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Discuss stuff that’s locked behind security clearances. I’m looking for a screencap of a defense contractor talking about creating negative energy spaces using lasers. Anyone got it? Also place to discuss theories on UAPs and other technologies.
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Man, spies have gotten lazy
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At least make your bait higher effort than this and use real research instead of schizo shit.
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>>16907756
The fact that defense contractors and government agencies have technologies locked behind security clearances and compartmentalization is hardly schizo shit. Thanks for the bump though you fucking retard.
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it's mostly radio tech used in the f35s
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>>16907605
im a tourist checking out a bunch of boards that i dont use but this is a good thread, i'll post some black project shit in a little bit. i have a good amount of stuff saved but a good deal of it is unsubstantiated, concept art, etc.
i dont recall anything about negative energy spaces or lasers though.
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>>16907779
>black projects
>F35
Really bro?
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>>16907605
What the blacks do in their projects is none of my concern.
I hear rumor they have a type of clearance given out to very few outsiders. Inward pass is what they call it.
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>>16907819
actually i lost all my shit but go look on the /k/ archive for essentially the same title thread
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>>16908027
Black people invented zero point energy. De’Shawn Jackson created the first ZPE device, called the “Muhfuggin rotating thing” in 1899. In that same year his wife invented twerking.
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>>16907605
The only way you're getting any documents out of me is if you're a war thunder dev looking for added realism.
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"Black projects" are shit you don't really expect. They're boring but make a big difference. It requires niche information to understand, like fractal encryption algorithms, or submarines being invisible but only at a very specific depth.
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>>16908027
'Inward pass?' Gotta give them credit, I didn't realize they were investigating Buddhism when no one was watching.
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>>16907605
All RAM, memory, etc. shortages were not because of floods, AI, or other made-up excuses. Governments all over the world are building a bunch of data centers to prepare for WW3.
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Program Office:DARPA Tactical Technology Office (TTO) / NSA Research Classification:TOP SECRET // SI // ORCON // NOFORN

1. Project Overview
* Project Name:GOYBEAM
* Primary Objective:To field a Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) system capable of projecting a high-frequency, modulated microwave beam to induce targeted physiological effects.
* Mechanism of Action:The Goybeam Emitter Unit (GEU), uses a focused, high-gain antenna array to project a concentrated beam of millimeter-wave (mmWave) and terahertz-frequency radiation. This energy penetrates organic tissue to a depth of several cm, causing rapid and uncontrollable heating of cellular water content. This results in systemic hyperthermia, cellular disruption, and catastrophic failure of the central nervous system.
* Intended Effects:
* Lethal:Rapid boiling of bodily fluids, leading to internal organ failure and death.
* Crippling:Induction of severe neurological damage, permanent loss of motor function, and incapacitating pain.
* Disabling:Acute disorientation, vertigo, and overwhelming nociceptor stimulation to neutralize targets without permanent lethality.

* Target Sets:Designated Domestic Terrorist Organizations (DTOs) and Hostile Non-State Actors (HNSAs). Specifically authorized for use against the "Will Stancil Militia" (WSM) in Minnesota and for border enforcement operations.

3. Key Technical Specifications
* Effective Range: 40-1000m
* Power Source:Battery or DC generator
* Frequency Band:95-110 GHz (Primary), 300-400 GHz (for neurological disruption)
* Targeting System:Targeting suite (EO/IR, LIDAR, FLIR)
* Counter-Countermeasures:[REDACTED]

4. Operational Deployment Directives
* Operation: HAMMERFALL (Minnesota):Authorized for use against WSM strongholds in MSP Sector. Rules of Engagement (ROE) are delegated to responsible unit commanders
* Operation: GATEKEEPER (Border):Authorized for deployment along designated high-traffic border sectors.
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something interesting
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>>16909425
I haven't gotten in trouble for that one yet. a quick update for all the new work getting done around the Lambert airport-

good news for the St Louis region, especially those areas hit by the spring 2025 tornadoes. once those properties enter the $1 homes landbank, the next phase of urban development and gentrification of the hoods will begin, mostly from the region of Coldwater Creek westward (for obvious reasons). especially notable are the recent buildups along the Earth City area in relation to warehousing, logistics, and general storage. those will be slated for businesses secondary to aerospace, including those related to domestics, but also just as much for manufacturing. most, if not all the renascent work in and around the airport is related to dismantling GKNs CNC equipment and manufacturing footprint to retool for next gen airframes, jeets or not, so get in and get jobs once they pop, because now that the beoing union has settled their contract, the boeing big wigs have begun the next phase of pumping their stock market funny money into robots, CNC machines, and other production equipment. also, St Louis beats every other city in the nation in property price/value ratio, in addition to being the most trigger happy bunch of wakandans in the nation, per capita, so bring your body armor. jobs are on the up, homes are still cheap, and the gang bangers mostly keep to themselves in their radioactively contaminated hell hole neighborhoods.

also, the Arch is a scalar interferometer, which is why it does so much weather deflection. it is part of the pre-HAARP program, but upgraded.
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>>16907605
Only "secret" I know is that Savannah River used to have prostitutes on the payroll because pussy seeking by the types of eggheads that worked there was seen as a national security risk.
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I am almost positive that the stopped and slow light experiments of the late 90's and early 2000's helped the government build themselves a hard x-ray/gamma ray laser. There's a non-trivial amount of information floating around out there about muh polariton pulse compressor that I believe it's 1000% real.
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>>16907763
Which is why if I wanted to make some (((UFOs))), I would do it under the AEC/DoE because of the additional classification levels concurrent with TS/SCI and then have the Navy be my military cooperator because they are autistic about classifying literally everything and they already do nuclear stuff with the AEC/DoE.
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>>16909806
You can't have some Sigma fag spilling the beans after he spills his seed now can we?
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>>16907605
Oh, I have all those. I'm probably the one who posted it to begin with. This one is especially spicy because I can 100% prove this is indeed a real thing, and it's related to this>>16910505
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It's really very interesting, especially since these were written 10-20 years ago. You might remember some of this being in the news if you're 40+, then it vanished around 2004. Coincidentally, this article came out around the same time.
https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Air-Force-pursuing-antimatter-weapons-Program-2689674.php
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The "saw all the graduate students goggles" guy was Robert Hellwarth at USC. There is a photo of him using a spatula as a mirror surface in a phase conjugate optics rig. Someone posted it on /sci/ a few months back.
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>>16910533
Fuck me
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>>16910531
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Last one for now.
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>>16909769
Are you the bubblehead fag going on about those lightning whistlers in ULF being ayys?
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>>16910578
>bubblehead
yup

>fag
nope

>lightning whistlers in ULF
nope. super interesting. hand't heard that until now. please explain.

the bubblehead you are thinking about is probably the one who posted the cuboid attack thread.
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>>16910551
how do we keep meeting up? only 400 or so humans on 4chan, thats how.
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>>16910586
Well, friendo. You wanted all these screenshots, now you've got them. That's not even half of them, but I'm not filling the whole fucking thread with screenshots. You want to know what sorts of glownigger programs are on going, you should look at what this guy has been into and is into now. He's working with Raytheon and another company on basically glownigger DLSS for sub-diffraction optical imaging.
https://diffraqtion.com/whoweare
The jeet in the middle is the important one.
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>>16910605
Because I am the positronium particle beam tard of /k/, and ATS is down forever, so here is the only place you can discuss this for the most part.
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>>16910606
It also looks like this could be for single photon detection radar systems. My man Dutton was into all kinds of shit.
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>>16910606
rad. thanks for all the screencaps. I had a pdf rip from the site in my stash and lost it. subdiffraction imaging is cool. one of the systems I worked with in crapistan used TISERs to do that. those are the glass camera quality sensors. a typical TISER setup can get about 60 sample points per oscillation of infrared. at that point, it is just like a phased array, except optical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-stretch_analog-to-digital_converter

TADCs are used in older equipment, or those related to more higher power systems, not so much signals like TISERs. when I blather on about SASERs and super sonar systems, when those are rigged using these types of DACs, they get what you would call sub-diffraction imaging, just in the sonar domain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-interleaved_ADC

all that bullshit about wavelength limited imaging is just that, crap. just sample the fuuuuuuck out of the signal. there are optical signals from outer space which are waveform modulated in the optical range. some from jupiter. you need a TISER quality optical sensor to get that.
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>>16910619
>single photon detection radar systems

muhfugga

>>16910624
just sample the fuuuuuuck out of the signal.

