Update on climate change? Are we succeeding or are we losing? Where can I find up to date statistics?
we are losing https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
>>16905995Just remember that everything you experience is merely anecdotal.
>>16905997>farenheitkys dude
>>16906001why
>>16905995>co2 levels still going upjews are still winning, yes. soon you won’t be able to breathe the atmosphere without schlomo oxygen masks and oxygen generators for home use.
>>16905995I don't get you psychos. Even if you don't believe man-made climate change, do you really want the smog-filled air of Asia? Literally hell on Earth. Japan is literally the only Asian country with consistently clean air.
>>16906084Asia is not real
>>16906327You actually could make an argument that Asia and Europe are actually one continent, but the dude is right.Do you see how much smog is in India, China, or Pakistan? No one wants their city looking like that and every child having asthma.
>>16905995Watermelon communism isn't science. >>>/pol/
>>16906084Retards like you conflating real environmental concerns with your watermelon communist climate alarmism are what removed any actual environmental issue from the public discourse. Instead of addressing any of it, retards like you want to raise taxes and reduce individual rights, neither of which will do anything to make anything better.You climate alarmist doomsday cultists are fucking retarded and none of your predictions have EVER been right.
>>16906335>Do you see how much smog is in India, China, or Pakistan?And that's another thing, the climatetards never condemn these countries for polluting. All they do is demand White countries gimp their power industries and raise taxes and increase dependence on foreign (usually communist) powers.
>>16906622motherFUCK alarmists
Were not doing to great>10% decline in snowpack across western united states and central europe PER DECADE since 1980s
Models are proving to be very accurate
Scientist have been debating how cl9se we are to having the AMOC shut down which would cause utter chaos in the climate of northern europe
Earths energy imbalance is currently around 2 w/m^2
The last 3 years have been the warmest years on record
Ways to stay informed on climate science>youtubePaul Beckwith (GOATED)https://youtube.com/@paulhbeckwithWeather west (more weather focused and he talks mainly about the west coast amd California but also very informative on the climate)https://youtube.com/@weatherwestAlaska sea grant (focused on the Bering staright, not climate change, but the Arctic is warming 2-6 times faster than the global average so they are seeing real time consequences of climate change. The strait science lecture series is incredible)https://youtube.com/@alaskaseagrantPotholer54 (long term climate journalist):https://youtube.com/@potholer54Theirs a handful of British climate scientists turned influencers >Simon Clark>climateadam>DrgilbzIm to lazy to link them>online resourceshttps://phys.org/earth-news/(Communicating recently published articles to the public in earth science)https://yaleclimateconnections.org/Climate newshttps://grist.org/Broad reporting on environmental newshttps://www.carbonbrief.org/Climate reporting
>>16908571This is the saddest part for me, i remember first snow being in mid november and it lasting until february, even as late as 2010. Last year we had like a week of snow in total, this year was a bit better but not much.
For visual learners
>>16909724were these pictures taken at the same day on each year?
>>16909734no? they were taken more than a century apart. are you blind?
Mmmm I don't believe in CAGW. Not like I used to.
>>16905999>being stuck under rain for 2 months, haven't seen the sun or blue sky in weeks with 100+ flood alerts in the country is anecdotalwell that's fixed everything right up hasn't it
>>16909801don't be naive, other than time passing winter and summer also passes in cycles, his question is not out of place
Worst case scenario warming leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MioceneWarming atmosphere and more co2 will increase rainfall and vegetation levels in arid regions, less deserts. Its always gradual change.
>>16909933Yeah but i like long snowy winters and not devil's armpit global version
>>16905995The MIGAtards that were talking about how Greenland would be a good foothold in the arctic as it thaws out are still saying that it isn't happening
>>16910021why is there TDS spam in every thread on all boards?
>>16905995Chinese and India are actively working to turn the world into a desert. Meanwhile the USA and Europe are working on spreading niggers throughout the world in order to end whatever else might survive.
>>16910025>why is there TDS spam in every thread on all boards?
>>16910028udder perfection
According to scientists experts and journalists, the world will be flooded and 130F before year 2015 unless we donate another 30 billion to Chyna lol.
