When considering the existence of the universe, don't the laws of causality disprove the primacy of logic, that the universe is indeed - at its root -supernatural?
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>>16891999trips of truth
>>16891999No, the universe is subnatural additive nothingness at its root, it doesn't superseded nature, causality, and logic, it underpins and binds them into a unified tapestry of being— 0=1-1.
>>16892212>nothingness>subnatural additivethats alotta meanigless world salad way to say supernatural>>16892405lol yea , super nature
>>16891999>the laws of causalityThere are no laws causality because causality precedes any natural law
>>16892447>thats alotta meanigless world salad way to say supernaturalNo SUPERnatural would be like something GREATER than the sum total of natural numbers, but its not that, its the underlying structure of nature, the smallest possibly natural value that can be added to any natural quantity without affecting it, that which is LESSER than and prerequisite to any natural value, so it would be SUBnatural, by definition.
>>16891999Take your meds, you schizophrenic freak
>>16892452cause and effect>>16892871>meaningless world saladcope harder brainlet, the words are interchangable, its just semantics, by logic and alone you can infer a begining that defies casaulity so that is what i mean by supra natural, beyond nature
>>16892871I don't think he knows what supernatural means anon, you're not going to get through to him
>>16892212it doesn't supersede logic/nature because it invalidates it and everything derived from it, leaving only a paradox
>>16894879>supraBut this is the first time that has appeared, and its still not above nature, it is below nature, so its not supra natural, its infra natural, its not beyond nature, its the underlying support structure of nature.
>>16895260>its infra natural, its not beyond nature, its the underlying support structure of nature.no its not, nothingness is not "additive", youre speaking conceptually not literally, nothings is not empirical, has nothing to to do with physics, it cannot be measured, its not even mathematical, it is "beyond", transcends nature, outside and and external to our natural reality, youre just toying with semantics
>>16891999>don't the laws of causality disprove the primacy of logicNo, it's more like the laws of logic disproving the primacy of causality. You can solve the shallow logical problem by putting some Root Cause in its own separate category where it's inherently exempt from what you taken to be a fundamental law of nature, but such a thing remains essentially meaningless until you rid yourself of the intuition that causality is all that fundamental, at which point it becomes unnecessary.
>>16896038youre saying the same thing> but such a thing remains essentially meaningless until you rid yourself of the intuition that causality is all that fundamentalthats why you must forget the primacy of both, even the language im using is just a matter of semantics, but youre right its the same shit
>>16896042>youre saying the same thingNo, I'm not. You're just bad at reading comprehension and struggle to grasp what words mean, as you admit in your post.
>>16896044or perhaps you articulated something you yourself cannot grasp
>>16896059Or perhaps you're a literal imbecile and you're projecting.
>>16896068stalemate
>>16896069Maybe in your delusional fantasy world, where your failure of basic reading comprehension sparked somekinda debate. Nothing in my post suggests you need to abandon the primacy of logic. I don't insist you need to adhere to it, but causality has no bearing on this. You're probably just a fucking retard and think logical entailment is causality, hence your deep confusion.
Reality is reality. Nature is nature. What’s with all this retarded super-labelling? “When everyone’s super, no one will be” can be applied to everything.
>>16896073>Reality is reality. Nature is nature.Not if causality is an actual law of nature. In that case, reality has at least two categories of which 'natural' is only one.
>>16891999Checked
>>16892452>because causality precedes any natural lawno only space and time do that
>>16896072>semantics after semantics youre retarded brother, no word salad will save you from your mental predicament
>>16896169>mentally ill retard doesn't understand what words mean>thinks no one else does, either>accuses people "semantics" randomlyMany, many, many such cases.
>>16896230read what you wrote again
>>16896241See >>16896230
>>16896251yet you still dont understand your folly
>>16896284See >>16896230
1. The European Union is a supranational entity.2. Once i got so stoned, i realized the universe is just pure mathematics.
>>16896343but mathematics follows cause and effect, the universe doesnt>>16896301yea you didnt read it brother, its ok, youll get better one day
>>16896753See >>16896230
>mathematics follows cause and effectThe absolute, final, terminal state of /sci/ - Science & Math.
>>16896753>the universe doesntyes it does
>>16892871>No SUPERnatural would be like something GREATER than the sum total of natural numbers1 is greater than 0, sophist