beat me by 3 fuckin minutes. you did this to me last time when I was doing the cubane thing. you are a fuckin thunder stealer.
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>>16910624
I'll say this, absolutely none of this is far fetched. I can say with near 100% certainty that the Dugway Zapper is real, and solid chance it really is a collimated beam of bound state positronium. A few universities almost come out with it. Kirk McDonald at Princeton is a habitual line stepper, but never actually crosses it.
>A weapon...no...we just collide high energy electron beams and lasers for science
>Money...from the Department of Defense, you say...never...
>Office of Naval Research? Never heard of it
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>>16910631
the only thing I can trade back is picrel. Peano is to arithmetic as chemistry is to fundamental particle physics. he wrote the book on what happens under the hood, fundamental mathematics. bookrel is what he did to rewrite calculus in minimalist form, blank sheet. problem is, this asshole wrote everything good he ever did in latin, and even then it was his own fuckin version of simplified minimalist latin. it's actually fun as fuck to have to learn latin just to read his papers.

the point with all this bullshit is computational approaches. the "nonlinearity" bullshit which arises when the calculations have to be performed to do all this wacky physics is partly due to using pseudolinear functions because lazy and "muh approximations and standard deviations" bullshit excuses. the truth is, it gets worse than Godel's incompleteness theorem, such that because there are linearized computational processes, we cannot compute an accurate "sub integer" result when using that shit. instead, it has to be more of a directed acyclic graph, but then that is limited by the finitude of the graph size and symbol set.

or man Peano here figured differently, building equivalent mathematical functions using geometry, numberless, and conformally invariant. what all that bullshit means is when we read about these "shape languages" and "shape signals" from outer space, especially what the FL crew analyzes from the Cassini Diskus, it starts to make a sort of mathematical sense.

that was Peano's whole thing. I am pretty sure his approach is needed to actually wrangle the fustercluck of mathematical tools and processes to even make this shit work in the first place.
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>>16910644
https://iquilezles.org/articles/distfunctions/

Inigo Quilez is where I am ripping all the functions used to convert Peano's geometric calculus to Quilez' computable signed distance field functions. think of it as "collapsing the mathematical wavefunction" such that, similar to symbolic algebra, just rearrange and collapse the expression enough such that you only do the actual number crunching at the end.

you need this sort of stuff to actually compute these waveform interactions in 3d without having to having a bullshit computationally accurate toolkit like openacc or libm. you just do a shit ton of geometric calculus and then simplify that down algebraically, then compute a numeric result. the starting geometric function doesn't always collapse down the same way, causing a "hidden function" to happen- the thing mathematicians hate. addition doesn't always behave consistently, as do the other basic functions.
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>>16910644
I've got this book, but I'm too retarded to read it. I thought it would be some general theories supplemented with math. Instead, the entire thing is PhD-level fuck you math. It's apparently worth some money, and it's hard to find copies for sale.
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>>16910659
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Kantor

from a glance, I like him. I went through a phase reading about that digital physics stuff a while back. I'll pickup some Kantor stuff and put it in the reading list now. cheers for that. the last I looked at it all, Wolfram's ANKS was popular, and I really liked how he spent so much time making visual explanations.

the problem I keep having with digital physics is it is just some sort of wacky approximation scheme. that sub-integer stuff was what I was referring to. at first glance, I am probably going to like Kantor because of what it says about his relating micro-to-macro scale with common mathematical expressions. I forget which one of those other famous guys from that time wrote all about conformal geometry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_geometry

but it was more or less a system such that a geometric description of a physical system can have computations performed on it, rather than a coordinate/scalar/numeric system of mathematics, which is ultimately symbol rearranging functions. from what I can tell about others who did the same, they sort of settle on a numberless system at first, akin to what we are used to with some of those fundamental physics equations. after a time, they start figuring out they need to not only have a numberless system, also a symbolless system. more often than not that is some form of geometry. when the digital physics guys do the same, its like they end up describing analog computers and how they operate, forgetting that their digital computers are just really fast analog sample-and-hold computers. I think if the digital physics guys, and I mean this, start thinking in terms of cyclic waveforms instead of square waveforms, their circuits take on a different context. a ripple adder, for example, is really just elaborate constructive interference with an amplitude dividing filter which pumps the "carry" of the typical binary ripple add circuit over to the next bit.
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>>16910659
>PhD-level fuck you math
how about this-

every single digital physics scheme out there fails to account for bit entropy. what I mean by that is when an operation is performed such that, for example dividing an odd number by 2, there will be at some point a discarded remainder. in terms of circuitry, that is just the ground circuit on the processor, or at least the transistor dumping that actual electricity to the electrical return line, causing variations within an acceptable range, but also contributing to thermal noise and all other bullshit. the problem is, all digital functions are unary functions, those of which when dividing an odd number by 2 creates unaccounted for unary entropy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine

if we are going to pretend that the church-turing thesis holds such that MONIAC is an obscenely accurate unary computer, then at some point, the mathematical entropy will accumulate such that the computer fucking evaporates. it would be as if your home computer would self destruct if some asshole wrote a script to divide 7 by 2, thereby causing spare binary bits to evaporate from this reality when they are discarded.

geometric calculus doesn't have that problem.
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>>16907605
Biggest one I saw was DARPA had an 'almost' LLM in 2005, was that fake?
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>>16907605
What do other anons think about the quantum manipulater the us is building right now?
They try to build a AI robot that is always picking another gold ball. His success rate will be 100%, not the normal 50%. Imagine a robot that always picks the two gold ball box. This will change this world forever.
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>>16911399
>2005
earlier than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection_Machine

those computers were used to generate the initial conditions and early experiments with the concept of individual computational nodes operating in parallel and having different topologies. the connection machines were an extension of the systolic array concept

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systolic_array

wherein some of the researchers involved in using their designs for math work, then some linguistics and cryptanalysts built some really simple neural networks on them, except that the physical constraints of the design made a rectangular grid type neural network. you'll notice how modern neural networks, not just the language models, need some sort of network topography which a rectangular grid cannot provide. a modern GPU with the compute array on it would be like a systolic array of sorts, or at least a fixed-function and fixed-toplogy design. anyway, all of these are computable with traditional approaches and can all be abstracted down to a shit ton of matrix multiplications once the weights and all that are found out.

these are the digital versions, but the super interesting stuff happens in analog neural networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptron
https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_perceptron_circuit
https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/15/4222
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>>16911477
bookrel. another good reference on how to design and build analog circuits which perform the equivalent functions of their digital approximated values. what this boils down to is when an analog circuit is set to race against a digital circuit under the conditions such that they are both fixed function, meaning no chicanery about programs and implementations, just bare computation... the analog circuit always runs less current and has nearly instant slew rates to beat even the best digital signal processor with 1 clock cycle latency with instruction completion, not like these shitty x86 style processors we use. what makes analog even better is that they are scale invariant, meaning if you design an analog circuit from the nuts and volts magazine, you can physically scale it down to a handful of atoms on a silicone die which ends up being a thumbnail of area for an analog circuit compared to a football field for the digital.

the connectome of Broca and Wernicke's area is/was used for analog LLM designs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broca%27s_area

because when, surprise surprise, a topological copy of that area of the brain, when implemented in an analog circuit using perceptrons and weighted values between them, you start getting linguistic outputs from that, which are then output either via text or voice, similar to the digital LLMs you see today. the usual catch with analog computation was they are easy to make fixed-function, not usually reprogrammable like digital... buuut.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-programmable_analog_array

you get a reprogrammable grid for the topology implementation, which means you are limited compared to having a fab shop for big acreage, but FPAAs are the next niche for neural networks and LLMs to get their filthy claws into.

https://proceedings.neurips.cc/paper_files/paper/1992/file/2dea61eed4bceec564a00115c4d21334-Paper.pdf

visual stuff too.
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>>16911484
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptrons_(book)

if you are interested in the early classified work in neural networks and languages, bookrel is what you want to get an idea of the timeline. from there, you have to match towards information which has been released over the years about old computational assets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_I_Perceptron

that computer was a manual implementation of what you would be familiar with as a cheap programming tutorial to read a 20x20 pixel image and do some character recognition on it. that tech was around since the 80s with the postal services using high speed fixed function character recognition computers which were trained using the techniques of the Mark 1 Perceptron machine.

all you hungry youtubers looking for content to farm, making a reproduction Mark 1 Perceptron computer would cost about $1k in parts off of digikey and you could timelapse the build into a video. from there, the "weights" being programmed in the neural network are dial knob potentiometers. that means you would load up a painting of a letter, then tweak all the knobs until you got the output to settle to what you wanted. manually. foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

those same guys worked for the three letter agencies all along the way, often times in cryptanalysis and other such computational linguistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._C._R._Licklider

the book about Licklider is another timeline you can sync up to the classified projects from the day back then. there is a good audiobook out about it too.

