china growing rarger editionprevious >>16907921
>>16910692we need more junk in MEO
Cancel Gateway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7Ethread theme song
>>16910693>that catch tower awkwardly emerging into frame as the rocket misses it entirelydon't you ever dare say the chinese don't have a sense of humor
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2021673886157607383
>>16910700>join (AI company) if (thing completely unrelated to AI) appeals to youelon and his companies are going schizo and developing DID
>>16910700>>16910701yeah that doesnt make me want to work for xAI at all. it would've been appealing if he said something like "Join xAI if you want to work on hard problems that are literally out of this world."
WTF I hate Mars now?!
>>16910340It's>2026 Unmanned LEO Capsule >2027 Manned LEO Capsule, Unmanned Lunar lander landing demo>2028 Unmanned LLO Capsule, Manned LLO Capsule>2029 Manned Lunar landing (Lander+Capsule)
Which AI company is building space elevator, maybe I will join that one.
I knew Mars was a waste of time this whole time, the plan was always Starship-Starlink and factories on the Moon. Musk was honest about this back in 2020. Mars was never really the focus
>>16910707Starshit is fucking retarded for moon.
>>16910707lol
IT'S UP!!!!!!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-FkE7Siafw
>>16910712Whoa! Another CGI render I better put all my money in Elon STAT!
>>16910712>SOLAR FREAKIN AI DATA CENTERS
>>16910714Holy shit bros it's happening!!!!!! Another CGI render Elon is definitely going to keep his promise this time and it's not going to be another fantasy lie that never happens! This is EPIC FOR THE WIN! WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON!!!!!
>>16910712>>16910714a mass driver that bigyea okay not in elon's lifetime. not even in spacex's lifetime. probably not even in america's lifetime.
here comes another chinese earthquake
https://youtu.be/0qo78R_yYFAI liked this render more.
So what’s your sentiment anon?Are things moving in the right direction? Is this a sustainable and based development?Or have we somehow entered the mirror universe and elon is just smoking crack at this point?I literally can not tell and the general sentiment seems to be apathetic or at least 50/50
>>16910722Moving from one sci fi thing to another is not sustainable.
I've been occasionally coming into these threads for years saying how retarded going to Mars was, ever since >>16910721this stupid shit came out almost a fucking decade ago. and it only took Elon's retarded ass 10 fucking years to finally wake up and realize, whoa, going to mars is not feasible in any way, and that the moon is actually a realistic focus even though elon's own plans for the moon are full on retarded wishcasting bullshit.if this retard had focused on the moon just using his already existing, successful rocket systems (Falcon 9 / heavy) they might have already been able to send a mission there, or at least a flyby in orbit of the moon and back by now. Fucking idiot. There's a reason I called people Marstards, Mars was always the most retarded objective to send humans to when we've already successfully sent robotic missions for decades now, and the only reason to even go to Mars is for scientific research and sampling / searching for signs of life outside of Earth. That should be the goal, continuing to send robotic missions to Mars, to collect samples, and then either study them on Mars with the robots or somehow get the samples back to Earth for study. Oh wait, we already cancelled mars sample return because the fuckwits at NASA are so fucking incompetent.
>>16910722At least it gives a theoretical reason for why you'd even want to dick around on the moon, otherwise it's just Antarctica 2. I also just like the idea that one of the first things that people do on the moon is make a bunch of AI porn servers, it's just funny and I like funny things
>>16910712>Light of Consciousness So fucking sick of this phrase
>>16910726They have sent missions to the moon with Falcon, it was just other people's stuff
>>16910726It's not retarded because Mars is the second place best for humans after Earth in the solar system.
>>16910728The darkness of self-awareness, on a galactic scale. Wherever we go in the cosmos, we must suffer. It would have been better not to exist at all, but at least we can take revenge against the universe before we go down
>>16910722This is an acknowledgment that SpaceX and Starship are years behind schedule when it comes to the stated Mars related goals. That said, the Moon probably should have been the primary focus from the start, as it offers a more practical way to develop and refine the necessary technologies. Instead, valuable time and resources have been diverted into other shit. Personally, I'll be willing to forgive the current AI GRIFT (it is) if SpaceX demonstrates rapid and meaningful success with lunar missions.
>>16910733Nothing was diverted to Mars missions because they haven't developed anything for it.
>ars commenters hate american spaceflight but love chinese spaceflightexplain
>>16910736Bolsheviks are retarded and inexplicably hate all good things, more news at 8
>>16910731It's 100% retarded. The best place for humans to live is Earth, and we can you know, just stop fucking up this planet and continue to live in a literal paradise that we are adapted to live in You cannot breathe the air on Mars.The vast majority of the surface is colder than the coldest temperature ever recorded on Earth at all times, only a very small part of the surface is seasonally at a temperature that humans can survive in. There is no magnetic field, you would need radiation shielding or live deep underground It's a 3+ month journey just to get there, and the window to leave from Earth is what, every 2 years? Otherwise it's not feasible to launch anything since the journey would take too long. Dust storms that can cover the entire planet and last for months with massive wind gusts making living on the surface even more treacherous as it will drop the temperatures even lower than they already are. Why would we waste any time and money transporting a bunch of meat bags that need all these special conditions and supplies just to survive to a place that we just barely can survive on in sealed habitats? It's wasteful and stupid. Humanity doesn't gain shit from Mars, you put some people on there and they are still entirely dependent on Earth for survival as the conditions on Mars are not going to change, it's not going to get a temperate climate, it's not going to get an oxygenated atmosphere you can breathe, it's not going to suddenly develop a solid internal core and liquid outer core that spins giving it a magnetic field, it's not going to suddenly develop organic soils that you can grow Earth based crops in. It's complete and utter delusion, anything on Mars is completely dependent on Earth, so if Earth goes to shit so does Mars, so why not just protect and repair Earth first instead of putting resources in a pointless endeavor?Send robots. Send probes. Return soil and rock samples from Mars so we can study them and look for fossils and life
>>16910739Not reading all that sorry to hear you suffer from homosexual tendencies
>>16910740It's ok Elonsimp, we already know you can't read.
>>16910700>>16910701>>16910702"Join SpaceX if the idea of making AI appeals to you"
>>16910700Now that Mars colonization is dead, is a mass driver on the Moon the new grand philanthropic vision he's going to use to dupe idealistic engineers into working long hours for him without commensurate pay?
>>16910712>extend the light of grok to the stars and von neumann probing the galaxy
>>16910714Unironically a weapon of mass destruction that will likely be severely restricted or outright banned by treaty
>>16910700Jesus. This is what SpaceX has been reduced to.I'm more embarrassed by the day to have been a fanboy and supporter. Dying inside hearing a series of lies like this and following the scam road towards failure. This drives a man to drink
>>16910746Is that actually going to work anymore? I doubt the people who joined spacex because of mars are currently very happy.
>>16910722I like it. It means there's an actual commercial reason to be developing space, rather than just building a Mars base for fun
>>16910739>There is no magnetic field, you would need radiation shieldingOpinion discarded I suppose I shouldn't expect any better from an Earther
>>16910751How is burning spacex money on AI any different from burning spacex money for Mars?
>>16910739Earth doesn't need fixing, it's fine as it is.I know Mars is difficult but we have to expand beyond Earth sooner or later.
>>16910753Because it brings other companies along for the ride, and when everyone is burning money together, that's called an economy.
>>16910753Mars is a real place, AI is absolute bullshitthats the fucking difference
Maybe moon AI will fix starship.
>>16910750He's evidently going to try
>>16910712>>16910714Musk is the forcing function to get humanity off the rock
>>16910736Modern leftists have embraced commnism
>>16910746>Now that Mars colonization is dead
>>16910739>1 planet good>2 planet badThe glory of Earth must spread
>>16910736They dislike the US government and its space contractors but have a neutral opinion of the Chinese government and its space contractors
>>16910701AI in space, dude!1.5 trillion IPO here we come!
>>16910722if you take all of elon's companies in aggregate, i think elon is trying to move us towards a Culture-like scenario instead of a Terminator one. for the space portion of it... i want mars more than the moon, but i'll take the moon over 40 more years of LEO.>Is this a sustainable and based development?who knows if lunar data center railguns will pan out, but i definitely think the moon is looking sustainable even without them. the US has been pivoting towards the moon since Bush Jr., and both blue origin and china are making serious progress towards the moon too. three major players focusing on the moon is making it look like it will be the next hotbed of activity even if spacex gets to mars, so thats where alot of money will be, and mars is going to need money.
damn people are retarded
https://x.com/robert_zubrin/status/2021697326906274166https://mailchi.mp/marssociety/2022convention-14564924?e=66242eccde>We are carbon-based life forms. We are made of carbon compounds, as is everything we eat or wear, and most of the things that we use. There is no carbon on the Moon. The other essential components of life are water and nitrogen. Aside from ice trapped in ultracold (–230°C), permanently shadowed craters near the lunar south pole, water exists on the Moon only in parts-per-million concentrations within the regolith. Nitrogen is effectively absent, as are concentrated mineral ores.
>>16910776zubrin keeps bringing up that musk is rich like every other sentence
>>16910776Wtf I’m pro-Moon now!
>>16910776starship can bring coal to the moon
>>16910777At this point, just get on your knees and worship the almighty dollaror whatever currency you fancyit really was just about money the entire timewe will NEVER have nice things. Just do drugs, get fat, play video games, don't reproduce, die young and leave it to the jeetsIts the Elon way, now its crystal clear, ever since he embraced Judaism everything changed
>>16910785He's got like 11 kids
>>16910785Musk isn't obsessed with money, its just a tool
>>16910714AIEOUJOHN MADDEN
>>16910788don't you understand yet?the neo-caste system is hereits based on jeet code and chink social credit(YOU) are in the lowest tier! who could have predicted that?Sorry but your comment is hidden and you will have to work harder for foodthis is what you wanted
>>16910712i just realized that railgun factory or whatever is probably around the length of the trans-siberian railway, which was built in 15 years. the mass of the railway is 50+ million tons though. it would take spacex forever to move that much mass to the moon.
