Nothing ever happens - editionprevious >>16901738
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2018673438613762183
>>16904908https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/unable-to-tame-hydrogen-leaks-nasa-delays-launch-of-artemis-ii-until-march/
>>16904906The USSR really fucked up launching Sputnik. It led to the creation of DARPA, NASA and the NRO and they've been getting schooled ever since
>>16904909lmaolotta work to burn up some astronauts on reentry with their crap heat shield
>>16904908>>16904909lollmao
>>16904909You could call the Artemis program a long march
>>16904909fucking target march, what is this shit? in march they'll say april etc.
What did she mean by this?
>>16904950The Shuttle fueling hardware they used in SLS was so reliable it produced an average of one scrub per successful launch. Then they planned to fly it with a Delta IV Heavy launch cadence that would ensure a significant chunk of NASA's geriatric workforce would retire between missions, taking what minimal operational experience they'd gleaned with them. No one has any right to be surprised at this sort of outcome.
Serious question: How is NASA going to build space stations without the Shuttle's Canadarm?
>>16904909Can this ET derived shit not leak for once?
>>16904909>We're going back to the moon!>SCRUBBED>We're going back to the moon... Next time!Btw, do you think that Starship V3 going to launch before Artemis?
>>16904967Get Northrop Grunman to build one for you at the cost of $[REDACTED]
>>16904964i dont claim any right to be surprised but i am, a little bit. but thinking back to a previous press release it was said by some here that it sounded like they were hedging a bit and here we are.i mean hell, they've only had years to get ready for this.
New Artemis PR droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8M0Scs57T0
>>16904967they cant. canadas second arm is essential to everything. forever.
>>16904909march bros, we won
>>16904980should be be T-60:00 minutes instead of all this bullshitting
>>16904982you running a pool on it or something?
Starship vs SLS, who wins
>>16904989>console wars
>>16904989>(0/11) vs. (1/1)
Cancel gateway
Cancel SLS
Cancel Starship
i cancelled your mom last night
>>16904980
>>16904909>The launch team dealt with several other glitches, including audio dropouts on ground communication loops>"How are we going to get to the moon if we can't talk between three buildings?"
>>16904964>starship has a literal blowout on a lox line during fueling>fixed in 24 hours>nasa needs a whole new window when it hasn't even entered the original
Elon was behind the SLS leaks, so that he could stack starship before Artemis 2
>>16905064he can't keep getting away with it
>Asking about how SLS can still be experiencing hydrogen leak issues three years after Artemis 1, Honeycutt says on the ground side, they are limited in how much realism they can put into testing and simulations.>"We like to test like we fly, but this interface is a very complex interface and when you're dealing with hydrogen, it's a small molecule, it's highly energetic. We like if for that reason. We do the best we can. This one caught us off-guard."
>>16905019Do you think military psyops teams help with messaging during major events like these?
does new glenn also have these issues? it scrubs a lot but I don’t remember if leaky hydrogen was the reason why
>>16905064thats insane
>>16905067>This one caught us off-guard."one hydrogen fucked them up? doesnt sound good
>>16904969With H2s, you always lose.
>>16905070nah, its not a gigantic building filled with hydrogen
What's the status of space crime? If your servers are on the moon, can you run a thinking machine that denies the Holocaust?
>>16905079Who'd be able to stop you?
>>16905080jews
I just don't see the business case for putting a couple of isolated racks for LLM's in orbitWhere's the return on investment?
>>16905084I don’t think the point is to generate real tangible cash, the point is to drive speculated value so exponentially high
>>16905080the government?
>>16905080
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018753967505940890>The main cold box was lifted into position today at the SpaceX Starbase air separation plant.
>>16905094a cold box for the ice queen
So the pol raid is still going on *hide*
>>16905087The same government that just scrubbed its first manned moon launch in 50+ years due to leaky hydrogen, that government?How?>>16905083>>16905090Just paint the moon blue, they can't do shit then
>>16905102Blue moonyou saw me standing alone, without a dream in my heart, without a love of my own. Blue moon, you knew just what I was there for.Praying for someone to care for....
>Meet the RS25 - E2047>Flights: STS-91, STS-96, STS-101, STS-98, STS-104, STS-112, STS-115, STS-118, STS-123, STS-126, STS-128, STS-131, STS-132, STS-134, STS-135, & Soon to be Artemis II.This engine here flew on Atlantis, the final space shuttle flight
>>16905098Don't worry I just thought it was funny that it was one of the reasons that an article named for the X raid. It's just very funny seeing these two things side by side>“The investigation has been expanded following other reports denouncing Grok’s operation on the X platform, which led to the dissemination of Holocaust denial content and sexually explicit deepfakes,” it said.