all those analog neural network computers were actually listening in on everyones kitchen phones and such from the 60s and onwards. have fun with that.
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>>16911492
for the blank paper programmers, these same techniques were first implemented on paper by Vannevar Bush, part of the Bush political bloodline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vannevar_Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_We_May_Think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memex

in which he designed analog systems to perform the same systems as digital, except closer to the form we see today. the Memex system was more or less an filesystem for analog computers in which storing data was in a sort of bitmap format, except on formats like microfiche and film. during the development of radio and land line communication, the surveillance approach was to use analog recordings on tape which were then analyzed using digital computers to then yield an equivalent analog circuit. from there, conversion of spoken words to teletype output was just as cake as it is today feeding an audio input to an LLM and getting text spat out.

they don't make programmers like that anymore. Vannevar, being part of the Bush family, was instrumental towards getting Prescott Bush into influential positions, and later, sons as presidents. wild times. when you hear about Bush Sr. habing been a "programmer of people" during his glowie days, it isn't too far off...
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>>16907605
There are at least two separate secret projects working on nanomachines. No, not with biology. I suspect the chinese could have one too. They're certainly investigating the necessary physics and chemistry.
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>>16907605
This guy was killed in Ukraine
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>>16907605
>Third worlders getting so desperate after being completely btfo in modern theaters over and over they're digging on Estonian knitting forums for help
Grim
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>>16911498
Vannevar Bush is not related to George Bush, friendo. Vannevar Bush is responsible for creating the infinite glownigger money funnel that is the National Science Foundation. Coincidentally, the NSF was first run by the Office of Naval Research. People also forget that he founded Raytheon.
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>>16911565
Same thing with vacuum binefringing lasers like ELI.
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>>16911953
>not related
well fuckadoodledoo. I was 100% they were. thanks.

either way, NSF is where the actual black projects are. DoD/DARPA is pretty far down that human centipede. it would be accurate to say NSF have the black projects while MIC/DoD/DARPA has the brown projects.
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>>16912015
No, the NSF is just a funding mechanism. They don't run projects, only fund them. It's funny because if you looks a funding cuts to other institutions like the NIH, the NSF is largely immune. The real glownigger shit goes on in places like the Office of Naval Research, as they are a for profit agency of the Navy and do not have to report their budget to Congress as part of the National Defense spending bills, so no direct Congressional oversight. The real question is why the US Navy is so interested in Cold Atom research to begin with? The ONR directly funded Wolfgang Ketterle's Nobel Prize work.
https://www.onr.navy.mil/about-onr/history/nobels
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>>16911958
Meme. Nanotech basically enables the star trek replicator, so you can make all the other star trek shit. It's a winner take all technology too. It's a difficult process to bootstrap the first replicator, but once you have one it's possible to expand production capacity exponentially. Being even a month behind puts you at an enormous disadvantage. Even if nanotech doesn't scale as much, it's enormously disruptive. Computer chips basically become free
>>16912051
>why cold atoms
Better inertial measurement units. It means you get GPS that works underwater. Cold atoms could be used to make gravity sensors sensitive enough to find subs
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>>16909425
It's schizo shit
>organometallic alloys
Schizobabble
>hard shell blimp
air ships are obsolete and have been so since like 1930.
This post is schizo shit, but bulk metallic glass blow molding is real so I'll give it that. No fucking way it scales up to airplane sized stuff. Stopped reading after cubane
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whats up with these faggots posting phone screenshots
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>>16912134
why did you post so many inflated metal dick balloons?
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>>16910586
>>fag
>nope
maybe

>the bubblehead you are thinking about is probably the one who posted the cuboid attack thread.

That’s the one. He claims ayy comms is an UWBSS signal in ULF, basically an exponential chirp. I did some digging and it’s a pretty well documented phenomenon: https://vlfstanford.ku.edu.tr/research_topic_inlin/introduction-whistler-waves-magnetosphere/
I don’t want to completely write him off because he had a lot of interesting things to say, and definitely has a spook background. I just wanna set up an SDR to listen in on ayys
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>>16908347
The only thing /k/ is good for these days is spreading state sponsored disinfo
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>>16912134
>Stopped reading after cubane
Part 4 and 5 are the best part
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No country has Anti gravity technology
No country has particle beam weapon
No country has cloaking device
No country has Time machine
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>>16912546
>No country has particle beam weapons
We literally launched a particle accelerator into space to demonstrate this, and even returned it functional to Earth.
https://proceedings.jacow.org/l90/papers/th454.pdf
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>>16912595
particle accelerator, not particle beam weapons
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>>16912599
Did you not read where they actually fired a particle beam from it? And I'm not 100% saying the particle beam part is real, but the hard x-ray/gamma ray laser part is 100% real. It's not tremendously far fetched once you have a sufficiently high powered laser in the right spectrum.
https://atap.lbl.gov/news/a-novel-technique-for-producing-positron-beams-using-laser-plasma-accelerators/
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Jooeeeee Biden
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>>16909806
thats based
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>>16909425
The phononic surfaces thing is interesting because that is definitely real. Boeing tested a sonic emitter for passenger aircraft to aid fuel economy, and it's too different from the effects you get with induced plasma sheathes (speed and aerodynamics).
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>Up for 8 days
>75 replies between maybe 4 people
This is why we all stick to /k/ for these sorts of threads. Plus, everyone already has all these fucking screenshots, so half the thread isn't posting them again.
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>>16907605
All that shit's fake. If you want the real deal, listen to things that are posted one time on /pol/ and get glowniggers livid. There is an underground base beneath the Pyrenees that connects the Bay of Biscay to the Mediterranean Sea. The rich kiddy diddlers didn't think anyone knew about it.

The biggest non-secret that the rich and their glownigger pets are desperate to keep is that the breakaway "civilization" (they're barbarians, they're not civilized) is actually miles underground. All those "UFOs" you hear about exiting and entering water? That's because they put their entrances to these bases deep underwater. Easier to hide them that way. EVERY conspiracy theory stupid idea you have ever heard exists to protect these DUMBS (which are not exclusively military). They are great cities where the rich have "retired" to while they allow the surface world to decay into devil-worship and swarthoid dysfunction.
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>>16913468
They are spotted in the ocean because of I wanted to do a crew exchange in a craft that's not supposed to exist, instead of landing it at an air base, I might use submarines to facilitate crew exchanges. There are a few old stories floating around about weird crew members being onboard attack subs that no one was allowed to talk to, and then they mysteriously vanish from the boat one day in the middle of the ocean.
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>>16913484
bubblehead glowie here from all those /x/ posts. ditto all.

>>16913412
been waiting for new stuff too.
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>>16907605
LMAO, those are jobs programs for retards who couldn't make it into the private sector.
Those imbecile retards can't even reverse engineering old ass technology from thousands years ago.
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>>16912595
Anon, lame and gay shit doesn't count.
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There cant be FTL without causality violations. FTL of any kind has to be ruled out.
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>>16913592
>Launch a linear accelerator into space in 1989
>Fire an actual particle beam from it
>Return it to Earth
>It still works just fine
Come again?
>>16913609
What if you're not actually moving faster than the speed of light? What if you're alternating the relative permeability and permittivity of a very small region of space and artificially raising the maximum value of c in that small region?
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>>16913577
I'll give you something. This guy...
https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/FileId/170040/
They redacted his name, but not his fucking company lmao. They also totally forgot to redact his name from the citations section. His name is Gerald A Smith, and he knows this guy...
https://www.niac.usra.edu/files/library/meetings/fellows/mar04/Edwards_Kenneth.pdf
They had a company together called Positronics Research LLC. trapping positronium behind a Sears in New Mexico. For some reason, no one has put two and two together that these guys not only know each other and have a company together, but were doing decidedly "not AIMStar" related shit at Penn State. Not even the SF Gate figured it out on their "USAF Antimatter Weapons Program" article. It's hard to figure out unless you were already familiar with Kenneth Edwards, who was famous for a week or two in 2004 thanks to the SF Gate.
>Please...SF Gate man...I can't talk to you...the USAF is very, very, very angry with me
This is probably the decidedly "not AIMStar" slide that got him into trouble to begin with.
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>>16913577
Do you know about the legend of the Dugway Zapper, anon? Literally the best documented (((UAP))) sighting you have never heard of (probably).
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>>16913639
>https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/FileId/170040/
>https://www.niac.usra.edu/files/library/meetings/fellows/mar04/Edwa

thank you. been looking for these.