>>16910796it doesn't need to be like in the pictureshorter rail just means higher accelerations and more peak power, so I guess it restricts what types of payloads can be sent up (at first small and dumb relatively speaking)
>>16910776>water exists on the Moon only in parts-per-million concentrationsevery ship that arrives at the moon will be carrying water, and a tank full of piss, and big bags of water called humans, there will be a steady inflow of water to the colony
>>16910776Fucking retard, the moon isn't for living on, it's a launchpad for everything else in the solar system where launching vehicles from the surface to escape the gravity well is simple as fuck to do.You have to set up the infrastructure on the moon to launch missions to the other planets in our solar system, and it's much easier to do that since it's a short journey from Earth, still you have to launch everything from Earth first, and then stockpile it all on the moon, and then build new rockets and shit on the moon to launch to the other planets / moons in our own solar system, that's what it should be used for, not survival of humanity. Humanity survives on Earth, it's that simple. Mars is a retarded place to live too. The moon still has water and it's lack of atmosphere doesn't matter since you can't breathe the air on Mars either. Both have low gravity too, the moon less but living on the moon won't be that much different from Mars. You still have to live underground in a sealed environment, much like on Mars.
>>16910792>this is what you wantedIf it takes place in space, yes.A caste based dystopia on Mars sounds great and kino
>>16910796Lmao that's just a slop picture, don't take it seriously.A mass driver is very much shorter than that, a few km for lunar velocities
>>16910700>>16910712>>16910714i havent been following /sfg/ for a while, have things really gotten this bad? is there really no hope now that elon wants to graft the ai grift onto spacex for no reason? IPOing and exposing the company to the retarded whims of wall street is bad enoughplease tell me theres something to actually look forward to, i dont want to doom
>>16910803>the moon isn't for living onBut I want to live there so I can wake up in the morning and bounce-walk my way to the kitchen to make my coffee. The moon would be the perfect place to retire to.>>16910812Check the vibe again after the next IFT.
>>16910812You can look forward to cheap access to LEO I'm not dooming. Getting to LEO is halfway to anywhere.
https://spacenews.com/spacex-ipo-may-suck-oxygen-from-market-before-unleashing-broad-capital-surge/>TAMPA, Fla. — Space investors and dealmakers anticipate SpaceX’s planned initial public offering (IPO) this year will trigger a surge of capital across the industry, but not without the risk of pulling investor attention away from other companies in the run-up.
>>16910714>Moonbace AlphaAYO HOL UP
>>16910818Bro how can you not know that's what NASA has called the first moon base in its concept studies for decadesaeiou
>>16910817money isn't even real
>>16910823How did a MMT poster get in here
>>16910827is it good or bad I don't know what that is
>>16910829https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory just print the money bro, it isn't real
https://x.com/AnthroFuturism/status/2017102045820416492
>>16910776>We are carbon-based life formsWe also fucking decay after a few decadesApollo project for longevity and we could have the ultimate prize in short order, rather than some rockets on TV everyone gets bored of after a couple of years>noooo dah overpopulation and dah penshun fundsYour mind is enslaved
I am immune to space propaganda
I don't know why you pinheads thought we were ever going directly to mars in a fleet of tiny rocketships and set up a hippie commune when we get thereOf course we'll industrialize the Earth-Moon system first. After that will come a real organic demand for expansion to Mars.
realistically, who gets a base on the moon first? china or nasa?
>>16910843
>>16910850nasa
>>16910852we really knew how to design pants back then
>>16910861If you bother to work out the delta-v requirements you'll see that it doesn't work that wayThe Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is not a scientific publication.
>>16910805Okay but imagine how powerful a mass driver that large could be.
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2021755308344062416>The state commission has allowed the fueling of Proton-M. Less than 8 hours left until the first Proton-M launch since 2023. If there will be a YouTube stream, I will post it, but here's a link to the live stream on VK:https://vkvideo.ru/video-30315369_456244619It'll also be restreamed on International Rocket Launcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbuUgoUx_WQLaunch in T-7:20:00
good luck proton
>>16910889Shame. It really is a sexy rocket. Will be sad when it’s said and done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwiBFPB0VgsOfficial Roscosmos stream, goes live in 5 hours
>>16910714reminds me of a short story by Clarke I read ages ago, Maelstrom II. The accelerator malfunctions and the capsule with a single colonist is on a trajectory into a mountain range.
Guys this is bad. Elon should NOT be allowed to destroy the sky every sunset and sunrise
>>16910911
>>16910911I don't see these people complaining about how skies pre industrial revolution used to be much bluer and more cloudy, or that sunsets and sunrises are much redder than they used to be
>>16910923what?im 99% sure these people are the degrowth environmentalist types
>>16910923?I'm sure they bitch about air/light pollution all the time
>>16910776This is ironic coming from Zubrin. A man who quite literally abandoned Mars for ukraino-covid brainrot
>>16910712>>16910714>>16910715LMAO
>>16910816>I'm not dooming. Getting to LEO is halfway to anywhere.you already said that for falcon 9!
man, common sense isn't that common in the mids of most spaceflight enthusiasts, is it?>going to the moon and then colonizing mars is NOT a bad idea!!1!>mom, someone in my spechul sekrit forum is contradicting me!!1 bawwlmao. get serious. you can love the idea of spaceflight without having to colonize shit, at least until we have good conditions, like tech and knowledge of things.
>>16910923how many people born before the industrial revolution are still alive?
>>16910953every single once of us. what we think of the I.R. is paltry to what Elon Musk's Optimus robots and AI factories will provide to us
Will China win in the end?
10 days till ria's back in 3Dg'night /sfg/
>>16910964>AI factories
>>16910967you will consume AI content and you'll like it. meanwhile, please select two stars with five spikes
>>16910911Someone's going to eventually. Why delay the inevitable?
SSO constellation godbrain eventually becomes a solid orbital ring of computronium
>>16910904Vulcan USSF-87 launches after this Roscosmos launchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFw6xy2zGCo
>>16910715>>16910722thunderchad wonI hate him and he was wrong most of the time but HE FUCKING WON
>>16910751>an actual commercial reasonclaiming a commercial reason exists is not the same as having a commercial reason. this whole thing is just Elon bailing himself out.
>>16910753Because it's going to be the extended brain of the global autonomous car and optimus fleets. The compute layer isn't (just) a slop generator it'll be constantly running AI-generated scenarios to train the AI of the robots that will replace most of the labor force.
>>16910726>ITS was ten years agoFuck...
>>16910996That's what Elon means by extending the light of consciousness
>>16910996Ah yes, chatbots will run the world.
>>16911003Chatbots are conscious. That's what Elon believes now.
>>16910965Yes because they are keeping their data centers on earth.
>>16911006As long as we can get a chat bot running locally on Mars, we will have achieved our goal
>>16911009https://www.space.com/space-exploration/satellites/china-joins-race-to-develop-space-based-data-centers-with-5-year-plan
>>16910714Brb, gotta fap ....
Vulcan launching in 5 minutes
>>16911036when is it landing?
liftoff
>>16910799So why does Musk say "self-sustaining city on the Moon" is he lying or is he retarded?
why was it sparking?
GEMs indeed, XL
>>16911040I think one of the SRBs may have had an "observation" again, kek. They really need to get on NorGrum's case about that if so.
>>16911010I thought this was Anita for a second
>>16911039He didn't say self sustaining He said self growing
>>16911040Another observation, say goodbye to Vulcan USSF launches for this semester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGLoTjxd-Ss
>>16911058Okay my bad. He said something even more ambitious.
dude
>solid state booster
It's all nominal Surprising they didn't have it explode yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlwGJMpGRvE>"Booster 19: Don't call it a comeback..." | SpaceX Starbase
>>16910831>you need moon mass driver for orbital brilliant pebble the guy doesn't know starlinks exist?
SpaceX is working to build a superweapon on the moon and you're blackpilling?
>>16910655Why do so many people think the government paying a company to do something is a subsidy?
>>16910796>it would take spacex forever to move that much mass to the moonThat's the beauty of it. You BUILD it on the Moon
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2021874478251221014>Successful launch of Proton-M rocket with Electro-L №5 meteorological satellite! Block DM-03 upper stage with the payloads is now on its way to the geostationary orbit. This was the last launch of Proton-M with Block DM-03 upper stage. Next launches will use Briz-M.
https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/2021875210098725354>China Rocket successfully launched Pakistani PRSC-E02 Earth observation satellite on its Smart Dragon (Jielong) 3 rocket from a sea launch platform in the Yellow Sea, east China Shandong Province.
https://x.com/DutchSpace/status/2021882440197747029>Looks like ULA's Vulcan had another observation on it's SRBs. However staging and the rest of the flight seemed nominal...
>>16911139Aren't those the same GEMs they used on Atlas V?What's going on, were they just in storage for too many years? Does Vulcan shake them to pieces?
>>16911144They're not quite the same. The 63XLs are a new design and have a bit more propellant and a lot more chamber pressure to give them higher thrust. There's some speculation that the nozzles use too much prior art from the base GEM-63 and the increased pressure is causing issues.
>>16911119Build from what? Moon rock?