>>16905104and now we’re chucking it into the ocean like some dead car battery
>>16905106like every US expendable stage ever i guess
There are more rockets in the ocean than boats in space
>>16905109frfr
>>16904989It's an eternal battle
>>16905112truly
>>16905109There are more cars in space than people on the Moon.
There are more Starships in the ocean than space
>>16905119There's more space in your mom than in all the Starships in the ocean
There are more grains of ocean on the beach than all the starships in the night sky
>>16905122And bananas
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018768591370260908>A view of Massey's test site this morning. Booster 19 in the middle after some initial cryo proof testing last night. Test tank 18.3 has since been cut in half.
>>16905126its literally bananas
>>16905109Are we sure?
>>16905109There are more Starlink satellites in orbit than there are internet users in the Pitcairn Islands
>>16904962she was always a 65yo male space autist in my mind
Is AI data center LLM fatigue reaching critical levels for anyone else?
>>16905151I don't understand the issue whatsoever. So richfags want to put computing in space and they're willing to pay for it? Okay. I don't care if it's in space or on the ground, I'm not the one paying for it.
>>16905151Nah, you're just in the leftist echo chamber
>>16905151its not something that really bothers me
>>16905151no, why would it?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018789510658834558
>>16905186it'll be populated by elon clones. what an amazing place that would be
>>16905186Let me tell you how you play this stock. Wait for the Arabs to fake pump it then short HARD.
Admit it, you loved these sexy beasts.>nooo they were dangerousDo you want to live forever?
>solar power is already cheapest form of power>solar in space 4x more effective than on earthsimple decisions
Is SpaceX going to keep getting dragged into shit because of twitter now?https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018785481308438907
>>16904962ロリ巨根
>>16905116tru datthough honestly I'm surprised no billionaire has funded a mission to plant their corpse on the moon. Guaranteed fame.
>>16905232no, not anymore than they have before
>>16905202she really was a seriously sexy piece of kit. envy of the world, even when they knew how much it cost. maybe even because of that. fantastic really.
>>16905232Euro governments are already ttrying to regulate SpaceX in order for companies like Arianespace to compete.
Jared has allowed NASA phones to save screenshots. finally
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018843652634898656>The top half of the B18.3 test tank is staged on Massey Way for transport back to the production site later tonight.
>>16905253Truly, this is the kind of reform NASA needs.
truly feels like Artemis 3 just wont happen
>25 flights in 2025>10,000 starships a year>landing on mars in 2018>1 sls a year>boots on the moon in 2024>1 million satelliteswhy do we still buy into the bullshit every time?
>>16905267well if you believe anything that comes out of elon musks mouth thats your own fault. as far as NASA is concerned they just shit the bed, there really is no excuse for this nonsense with SLS and Artemis
>>16905261How in the world were we able to go to space in 1961 and land on the moon in 1969, but we just stopped all progress?
>>16905270>but we just stopped all progresslurk more nu/sfg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwMRMh_6jbw>Elon Musk's Wildest Idea Yet? 1 Million Orbital Data Centers to Power AI | Starship Update
>>16905151>DAE [extremely common thing]upvoted
>>16905270The Great Filter is lack of ambition, and bureaucracy.
what did starbase end up doing with all those cybertrucks?
>>16905277>"we need to focus on our problems here first"
are there any good reports on different countries space industries? especially annual reports.
>>16905270money. it's a boring answer but true.
>>16905258its going to be great. it looks ready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--whx4JU64
>>16905267Ah the classic "Elon is late doing the impossible thus he is a liar".
elon is a liar tho
>>16905267
>>16904909What a sick joke.
top 10 countries power rankings1. USA2. China3. Russia4. ESA5. India6. Japan7. uhh...8. hmm...9. ...10. ????????????
>>16905328india is above Russia
>>16905328ESA is a country?
>>16905328Disregarding private industry, so no kiwis, and taking all of Europe as just ESA, I like to divide it into several tiers, each one miles ahead of the next one:- The 'Big six': USA, China, Russia, ESA, India, Japan- The other big six: Ukraine (RIP), Iran, Israel, South Korea, Canada, North Korea- 3rd division?: Brazil, Argentina, Pakistan, UAE, maybe Australia- 4th tier: everyone elseThe order within each category is messier and depends if we are talking about human spaceflight capabilities, exploration beyond LEO, orbital launchers, etc.
goodnight /sfg/
>>16904909Hydrogen is a shill element, a poison apple that can only be tamed when all your engineers are 125IQ+ white men.
>>16905349see you tomorrow anon
operating
>>16905356mind if I save this image?
>>16905357anon, they're going to track you down
>>16905357US law strictly prohibits such action.You WILL be prosecuted.
why is europe obsessed with space science and hates commercial and military? why is it the opposite in america?