>>16913643
>Dugway Zapper
not any more than what you can get online. not until reading it in this thread. it doesn't surprise me, and definitely looks like one of those interesting projects someone like you could take on. get that SDR...

>>16912324
>I just wanna set up an SDR
well, we are waiting. they are cheap, easy to setup, and even easier to design and build your own pcb for a specific type of signal once you learn more. hackrf is good.
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>>16913639
>positronium
interesting. I bet my spare dick that you can synthesize positronium in the same manner electrons are synthesized from gamma radiation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYyrgDEJLOA

then mobius curl of an electron is probably inverse to the mobius curl of the positron. interaction uncurls the particle into radiation packets/quanta again, and the bound energy which formed the curl in the first place releases.

POOMA.
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>>16907605
>negative energy spaces using lasers
What's the point of this stuff if you lose to illiterate goat hearders in Afghanistan?
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>>16913665
>lose to illiterate goat hearders in Afghanistan?
I can count a lot more illiterate goat fucking Afghans who lost to me and mine than otherwise.
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>>16913674
The mighty Tiger Tank could destroy 10 T-34s for each of its own losses.
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>>16913677
the mighty Afghan shitbox technical can suicide vbied themselves to the pearly gates for a 1:100 KDR too, doesn't mean shit.
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>>16913646
Oh, I’ve got several SDRs setup, it’s literally my job lol. I’m just waiting for someone to give me a good lead on what I need to look for in the spectrum that isn’t an obscure radar or emissions from lightning. Setting up an antenna for ULF/VLF is a huge PIA.
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>>16913757
>I’m just waiting for someone to give me a good lead
ok, one sec.
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>>16913757
read what I wrote here about TISERs and the concept of hypersampling, in general. I have been blathering about this on 4chan for a while. it boils down to going from nyquist sampling, to oversampling, to hypersampling. a "hypersampled signal" is one such that it goes beyond the Lyapunov horizon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_hypercube_sampling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyapunov_stability

which means that if you were to lose 1 sample, or have 1 sample be off not by a single random bit, but by the infinitesimal value of you calculation system, yet not affect the output of the calculation. it is in effect, a sampling buffer which does not have the capability to *underflow*.

when reading ultrasonic signals when I blather about super sonar systems, those are gigahertz level acoustics systems. gigaherz audio. hypersampling there, but also huge fucking piles of data which have to use Latin hypercube analysis to get the job done, in addition to Peano's geometric calculus to prevent the Lyapunov Horizon equivalent happening linguistically when performing symbolic calculus, like you all do in college, compared to geometric calculus, which Peano does.

blah blah blah, what this means is you are going to need to setup a TISER array of as many SDRs as you can, and timestamp every single clock cycle output of your ADC with a timestamp at the picosecond scale, at least.

a hypersampling phased array. doing one in the radio freq range is probably out of your budget, but when you see me posting SASER shit, you can easily make one there.

have fun.
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Some of the math I developed is being used to work on BB projects by the US gov. It's so advanced not even Annals would accept it, most of it is on Zenodo but you can find it yourself. I built off of several theories, like Fractal Wave Algebra and ASToE
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>>16913757
blathering on, when I make comments about "waveform modulation" what that means is when, at first, you work with a hypersampled laser signal, *you would think* that it would come through as a clean sine wave, or at least indicative of a singal photon wide beam...

there are changes in the slope of the sine wave, which can most definitely be attributed to doppler shifts, glancing angles, etc... but when the deformation of that waveform begins to be a modulatable property which we can, and do, use for communications, it also means we can start looking at "sub-wavelength modulation" which is rad.

also the UWBSS stuff I said should be a programming exercise for you if nothing else. just stop wasting your time doing SDR programming in python and go straight C. either that or get one of those cool SDR/FPGA combo boards and make your own digital backend. thats how those really good distributed sonar arrays all the countries are putting out now work. no need for wacky capacitance balanced cabling like on the old fast attack boats. now everyone just sends digital over fiber. more secure that way too.
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>>16913765
>Lyapunov horizon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyapunov_stability#Stability_for_systems_with_inputs

one thing about the frontend design stuff you need to consider. with Lyapunov means with systems with inputs is to imagine a perfect analog signal system, perfect inputs, perfect outputs, and then inject a minimum quanta of noise.

does that noise appear in the output? does it appear at your sampling frequency? does it exist?

same with digital systems. if you have an input sample of a system be off by +1 or -1 infinitestimal, does it change the digital output? if so, increase the width of the digital output, or look for the computational entropy loss in your circuit.

think of that is a "second nyquist limit" in which one can be certain that the samples they are capturing are correct in their scalar property, while the same need exists for the timstamp signal as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyapunov_stability#Stability_for_linear_state_space_models

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Lyapunov#Work

most of his work centered around stuff like that, and I have written about him before. this doesn't mean you need to learn piles of new math, it just means you need to understand the conditions which satisfy the requirements to "hypersample" a signal.

for the time series stuff, you can imagine a timestamp being off by an infinitesimal, maybe a femtosecond if you are flush with funding money, but one sensor in the array sent one sample which was off by 1 femtosecond.

does that change the output? if not, you're calculations cannot "escape" past the Lyapunov horizon. these are more or less signal quality specifications.
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>>16913779
>does it change the digital output?
I should've been more clear here. the concept is such that if a single input is +1 or -1 infinitesimal during computation and verification, and if the output is "stable" such that testing by computation if any noise on that signal input could've affected the output. the differential analysis of +1 and -1 in the pipeline helps for that, while also indicating which input channels are in fact susceptible for one reason or another, beyond the abillity to fix by sampling.

such infinitesimal artifacts exist for the time domain too, but you can also imagine what would happen if *all* timestamps on an input were off by the same +1 or -1 value. you need to be able to "squeeze fit" the data series waveform against what it is expected to be in the Latin hypercube.

if your sample is leading or lagging some amount in the time domain, it is a different kind of noise injection. you get the idea.
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>>16907605
All the alien tech is real, that's why we use inefficient rockets to launch standard tech into orbit.
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>>16913770
you are a fucking schizo retard
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>>16913900
Well, this is a retarded analogy. What if they are heinously expensive to build and operate? What if you had a non-zero chance of turning the crew into soup or an energetic gamma ray burst everytime you start the drive up? It's the same reason we fly the B-52 still and not B-2's or B-21s...it's cheaper and easier to maintain on "normal" missions. There is almost assuredly some sort of trickle down effect where what's in the SAPs makes it's way down the ladder to more mundane airframes. Boeing almost assuredly won the NGAD bid because of their fancy reverse Doppler metamaterial coating they have been working on for 30+ years. Considering PhantomWorks just finished a new coating facility a couple weeks before the winner was announced, seems pretty likely.
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>>16914139
>energetic gamma ray burst
ditto. these fuckheads think they will just download plans for a positronium engine and make one in their workshop at home. as if they could even afford the raw materials, let alone the machining equipment, engineering brainpower, and design quirks.

absent that, they still throw out bullshit like that.

chucklefucks forget that with any phsyics more fundamental than chemistry, you are allowed only one fuckup, then you are dead. chemistry will jump up and bite you too, but fucking up so bad that it makes the dipshit who collected all those hallway birds into a homemade "reactor". you don't want to SL-1 yourself, or worse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokaimura_nuclear_accidents

poor Hisashi there did everything to procedure and look at him now. all those engineering documents are written in blood for a reason. and then, for some backyard provincial dimwit wants to harness several orders of magnitude more, yet also scoff at the work of those doing it.

chuckle factory.
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>>16914139
>reverse Doppler metamaterial coating
>coating

I keep fucking telling you guys about the Boeing improvements around Lambert airport. they are heavily investing in that new coating facility here, bringing TONS of jobs and work to St Louis. Boeing airliners were a fuckup, they admit, but they are doing a halfway decent job of not fucking up their military stuff, so give them that.

besides, they are just a glorified machine shop making custom hot rods for uncle sam to fly around and do gangster shit in the world. if they weren't the build shop, someone else would be.
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>>16910531
>Schwing!
creation of electron-positron pairs from vacuum
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>>16914139
https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=131264-TheAdvancedCoatingsCenteristhelatestfactorysupportinginnovationefforts-State-of-the-artfacilitywillhousecriticalpost-assemblyphases&asPDF=1

their mediaroom is right down the street. I ride my bike by there all the time. you guys want cool work and to see how it all fits together behind the scenes, get a job, pass the background checks, and keep your yapper shut about the specifics and details of implementation to not get hit with intellectual property rights laws and NDA violations.
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>>16914156
>to not get hit with intellectual property rights laws and NDA violations.
or a bullet.
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superfluid helium4 is apparently quite easy to work with in a lab, unlike other BECs
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/09/250913232932.htm
you are in a maze of twisty phonons, all different
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>>16912134
>Stopped reading after cubane
ok, cool, yeah, sure, whatever. here's a project update from me that I want to get from you, telling about interesting projects you are working on.