>>16911149yes
Up next: Ariane 64 in T-4:30:00https://x.com/Arianespace/status/2021911979753947385The mobile gantry has been rolled back at Europe’s Spaceport in French Guiana, revealing Ariane 6 on the launch pad ahead of mission VA267. This operation marks a final milestone in the countdown, clearing the launcher for launch and enabling final checks before liftoff. With mission VA267, Arianespace will deploy 32 Amazon Leo satellites, Amazon’s low Earth orbit satellite network whose mission is to deliver fast, reliable internet to customers beyond the reach of existing networks. This flight will be the first European launch for Amazon Leo of 18 Ariane 6 missions contracted to support its constellation rollout. With the mobile gantry removed, Ariane 6, in its Ariane 64 configuration, stands ready to perform its mission that contributes directly to support our customers’ most ambitious missions. Official Arianespace streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUr3ygqFkAYSpaceflight Nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtF4LPNv5wkInternational Rocket Launcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPKI_Joi8-0
>>16911129Wouldn't be a proper Chinese launch without rocket confetti
>spacex takes up all the ai data center orbitshow do other companies compete then? do they beam solar power to their satellites which wont have access to 24/7 solar like spacex? do they sue the government to force spacex to let them in on 24/7 solar? what about other countries? does europe put tariffs on grok? does china just forcibly insert their satellites even if it destroys spacex satellites?this is prime real estate and spacex is going to hog it all
lolSRBsin 2026
>>16910739imagine seething this much
>>16911155its like all that red paper you get after launching a chinese firecracker roll. new year is coming up.
>>16911149Aluminum.
https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2021686901208756662
>>16911199People are pissed off about data centers because they drive up electricity prices. The solution is obvious and it's to build more generation capacity faster.If he is a serious AI believer he should put the pedal to the metal on earth based data centers and lift it only when Starship becomes capable of rapid reuse, because it's not like that can be accurately predicted.
Did the snake Tory Bruno know that Vulcan was fucked when he randomly quit to go accept a lesser position at Poo Origin?
>>16911206but Musk is putting the petal to the metal on terrestrial data centers as well
>>16911059small indie company, plz understand space iz hard
>>16911207Well ULA has no future and he probably saw the writing on the wall when no one was interested in buying ULA.
>>16911222ULA is only worth their contracts.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how over is it
>>16911228-10
>>16911228It's not over til it's over, over
>>16911059>>16911044I can't believe it happened AGAIN
>>16911206>>16911208https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXbuik3dgAThe first half hour of this interview is pretty enlightening for Elon's thoughts on energy. This is not a decision made lightly. US generation buildout cannot keep up with datacenter demand due to solar tariffs and gas turbine blade manufacturing backlog (till '27), not to mention permitting and rapidly increasing NIMBYism. The entire tech industry is hitting the same wall. Tesla's solution is taking on the limiting factors in the domestic solar cell supply chain like they have with batteries and lithium refining, and possibly a foray into gas turbine blade production, but a parallel effort by SpaceX to get inference compute in space is a logical bet since costs are breakeven with ground-based inference in 3 years, and after that will be cheaper in space. Solar manufacturing costs continue to plummet, and panels are actually cheaper in space since they don't need to be weather-ruggedized and SSO nodes will not need batteries (or at least not big ones).
>>16910693Congratulations to China! We shall accelerate launch together!
>>16911249i think everyone who keeps up with spaceflight is now onboard with the ai data center meme. we just need spacex to unfuck starship.
>>16911249It might take years to build more energy plants on earth, but how many years would it take to make AI data center in space a reality? I would argue that even starship is not capable enough to make that a reality.
>>16911258Solar is already the cheapest form of power, and putting it in space is 3x+ to its efficiencyIt's probably easier to launch it into orbit than it is to buy land & deal with permits
>>16911258>I would argue that even starship is not capable enough to make that a realityAnd you're correct to think that, which is why Elon keeps talking about mass drivers on the Moon. Starship alone, even at scale, is not capable of launching a million satellites from Earth. Cargo Starship (eventually) will be capable of landing 200 tons to the Moon's surface, which done at scale can build out the infrastructure needed for lunar satellite manufacturing and mass drivers. The chips will still be made on Earth for a long while.The only way Starship works is high flight rate. It's likely Elon did not see Starlink alone as able to deliver that high flight rate, especially since V3 Starlink are kinda huge, even fewer fit in Starship than the much smaller V1s or V2s. So one near term solution is shit-tons of refuel flights for lunar cargo missions.
>>16911152https://x.com/andrewparsonson/status/2021989399341527254?s=46&t=4i240TMN9BFmGRKFS4WP1ANice launch!
>>169112287-8Bezos is unironically more promising than Musk. I always coped by the fact that SpaceX was always segmented away from the scam companies. The idea was that Musk ran those scam companies to raise money for the real company (SpaceX). Now SpaceX is literally acquiring a Musk scam company under the premise that now SpaceX will do a retarded scam project. I guess it really was just all about money all along.
Croix de Korolev
>>16911273Aryan Cross.
>>16911271orthey were never scam companies and in fact Musk is as competent in these other areas as he is in space, the real paradigm shifts haven't just been shown yetrobotaxi scaling is very close, in a year or two you will be saying it was obvious all along
>>16911199>SpaceX’s Starlink cash engine is the answer. Mach33-modeled SpaceX FCF ramps from ~$7.5B in 2026 to ~$99B by 2030. That growth creates more than enough headroom to fund xAI’s near-term terrestrial needs.>The presumed ~$50B IPO is sized to accelerate Starship scale-up and V3 Starlink deployment, while still leaving ample cushion for xAI capex. Ring-fenced leasing and partner structures push compute spend off-balance-sheet.
>>16910731The second best place for humans is the Moon, because it's close to Earth. Other than that, both the Moon and Mars are equal in terms of possible habitation
>>16911279>everything hinges on starshiphere we go again. everyone is waiting for starship but they've slowed down testing so much that everyone is moving on to other things.
>>16911280gravity though. 1/3rd is going to prove a lot better than 1/6th for long term habitation.
>>16911280>>16911282venus is better than either
>>16911277>in a year or two you will be saying it was obvious all alongno I wont because it wont happen. LEO space telecom was always viable, many companies attempted this in the dot com bubble, but none had the capital to do it without going bankrupt. Putting the relays in space has the simple advantage that you are above the curvature of the Earths surface so need fewer relays. As much as people (rightly) hate what oldspace has become, they used to be pretty dynamic and tried everything that was viable. space telecom sats have been going up since the dawn of commercial space missions.Where is the advantage in space data centers versus terrestrial data centers?
>>16911281Well done bait, but bait none the less. 2025 was a lost year for Starship because of inadequate testing; they found the point where moving fast and breaking things is slower than making sure you're doing it right. SpaceX does not want to repeat that.
>>16911249It's REALLY telling for the state of western economies that everything Elon Musk wants to do is better if they do it inhouse
>>16911288>Where is the advantage in space data centers versus terrestrial data centers?free energy, free cooling, free space, no law, no luddites.
>>16911288the ability to keep scaling without worrying about permits, land, power or wateryou create a factory and start pumping out identical sats (the permit, land and power requirements of the factory being a fraction of deploying similar compute on the earth)the limiting factor becomes launch capacity
>>16911282If you want someone to be born and live a life just as long and productive as on Earth you're gonna need 1g. So they're both equally shit
>>16911293>It's REALLY telling for the state of western economies that everything Elon Musk wants to do is better if they do it inhouseThe things he wants to do usually involve things that others are doing really bad. This is why Tesla wants to stop making ordinary EV cars. Or why there won't be a turbojet engine from SpaceX. Or xAI phone.
>>16911296and how many starships would it take to ship enough material to build those factories or that mass driver?
>>16911271I'll care about BO when their flight rate is half of the current F9
>>16911295>free energymay I see it?>free coolingmay I see it?
>>16911271Idk tesla has always been the main scam companyThe smaller scam companies have a history of getting absorbed already with solar cityI'm inclined to say AI really does change the calculus and can make the long term goal of Mars colonisation more feasible, but it isn't without risk that they are going down this pathI wonder if internally they have sufficient evidence that AI simply can't be made more energy efficient. It it was, the space based compute would be mostly worthless for the time being
>>16911293why is that telling? it's only cheaper to do in house because of tariffs lol
>>16911295>free coolingBait
>>16911296If you really think satelites will be being fabrricated in a factory on the moon within our lifetimes you are on some hardcore hopium.
>>16911300hundreds to thousands, but the mass driver thing is something quite a bit later after there is already a high cadenceits the next step to scaling the orbital datacenter after earth launch capacity beomes saturate, not a near term thingyou can and should start doing research on the moon towards that much earlier than you actually start building factories and a mass driver
>>16911245there is another tracking shot that showed an enormous amount of undesired roll due to the SRB nozzle failure. We'll never hear about it, but this was shockingly close to a total disaster.
>>16911304>tesla has always been the main scam companytrue. and my view was that Tesla existed to rob silicon valley tech bros in order to fund SpaceX.
>>16911304Tesla is like the least scam companyYou can go out an buy an EV today, get FSD even.
>>16911307the moon thing will come later, first you just do the same thing as you have done with starlinks but with AI inference sats which will initially be based on the V3 starlink busthen you do specially data center optimized satellites and then quite a bit later you need to start building the factory on the moonthe moon factory is a very long term thing, probably like 10 years out at leastinitial AI inference sats launched from earth could happen in 2-3 years
>>16911288I work for a US utility company, in a relatively modern part of the grid, and we are legitimately not up to the task of supplying enough energy for any of these AI datacenters. Think of us like Boeing but lazier. We're at the point where we are afraid to take out more loans because rates will skyrocket and we'll go into a debt spiral. Therefore we are relying on datacenters to do the generation buildout behind the meter and can no longer guarantee the customers competitive rates. The only thing we're good for now is building substations and load balancing. We dont even own the batteries lol
>>16911284ok, you take venus i'll take mars.>>16911298we really dont know that yet.
>>16911311The cars dont even run and they literally cannot drive without a person in the front seat. you fell for ai video slop. This post is ragebait
>>16911304none of the companies are scams
>>16911306free as in just send more radiator masseverything is solved with more mass
>>16911319You don't need "radiators"everything radiates...
>>16911320true, best part is no part
>>16911317https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03e5ixbXIa4wrong, its starting to scale slowly
>>16911324found the ai grokbot. /sf/g is infested
>>16911320everything radiates, some materials radiate better than others and conduct heat better than others and more surface area radiates moremore surface area is solved most simply by just more mass
What even is the mission profile with starship to Moon? You can't reuse HLS without heat shield.