>>16905365Europe is many countries easier to agree on collaborating on some Saturn probe or whatnot over a business venture or mil thingy
>>16905128So have we figured out what the thing on the left is yet? Stage sep test article? Starship service structure?
>>16905369frame for a big IKEA floor lamp, ÖKENSAND
>>16905369I thought it was to squeeze test the tanks
>>16905373like an orange?
>>16904909SLS will still launch before Starship
>>16905375It's like what they did with test tank 16
>>16905373They already have something for that, though. But maybe they want to squeeze bigger tanks.
>>16905339You can just replace it with France and it's the same
>>16905365Europe doesn't hate commercial space, there is a big satellite industry there. It's one of the things Ariane was built to grantee access. The incident which triggered this was a fight over two communication satellites launched in the US. The US insisted on a non-compete clause, forbidding them from competing with Intelsat. There are military missions, but they don't have the same bloated budgets the US does. It is not part of ESA's role, and is left to member states.
>>16905356>America 250Reminds me that the Viking 1 lander was meant to touchdown on Mars on July 4th, 1976 for the Bicentennial. Due to various issues, it didn't land under July 20th. Will NASA try to do something for the Quarter Millennial if Artemis 2 gets delayed a couple more times?
>>16905400>There are military missions, but they don't have the same bloated budgets the US does. It is not part of ESA's role, and is left to member states.EU wants to federalise the military and space force is the branch I can see this actually work out fast and without any friction. mainly because no individual country can afford a full space force, other than France and Germany and the German one is too cringe to take seriouslyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0-f9RNfBqw
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/2018857146947960942?s=20Its happening
>>16905425and we weep for the environment
SPEHS>>16905356fuckingbeatme
>>16905428I assume they needed that for trench too?
We've definitely been on the moon before. Only takes 60 more years to kind of get close to it again for budget reasons. Definitely.
>>16905428no we don't
>>16905319>elon has yet to do even 1% of what he has promised and is constantly late on his naive timelinesftfy, talk about orders of magnitude eh?
>>16905411The main advantage for an EU army is to eliminate duplication. e.g. 6 different types of main battle tanks. 17 or so types of fighter aircraft. Instead of producing different equipment they could invest in systems which the armies individually lack, like ballistic missile defense. Space isn't really a big enough slice of the pie to bother about. And ultimately it will come to the usual conflict, in that most European armies are defensive plus some deployments with NATO support. They don't require a huge global network. Whereas France, with it's overseas departments, will demand it. Also there is already some collaboration on military space projects, adding EU bureaucracy to that may make things worse.>no individual country can afford a full space forceThere's no such thing. What an EU army would require in space will be different to the US. The US spends far more than it needs to, a lot of US defense spending is about jobs, in muh district. Most European countries spend too little, but you can go to far and just burn money. An EU army is often talked about but pretty far away. When crisis strikes the EU leadership is paralytic, because they have wait to see what the leaders of member states say first. There is no common foreign policy either. EU presidents are not powerful, they are usually failed national politicians. It's far more likely to have joint regiments and procurement programs.
>>16905365ugh... EVROPA...
>>16905162SpaceX and the investors they find will be the ones who pay for it. Investment will either come in the form of debt or equity in the combined company. It isn't free money.How it goes depends on the business plan. If they plan to use all the capacity internally, for xAI, then they will have to find a way of returning a profit on that. Which hasn't been done yet. If they rent out capacity, then they will depend upon the market continuing to thrive. If the bubble does burst, a lot of these companies could go bankrupt.
>>16905483i think they are hoping the AI will run optimus bots, with employers replacing their workers with optimus
Sad news today. Paul Bate of the UK Space Agency stepped down.
>>16905489uksa got shut down anyway. it was a fucked organization, missing all of their shots.
>>16905490It hasn't been shutdown, it just moved into another government department. It's not a real space agency though, it's a glorified funding council.
>>16905328India and japan are above esa
>>16905495Where is their JWST? But yeah, JAXA is still up there with the top two (NASA, ESA).
>>16905496Wheres europes manned spaceflight program?Europe didn't even make jwst, they just put it up there.
>>16905499They marvel at european brilliance. >manned spaceflightThat's easy. That's why China, Russia and India can do it. It's just expensive and has little scientific value.
>>16905499>Europe didn't even make jwst, they just put it up there.Europe made two of the instruments, NIRSpec and the MIRI optical bench. It is the NASA, ESA, CSA JWST.>Wheres europes manned spaceflight program?Columbus is attached to the ISS now. They also built many of the sections on the US side, as part of their contribution. And Orion's ESM. Independent manned launch is not the pinnacle of spaceflight.Where is India's or JAXA's JUICE? Or Planck? Or Gaia? Nowhere. JAXA is still recovering from mission failure after mission failure. They keep descoping their ambitions.