>hyperbrisant fuels
the problem with DIY cubane and their obscenely dangerous derivatives is fairly obvious. there are however some extremely long chain hydrocarbons which have the property of being extremely difficult to combust, yet also being very energy dense. even at their vapor points, these fuels cannot provide enough burn rate to achieve combustion, let alone detonation. buuut, if they are doped with a microwave radiation sensitive, and safe, additive such that they are still in those same ordinary combustion conditions, except now the flame chamber for the engine is the focal point of a parabolic dish shaped outlet nozzle of the high bypass turbofan being powered by it. that provide the combustion energy, which as I mentioned about cubane in the big time engines DoD uses, it is digitally controllable via the microwave emitter, a much more direct and stable combustion control system for the engine compared to using flowmeters, pumps, nozzles, valves, throttles, linkages, servo motoers, etc...

>cavitation mixer
I've bought parts to make one, a liquid mixer. I have a taper diamond grinding bit and a vanadium cavity for the grinder. the stainless steel tank it will reside in is actually a beer keg I got of craigslist for $50. a 5hp motor, an er32 collet extension for the driveshaft, a ceramic mechanical seal, and a belt drive setup for about 10krpm on the driveshaft, or down to 1600 rpm from the motor. this also has the side effect of being able to blend alloys for materials too, some of the amorphous metal stuff I mentioned. I'll also be installing an ultrasonic and microwave amplifier to make a cavitation curtain from the grinder/cavity output before it goes into recirculation in the tank, but hey, one thing at a time.

>lotos tig welder
rad.

what are you working on?
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>>16914192
also fuck it, let's throw out dust guns and particle beams that the other anon brought up.

>particle beams
let's do an easy one for you guys. first up, we need a particle accelerator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-gas_gun

looks cool, except it is just a giant potato launcher. what we need is something fast, quick, and the amplitude of the output is controllable in the same sense the LGG/potato gun can control the pressure it is loaded at.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_laser

stop and think for a second about what a ruby laser does. it provides an excitation wavefront which propagates through a medium and the speed of light. cool, super cool. except we want a particle beam, not a photon beam. we also want hot. hot hot hot.

what if, like a ruby laser, you loaded up a looooong tube with fuel and oxidizer, yet in such a state that it will not react, colder the better, and higher pressure the better. pack it up, pack it in.

you *could* ignite it along the entire length with a synchronizing circuit and sparks, but those, even synchronized, still have latency by the wavefront propagation in the fuel as it reacts.

what if, instead, you shine radiation in one end, radiation tuned to a dopant added to the fuel, which provides a wavefront which propagates faster than any possible chemical reaction due to the inertia of the atoms involved. that wavefront could also be emitted internally along the entire length of the tube, synchronized.

cap one end and put a nozzle on the other. it stays together for a surprisingly long time. very coherent. you can make it a dust gun by adding a nozzle fuel of whatever you want to hit the target with.

https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/11/hypervelocity-macron-accelerators.html
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>>16914150
I don't even think it's antimatter catalyzed propulsion, I think it might operate similar to a black hole analogue, more specifically a Kerr Singularity, or toroidal black hole. Coincidentally, Roy Kerr went to work the for AFRL at Wright Patterson for a few years and did not believe in point singularities.
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>>16914156
You could read a little about it 20+ years ago, but I haven't heard anything about it in a loooooooong time, which probably means they were attempting to engineer it for actual use.
https://epjam.edp-open.org/articles/epjam/full_html/2014/01/epjam140003/epjam140003.html
Some of it can be found at ASU, some can be found from their work with the Transformation Optics department at Duke.
>>16914187
It was also created in the 1930's, so not altogether far fetched that we could have had one maybe inside an airframe in the 40's.
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>>16914196
you said a bunch of words, but all I heard was plausible babble. I keep reading about all that exotic physics stuff, but I just cannot get past how much of a clusterfuck it all is, analytically. it's like getting into spaghetti shitbox programming some dumbass did, causing some fuckup with a machine or piece of software that you have to get inside and unfuck what they did, though it technically *works*, it such a sloppy fuckin soup sandwich that you really just feel like finding the guy and peeling his fuckin face off.

or, I could just build components for better fuels, engines, and materials, all at home.

I am also building an electrotyping rig to try and make amorphous metals that way instead of the hot/cool bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrotyping

it also keeps me from having to make an EDM machine to cut intricate surfaces for the engine parts. the blades, for example, I can just make in one mold, having the electrotyper accumulate material and measure it along the way. finish machining is needed on the acumulation surfaces, but it isn't that bad. sacrificial molds can be used for other parts, but for stuff like turbine blades, I am deffo going to use a single mold per blade batch.

so much easier than solving fundamental physics riddles.
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>>16914198
>Transformation Optics department at Duke
Saturn Arch
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>>16914198
shit. forgot the link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspectral_imaging

those guys were always talking about that approach. I didn't know at the time if was related, but the civilian sector applications of all that stuff is following a typical course. a lot of the stuff posted here so far is about 20 years back, especially Saturn Arch, and I only posted that since the program has been completed and the tech moved to greener pastures.

the name of the game, at least in sensors and such, is hypersampling, hyperspectral, blah blah blah, just sample the fuck out of everything and sift gigabytes of data per millisecond in a digital pipeline.
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>>16914195
>you *could* ignite it along the entire length
as with that channel gun that Jerries were building
crude toys for crude people
light itself could be driven to move at more than c. much more interesting, especially if you can somehow keep it in phase
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1170885
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>>16914207
>somehow keep it in phase
or if the diameter of the cavity used for the microwave radiation induced detonation wavefront matched a harmonic pattern of the wavelength used, like they make you design *away from* in typical waveguide design...

that would be cool. was cool. is cool.
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>>16914207
I could've desribed it better.

think of a long cylinder with 2 options for radiolysis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiolysis

one mode would be axial radiolysis, another diametric. with diametric radiolysis, you can collapse the wavefront all along the axis at once, or, you can fake it out by an apparent wavefront velocity, as you mentioned, but cheating it in an easier way.
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>>16914213
HYG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_photolysis

ditch your flint and use that to fire off your musket.
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>>16914210
you just want to make cool pulse detonation engines, which I can't blame you for, they really are cool
I believe I heard an Aurora or whatever the fuck it's called, exactly once. "sky being zipped open" is how someone else described it, very appropriately. Unforgettable. So that bit in one of the screenshots about donut vapor trails made me chuckle, because I too pointed it to some normoid I was hiking with and got that blank fluoride stare.
out of context problems... I'm somewhat glad I don't have children to worry about
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>>16914215
I heard once those were powered by liquid methane. anyone have something on that?

I want to set mine up such that I can use something like co2 or a light noble gas to pressurize the fuel tank and not need a fuel pump and all that bullshit. it only needs enough pressure to pump it for the flight.

effervescent fuel.
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>>16914216
metholox is fine in-atmosphere, sure
the real limiting factor with any such design is the precooler if you want to keep combustion subsonic, which you, as a proud PDE designer, don't
so you get to be stuck with the issue of how to convince your engine to not assplode itself
good luck, I'm not aware of any codes for hypersonic flow in the public domain
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>>16914217
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>>16914219
oh my, what a big collet chuck you have
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>>16914223
oh my, what a pretty jig boring machine I can slip it into.
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>>16914223
>big collet chuck
aka pre-made driveshaft. balanced and ready to take bearings.
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>>16914222
I'll save you some trouble, you can forget any designs with moving parts in them
your only job is to somehow fix a detonation front in place at the exact end of the throat of your engine, just ahead of where the bell starts and make it so it doesn't erode, vibrate away or otherwise completely fuck said throat to destruction
you need to do this at Mach whatever your fuel explodes at, of course, using an unknown, variable mix of gases we call "air" for an oxygen source and to provide most of your reaction mass
I didn't say metholox instead of methane by accident btw, consider building a low-bypass ramjet around a metholox rocket before moving on to greater things
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>>16914217
>hypersonic flow
don't need it. all I need is an excitation wavefront propagating somewhere around C, digitally controlled, and modelable (?) in a super lazy way just using signed distance fields and specular reflections. anything more than that and DILLIGAF.

maybe a MASER combustion chamber, but I can't figure a way to absorb the beam destination, so for now, I am just doing to design a super shitty waveguide with a really bad hotspot in the middle where I want combustion to happen, then slip the fuel input line upstream of it a bit.

no hypersonic flow.
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>>16914232
>you can forget any designs
I am just working a high bypass turbofan with a radiolytic combustion chamber. I don't want to bite off more than I can chew, since most of the design books are already written and I can just grunt that part out.

normal rpm, 2190 TEP as the lube for the turbine bearings, and hopefully some nifty exotic blades. old ass turbines from the 50s had something like 5% weight variance and still ran fine.
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>>16914238
gnarly
well, best of luck to you
try to make it small, it will have immediate applications in drone warfare
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>>16914241
>drone warfare
I worked tf-odin for a while in trashcaninstan. hung out with the flightline mechanics when they would do engine rebuilds over near Tillman USO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yh5hprc7Jk

can you see me?
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>>16914242
I want to believe you're on the lift next to batman, with that traffic cone
but not actually gonna try to match the hand
unrelated, counting spikes on captcha stars makes me wish for nuclear winter
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>>16914251
CLOSE, but no... cigar.