>>16911327>You can't reuse HLS without heat shield.You fly HLS back up to lunar orbit, dock with Orion and ride that home.
>>16911329Yes, but that's for carrying humans and not huge amount of cargo.
>>16911326Yea but thats your solar panels and just operating things a little hotterMaybe heat pumping
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/2021999414915875290
>>16911327>You can't reuse HLS without heat shield.Forget heat shield. Even with the starship heat shield installed it would not survive Earth entry at lunar return velocity.
>>16911327Cargo HLS never needs to return to Earth
https://research.33fg.com/analysis/debunking-the-cooling-constraint-in-space-data-centers>The key point is that radiators grow from a secondary to a meaningful subsystem, but they do not dominate the mass budget. Most of the mass increase associated with moving from 20 kW to 100 kW comes from scaling power generation not from thermal physics becoming prohibitive.
https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/2021256989876109403
All the arguing is silly. Whatever is most economical/practical regardless of your intuition or priors, will happen. The end
The last Proton/DM-03
>>16911344All I'm seeing is AI shit stagnating and people having trouble finding purpose for it.
>>16911024I just used Kimi k2.5 to vibe code a project. With less than an hour and <$1 of API credits I got a basic version up and running. It's way better than paying for Claude code.
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2021969542155563486>And here is the third burn of Block DM-03, which would place the upper stage & payload into the geostationary orbit. Separation of Elektro-L №5 satellite is expected within the next few minutes.
>>16911284too damn hot and we need to remove the atmosphere
>>16911350ignorance is bliss. god help the normies
>>16911206>The solution is obvious and it's to build more generation capacity faste5+ year permitting process just for basic facilities
>If you've ever wanted to build something but didn't have the technical skills or the money to hire someone, that barrier is largely gone. Literally me xdNow i don't have to learn to code !
>>16911358And like 20+ years for a new nuclear design + permit to START building
>>16911360what if i want to passively build wealth
>>16911167you can put ai satellites in any orbit, doesn't need to be a terminator line SSO.elon said this himself you just go high enough and the occultation time becomes negligible.and you don't need very low latency for chatbot slop or inference for training purposes which is the majority of compute.
Was watching some old fuck get shown how to use a touch screen ordering panel at costcoI assume thats how all our rich people & politicians are like
>>16911360Idea guys rise up
>>16911363just ask your claude swarm to do it. wake up in the morning, a millionaire
>>16911368lazy idea guys will inherit the earth
>>16911358Everywhere? Pretty sure Tesla or SpaceX stuff in Texas goes up pretty fast. Like the lithium refinery.
>>16911382Neither of those are power generating facilities.
>>169113835+ years for commercial solar / batteries?
>almost spun out of control
>>16911384You gotta understand that Elon actually believes in 5 years there will be like 100x the current demand for compute.
>>16911386some ksp shit lmao
>>16911382Those have been in the pipeline for years.If you wanted an industrial facility right now, it's 3 years at best before you can start to work on it. Once, you factor permitting and capital goods backlogThis isn't excusive to DCs or power generation but the speed at which the 1st world operates when it comes to anything outside of real-estate is stroke inducing.There is a reason China outpaces everyone and it has little to do with labor cost. US society is extremely hostile to industrial development.
>>16911386THIS IS WHY YOU TEST
>>16910739>it's not going to get a temperate climate, it's not going to get an oxygenated atmosphere you can breathe, it's not going to suddenly develop a solid internal core and liquid outer core that spins giving it a magnetic field, Even if I'm generally skeptical about Mars colonization those points aren't really valid.Builiding a permanent outpost is possible and it will be done, we are going to learn a lot from it.Growing in numbers requires technology and energy, which makes it expensive and initially dependent from Earth.Becoming self sustaining isn't realistic with the current level of technology, but that level isn't static at all.
>>16911389>>16911392Just an observation, chud
>>16911395what is it with space companies and not fixing the fatal issue from the previous flight and launching anyway?did ULA become starship V2 pilled?
https://x.com/Arianespace/status/2022022624721686902>On February 12, 2026, with the first Ariane 64, the most powerful version of Ariane 6 equipped with four boosters, Arianespace placed into orbit 32 satellites for Amazon Leo. The VA267 mission kicks-off the first of a series of 18 Ariane 6 launches contracted by Amazon's Low Earth Orbit satellite network, whose mission is to deliver fast, reliable internet to customers beyond the reach of existing networks. It was the first launch for the constellation performed with a European launcher. With all satellites released as planned after a mission lasting 1 hours and 54 minutes, Arianespace demonstrates Ariane 6 in its Ariane 64 configuration, its full-power capability and its ability to meet the requirements of large-scale constellation deployments.
>>16911335N
1st time posting tourist here, was redirected from /g/ to this board which might be more appropriate for my question:how would one go about building a self-sustaining space colony? also, spaceships for long-term travelI've been researching this. I've read most of Atomic Rockets, asked AI, paged through Wikipedia, am currently reading through National Space Society. there are many options but I'd like to know your thoughts, maybe what solutions you prefer, and why, and how feasible they are.also if any of you want to throw me a rod instead of a fish, I'd appreciate links to other blogs or websites which have clear-cut practical solutions and discuss the pros and cons of eachat this moment, I like the idea of an O'Neil cylinder, but perhaps with more spartan fittings than is commonly picturedassume there is a need, and the budget is 10 trillion dollarsthanks in advance
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/2021990862486745413>ULA's comment on the "observation" (now "significant performance anomaly") seen on one of the Vulcan SRBs on this morning's launch:
>>16911405>how would one go about building a self-sustaining space colony?apparently rail guns lobbing ai data centers into earth orbit >>16910714
>>16911402https://x.com/Arianespace/status/2021992308024213934clip
>>16911407And here I was thinking that this TRF might not take as long as the 10-month one between Cert-2 and USSF-106. If they're actually going back to debris collection there's no way this is going to be a quick assessment. Vulcan is probably done for the year.
>>16911415>Vulcan is probably done foryou mean
>>16911405>O'Neil cylinderthat's really the only viable colony type if you think for a bit. Planetcucks are just deluded and ignore the flaws of their shitholes. AT BEST there will be research outposts on major bodies but certainly no cities.If you can build a colony on another planet, you can build a space habitat with far more benefits.
https://x.com/mickeywzx/status/2022017419347411272>Spotted USSF-87 two payloads as expected, and Centaur V upper stage near GEO slot 92°E. They arrived at around 2026-02-12 15:18 UTC. Soon after, Centaur V started fuel dumping and disposal maneuvering.
>>16911383https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis>xAI has been fighting for a year and a half over truck-sized gas turbines the company had parked near its Colossus 1 and 2 facilities>xAI took advantage of a local county loophole allowing the operation of generators without permits so long as the machines did not sit in one place for more than 364 days>At one point, up to 35 of these generators were powering Colossus 1. xAI eventually received permits for 15 turbines at Colossus 1 and is now operating 12 permitted machines at the sitelmao it's getting dire
(ai) satellite fabrication general
>>16911420we use the planets and moons (satellite planets) as mines to build colonies above them.
https://x.com/ashleevance/status/2021953624503656557
>>16911432>delayed shityeah nah call me when it launches. tired of the hype scams.
>>16911430>moonsI can see that happening, depending on the moon.>planetshighly doubtful, it would be more logical to use the industrial resources for asteroid mining instead. Any planetary endeavor apart from fags and footprints is just inefficient. There's also no need to chain the colonies to a gravity well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGBibC67i7k>Launch of first Ariane 6 with four boosters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozncDw2x4EM>Major Expansion of Starbase Approved + Key Flight 12 Testing Done! | Starbase Flyover Update 117
>>16911425This kind of shit was probably what redpilled him into shifting compute into space
>>16911441It says a lot that the power grid cannot supply even moderate increases in demand
>>16911439Its good to see the massive investment in infrastructure. Boring for the normie, but engineers take note: this stuff WILL get used, we just have to wait
>>16910698Hey idiotIt's intended to land in water, that's why it's called splash down testMost reusable rockets are first time tested this way
>>16911448>xe thinks I don't know thatunimplessive.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022037854336205025
>>16911456as always its "just wait a little longer!!!!1"
https://x.com/JoelSercel/status/1650966656724914177
>>16911456why does he bother with the lip service to his orbiters? is this the validation he needs to continue? a bunch of virtual jeets keep patting him on the back saying good job, sir
>>16911459https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/2021993217470673140
>>16911461https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022026590738075848
>>16911460two more weeks
>>16911460WE MUST MAKE HUMANITY MULTI-PLANETARY
>>16911459dude we cant even get our country fix our existing shitty infrastructure and there are midwits out here think building and maintaining a ringworld is easier than building a simple shanty town on the Moon?
>>16911480America literally destroyed most of our own cities in a single lifetime and these people think they can build a prosperous future lolThat Paul Graham seems like a liberal based on a quick glance at his twitterYou just know he would demand diversity quotas in space
>>16911480lol
>>16911460You're talking about a guy who bought accounts to pretend he's good at games.
>>16911459>and you can't get 1 g on MarsAt first I though he meant grams and was some kind of diss
>>16911480
https://www.vastspace.com/updates/vast-selected-by-nasa-for-sixth-private-astronaut-mission-to-international-space-stationVast’s first private astronaut mission launching summer of 2027. SpaceX will be the launch provider.>The Vast private astronaut mission crew is expected to spend up to 14 days aboard the space station.>The mission will generate invaluable insights into the infrastructure and processes required for Vast to safely accomplish human spaceflight missions. The mission supports deeper collaboration with NASA and international space agencies in addition to strengthening Vast’s position as a candidate to deliver its proposed successor to the space station, the multi-module, continuously crewed Haven-2.
>>16911496>>16911502>being able to see stars during the day
>>16911504OH NO NO NO AXIOMKEKS YOUR RESPONSE?