>>16905502lmao coping eurotardDon't talk smack until you don't have to run to the americans to put people in space.And no, running to china or russia doesn't count either.
>>16904909It's almost like HydroLox is terrible for first stages and Shittle Deprived was always a retarded plan.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018959222575423774>Peter’s assessment is inaccurate. As my posts show, I have never wavered in believing that we should make life multiplanetary.>Now, more than ever.
>>16905451>What an EU army would require in space will be different to the US.Is it? Even if we were to ignore the French totally-not-colonies in the Pacific and South America, we need to cover North Sea, Atlantic, North Africa and Russiathat's already like 1/3 of planet>The US spends far more than it needs to, a lot of US defense spending is about jobs, in muh district. I fail to see how that's any different to EU any multi-national projects.Even the smallest country will throw a hissy fit and buy American if they don't get to subcontract at least one door handle and the co-pilot's cup holder>>16905502.copewe shouldn't need to argue we are better than China, Russia and IndiaIt should be unquestionably self-evidentthis is why nobody has any pride anymore
>>16905514>Is it? Even if we were to ignore the French totally-not-colonies in the Pacific and South America, we need to cover North Sea, Atlantic, North Africa and Russia that's already like 1/3 of planetYou don't need geostationary satellites covering the whole world then. That's already a saving.>I fail to see how that's any different to EU any multi-national projects.My point was that you shouldn't judge capacity by assuming the US has the exact needed capacity, and the EU would match that.
>>16905512mars bros we are SO back
The EU would be much less gay if it was called Rome. "European union" sounds like low energy bureaucracy. I would care about ESA if it was called the Roman Space Agency
>>16905540A Roman empire successor? An empire run by Germany? A fifth Reich?
>>16905547Holy Roman Empire
>>16905451I learned about this last year. In the eyes of the DoD, only the US and China have early warning satellites with lookdown capability, Russia's EKS apparently does not have it lol. Ofc the EU can make the required MgCdTe sensors. They just need to get their act together.
>>16905555We'll reboot Rome in 2030 and call it Rome MMXXX
>>16905512More of this please, fuck thiel I hate the antichrist
>Elon Musk has Big Plans for Data Centers in Space. Experts are Skeptical.
>>16905575>expertsmore like everyone
>>16905575>>16905577What’s your reaction going to be when we are 15 years down the road and Musk was yet again right and proved everybody wrong
>>16905580hopefully still not waiting for mars
>>16905580>15 more years saars
>>16905512>two jewish homosexual butt buddies pretending to bicker
>>16905584Call me old fashioned but I think AI should speak formally like Lt. Commander Data, not like quirk chungus manifest
>>16905584Say that again pls.formatting:>write the response as {{ ga_number_of_bullet_points }} short bullet points. no nesting.>maximize conciseness. one crucial idea per bullet.>use simple, information-dense sentences. no purple prose.>{%- if enable_citation %}
>What’s your reaction going to be when we are 15 years down the road and Musk was right and we have mars bases and shit>posted from my Iphone 3G in 2009
>>16905589
>>16905580>What’s your reaction going to be when we are 15 years down the road and Musk was yet againIt's been 12 years since he floated hyperhoop.
>>16905597>nuke earthers firstit's a warm feeling recognizing my posts reflected in this.
>>16905328New Zealand is above Russia (yeah, yeah, they are incorporated in the US, but they are kiwi at heart)And you may not like it, but Iran, Israel, and both Koreas should be on the list.
Kek bitch is flat
>>16905617Jupiter is male anon
berger dropping a scathing article about SLShttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/nasa-finally-acknowledges-the-elephant-in-the-room-with-the-sls-rocket/
>>16905540true
we may have detected a black hole that explodedhttps://www.umass.edu/news/article/did-we-just-see-black-hole-explode-physicists-umass-amherst-think-so-and-it-couldhttps://journals.aps.org/prl/accepted/10.1103/r793-p7ct>Schwarzschild black holeoh nvm its nothing since those are toy models that dont exist in reality
>>16905637Scott Manley@DJSnMI see people asking why SLS is launching once every 3 years while the more complex shuttle that it was based on flew more often.SLS Is still in development, that upper stage is an interim stage that needs replaced.The funding may be a huge part of NASA’s budget, but it’s a lot less than the kind of money needed to fund development and flight operations when the contractors don’t have much incentive to go fast, in fact I expect some contractors make more by dragging out development.
@guardian "Elon Musk is taking SpaceX’s minority shareholders for a rideMerger with loss-making xAI looks to some investors more like a bailout than a rocket trip to the future"Mainstream media catching up to where intelligent observers were a decade ago.