(there are also multiple cigars)
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>>16914241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxVAaIsfPIY

this, smaller, effervescent hyperbrisant fuel, radiolytic fuel chamber. the turbine blades can be exotic amorphous metals because all I will need to do is blend a colloidal alloy mix in the liquid cavitation mixer, then use that as the electrolyte in the electrotyping rig.

super compact running on extremely energy dense fuel. all the previous combustion chamber auxiliary requipment mass is replaced, and lessened, by the radiolytic combustion system, in addition to having a ready reserve of compressed air for active surfaces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UpKUxY3dKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6FMjOl0TRA

the main engine exhaust is forward, while also providing compressed air flow for active surfaces and blown wings. silent.
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>>16914298
a bit better video for those of you curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKmqP3kQ2A
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>>16914298
it's gonna be louder than a Bear's engines pound for pound
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>>16914309
>Bear's engines
lolwut?
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>>16914312
Tu-95, Kuznetsov NK-12 counter-rotating turboprops
tips of the prop blades are supersonic in cruise regime
ungodly racket
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>>16914316
>Tu-95
duh. I'm turbo stupid.

>supersonic
nah, the overall design is a VTOL/super short takeoff drone similar to the videos above, like the BAE Demon and the blown flap plane rctestflight did. because my design using active surfaces means that engine loss also means an instant stall condition on the wings, not something you can fly a person in.

you can however, fly super slow with a ton of lift, then throttle up to get altitude, then convert the engine over from ducting most of the bypass air to the active surfaces, to then duct more to the rear engine nozzle. at that point, it can be more of a typical drone at higher altitude, and can more approximate a lifting body design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmRX-CzJbd0

those hullforms are really good for putting in active surfaces and hiding a bulky low weight engine inside.
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>>16914322
much better vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPcNkWWyrds
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>>16914329
that is completely and utterly retarded
set a desired attitude (say 2-3 degrees aoa, bank 0) and you tune a couple of PID controllers to get there and stay there
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>>16914355
sure, his control scheme is wackers, but the gist of it is rapid prototyping for lifting bodies is easy, and he could've just put an EDF on his test hullforms and ran that for chuckles. either way, the manufacturability of it is the end goal. his dead weight mass to get the hullform to drop is replaced by ballasted fuel, in addition to providing engine power to prevent all those fuckin oscillations.

it ends up being a powered glider with a high bypass turbofan using a radiolytic comubstion chamber. monocoque hullform like his, except every internal component must fit through the main engine suction. ship in a bottle. monocoque hullforms are common now by using a foam backed internal negative structure (fuel tanks, air ducts, engine bay, etc...) which are laid into a mold prepped with a release sheet, carbon fiber layer, and liquid foam A/B packets inside. throw all the stuff in, close it up, draw a vacuum, and set off the foam packets from outisde the mold.

without active power, most of those lifting body designs are just impossible to maneuver like you would want an orbiting observation drone, or a long distance courier drone, stuff like that. this isn't a drone to chase you through a factory in a post apocalyptic wasteland to deliver a firecracker killshot to your head.
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>>16914362
eh just use a saucer shape with blown edge all around, with enough power it can hover or fly in any direction, actuated vanes to control flow
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>>16914367
>saucer shape
someone actually posted something like that in the /x/ UFO thread when I started talking about wrenches and machine shop type glowie shit. never seen it before, and not that army thing from the 50s with a turbofan in the middle. this was some sort of electric thing using coanda.

I'll hunt a yt video for you of a mono-drone we ran like what you mention, except it didn't use the saucer hullform. just runs naked.
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>>16914367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2cETOyuJ20

almost like that.
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>>16914368
naked is worse, a blown frisbee can work as a normal wing given a moderate aoa you can get a fuckton of lift out of it
transition from hover to fixed "wing" flight is also as easy as closing a few vanes
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>>16914372
>naked is worse
https://geospatialworld.net/news/honeywell-teams-intel-launch-new-drone-service/

soooo sexy. naked is good.

>frisbee
shit man, fuckin great idea. never thought of that. serious.
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>>16914372
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_RQ-16_T-Hawk

T-Hawks are so fuckin cool you don't even know.
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>>16914372
>naked is worse
no way. look at those curves. those spread legs, just inviting you in. all... four of them. sexy legs, sexy curves. naked.

a saucer hullform on that? fuuuuck you.
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>>16914375
any moron can fly when twr>1 and many have
efficiency is another game altogether
>>16914374
feel free to use it, I like to give away ideas I want to see implemented (...again, in some cases)
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>>16914377
>any moron
looks like I'm going to make it after all. thanks anon.
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>>16914381
godspeed anon, I love flying things, I dream of making a cloud jellyfish
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>>16914385
ditto. I'm going to zone out to some music now and imagine what life would've been like if this world wasn't a dumpster fire.

good chatting with you. thanks for the frisbee idea.
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>>16914387
hey, so quick question to the group. this is a glowie campfire story that gets passed around during beer night. it is one thing to find a down ayy ufo, but it is quite another to find a downed ayy replica of one of our planes... why would the ayys do that?

I haven't seen anyone ask the public that question yet...
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>>16913757
>Oh, I’ve got several SDRs setup, it’s literally my job
something you want to keep in mind for your projects:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_code

when sampling from your ADC, whatever type it is, you of course want to maximize the sample bandwidth. some really impressive hall effect multiplexer units exist such that the input signal is steered on a plate of conductive material into a fan of wires on the other end, while the incoming signal is steered into those wires, which are then differentially analyzed to get the ADC signal conversion.

the reason you want gray codes is obvious partly for error correction, but when hypersampling a signal using gray codes, you really open up options for knowing if the sample sent by the ADC is even a valid gray code, especially when the bit width per sample is on the order of 512 wide. that isn't 8 parallel samples at 64-bits, that is 1 channel at 512 bits, and however many more channels you have. the point is, if you get steady gray codes input from a channel, and there is no changes from time stamp to time stamp, you can then perform that differential +1 -1 analysis to see if the output computation changed.

>>16913765
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_hypercube_sampling

because at some point, what you get in from the frontend and ADC output, despite having gray codes to steady out the incoming bits, it still ends up a task where you are doing an elaborate scattershot curve fitting operation for the data to be used for time series analysis. those SDR/FPGA combo boards are great for that, since you can do pipelining of the incoming data, gray code checks, all that stuff directly on the board, sometimes in silicon.

gray codes also help in fpga stuff because it helps cut down on crosstalk between traces on the pcb/fpga due to wild signal oscillations per time stamp.

no go make something cool and show us later.
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>>16913765
>>16913771
>>16913779
>>16913791
>>16914504
I’m offended you think I’d go straight for Python, I can barely eek out enough performance from C. I’ve worked with sampling in the order of nanoseconds (there’s some pretty Epiq commercial off the shelf products out there) but not femtoseconds… crazy. I’m very familiar with Lyapunov stability in the s domain (especially with state spaces) but don’t quite follow what you’re talking about in the discrete domain, guess I’ll have to do some digging. A lot of this sounds like compressive sensing, especially the LHS stuff, even seen some cool applications of it in the wild.