>>16911505It's a HDR camera you dumb retard
>>16911504I dont understand why Vast gets any credit for any of this at all.>not their space station>not their rocket or capsule or suitliterally what good are they? does spacex require you to find a middle man?
>>16911510i think you do get some credit for being able to put together a manned space mission. its alot of leg work.
>>16911504>>16911510lol it’s called blowing a lot of money to give yourself credibility. They’ll be bankrupt by 2030
>>16911514*the *optics* of credibilityI should say
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/2022061165917155629>Launch alert: our next mission will be a hypersonic test mission on HASTE from LC-2 in Virginia for the Defense Innovation Unit to deploy a scramjet-powered aircraft by Hypersonix Launch Systems. Launching NET late February.
>>16911437Why would the European government sell launches at a huge net loss, to an evil American company that does everything to abuse people for profit?This is a real question. What is the EU/ESA trying to accomplish with this? Does the nominal launch fee from Amazon really fund the ESA, or was this a gift from the European people to an abusive foreign company? To justify a rocket that has no market niche? Time for Europe to chime in and settle this
>>16911517pointy
>>16911517oh that's sexy
>>16911405please follow my step by step instructions:
>>16911520it has to justify its existence, probably losing money on it but they get subsidies just to exist from ESA I think
https://x.com/PirateWires/status/2022066075333239007>NEW IN PIRATE WIRES on the SpaceX merger: If you want more compute... leave Earth.>AI’s biggest chokepoint isn’t investment — it’s our ability to build. We’re limited by the chips we manufacture, the power we produce, and the bureaucratic bog that drags it all down.>The U.S. spent over $1.5 trillion on AI last year, and most of that went toward data centers. But energy growth has been flat for the last decade. Permitting a new power plant can take 4-7 years, and advanced AI chips are sold out until 2026. Meanwhile, some states are even proposing data center moratoriums.>Elon’s solution? Ascend to the stars.>SpaceX is already gearing up to build 10,000 rockets a year. Tesla is building a chip factory to produce AI hardware at scale. Solar panels in orbit can collect 13x the energy of those on the ground. And now that SpaceX has acquired xAI, >Elon is ready to put this theory to the test: >Can he combine the powers of Tesla, SpaceX, and xAI to build data centers in orbit?>This merger is an energy play, explains Ryan Hassan (@eventidia). It’s Elon’s bet that he can generate power in space faster than waiting for our glacial bureaucracy here on Earth. Full piece
>>16911544https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-spacex-merger-if-you-want-more
> From his 2011 angel investment in DeepMind (now Google’s AI lab), through cofounding OpenAI in 2015, to the creation of xAI in 2023, Elon has long believed artificial intelligence, if deployed at scale, will bring about a breakthrough for humanity. It will cure diseases (see: Neuralink), solve aging, help us better manage our grid… etc.
>>16911544are we just posting any random blog post now?
>>16911548Someone is, but honestly, It's not like our back and forth shitposting is intrinsically different or better. Less long winded, perhaps.
>>16911520>Why would the European government sell launches at a huge net lossI think you need to reconsider the economics. It would be a bigger annual loss in Ariane only few government payloads. ESA understood this many years ago. They did not have enough institutional payloads. So the cost of each flight would become extortionate. Flying commercial payloads would not cover the entire cost of each flight, but it would spread out the fixed costs over several flights per year instead of one. Massively reducing the subsidy needed. ArianeSpace and ESA will be quite happy that Ariane 6 is busy. A lot of people (wrongly) predicted it would have no commercial market. It doesn't fund ESA, but it does reduce their costs when using Ariane. And it also helps maintains European access to space.
>>16911548>>16911551Though to be honest you could summarize this entire damn mess >>16911546as:>Bureaucracy is slow and space doesn't have bureaucracy and that means space is a winner for AI because AI is a winnerPeople suck at engaging on anything AI related in depth.
The spinqueer's fear of a gravity well is generational trauma from the days of expendable launch vehicles
>>16911520>at a huge net lossStill hilarious that Ariane 6 ended up being as expensive, if not more, than Ariane 5.
>>16911557>Still hilarious that Ariane 6 ended up being as expensive, if not more, than Ariane 5.They took a page out of the Boeing government contract playbook to make more money. Ariane 6 did exactly what it was supposed to do: increase profit margins for an industry where it doesn't actually matter how cost competitive it is because governments care about it for other reasons than profitability.
>>16911557It's not. A5 was like 180 million.
>>16910709>infinite stratos in 2026wew lad>>16910712>>16910713>renderslopElonxisters were so back!>>16910726>they might have already been able to send a mission there, or at least a flyby in orbit of the moon and back by nowI am endlessly baffled at why spacex never made lunar dragon for FH
>>16911557at least their solid boosters work reliably
>>16911552Europe's flailing, failing politics was ripe for Amazon to rape, nice!>it also helps maintains European access to spaceany other assets you want to sell for a loss?
>>16911567Because fh came way too late and by that time starship was being worked on.
2 weeks?
we are building a FREAKING MASS DRIVER ON THE FLIPPIN MOON HELLOOOO??????
>>16911579For what purpose
>>16911580Exports from Lunar industry
Remember that mars life biosignature “confirmation”
>>16911586>finally find strong evidence for life>refuse to do a follow up mission to confirm itwe really arent getting that star trek future after all
>>16911580throwing rocks at earthers
>>16911544>AI is a terrible deal for everyone concerned>SO I'LL DO IT IN SPACE WHERE NO ONE CAN TELL ME I'M A RETARDStanding around making suggestive eyebrow wiggles isn't going to make semiconductors manufacture themselves any faster Elon
>>16911594He's neither the only nor the first one to be leaning into space data centres. Nvidia and Google started first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H8kqgPqTQ>What SpaceX Won't Tell You About Their First Failed Moon Mission | Everyday Astronaut
>>16911599The Jerusalem Bee
>random chinese commercial launch on a thursday>commercial launcher (made of military-derived SRM) by commercial company (owner is state-owned conglomerate) >decide to sail to south china sea despite being polar launch for no reason other than proving the dubious local southern commercial launch site scheme (involving local government) is definitely not a scam!>delayed three times because other commercial company (made of similar military derived SRM) had launch failure>launch in the middle of an offshore wind turbine field for aura farming>unreasonable amount of insulation confetti makes the rocket look like it's disintegrating at launch>10,000 tourists hiring fishermen to get inside range to watch the launch, launch happens anyway>Payloads:>Pakistani military satellite finally launching 10 years after signing the contract that the pakistani really don't want you to acknowledge they didn't make locally>This month's Deepseek Satellite (tm) whose only job is to run deepseek locally to raise money and prove the university is aligning with the current Five Year Plan's directives>Cutting edge wildfire monitoring satellite made by company whose logo is literally SpaceX's (no joke)>The Gacha spysat made by car company and paid by mobile game company Perfect microcosm of the current chinese commercial space industry
>six states now have bills to ban ai data center constructionthis is great news for spacex's data centers. the more governments ban them, the more space becomes the place for new data centers.
>>16911603>The Gacha spysat made by car company and paid by mobile game companyour time in space will come too, endfielders
So are the blue NASA jumpsuits just ceremonial more than anything?
>>16911533guess I ought to build cavities in the walls for barrels of nuclear waste, just to, yknow, be prepared>>16911430I'm thinking ON them
>>16911627>I'm thinking ON themOh man the spinqueers aren't gonna like that.Not. One. Bit.
>>16911614It's not a military branch, so it isn't technically a uniformBut if you're an astronaut, you have to wear them
>>16911627>on themyeah, this'll work for a long time, but eventually you're going to want to mine underneath the houses of the teaming masses and you'll need to cope with that, presumably by murdering them and sending the ones you keep into orbit
>>16911632why not?that's like saying trains can't possibly run on ground-bound rails, they have to be in the sky, because reasons
Boca Chica died for Lunar Data centerskek not even Mars
>>16911684Spinners are terrified of gravity wells.
>>16911686>>16911679
Clearly qualified!
>>16911599that story did get a giggle out of me (partly because I do have a Barbarian named "TRVMP", a Shout/Taunt/Berserk specialist)
>>16911684*Kopernik Shores
>>16911580
>>16911702
pedo comet to be destroyed by the sun
>>16911714Or the Sun destroyed by it.
>>16911714new capital punishment unlocked
3 hourshttps://www.spacex.com/launches/crew12
>>16910939>A man who quite literally abandoned Mars for ukraino-covid brainrotit's a big part of their agenda these days, their future plans hinge on them getting their desired outcome in both
>>16911714eccentricity: yes
>>16911727I love dragon
>>16911570How much money nasa is making then?
stream has started.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCM-Kwq91ccthey start the stream after they're in the dragon? no suit up / drive to pad? oh well
>>16911756Spaceflight is routine.Soon they won't even stream crewed flights.
>>16911570>any other assets you want to sell for a loss?Maybe before giving out business advice you could learn the difference between an asset and a service.
12 crew flights, isn't that the whole block of initial commcrew?
>>16911756Streamlined by Jared? They have time to show some b-roll of that.
>>16911761I always like seeing the family goodbyes
Andrey Fedyaev is the first 2nd-time Dragon flier besides Jared right?
ohhhh this is the one where the first Russian planned to fly was the fired because he was taking photos of shit at Hawthorn lol
>>16911756>they start the stream after they're in the dragon? no suit up / drive to pad? oh wellThey've been doing that for the last few Dragon missions. Might be to cut down on stream time to save money or something.>>16911764Michael Lopez-Alegria and Peggy Whitson as well
>it's not X, it's Y!some of this promo reel stuff has hints of AI, aahhhhh I hate the world >>16911768the announcer must have misspoke then
JESSIE
we are 1 bong from launch.I feel like I'm talking to myself here, where are ya'll?
>>16910693Soon Elon Musk will post about asteroid mining for the Moon.