>>16905645just like black holes
>>16905655>guardianwaa waa waa, boo hoo
>>16905617>jupiter is flat>uhh but earth is definitely a ball guysthey really expect us to believe this? either they’re all round or none of them are. make up your mind
>>16905655how that nigger can pretend to still care about spaceflight when he's burning SpaceX's good will, government contracts and value for xitter and grok is beyond me
>>16905655Well it's obvious that he's using spacex to fund AI shit and transfer twitter debts.
Can you even put H200 GPUs in space without significant compromises? My impression is that chips for datacenter or really any terrestrial tasking tend to be thinner and more vulnerable to radiation than any hardened space chip. Like you can't just take a Starlink and jam in H200 without something else giving way.
>>16905151Of course, I want to buy more computer parts this decade, these faggots aren't making money generating AI wordsoup so it's hopefully not too long before their house of cards comes crashing down
>>16905428>Sand and siltNobody cries about that shit except for people who want more money for their holdout properties.
>>16905691Elon isn't putting H200s in space
>>16905704That's cool and all but when am I getting the HW4/5 retrofit for my 2022 Model X?
>>16905711you are getting FSD 14 Lite
https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp/status/2019102570720211211Dwarkesh does podcasts specifically about AI, so this is probably going to be about the merger mostly (and I guess the usual stuff about SpaceX, I guess there could be some tidbits here, Dwarkesh lets people speak)the other dude is the co-founder of Stripe, a fintech company (payments mostly)
https://x.com/collision/status/2019102517171519698
>>16905718>Dwarkesh does podcasts specifically about AIhe's the guy that got BTFO by an actual expert on AI kekalso>transformers shirtcringe af
>>16905720Do you think his hairstyle is part of what character he's portraying? At one point he had that laid back long mop, now it's like a military crew cut
>>16905727Hegseth said it looked good on himalso more MIC contracts for SpaceX
>>16905727https://x.com/beffjezos/status/2018967283805421859maybe he is just trying to have a bit cleaner look, trying to look presentable to the bankers and so onafter the IPO or a reverse merger with Tesla he can mostly ignore them again
>Exclusive: Majority of Trump voters back solar power, Axios poll findsThe groundworks have been laid for massive solar buildout in the US
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/2019111243173491117
>>16905736[Big News]Workers are walking and driving
>>16905736>newly acquired landmanifest destiny
>>16905067They only ever do simulations? Why have they not tested the valves on test benches? That nigga and that other person are going to die for sure before they even reach the moon.
>>16905739SLS is the poster child for complex CFD sims beats newspace's move fast and break things, yet here we are...
>>16905739>That nigga and that other person are going to die for sure before they even reach the moon.of old age maybe
>>16905238That could cause contamination of the surface and jeopardize scientific study.
>>16905742Good, once the "damage" is done then everybody can quit pussyfooting around there.
I really wish the mods would just set these threads to auto-sage on creation so we wouldnt have to deal with thes absolute nigger-brained /pol/ posters.
>>16905186How is anyone still eating up shit from the one guy that wanted to go to pedo party island and was denied?
>>16905736Starbase:>feed me Texas
https://x.com/collision/status/2019102517171519698>It will be 10X cheaper to get power from space than on earth>in 30-36 months (~3 years) time frame>eventually, they'll launch more AI data centers in space per year than entire AI data centers there are on earth combined>mini fab for chips first then big fabs
>>16905711We need hardware hackers to retrofit older Teslas with newer HW4 first. Maybe replace the cameras as well if needed.
>>16905752How do you do fellow anon.
>>16905762okay so disregarding Elon Scam Magnitudes(ESM) we get>It will be ~1X cheaper to get power from space than on earth>in ~30 years time frame>eventually, they'll launch a hundredfold less AI data centers in space per year than entire AI data centers there are on earth combined>mini fab for chips first then bankruptcy
>>16905762By 2060 every square inch of the Earth's surface will be AI data centers, yielding unparalleled returns for the investors.
>>16905768The Good End.
https://x.com/mymatrixplug/status/2019114538776330502>New boundary wall for Pad 1 expansion going in.
>>16905768But will it be enough for AGI?
>>16905777why did he add the word peaceful
>>16905752I tried to make the OP inconspicuous but I guess it didn't help
total beetle death
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/2019139559330836506
>>16905785Orbital databases endanger the habitat of space-plovers.
>>16905603>It's been 12 years since he floated hyperhoop.I know this is bait, but he doesn't have a fiduciary requirement to make hyperloop like he does to ignore Mars and make Ai servers.
>>16905785isn't it easier to just put the datacenters in the ocean?
>>16905691Radiation hardening is a meme to sell expensive one off chips.
>>16905791no? what would be the point of that?cooling (on earth) is not a big problem, the water usage is a memexAIs big monolithic data center uses as much water as 2.5 burger jointsits not a problem whatsoever
>>16905791Microsaar tried that. It was useful for cooling and they found that there was a much lower failure rate overall of equipment, but it wasn't worth the cost.Funny I guess space servers will end up having the exact opposite problem
>>16905793It's a meme until it gets fried.
