics that conflict with your ego and resentment. Unfortunately the former are quantifiable and the latter are not.
>>16885513>"Natural diet" is a meme btw. Nothing about food being "natural" confers any health benefit.Then why is it that hunter-gatherer tribes who don't load up on shitty carbs and processed sugar all day have healthier teeth than countries that have adopted agriculture? Why are they taller, sturdier, and have stronger immune systems before being "civilized"?Also, the modern medical industry is based on the palliative paradigm, which is more about subsiding pain and symptoms rather than offering cures. So people nowadays aren't really healthier at all, just in less pain.
>>16886032Good goyim repeating Enlightenment talking points.
>>16886035Now you're shifting goalposts. Grains and whatnot are generally considered part of a "natural diet."To answer your questions:Lack of cavities is probably due to a low carb diet but also lower lufe expectancies.Hunter gatherers were not taller than people today.I'm not sure how much research has been done on their immune systems but if it's true that's probably due to exposure to a vroader variety of pathogens.>the modern medical industry is based on the palliative paradigm, which is more about subsiding pain and symptoms rather than offering curesBecause finding a "cure" for most diseases is a pipe dream. The most effective path most of the time is to manage symptoms to prevent critical damage to the body while the immune system does the heavy lifting. If there were a magic science goo they could give you that would eliminate the pathogen from the body entirely then it would be a million dollar pill.>people nowadays aren't really healthier at all, just in less pain.And live longer.And get sick less often.The only argument you could make here is overconsumption and sedentary lifestyles have resulted in fatter and weaker people but that's not really to do with the nature of the food and more to do with how plentiful it is and how little effort it takes to acquire it.
>>16886069>Grains and whatnot are generally considered part of a "natural diet."Says WHO exactly? Hunter-gatherers don't eat grain.>Lack of cavities is probably due to a low carb diet but also lower lufe expectancies.What a bunch of bullshit. There's no causal chain here you can pinpoint, you're just stringing random phrases together.>Hunter gatherers were not taller than people today.I said the hunter-gatherers that were modernized ended up shorter, retard.>Because finding a "cure" for most diseases is a pipe dream. The most effective path most of the time is to manage symptoms to prevent critical damage to the body while the immune system does the heavy lifting.Glad we agree that modern medicine is useless.>And live longer.Who cares if geriatrics get to cling to life for one more day, the average mean is what matters. >>And get sick less often.LOOOOOLGood laugh, mate.>The only argument you could make here is overconsumption and sedentary lifestyles have resulted in fatter and weaker people but that's not really to do with the nature of the food and more to do with how plentiful it is and how little effort it takes to acquire it.The food we have now is objectively shit and lower quality to natural alternatives due to a myriad of factors (depleted soil health, pesticides etc.) You can stop coping now.
>>16886087>Says WHO exactly?Common parlance and labeling standards.>There's no causal chain here you can pinpoint,Carbs feed bacteria that cause cavities.The longer you live, the more time that bacteria has to do damage.>I said the hunter-gatherers that were modernized ended up shorter, retard.Who qualifies under this criteria?>Glad we agree that modern medicine is useless.No, retard. By preventing critical damage you inceease the liklihood that people will survive the disease long enough to rid themselves of it.>Who cares if geriatrics get to cling to life for one more day, the average mean is what mattersNo positive what you mean by the "average mean" here. >>16886087>The food we have now is objectively shit and lower quality to natural alternatives due to a myriad of factors>depleted soil healthThat's affecting "natural" foods as well.>pesticidesNo health impact at the concentrations present.>You can stop coping now.Why would I be coping when I'm correct at every level?
>>16884618now you can combat said pathogens and survive to live longer meaningless life
>>16884611>when increased life expectancy is really decreased child mortality
>>16884611>life expectancy hasn't actually changed AT ALL for humans that make it past adulthoodisn't dying the point past adulthood?also show your work.
>>16884618>But we still die in our 70s just like our ancestorsno anon our ancestors on average died in their 40's,>>16884679wrong we aren't space faring because we can't cooperate long enough to become space faring.
>>16886353>no anon our ancestors on average died in their 40's,Depends how far back you wanna go I guess. OP's whole point, as echoed by >>16886259 is that infant mortality brought down the average lifespan more than quality of life into adulthood did.Hence why it's worth looking at the actual data here: >>16885077In 1841, a British newborn had a life expectancy of ~42.However, a 30 year old would be expected to survive to ~64.The difference represents people who died between birth and 30 years old.But a 30 year old in Britain today is expected to survive to ~82 which is a significant increase and essentially means OP's point is still bullshit.
>>16884611Why should it? You're not dying from a foreign contaminant or a genetic defect, you're dying because your body's just gotten to the point where it's given all it can give. Meanwhile, you're overlooking that actual quality of life for people living to that age is leaps and bounds above what it was 100 or even 20 years ago.