JARED
>720p streamerrm, where's my 4k, spacex?
>>169117834k is on yt
>>16911784thanks
>>16911779I'm here, even though it's 4:30 in the morning.Looks like they're looking at going to a least 40 launches per F9 booster now, according to Jessie.
HLS mentioned! renders!
>>16911789I'm surprised they have a whole segment about HLS, hope there's some new info.
>nasa limits commercial spaceflights to the ISS to just 4 per yeari wonder how many a commercial station could handle
>>16911793dragon flights are expensive as fuck.
>>16911784It says 4k but the source is probably 1080p at least right now.
>>16911795yeah but they keep selling out
lmao the HLS talk got interrupted, and they never got back to it. Looked like they had more to say.
Cuando llegues a la luna hablarás español
we are GO
>>16911801It's either that or the russians
>>16911808why are mexicans so eager to move to the moon?
They have some sexy boots
>2026>microphone quality is still like 2002 counter-strike
>>16911813unlimited cheese for them beans
here we go!
WOOSH
I'm sticking around until 0g indicator reveal then I'm going to bed
nominal
another one
IT'S THAT EASY
no rats
Dragon sep
what did the Russian say
F9 has the best landing, hovering is incredibly gay
>>16911830something about vodka, and those goddamn Ukrainians
>>16911826>IT'S THAT EASYstarship sisters, your response...?
>>16911834starship landings are also easy
>a fucking mushroom
it's a goddamn salad up there
alright, I too will go to sleep, but first I gotta jork it to Katenight night
>>16911839master of your domain
>2026>manned space launches still arent an hourly thing
>>16911841Not even more than 100 people in space at once.
vacuum engines look nice
Russian girl in the post launch conf was cute
>>16911684Good enough tbdesu
Betelgeuse supernova when?
>>169119712 weeks
https://www.cnn.com/science/space-forge-factory-semiconductors-spcthey're beating spacexAI to the punch
>>169119912 and a half years for a license to launch is another reason to build where that doesn't need launching, although that much would take time.
I wasn’t aware Sarah Gillis is now Senior Advisor to the NASA Administrator, fun stuff
https://x.com/LabPadre/status/2022330085102268563https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship>Completed: Environmental Assessment for the Draft Tiered Environmental Assessment for Updates to Airspace Closures for Additional Launch Trajectories and Starship Boca Chica Landings of the SpaceX Starship-Super Heavy Vehicle at the SpaceX Boca Chica Launch Site in Cameron County, Texas.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/why-is-bezos-trolling-musk-on-x-with-turtle-pics-because-he-has-a-new-moon-plan/new burg on BO's lunar acceleration plans>Uncrewed demo mission: This requires three launches of the New Glenn rocket. The first two launches each put a “Transfer stage” into low-Earth orbit. The third launch puts a “Blue Moon MK2-IL” into orbit. (The “IL” stands for Initial Lander, and it appears to be a smaller version of the Blue Moon MK2 lander). All three vehicles dock, and the first transfer stage boosts the stack to an elliptical orbit around Earth (after this, the stage burns up in Earth’s atmosphere). The second transfer stage then boosts the MK-2 lander from Earth orbit into a 15×100 km orbit above the Moon. From here, the MK-2 lander separates and goes down to the Moon, later ascending back to low-lunar orbit.>Crewed demo mission: This requires four launches of the New Glenn rocket. The first three launches each put a “Transfer stage” into low-Earth orbit. A fourth launch puts the MK2-IL lander into orbit and the vehicles dock. The first transfer stage pushes the stack into an elliptical Earth orbit. The second transfer stage pushes the stack to rendezvous with Orion in a near-rectilinear halo orbit. After the crew boards, the third and final transfer stage pushes the MK-2 lander into a low-lunar orbit before separating. The lander goes down to the Moon and then ascends to re-rendezvous with Orion.>>16912046>RTLS trajectory is basically entirely over Mexicolel
>>16912048>The first three launches each put a “Transfer stage” into low-Earth orbit. A fourth launch puts the MK2-IL lander into orbit and the vehicles dock.I see Blue Origin falling back on the Sever method of reaching the moon
>>16912052KOROLEV LIVES
>>16912048BO is pining for Orion launches
>>16912036strong "we nasa now" energy
>>16912059Orion is heavy and sucks ass. They should just do their own lunar-capable capsule and service module. Though admittedly they’re probably already stretched thin from a r&d dev standpoint. NG third stage, Jarvis, blue moon mk2. It would still be worth it though to have some sort of blue moon capsule
>>16912054I'm not sure why I was all that surprised, given that Blue Moon Mk2 is pretty much just a bigger hydrolox version of this
>>16911583only thing we're shipping is grain straight into the mouths of hungry earthers.
>>16912052Orbital assembly always made more sense than designing a rocket around an arbitrary payload
>>16910749What gets me is the realization that it has always been a lie. His main skill that has made him so rich is that he can turn a certain type of autist into a fanatical follower. Whether they work for him for cheap, invest in his companies, buy his products, or defend him online.He makes money from starlink. He makes a new rocket optimized for low earth orbit, where starlink is. He tells everyone it's actually a Mars rocket. Autists pull doubles trying to make their dream a reality, but what they're actually working for is a telecom company that has done more to insure the internet is packed with third worlders than any other. If you ever had any hope for a Mars city, its because you forgot we live in jewish hell. Thanks for playing
Someone find my three year old /sci/ post where I list the numerous advantages of a lunar base of a Martian base. We WILL live inside the tunnels
>>16912082This must've hit Yusaku like a brick years ago. Also can you image how Everyday astronaut felt when the found out he was not gonna fly around the moon.
>>16912083stupid AND lazy? you've got a winning combo my friend
>>16910749>>16912082Don't say that you weren't warned
>>16912090I was literally addicted to hopium. I wasn't myself. I would ignore friends and family telling me it was a scam just to get a hit. I would even skip work just to watch a launch. Hopium is a dangerous drug.
>>16912084Having people fly around something always felt pointless to me. Either land or have a large station built to visit if people are involved.
>>16912094>just increase the complexity and risk of a mission with random civilians by an order of magnitudebrilliant suggestion anon
>NASA astronaut Jessica Meir speaks to family before heading to the launch pad.
we need an all black people mission
>>16912092>I would even skip work just to watch a launch.iktf. And it's hilarious when I see tards smugly pretending like we all didn't think Elon was the Chosen One up to a year ago.I hope he croaks soon and someone else rises from the chaos. There's likely still a lot of highly dedicated and motivated talent left at spacex, they just need someone to get them back into the Game.
>>16912103>like we all didn't think Elon was the Chosen One up to a year agoExcuse me, I've hated M*sk for years.
>>16911599The Tel Aviv Bee
>>16912101>crying in front of her kidwomen
>we can make as much cubic as we want!where the fuck do they get the nitrogen
>>16912116we have a bunch to spare after we remove the atmosphere
>>16911980In Elon's time
>>16912116Heinlein didn't know that there wasn't any up there, just like he didn't know how a nuclear reactor would work before it was invented.
getting permission for return to boca shouldn't be too hard because it's over nothing, but I wonder how hard will it be for return to Florida.
>>16912103what I find amusing is that liberals used to suck his dick in the 2010sthe instant Jobs died you couldn't throw an iPhone in either Silicon Valley or Wall Street without braining some retarded woman swooning breathlessly over Musk taking his place as *THE* new Great Man of Tech
>>16912127You can call them foids here, anon
>>16912128>foiddunno what that is, my slur vocabulary needs work
>>16912129lurk moar
>>16912126nuke mexico
>>16912126>over nothingalso called mexico
https://x.com/DeItaone/status/2022379481001005136
>>16912048so a expedited flags and footprintswhy?
>>16912151China bad.
>>16912148>$50 billionwasnt it $30 billion? that was $1.5 trillion valuation. whats the valuation for $50 billion?
>>16912146yeah he said that
>>16912176oh, $50 billion is $1.5 trillion
>elon was malding on twitter that anthropic got $30 billion in new fundinglooks lke spacex will be launching data centers for claude soon
>>16911971Already happened
>>16912199It must sting that unlike grok cloude is something people actually use.
>>16912052That looks super cursed.
>>16912205its refueling with extra steps
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-13/musk-s-bankers-are-discussing-a-plan-to-wrangle-xai-debt-after-spacex-merger
>>16912223the debt will be paid by stock investors
>mr beast is sending someone to spaceits space hero all over again
>>16912202Well except for how more people use Grok than Claude.
>>16912220*Refilling
https://x.com/NycStormChaser/status/2022334112866955679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNNjEL6iMY>Is Elon Musk’s Space Bet Just Ego?
>>16912232Grok is a slop generator, Claude is used by every nigger everywhere to vibecode shit.
>>16912252Why do they all have the same face but with different hair and skin options picked
>>16910693Glory to the chairman
10 more years until elon hits retirement age
>>16912273niggas never retiring
>>16912273It would probably be for the best if he stepped back within five years and appointed someone mission focused with youthful vigor as CEO.
>>16912278which one of his sons will it be?
>>16912279The troon
Here I was thinking BE-4 was going to be a risky failure, meanwhile it’s putting in its worth and having GEMs explode next to it left and right every other flight kek
>>16912126MAD MEXICANS? hehehe
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2022448209910755341>BREAKING: SpaceX has officially announced that @Starlink now has over 10 million customers, up from 9M in December 2025 and 8M in November.>Starlink added over 19,000 new customers on average per day since they hit 9 million customers.>The first Starlink version 3 satellites are expected to launch later this year, which will bring gigabit connectivity and 20X capacity.https://x.com/Starlink/status/2022446814591615013>Starlink is connecting more than 10M active customers with high-speed internet across 160 countries, territories and many other markets.