>>16905797I can't imagine sending tonnes of hardware to space is cheaper
>>16905798>>16905799>t. BAE, Honeywell, any other MIC scammers
>>16905800Didn't mean to reply to >>16905799
Site's closed
>>16905805Same vibes
>>16905799I doubt it's cheaper and the biggest problem is that there's no company capable of sending that much shit to space.
Tank farm is active
>>16905799Higher upfront cost, lower operating cost.
new push by congress to kill off SLS>The amendment concerns acquisition powers bestowed upon NASA by Congress, stating in part: “The Administrator may, subject to appropriations, procure from United States commercial providers operational services to carry cargo and crew safely, reliably, and affordably to and from deep space destinations, including the Moon and Mars.”>That language is fairly general in nature, but the intent seems clear. NASA’s initial missions to the Moon, through Artemis V, have a clearly defined architecture: They must use the Space Launch System rocket, Orion spacecraft, and a lander built by either SpaceX or Blue Origin to complete lunar landings.>But after that? With this amendment, Congress appears to be opening the aperture to commercial companies. That is to say, if SpaceX wanted to bid an end-to-end Starship lunar mission, it could; or if Blue Origin wanted to launch Orion on New Glenn, that is also an option. The language is generalized enough, not specifying “launch” but rather “transportation,” that in-space companies such as Impulse Space could also get creative. Essentially, Congress is telling the US industry that if it is ready to step up, NASA should allow it to bid on lunar cargo and crew missions.https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/us-house-takes-first-step-toward-creating-commercial-deep-space-program/
>>16905428
>>16905817What is staging pad
>>16905785K2 or bust
>>16905820i just figure is the place the vehicle sits while not on the launch tower
>>16905812>lower operating cost.explain how maitnaining orbital infrastructure is cheaper than havinbg an intern walk into a server room on earth and swap out an old gpu?
>>16905704Anyone got any public data on these chips used in space?
>>16905817>>16905823so potentially 40 Starships staged while waiting for launch
>>16905832He has repeatedly said its a must to run the radiator loops at the highest possible temperature for efficiency.They plan to do this by running the silicon itself at high temps. This sounds crazy because we all know this makes chips unstable and reduces their lifetimes, in a place where servicing is impossible. But, if you can run those fuckers at like 120C, or better yet 150C or more, you can radiate much more heat away to space with smaller radiators. This will be the balancing act here, radiator size and coolant temperature. If SpaceX-Ai decides to take silicon in-house with custom fabs, one of the main goals will be high temp operations. Not sure if anything currently available is an off the shelf solution. Im aware of gallium arsenide and others running hotter than silicon but they cannot be made into fine pitch chips with hundreds of billions of transistors, they are more for power handling components. Innovation will happen, it has to
>>16905815total SLS death
>>16905834>If SpaceX-Ai decides to take silicon in-house with custom fabsWhat? Are they trying to buy a portion of Global Foundries or something?
>>16905834I think Musk said something like 85C, not 120Cbut 85C would still be more than the 40C or whatever that watercooled NVIDIA chips run at in the datacenters (so lower than retail gpus I guess, probably due to running 24/7)
>>16905836Musk has talked about doing his own fab inside tesla >>16905762>>16905720
>>16905834How is he able to make breakthroughs others deem impossible time and time again? Landing rockets. Putting a chip in people's head. Now this. NASA says it's just not possible.
>>16905838I am to expect Tesla is going to run up an ecosystem on par with TSMC in a few years?
>>16905840just a small fab to start learning
>>16905841So practically speaking, it'll likely just be dropped in a few years. We're talking about trying to play catch up to an industry running at the razors edge that changes over what's top of the line (which is what you need for AI) every few years.
>>16905837The radiator efficiency equations will NEVER change, so the long-term goal would be to push the chip operating temperature up as high as possible. 85C seems doable immediately, using 3rd party silicon for first generation deployments. But farther out it will be worth changing the formulation of the silicon itself to be super high temperature optimized. Who knows what limits are possible, but every degree they can push it directly translates to mass savings at launch time.It is definitely worth doing, if AI in space is a thing, then this tech is required too
>>16905842he thinks its necessary to keep scaling robotaxis and Optimi
>>16905843Well first they have to figure out how to stop ionizing radiation from fucking over something that densely packed transistor-wise.
>>16905843yeah surewill also drive more efficient radiators in general which might help with nuclear propulsion
>>16905844>robotaxis and OptimiIt's over.
>>16905845noise doesn't matter for neural networks + deterministic portions just need triplicate redundancy t: musk
>>16905849the same family of chips will be used for the AI datacenter satellites
>>16905849How?