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>>16909734Little bro doesn't know how glaciers work
>>16909933>worse case scenario we go to a climate where there was palm trees in AntarcticaThis is so stupid on so many levels.First of all, arid regions are not going to all get wetter. A warmer atmosphere can hold more water, increasing the atmospheric demand for water (VPD) and increasing the dew point so it takes more atmospheric water for it to rain. This will lead to a situation people have called the wet get wetter and the dry get drier. What happens to a particular climate under global warming is highly geographically dependent but many arid and semi arid areas in the world like the southwestern United States and the MENA region are going to get more arid.Second of all take the internountain west region from Oregon to Utah. This winter is exactly what models have predicted the weather of this region will trend to under global warming. In October salt lake city got record amounts of rain, with most coming in a single day. Since then there has been almost no precipitation. Almost all weather stations in Utah are reporting either the LOWEST or SECOND LOWEST snowpack ever recorded.This is exactly what climate scientists have projected for the region. There isnt much evidence the amount of precipitation will change will change but its expected that there will be MORE INTENSE, LESS FREQUENT precipitation events with more falling as rain than snow.This has really negative effects on the ecology of the region and the water infrastructure because they both depend on building a water supply as snow amd having that melt slowly into the summer when its needed. Not falling all at once as rain in October.Picrel is the snowpack across the western US. its not looking to good right now
>>16910041>>16910048Your retarded Maxxing is coming along superbly anons! Great progress keep up the good work im proud of you
>>16906622Please explain to me how to fix air quality and industrial dumping without reducing individual rights to pollute.I'll wait.
>>16908572Of course not one climate retard replies to this. They will ignore this and then in a different thread say shit like "Umm the models have to constantly be changed because they are so wrong".
>>16910302Not my problem. You had an alloted social capital budget to fix some environmental problems and you wasted it on nothing. You cant go back.
https://actuaries.org.uk/media/isvotyer/parasol-lost.pdfPeople who do risk assessments for a living are not very optimistic.
>>16910517>>16910517 #>wasted it on nothingLmao, In the united states the clean air and clean water act are the two most important policies thay have made our environment cleaner, less toxic given us huge monetary value in environmental services. Rivers were literally catching on fire before we passed them. Now unfortunately they are currently under attack and being rolled back.Environmental regulations work surprisingly well and the people they hurt (the corporate overlords) spend billions of dollars to try and roll them back.Anon is acting Ike a good little cucked consumer fighting for your corporate daddies. Good boy!
>>16910302>individual rightsGo after the corpos first. Just do it seriously. No more paying fines when it's cheaper than fixing the problem. Hang the polluting fuckers.
Data says you should stop the thinking about ever retiring.
>>16905995Geoengineering (atmospheric injection) will fix it.>no sulphate baloon?
>>16911218It might temporarily replace one problem with another. With the sword of Damocles called termination shock hanging over our heads.
>>16911216James Hansen cant stop winning (unfortunately). My man has been saying this
>>16911500I mean we will see when El Nino comes about.
>>16905995The problem is that retards hear climate change and then go looks fine to me, as they are basing things off their immediate surroundings.The thing is though thats not what it means at all. Its a trend that the surface temperature is rising year on year, by a small amount. This means nothing in your immediate vicinity, but it does have detrimental effects to specific systems, which will cause further effects to other systems, and by the time it affects the individuals immediate vicinity, it will be far too late. Arguably we are running out of time to course correct as is.
Average "person" cannot think in time frames longer than few weeks.We had (still have really), pretty strong winter season where I live in central Europe. I'm not that old but the last time we had such winter was a decade ago or loner.But I already heard some retards talking "hurr durr where is your global warming now"?You dumb fucking nigger how about the last year when we had snow for one day and it all melted overnight?
>>16906055>>co2 levels still going up >soon you won’t be able to breathe the atmosphereGet a CO2 sensor for your house you'll regularly see it hit 700 to 1000 in a room
>>16911554It's odd how small of a decline caused the little ice age
>>16911633now plot the development and installation of new monitoring devices>inb4 they controlled for thatprove it, otherwise you have nothing but faith that they can accurately measure the "global average" temperature not only now but centuries or millennia in the past.
>>16905997The rate of warming is three times as fastIt sounds like we are winning impressively
>>16911638https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-paleontological-society-papers/article/abs/use-of-mgca-as-a-seawater-temperature-proxy/0C470AB1EFC03751F2A7B25B22E7919D
SPOCK CAN'T BE WRONGhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7tAYXQPWdC0
>>16911638For past climate reconstructions before modern instrumentation the use a variety of proxies >Ice coresIce cores from places like EPICA Dome C build up in yearly layers of snow that compress into ice. The ratio of heavy to light oxygen isotopes changes with temperature, and trapped air bubbles preserve ancient CO2 and methane.>Fossil pollenFossil pollen in lake sediments reflects climate because different plants prefer different temperature ranges. For example, pollen from Dryas octopetala (picrel) is linked to cold conditions, which is why the Younger Dryas is named after it.>Tree ringsTree rings record growing season conditions, with ring width and density reflecting temperature and moisture.>Marine sedimentsMarine sediments preserve microfossils and isotopic signals tied to ocean temperature.>Coral growth bandsThese vary with sea surface temperature and chemistry.Taken all together these proxies can be used to have an accurate reconstruction of the earths climate before modern technology. Importantly, they are all used to cross validate each other so scientists don't rely on one method they rely on many methods that all have shown high agreement
>>16911507wood burning diagram for reference.