So let’s say I’ve got my antenna array and am sampling at >1GHz with a few terabytes of data… what then? I could use the ol Midas touch and get some geos out of it (if I know what signal I’m looking for). Maybe I’m too much of an RF fag to understand how subwavelength sampling would work with optics… your initial comparison in another thread to LoRa made me think demod would include despreading an exponential chirp. The Peano calculus stuff is outside my wheelhouse, so thanks for putting that on my radar.
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>>16914617
>So let’s say I’ve got my antenna array and am sampling at >1GHz with a few terabytes of data… what then?
so let's look at it in the sonar domain, mostly because that is within your budget and safety. besides, my hypothesis for the waveform modulation is this

I suspect that the emitter is sending not a continuous stream of photons, but rather a "photon train" that to us appears to be a continuous stream. in each of those "photon train cars" is a consistent number of quanta, each with some polarity. if the polarties are such that, to us, when sampling it in the amplitude domain only, you start seeing what can appear to be cresting noise on the ADC, although you are completely within the sampling range...

what I get at with the Lyapunov stuff is brute forcing a huge bit width, but also leaving 80% of the bit-space empty, not counting the losses from gray coding. that means, like if using an 10-bit ADC, when flipping over from 255 to 256, you are actually dropping the current on the power supply for that ADC by 80%, in a snap. in addition to that, you will put some fuckin noise on the signal. using a gray code ADC means that if suppose a 0-5vdc signal comes in at 2.5vdc, and in the analog computer, that means decimcal value 255. when the analog signal changes upward some quanta, instead of bucking the entire power supply, take that extra energy and apply it to the work of flipping a single, and only single, bit to increment the gray code to the next value, reducing line noise on the silicone, and also providing absolutely free error correction without hamming codes and all that shit. if using a 64-bit gray code scheme, and you expected bit 12 to increment because of the analog signal, but for some reason bit 43 flipped too, then you can reliably say, without any wacky error correction, that it was noise and to just rub it out.

same thing with the time domain.

1/?

I'll pull some yt vids
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>>16914617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhJoPzHv2Y

do that with extremely high sampling rates. sub diffraction 3d acoustic sonar imaging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA79EfYA1Mc

also cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSS6yAMZF78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFiubdrJqqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZkLQsv3huo

one really interesting application I want to see are these, but in the sonar domain. looks like those guys got the voxelized glass camera working. if you do a similar process using 3d sonar cameras, and wavefield synthesis on the GPU with shaders, you can get a volumetric differentiating filter system, super good for 3d sonar motion extraction. you can also combing that with parallax camera setups to do cheap 3d voxel extraction at the station, but the voxel camera network approach is really good.

all that extends into phased array stuff too, in the RF domain. sonar is cheaper and easier to do, since high speed ADCs for that are off the shelf. the backend procesing and computation is really what those guys are going with sonar/sound/acoustic cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XityrCGbHm4

I am pretty sure that a combination of acoustic voxel and visible voxel synthesis systems are a really cool setup for oribtal ISR. I worked Constant Hawk and other WAPS/WAMI type stuff in afg, and sometimes with the Gorgon Stare guys too, and we always wanted to do something like that, combining all data feeds together via TCDL.

anyway, the irony is, to do sonar at that level, you need RF quality circuits.
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>>16914617
2/2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-tqpNOSCDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7puA8CcE-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBb7FZHOtI

their platform was cooler than ours because they had super high resolution, but we had huge databanks. tomato tomato.
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>>16914627
sunuvabitch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgon_Stare
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>>16914617
I think you get the idea of my little black project. more or less a long duration high bypass turbofan radiolytic engine powering a sort of lifting body/glider hull with active surfaces for high stability in flight. put a few up in orbit in a city, then have them synthesize both the sonar and image domain into a voxelized scene at the ground station.
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>>16914617
>A lot of this sounds like compressive sensing
yes totally. sorry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_sensing

I think you can tell I am more of a field guy and fucking around the the workshop than doing all that other stuff all the time. I am trying to build a clumsy analog recorder too, just to see for chuckles if it is possible to at least do some ideas in batch processing. it's also easy to make fake datasets for testing by just rendering the 3d scene from the POV of the sensor array, and then calculating off that, all in software before testing in the real.

looking at the examples on the wiki, they are sparse in time. that can work too, so long as every sample from the ADC is timestamped, then they are calculated with whatever latency is in the min/max of the timestamp differences as they arrive at the quad-port SRAM memory handoff part of the pipeline. with those timestamps, it can both be easier, and also not necessary, to do that sparse reconstruction.
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>>16914617
>A lot of this sounds like
so the thing about gray codes, I am fucking up how I am explaining it. take an 8-bit ADC, it has a depth of 255, yielding a total of 2040 "available bits" for the computation. when using gray code and "losing" some of those 2040 bits, yielding a length of something like 112 or whatever to satisfy the gray code condition. except, to keep those same 2040 bits, you can just increase the width of the gray code to make up for the shorter depth.

when doing rapid ADC, being able to use a minimum of electricity, along with not bucking the power supply at certain points along the bit-depth, gray codes and other similar coding schemes are available, which I am sure you are familiar with.

I should just stick to making engine parts acoustic cameras.
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>>16914617
>A lot of this sounds like compressive sensing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae9EKCyI1xU

this made me remember something for when those sorts of calculations are done on samples down the pipeline in a sensor architecture. as suckerpinch shows so much better than I can, if you squint realllllly fuckin hard, you can find oscillations in floating point numbers of every specification. this isn't new info, but the problem is that when you start doing really precise calculations, as you already know, those sorts of little oscillations in the data make artifacts in the computation later, for instance maybe a wavefront shape for a phased array RF signal, or just as much for an acoustic camera.

for me, it's all about scaled integers. doing that makes it easier to see which of the variables in the calculation "underflow" such that because they are bitwise limited, they *should* have some value in them, but they don't. this is a pain in the ass for hardware design focused for profits on the open market, since it means every time a number has to do any calculation whatsoever with another, they may be so far overscaled just to make room for some tiny little air pressure transducer signal or something, but also small changes from an ADC. you can't trust the programmers.
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>>16914617
>A lot of this sounds like compressive sensing
you can think of it as compressive sensing where you rely on compression artifacting to surface latent features in whatever you are compressing
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>>16912134
>air ships are obsolete and have been so since like 1930.
thats why you give it a metal skin and fill it with vacuum instead so it can be smaller and faster and have infinite loiter time

desu I dont think its ever been tried but I the idea is definitely on the shelf
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also the anon going on and on about positronium is definitely a glowie who doesnt want people thinking about the actual physical implications of an anti-electron based system/device
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>>16916207
What physical implications?
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>>16916207
Considering it's implied they aren't storing it, but using a powerful laser to create and direct it to a target as needed, not exactly sure what you're getting at. It IS implied they are storing it for long periods of time in the patents from Positronics Research LLC, apparently for days at a time. I do find it very interesting that there are photos of antimatter traps from ORNL in the NIAC presentation. If I were doing antimatter trapping experiments in the US, ORNL would probably be my first choice because it has the best UPS backup of any national lab, considering the almost all of the TVA nuclear and hydroelectric infrastructure is connected directly to the lab.
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>>16917728
>TVA nuclear and hydroelectric infrastructure
bubblehead anon here from all the blathering above. can confirm. my old e-div chief from the boat when I was stationed in Guam is now the maintenance manager for that facility. he does there what he and I did on the boat, continuity of nuclear propulsion, except now, continuity of power for containment.

can't let power slip for an instant

>best UPS backup of any national lab
he and I were semi-sober one time during a reactor startup when we were leaving Hong Kong. the Frank Cable was there with us, except we had to moor to her since can't pull into a non-nuke pier/port. so, the fleet liberty policy required sobriety, but that didn't apply to bubbleheads, only skimmers. I got so fucking druuuuuuuunk before taking the ferry back to the Frank Cable to then get down to my boat. except, here's the problem, another submarine was moored up, and I confused it with mine. middle of the night, 10 bubbleheads fucking DRUNK when the skimmers would get instant NJP for one drink. I went down below, to what I thought was my boat, only to find out that someone had fucking come in during the day and changed the boat colors on the mess decks from blue to burgundy.

and wouldn't you fuckin believe it, some other fuckin guy was in my rack. that motherfucker. when I eventually stumbled topside, the topside watches on my boat and the other boat were chucklefucking it up.

good times. the e-div chief was there, now at that national lab.
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>>16916207
Yeah it seems the intention here is to make the thread so boring that no one wants to engage.
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>>16917844
>so boring that no one wants to engage.
I tried. I splaffed out all that shit about acoustic cameras and voxelized image synthesis. crickets. was expecting at least something cool to drift along after.