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2019183785024098670>The SpaceX Starbase launch complex has been expanded today with new boundaries and silt fencing installed around the new perimeter. All of the details of the expansion can be read at the site linked below. Click on "public notice" and "project plans":
>>16905848Sadly the Stefan–Boltzmann law will not change.It simply takes a higher temperature to radiate away kilowatts of waste heat. Thermodynamics sucks.Maybe some kind of heat pump fuckery can run the radiators extra hot while keeping the chips cool.
>>16905853The beetle holocaust begins
>>16905856nasa has theorized and even tested some thingslike misting where the droplets get collected and re-circulated (so you have a lot more surface area) and other things
wont anyone think of all the seals?
>1 million satellites>GPU failure at datacenters averages a failure for every 6-8 hours per 10,000 GPUs at the low end>averages around 100 failures total every 6-8 hours or 300 failures a day at a low endI am going to assume that the GPU satellite is like a Starlink V3 at 1900 kg for 54 satellites per Starship launch due to the supposed bulk you'll need to cool and shield these things. Each satellite carrying only 1 GPU. Who knows what these would be like the end but as a baseline, it's 6 Starship launches daily just to keep the million satellite strong constellation going. This number decreases depending on weight or number of satellites per satellite.
>>16905866number of GPUs per satellite*
>>16905856>Maybe some kind of heat pump fuckery can run the radiators extra hot while keeping the chips cool.No shitIDK why this idea persists that cooling in space must be completely passive with either simple fluid loops or straight up conduction.For fucks sake there is a literal cryocooler on the JWST, refrigeration systems are quite literally everywhere but the moment they leave the atmosphere it's completely impractical to commercialize
that bitch is frosty
how come Elon couldn't get his biggest rocket and the robotaxis working, and his cars are shit (both in terms of self-driving tech and general tech), yet everything he touches is overvalued?
>>16905871Elon's companies get their value because the tech is actually out there.Tesla actually commercialized EVs in the biggest scale they have ever seen. FSD has been available for awhile in it's various forms for anyone to buy. Falcon 9 is the highest cadence rocket with Starship being an enormous risk to better even F9's cadence and capabilities.If you think a handful of cars with allegedly better FSD is better than millions of cars with Tesla's FSD, that's fine, you can hold that opinion. Same with rockets with most launching only a few times a year. If you think those rockets are better that's also fine. No one who wants to invest has to listen to you.
>>16905873meanwhile my Tesla 3 cannot display album cover art without bugging the fuck outit's funny how simple things can still be challenging, or ignored, by massive orgs
>>16905864frozen seals caused the challenger accident. screw the seals
>>16905879mormons caused the challenger disaster.
>>16905876IDK if there is an infotainment system that isn't donkey shit in some wayI have a feeling there is a good reason almost every vehicle has android auto/carplay as standard and doesn't bother to gatekeep it
>>16905840>on par withSuperior to, within a decade
>>16905839By trying
>>16905868Yeah, and Tesla's heat pump engineers are wizards
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2019199799766229355https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
>>16905879
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2019201318556967048
I don't want /sfg/ to be infested with biz people daytrading on F9 starlink mission outcomes goddamn it
>>16905893Don't do much with stocks, but would unironically spend money on a SpaceX IPO
>nothing ever happens>Space flightIf a ICBM is launched from Asia to the United States, is it possible to create solutions for interception with a multiple kill vehicle. The warheads are spread out like a blunderbuss shot at midcourse phase for reference.Is interception like 5 minutes ahead of possible spread in space as a warhead is best described stuck in a tunnel for viable targeting of mainland U.S. targets while an interceptor vehicle can spread out as far as needed.>inb4 lulzy strategic-stability world like 1945-49.
>>16905893$SEX here we go
Is NASA really using the STS designation with Artemis or are some anons making a joke because it uses engines from the Shuttle?
orange rocket bad
> Finally, on the next attempt, and seventh overall try at fully fueling and nursing this vehicle through a countdown, the Space Launch System rocket actually took off. After doing so, it flew splendidly.
Does Orion’s LES even do anything when you have two giant extended and unstoppable megasolid fuckyou rockets strapped right underneath you?Everyone cried about how the Ares-I would be a death trap even if you managed to pull away. How the hell is Space Launch System any safer?
>vulcan still rarely launches>new glenn still rarely launchesstop picking on sls
>>16905915Are Vulcan or New Glenn mandated by congress to fly?
>>16905785Orbital data centers could be harmful to the endangered Void Kraken. Not plural, there's only one of them.