>>16911638Here is the historical distribution of weather stations from 1800 to the presenthttps://www.ncei.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/daily/figures/If you are interested on how scientist reconstruct the global average temperatures for the modern era you can checkout this paper:https://doi.org/10.1029/2019JD032361
Don't worry, the Trump admin has declared it's not real, therefore it's not real! CO2 is also now officially plant food, so emissions of CO2 are now GOOD, burn baby burn! Don't think about it any further goyim.
>>16911993that is not poison! It is FREEDOM distilled in to air.THAT IS NOT ZYKLON B IT IS ONLY PESTICIDE.
>>16908572The fake climate data fit the fake climate predictions very well!
>>16911993God, I remember when all the coastal cities flooded by 2020 just like the founder of climate science said they would!
Whatever happened with this prediction by the father of climate science? Did that shit ever happen, or did it turn out to be just another fucking lie?
The latest cope from the Cow-Farts-Doomsday CULT is that earth getting warmer will make it get colder.There's no reasoning with these retards. They cannot be salvaged.
Thermometers are RACIST. The raw data have to be adjusted or global warming doesn't show up!
Once all the raw data are tampered with, global warming becomes plain as day.It's a good thing all those people who make their money off this bullshit scam are in charge of tampering with the raw measurements!
WHY WON'T THE FUCKING ARCTIC ICE COOPERATE WITH THE PREDICTIONS OF OUR DOOMSDAY CULT?!!! WE TOLD EVERYONE IT WOULD BE ALL GONE FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS AGO?!!!!!
>>16912443>>16912451Thats cute little bro found Tony Hellers blog. Unfortunately the data he uses is complete dogshit and Unfortunately for him all the data is publicly available so anyone can check his work.>((THEY)) MAKE UP FAKE DATAWhat this is referring to is a process called airtime homogenization to help with the fact that when you are reconstructing a data set over 100s of years with multiplicity of collection methods and standardize it into a single comparable data set.The funniest thing about this claim though is this method actually REDUCES Observed warming and you can check this with NOAA raw and adjusted data set. Unfortunately (and conveniently) the data set Tony Hellers used is not publicly available. Picrel is from analysis of observed vs adjusted temp change from the publicly available data set
>>16912447Oh no no no your too stupid. Read the thread before replying this thread has literally proved that Hansen is a climate prophet hahahahahahaSee>>16911216And>>16911500Because you probably dont know what this means let me explain James Hansen (the one referenced in the article) has been saying and publishing papers for years talking about global warming intensification is more extreme than we exected and how models have ALL BEEN underestimating it. He has been saying thay we are going to reach 2 degree C much faster than models predicted (under business as usual emissions, RCP 4.5) which models have said that should happen between 2050 -2100. Hansen was alone in his analysis among climate scientist for many years with many scientist thinking his model ran too hot and was implausible. But the study just published by foster a and ramstorf >>16911216 (two leading climate scientists) just basically said hansen has been correct this whole timeTOTAL HANSEN VICTORY
>>16912445Sea level rise models published in the 80s have proven to be incredibly accurate your too stupid and scientifically speaking uncurious to know this
>>16912452Fixed your figure chvddy
>>16912449People who get triggered by climate change seem to only think linearly. This doesn't work when studying complex systems and it really seems to make them get very angry
>>16912443Your retarded, the forecast for that model >>16908572 is from 2000 to 2024. The difference between the raw and adjusted temps is basically 0 over that period so your dogshit argument doesn't even make sense in this scenario.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/12/climate/trump-repeals-epa-endangerment-finding The orange emperor says it's all a hoax and we should all suck on tailpipes.
>>16905995When do Green Sahara and Green Syberia come back? I want to resurrect megafauna to inhabit these places, imagine how cozy it would be.
>>16913294Siberia will be a pretty swell place to be once we reach the hothouse equilibrium, since, unlike canada, it actually has soil and isn't just barren rock.
>>16913294The green Sahara and African humid event was mainly driven by earths procession and the cycles take about 20,000 years. The last African humid period ended approximately 5000 years ago so the next one should come around in about 15000 years, unless we've entered a drastically different climate regime by then.