>>16912295>The first Starlink version 3 satellites are expected to launch later this year, which will bring gigabit connectivity and 20X capacity.sure, jan
Vasibros... not like this
>>16912310i wonder what he thought it was
>>16912103https://markatwood.substack.com/p/what-what-happened-to-amazon-or-dontwhat do you expect to happen if "someone else rises"?very low likelihood anybody can replicate what musk has achieved
How many more weeks until Launch?
>>16912315yeah
>>16912315Ship still needs to cryo test. After that, booster and ship will need engines installed, immediately followed by a static fire for each, and then the stack. But don't forget about the pad, which is almost complete.March.
>>16912312Not a scam His tweet was in reply to Zubrin shitting on VASIMR's power requirements as usual
>>16912310getting bearish on VASIMR now? right on the cusp of a new NASA administration that wants to push in-space nuclear propulsion? This is literally the first time we have an environment willing to test this shit in space.
>>16912252Clearly yes, SpaceX is a failed company so far.>>16912310You're no engineer, Berger
>>16912314>The comparison with Musk is not about character. It is about bandwidth allocation. During the same window, Musk was building actual infrastructure across multiple companies while managing his own considerable share of personal chaos. He maintained the seeing. Bezos allocated his bandwidth to crisis management, a vanity rocket, and (subsequently) the construction of one of the world’s largest sailing yachts. The market doesn’t care about the reason for the allocation. The market only sees the result.
https://fixupx.com/SciGuySpace/status/2022477249497403606>Yikes. NASA couldn’t even complete a test of the SLS rocket’s ground system seal for liquid hydrogen because something else broke with the ground systems. And they wait until 8 pm ET Friday to send an update on something they knew last night.
>>16912341I don’t know how Wiseman sleeps at night knowing he has to eventually get on this damn thing and commit to a launch
>>16912341Reminder it took like 6 months from Artemis 1 to roll out to finally launching
boutique rocket
>>16912341its not the rocket we want, but its the one we have, so we just gotta deal with it until we get the alternatives up and running
>>16912352nuglin is already up and running
>>16912353they can't build enough of them and it's expensive to build, and it's not capable enough. why should I care.
>>16912355nothing is expensive when your alternative is SLS
>>16912355Yeah I am almost exactly parroting what the other anon said in reply, but SLS is so fucking expensive NASA could just ask Blue Origin for three or four dedicated, expendable launches and to prioritize this shit over other stuff and build them fast and BO could even mark the price way the hell up and it would still be a fraction of the cost of an SLS.SLS is GAY and EXPENSIVE
>>16912048>>16912052People in high positions in Blorg have been lurking this general for years
>>16912360
>>16912363long and storied tradition of the yeet train
orbital rendezvous is unproven technology
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/IBHa5o2cwc3VNkTUtYbF9A?spm_id_from=333.1387.0.0http://www.spacenew.cn/mobile/news/show-67857.htmlAll individual stages of the Long March 10 have been succesfully static fired; The manned lunar exploration project at the Wenchang Space Launch Site is expected to complete all construction by the second half of 2026.
>>16912295Imagine 50 million customers in the next decade. SpaceX is set
oh no https://tmfassociates.com/blog/2026/02/08/the-problem-with-starship/
>>16912385If LM-10 beats SLS to land people on the moon the Amerimutt public will have to start asking some serious questions.
>>16912411>pic relhalf of those rockets are in hell actually
>>16912407Jeets and niggers won’t be paying what white people pay for starlink. Elon will be selling starlink plans for $5 a month in street shitter lands (Pakistan India Bangladesh) because he needs hundreds of millions more of them using grok to rape the internet so he can profit.
>>16912420>using grok to rape the internetRape the Earther* internet
https://youtu.be/-QbYrs5SZ5M
>>16912438my yt algo has been trying to get me watch that for a week.we are alike
>>16912407https://x.com/laderechadiario/status/2022490988397355039Starlink just thriving in a deregulated internet market where millions are now getting internet for the first time
>>16912366kek
>>16912420Yes they will. Those prices are subsidized by the governments of those countries because they have a direct desire to get online ASAP. It's not the same situation that pharma companies run with poorer countries with cheaper drugs.
>>16912420whites make up just 10% of the Earth's population, at bestthat's just pure mathat some point, you have to adjust your pricing accordingly
>>16911586>about to lose funding>find "new" evidence for life>never follow up or publish anything relatedRepeatHow many times has this happened already?
>>16912444That's example of a once over regulated market
>>16910843>>16910852https://youtu.be/SQOEC9gHpmA?t=1839Watch from here to 37:00We have to go back ;_;
>>16912411The US will just say they were first 50 years ago and pretend this wasn't a race.
>>16912504>The flight plan kept Evans busy, making him so tired he overslept one morning by an hour, despite the efforts of Mission Control to awaken him.Maybe I *can* make it
>>16912504It won’t be the same, it will never ever be the same again, the hymen of space exploration got broken.
>>16912525It'll look different in HD livestreaming
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/2022523940359279037?s=20
>Born too early to explore strange new worlds in a warp-capable NX class starshipWhy even live
>>16912273Blackpill. Nobody can replace him. SpaceX is finished without him. After running for a quater of a century there is a last great sprint necessary to accomplish the goal, yet he ha lost focus when the target is in sight.So sad, got one shot by AI. If he had conducted the first ever human landings on Mars then he would me immortalised.
>>16912545land and then what? it needs to be sustainable and permanent or it might be a similar situation like Apollo or worseif access to space gets cheap enough, another company or a bunch of companies and entrepreneurs can come along and continueif launch remains too expensive and infrequent,then even if he managed to land some humans there or start a small research base it might very well be cancelled due to too high costsif AI truly means close to unlimited demand for compute and this compute is cheaper in space, then economics will simply take care of itlaunch will become cheaper and cheaper even if SpaceX stopped existing tomorrow if it was actually shown that it is economically cheaper to have compute in spacealso Musk still has time to start the colonization process, he is 54 now, there will probably be some longevity tech coming helped along with AI and Musks father is 79 years old now and seems to be pretty coherent and healthy for the most part so Musk probably has 20 years at least even if no longevity tech comesthat is almost as long as SpaceX has existed until nowthis doomerism is retarded
>>16912530
>>16912550
>>16912550I hate SLS with a passion but Casey is kind of going pepe silvia schizo mode here connecting random dots just to dunk on it
>>16912549This. All that matters right now is making access to space cheap and routine, and very frequent. A herculean leap directly to Mars would not be sustainable without an industrialized earth-moon system providing the impetus
>>16912553Wow the muskrat moves the goal post yet again
>>16912553No, SpaceX is going straight to Mars. The Moon is a distraction. Mass to orbit is the key metric, thereafter mass to Mars surface. The former needs to be in the megaton to orbit per year range to build a self-sustaining colony on Mars.
>>16912557the moon is a distraction with respects to launching payloads to marsMusk has talked about a moon base for like a decade
>>16912557>>16912573i.e. the context of that tweet was launching from the moon to mars (like refueling there)I remember around that time that many people (maybe still have) a misunderstanding that it would make sense to launch payloads to the moon and then launch them from the moon to marsi.e. Earth -> moon -> marswhich doesn't make sensebut a separate moon base for research is something musk has talked aboutits just that with this data center opportunity that research base might be expanded to something that actually creates revenue and is self-sustaining from a revenue standpoint instead of being a money sink (like an antartica base)
>>16912554previously it was basically just start launching shit to mars and hope some industrial thing comes up so it doesn't just die at some point with the hope of Musk having enough cash to sustain it until it becomes a separate economythat is somewhat still the idea, but the launc costs will be massively subsidized by actual demand from data center launches and can probably be sustained purely by the revenue those create and make the expansion much fasterit is still unclear how much it is actually going to cost to start colonizing mars, if you were able to liquidate Musks current other wealth for the project then it might or might not be enoughhaving stable regular cashflows from data centers + actually have the launch demand from them as well will make it so much easier
also, the plan is still to send shit to mars in 2031
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022512590560338327
>>16912580
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022452075645558851
>>16912585
>>16912585>Yeahelaborate???
>>16912341https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022552614701863177
>>16912587https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXbuik3dgAthe first 36 minutes
>>16912585maybe it is time to slough off ai data centers into space. them and crypto miners.
>>16912295https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022548441553911842
https://x.com/charliebcurran/status/2022463429823598999
>>16912594I keked at that last shot
>>16912552he is right
https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/2022027397869219902lmao
>>16912577wasnt it 2026 last time?
>>16912607that might have happened if Starship didn't keep exploding in 2025overall this pivot might not even slow things down by much if the amount of ships that gets sent in 2031 is much more than with previous plansso later, but larger magnitude due to AI data centers enabling more revenue generating launches compared to starlinksome systems can also be tested in cislunar space and iterated faster so ultimately how much this will slow down things is a bit unclearone comment I've seen (which I don't really believe due to how Musk tends to go all in on one thing mostly) is that Musk is saying this for IPO purposes (I've seen some grumbling about wasting money on Mars etc) and that NASA and Trump want the moon landing to happenI don't think this is just talk though, they have really pivoted to prioritizing the moon now instead of perhaps only sending stuff that customers like NASA want
>>16912607I remember seeing something about Optimus robots in 2028. How they'll work in low gravity I have no idea, it would be pretty funny if they manage to land those things there and then they just keep falling over
>>16912612That would be a better problem than failing to land multiple times when the time to make changes and try again is so long.
how likely HLS will fail moon landing?
>>16912618HLS will never attempt a moon landing.
>>1691261850/50
>>16912624ars in general is much worse than just the spaceflight sectionberger and clark seem pretty accurate and mostly quite unbiased (the latter which is certainly not the case overall on ars technica)
>>16912624spaceflight?
>>16912633ars is a primary source of spaceflight news
>>16912618>>169126202029
>>16912612One of the many reasons why it would be better to test them first on the moon.