>>16905915New glenn kind of gets a pass because they are at least actively un-fucking 20 years of stagnation and regression. Two successful launches, I do think Limp is seriously trying to pivot them in the right direction, and they’re driving the stake into ULA’s coffin behind the and dabbing on them while they do it.I think killing new shep was the final thing they need to do to gear up and get serious here.Meanwhile SLS and Vulcan deserve the hate, fuck the lot of them
>>16905637Every launch is an adventure
>>16905927BESPOKE
>>16905913They'd be fine, trust in the tower
Falcon 9: boring, routineSLS: personalized adventure every time
I can't take itI need starship to work
>>16905931its a LEO truck like shuttle
>>16905936I hate LEOno one likes LEO
>>16905937what's wrong with Low Enceladus Orbit?
>>16905945to close to earthers
>>16905945Because Enceladus is a frozen shithole
you know the universe is a little bit like the human hand
>>16905948It just works but the brain can't fathom how?
>>16905838Custom competitive fabs are going to happen even less than space based data centres. Sorry Elon but even if you manage to get ASML to sell you a machine you ain't ever gonna be a real man.
please don’t interpret this the wrong way, but I was wondering if after 40 years we have photos of the crew compartment pieces that were recovered from challenger?
>get told to watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_PrgsoMbQ>they say its really good>turn it on>video is whatever>wonder why its so popular>half way through she lays all NASA's woes on spacex and blue origin>says they're stealing all of NASA's money>further says the companies are monopolies that are destroying the environmentah, i see now why its so popular
Artemis will NEVER lunch
>>16905958Where's the lie?
No plans for 3rd tower at boca?
>>16905968Mr president,
>still frostyis the valve stuck?
>>16905840Not the same eco system. Tesla buys 10s of millions of chips for themselves. xAI and now SpaceX wants tens of millions of chips as well. TSMC serves third party. Tesla will serve themselves and SpaceX and they will become their own customers. This will reduce risk due to geopolitical concerns or supply chain issues for future expansion
>>16905971Fuck it's going to burst isn't it
>>16905971giveung you my good energy
>>16905964afternoon tea?
what happens to all the naysayers when they finally get starship working? just more goalpost moving?
>>16905895>>16905897If you don't have couple hundred thousand to spend you won't get shit from the public IPO. It will be overmarked so goddamn hard.
>>16905958Also>muh humans are pointless and a waste of money when we have robotsShe complains about the Artemis program being a one off and not creating space infrastructure, but that's literally what happened with commercial cargo then crew programs. Then it's some how a bad thing that SpaceX will have their logo on their lunar lander because none of the companies during Apollo did it, since they "cared about the country more than their company".The only redeeming part about her video is she does complain about how expensive SLS is and how its a massive jobs program
>>16905720He looks so old bros...
>>16905983As it stands, the ones currently claiming that starship will work soon™ and be ready in time for Artemis 3 are THE biggest goalpost movers.First starships to mars with working optimus robots in 2026!
>>16905948Constantly taking a wank?
>>16905929Is this not a pendulum rocket
>>16905993How dare you
>>16905968not right now but if SpaceX had a plan like that, they would probably keep it under wraps to not give ammo to the local enviromental groups and just drop it in a request for more land or something
>>16905915>falcon heavy still rarely launches>ariane 6 still rarely launchesits over for heavy lift vehicles
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2019264360682778716
It just doesn't feel right
>>16906039>once the truth gets outthings that will never happen for 400
>>16906037The weight of the paint will max out the payload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-N1GvbQofc>SpaceX Road to IPO, with Jack Kuhr (Research Director of Payload Pro)talking about SpaceX business things>We discuss:>• How Starlink has overtaken launch as SpaceX’s primary growth engine>• Why Starlink’s constraints are more likely terminals, regulation, and physics—not satellites>• How international markets are powering the next phase of Starlink’s expansion>• Why aviation and maritime are the most underappreciated Starlink verticals>• Whether Starlink “Lite” can meaningfully take share from traditional ISPs>• How Starship and Starlink V3 could upend Falcon 9 economics>• Why the SpaceX–xAI merger points to a fully integrated space, connectivity, and AI stack
>>16906044Why do these guys always act like starlink is the most important thing going on in the world. its just the another internet provider
>>16906059I wonder why a revenue model about SpaceX would bring up starlink?are you retarded?
they dont want us colonizing space because it would be easy for randoms to stealthily create hypervelocity impactors that could bomb the earth
>>16906074These actually are a big pain in the ass. Look up the energetic requirements and you'll see how difficult it would be to do so without being seen. While you're still very gradually speeding up your hypervelocity hyperimpactor, this USSF will send a destroyer to blow you into dust
>>16906059It's a bit more important than regular internet provider, even when ignoring military shit.
>>16906074You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA&t=1136s
>>16905785Has Musk already tweeted about keeping up with the Kardashevians. He will at some point.
>>16905727He's just losing his hair (again)
>>16905968I thought they were meant to be shifting launches to florida eventually?