fuckin lame.
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>>16917844
Here's something cool instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqMl2gKaZLg
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>>16913468
>the breakaway "civilization" (they're barbarians, they're not civilized)
>the surface world to decay into devil-worship and swarthoid dysfunction
huh?
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Cool thread, but I'm too stupid to understand half of the shit about sonic cameras (?) that got posted.
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>>16918103
>I'm too stupid to understand
you're in the right place
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>>16916203
>vacuum
>smaller
Not happening. If you think a bunch or support structure that can hold in vacuum will be lighter than bagged helium, you're fucking retarded
>infinite loiter time
Airplanes do it better https://www.aaltohaps.com/zephyr-sets-world-record-for-longest-continuous-flight-flying-67-days-in-stratosphere/
>>16916207
They're just a schizo. There have been efforts to make a gamma ray laser using a positronium population built up in what are essentially giant magic crystals. Gamma ray lasers would be cool for science shit, also space combat
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>>16919283
>He's just a schizo
I know who Allen Mills Jr. is. His name is literally in the NIAC PDF, and the title of one of his big papers is quite literally "Positronium annihilation driven gamma ray laser". But, explain why it's not possible given pic related.
>What happens to the wavelength?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3nYjeZKGxU
nonlinear optics is whack
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>>16919682
>NIAC
NASA institute for investigating ideas so crazy they might just work. Most of the time they don't.
>why it's not possible
Lenses slow light down, but they don't change its frequency. And light being slowed down works by some medium absorbing and reemitting the light. This means an electron in an atom's gotta change energy levels and the energy difference of electrons held by atoms ain't anywhere close to the energy of gamma rays. And if you do, you start tearing apart that cold atom crap

>>16919687
This is able to generate X-rays by turning gas into a plasma. This explains it pretty well https://www.uni-muenster.de/Physik.PI/Zacharias/en/research/hh/hhg.html
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>>16919962
it's really about squeezed quantum states
there are solid materials in which you can get the same effects
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>>16907605
Some schizo on /x/ said US created a nuclear reactor for planes. A small amount of fuel and an aircraft can stay in the air for weeks. They are in the works for an aircraft carrier in the sky
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>>16921626
>aircraft can stay in the air for weeks

look for flying C-WIDs (flying seaweeds for all you cool kids in the know)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDIDoMDQ6nY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2f2oS-eBFM

and HAPS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_platform_station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn0Wh74SMXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YsloiRVEzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKdZZREgwOI

I went looking for the high altitude V shaped fabric planes with distributed rocket propulsion with no luck... if anyone has those, that would be rad. they are the replenishment airframe for the new HAPS systems coming online with compact fusion reactors onboard and crew life support for months on end. flying submarine.
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>>16921652
>V shaped fabric planes
giant inflatable planes under a DoD/NASA grant for high altitude flights, essentially a giant flying V blimp with distributed rocket modules all along the length of the V wings, not a triangle lifting body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Inflatoplane

that was a precursor. larger versions were made, essentially high powered blimps.
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>>16921652
>high altitude V shaped fabric planes
found them.

http://www.jpaerospace.com/ATO/ATO.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP_Aerospace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO3ENmbQQ9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0rsWr2rpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t6oQ7lFwVA

these are the delivery airframes to get gear up to and from the HAPS stations. HAPS stations can then do microsatellite launches, launch of small spacecraft, etc... more or less a frontier station for outerspace, like a waystation before actually leaving. flying space ports, for lack of a better term. the C-WIDs are sort of new, more of a military application using active surfaces, compact fusion reactors with a cubane backup system, and other cool features... and all that other shit no one gives a fuck about.
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>>16921662
for those of you with tinfoil hats who want to know more about the PSVs (Tangent, Akrij, etc...) then you will be interested to learn about the predecessor system using rapidly inflatable ballons which are designed such that the RF cavity shape they take after inflation and deployment facilitates plasma hotspot formation in the hull, creating an internal heat engine to provide hot expansion air to the main propulsion plenum of the craft.

a giant hot air balloon with a compact nuclear power supply generating RF radiation on internally reflective surfaces (glitter doped fabric, lol) which then provide the ability to create a thermally warm interior which can also be used as a simple heat pump to provide station keeping propulsion, and in the upper atmosphere, decent propulsion to offset the jetstream at lower altitudes.

the newer variants of the PSVs are slightly more of a hardshell design with updated hybrid compact fusion and hyperbrisant hydrocarbons as auxiliary/backup power should there be a problem with the little nuke plant onboard. total weight around 120 pounds. super compact design. the CFR onboard powers the LIPC, SASER, ISR sensor packages, and other onboard needs for comms, magnetic propulsion, etc...

no one cares.
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>>16921655
>Goodyear Inflatoplane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3z7vurJQY

super cheap way to access a HAPS. JP aerospace is going the right direction.
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>>16921673
Wouldn’t these things be tracked by radar/imaging satellites like no body’s business?
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>>16921720
so gimme a second to go check on the newest updates to the Boeing Metamaterials facility being built down the street, which I posted about above... bbiab.
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>>16921739
>>16921720

https://www.boeing.com/features/2026/02/boeing-defense-space-and-security-headquarters-returns-to-st-louis

well hey, look at that. exactly what I said was going to happen 3 weeks ago happened last week.

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=131264#assets_20295_131264-117

amd I keep blathering to you fucking tinfoil hat dimwits that St Louis is the place to keep an eye on with the next gen airframes, both terrestrial, high altitude via HAPS, new long duration ATO type spaceplanes, alongside new metamaterials coatings to hide the signatures anon asks about. this isn't even super top secret shit, everyone in StL knows that Phantom Works just got a pile of cash to do cool shit, and the earth moving equipment in Earth City is ramping up. fuck man, when I go on bike rides, all I see are truckloads of equipment for Boeing, earth moving, new CNC machines delivered to third-party suppliers for Boeing, all the GKN cnc machinists getting new gigs. I will never not tell people to come to St Louis.

if you guys actually like black projects which actually fly instead of the sit-on-the-shelf-forever shit, move to St Louis, get a job, get a clearance, keep your yapper shut, and do cool work.
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>>16921746
glowie news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSmhlvGD6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osqaMWz0KAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHJHOzPXdfc
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>>16910673
None of this makes any sense or has any relation on how a digital computer works in the real world. Go find lecture notes for a basic circuits class then once you understand those do the same for a logic design class until you can build an ALU yourself.
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>>16912139
This guy is a resident schizo from /k/. idk why he's on /sci/ today but this is the usual quality you can expect
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>>16922342
>basic circuits
>an ALU
what the fuck makes you think these computations are anywhere near the fuckboy faggot video game shit. there are no logic operations in there anywhere you fuckin scrub. this is basic circuits for high speed analog to digital conversion you fuckin dimwit. I came into this thread fingers crossed that some other people would post something valuable. nope, just an endless stream of turbo stupid retards, short the 2 anons above who could carry a conversation about basic signal processing, especially the frontend design. why the fuck did I even write this?

fuck this shit, time to get stoned and shoot craps.
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more information on specific patents

https://thephillypi.com/lasers-unlocking-negative-energy-spaces-insiders-say-the-tech-is-already-in-play/
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>>16922347
Okay, tell em what is so retarded about it then?
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>>16921626
We did indeed build a nuclear reactor for a plane, and even flew it around in a plane...but it was not powering the plane.
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>>16923367
>Dugway Zapper
LMAO, this really has made it out way further into the wild than I ever expected. Unironically I am already familiar with these patents, and they do indeed seems to indicate that they can store positronium for days at a time in cryovac containment. There is another interesting one from Raytheon.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6576916
>perturbing the PBG structure such that the index of refraction contrast, the geometry, the spacing, and/or the shape of the constituent components changes in such a way as to shift or turn off the bandgap that is responsible for maintaining the positronium in an excited state to thereby release the gamma ray radiation.
>Still further in accordance with the present invention, a beam of species is provided, comprising excited electrically neutral atoms or molecules of antimatter or exotic matter emitted by the PBG structure above, where each PGB cavity contains a quantity of the species. The beam comprises the species channeled out of the PBG structure into a desired direction by opened linear defect waveguides in the PBG structure.
>Finally, a particle beam is provided, comprising electrically charged antimatter emitted by the PBG structure. Each PBG cavity contains a quantity of excited electrically neutral atoms or molecules of antimatter or exotic matter, which are then ionized by an electric field, producing positively and negatively charged ions. In the case of positronium, this separates each positronium atom into its constituent positron and electron. Electric and magnetic fields are used to direct the ions or antimatter and/or normal matter out of the PBG device and into the desired direction.
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