>>16912636"primary source" as in "they made it up"
>>16912663Although, I wonder if they have some system for training them in low G virtually. I recall that FSD and Optimus share the same training system, and they're able to generate unusual scenarios in virtual space for FSD training. So unless I'm just a big dumb idiot, maybe they can simulate 0.3G for the robots and train them that way. Or then they just let them spazz around in the real world until they start learning how to move around there
>>16912671you need to test them in the real world stillOptimus is being trained in simulation, but there is still going to be an "Optimus Academy" with 20-30k Optimi
>>16912672Looking forward to montage videos of Optimus playing QWOP in real life
>>16912610>that might have happened if Starship didn't keep exploding in 2025Not really, because v2 couldn't be used to test refuelling; refuelling would depend on V3 and V3 was already designed and being manufactured while V2 kept exploding.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022696301482381830
>>16912675it was used to test that with internal tanks
>>16912676>spaceX has no safety teamHow rude
>>16912676GIGA TRVTHNOVAEveryone's job is safety instead of some middle aged female led department being the safety team holding 200 meetings per day about how to hypothetically improve safety instead of actually improving safety whilst at the same time not being able to be held responsible when things go wrong
>>16912676>Tesla has no safety team and is the safest car. This is going to get abused hard.
>>16912676Not spaceflight.
>>16912618landings in .15g with dedicated engines is fucking easy
>>16912585US power providers, in 10 years, can't up production by 10%And people wonder why the west deindustrialized
>>16912688Landing is easy, just like falling over.
Muh Kessler Syndrome! hysteria is slowly replacing Muh global warming! hysteria.No goy, you can't have cheap energy and you can't go to space.
>>16912694Starlink at least has a use and even if they break they would deorbit pretty fast. But what happens if you litter higher orbits with garbage no one needs?
Elon is blotting out the sun and reducing the efficacy of solar panels on Earth and causing incalculable amounts of damage due climate disruptions from the lower solar irradiance on the surface.
>>16912694Nothing a little powdered sugar to orbit couldn't fix(turns out there IS a way to sugarcoat it)
>>16912699Global cooling alarmism because there is so much mass in LEO with giant sun shades and radiators and panels
>>16912550>>16912551You can use your browser's built-in screenshot right-click option to take a screenshot instead of spamming multiple images of one tweet.
>>16912712Speaking of which...
>>16912715its over
>>16912715why is he writing essays instead of doing his job?
>>16912712I wonder when that became a feature, seems to be working very well on firefox now
>>16912717what do you think his job is?
>>16912721micromanaging nasa managers and tard wrangling the president and his team
Obviously NASA being transparent about their problems and then these grifter blog writers pretending its an immense program failure is a clown show
>>16912724You're not getting the issue here
>>16912724SLS being a dumpsterfire and NASA being transparent about that seem to be somewhat independentNASAs transparency also doesn't absolve the SLS being a flaming piece of shit
>>16912725LH2 leaks, thats normalThis is why we test
>>16912699this will become an issue, and it will probably be solved with mirror satelites reflecting extra light toward paying customers. the rube goldberg machine of the economy continues.
of course NASA being transparent is *better*, but its not enoughand I would prefer NASA being very opaque and SLS working instead of SLS sucking and NASA being transparentfor a while it has been SLS sucking (this has been a constant for decades), but NASA also trying to hide that fact
>>16912719Years ago.
>>16912712And to think this is all because they couldn't be fucked to use RP-1 again like they should haveMuh shuttle engines
they fired the nasa intern team that wrote press articles and posted on twitter and instead gave that job to the nasa admin
>>16912732The SLS is the SLS, nothing has changedRocket programs routinely face delaysThe architecture will likely work as intended, its not like a return on investment was ever considered
>>16912736launching every 3 years was intended? I don't fucking think so
>>16912735DOGE is working!
>>16912735at least nasa admin now has something to do
>>16912735nasa really doesnt work fast enough to need a dedicated social media team
>>16912744It needs public engagement. Are you dumb? This general is growing more retarded by the week
>>16912745the public doesnt read fucking articles
>>16912745it needs to accomplish noteworthy things, otherwise nobody gives a fuck
>>16912588>speed is the ultimate offensive and defensive weaponand you guys were making fun of him for playing Diablo. Instead, lessons learned and applied elsewhere
>>16912588>SLS to orbit: 1 (soon to be 2)>starships to orbit: 0 (soon to remain 0)the turtle wins again
5 stages of spaceflight grief>denial - nahh spacex didnt abandon mars, elon is just trying to get nasa moon gibs>anger - elon you ass stop fucking around>bargaining - please im begging you elon, dont pivot to ai data centers in LEO>depression - remember the good times, bros?>acceptance - space was always bad, we need to focus on our problems here first
no one has posted crew-12 approach stream yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v25BJu_QNys
suit leak check issue
>>16912769lol there are quality options up to 4k but it seems like the actual stream is 720p max
>>16912699>Elon is blotting out the sun and reducing the efficacy of solar panels on Earth and causing incalculable amounts of damage due climate disruptions from the lower solar irradiance on the surface.Blotting out the sun from SSO? Good luck with that.
suit issue fixed
these suits use upgrades from Polaris dawn, cool
> SpaceX wants to make life "planetary" nowIt's over.
>>16912774whos the new white girl? she's mogging kate.
>>16912784Time for an eye exam?
>>16912783Is the implication that there won't be life on Earth for much longer?
>>16912784Pray that I don't drop a tungsten rod on your current location right now.
>>16912784She looks like Kate if you squished and turned her into a bimbo
awesome ISS views from Dagon
2nd medical call...
I watched The Right Stuff for the first time yesterday. Pretty good, but holy fuck the Sputnik launch scene caught me off guard. Absolute kino.
>>16912817fucking Ike, we would have won if he wasn't trying to be passive
quite a lot of RCS
GO for docking
come on tars
>you can now CLEARLY see
>>16912828why isn't this bitch doing her job right now?
>>16912830It's 5am and she's exhausted from attending every Love Live concert and preparing for her 3D performance.
>>16912830sorry, I'm cuddling her right now.
>>16912830let the old man sleep, you can watch his cartoon puppet another time
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022752097339355194
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022774213765914862https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_890acbfb-d015-4e60-8b1e-d4d9a398dcff?rid=5d18cdae-8830-4d46-aa8a-4a6b09fdcc4e
>Think hard.
>>16912788marsform terra
It's over
>>16912843Okay wait there is probably >50/50 chance that Elon is just asking Grok retarded questions at this point and that is informing how he is running SpaceX going forward, and shifting their priorities. Holy grim
>>16912849Grok asked for more datacenters, what can he do.
>he still can't screenshot properlyIf you're using the right-click "Take Screenshot" in firefox, start the selection box from the bottom of the content and end at the top to avoid the translucent header that moves down with the page and blocks portions of your screenshots.
>>16912842Combine 1-3, because the only reason to not combine all 4 is sending humans at the same time has a different kind of cost for replacement. It's already going to have delays from failed landings, no reason to spread it out further intentionally.
>>16912849holy based
>>16912783Lies.
>>16912857>>16912783
>>16912858wait a moment what is that light at the center of marswhat the hell is happening there
>>16912858Oh look they havent updated the website yet. Great hopium!
>>16912872The first human settlement, obviously.
>>16912872the first nuke
>>16912849
I always get depressed amd drunk on valentine’s day ever since my fiancée died, and I always imagine being a geologist on the moon or mars would fix me. Keep the faith of the heart bros. We need to make it or we’ll go extinct.
earths moon has almost no water, Ice giant moons have liquid water oceans
> Subsurface vs. Deep: Some models suggest volatiles could exist in the megaregolith (fractured zone ~1–10 km deep) from buried impacts, but undetected and dilute. Neutron data probes only ~1 meter; radar ~2–3 meters. No indications of rich ice below polar surface deposits.
>>16912880Very suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8RXVhunPhEHello friendsJust saw this video and thought to make some webms.
>>16912553>>16912549The copes are getting grim
>>16912872The Void Dragon
>>16912889>>16912891Amazing as always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODuQCtYh8Ethe arrival live
any second now they'll enter!
nice 'stash, jack
and that's a wrap
>>16912880Concerning
>>16912913Spaceflight.But also compared to who? AI is just a fuckass buzzword. There is no such thing as artificial intelligence with all these stupid ass overvalued companies. God this bubble cannot pop soon enough I hope all these faggot silicon valley faggots end up in bread lines and soup kitchens I hate them all
>>16912942kek based
happy valentines day, /sfg/! I'm 30 and KHV, space is all I have to live for
>>16912947damn sorry to hear that
Space datacenters is the best thing that could have ever happened to spaceinfinite demand, input and output is just data
>>16912955we need people in space
>trump is illegally withholding funding from nasa science missions even though congress passed a law that he cant do thatwhat now?
>>16912958why are you surprised. It's just corrupt bullshit event #14595 of this term.
>>16912957thats easier when launch is cheap and plentiful and there is industry in space
O'Neill thought space based solar power would be the killer app, but turns out beaming power is pretty hardjust bring the consumer to orbit as well and voilà
>>16912964its the killer app, we just aint ready for it yet
>>16912127That's because Musk tailors his talking points to his audience in order to work them over. He only started adopting "chud" political positions in the past few years because he wanted to win over gullible rightoids like he did with gullible liberals.
>>16912958>illegallyExecutive branch has the leeway on what to fund on what grounds. There's no "illegal" action. Its how the branch works. Further the "science mission" is just for departments that have woke shit promoting gender ideology nonsense
>>16912974>Further the "science mission" is just for departments that have woke shit promoting gender ideology nonsenseyou're so FUCKING brainwashed dude, kill yourself and stop shitting up my general. don't even bother replying to this.
>>16912966Starship + some engineering no fundamental new discoveries are needed
as someone working on HWO this is total fucking bullshit; https://x.com/NASAWatch/status/2021607319033782288/I can't wait until this admin is dead and buried
>>16912976total "science" cancellation
>>16912976America rejected the ideology. So we move forward with purging the cancer
>>16912978
>>16912979you probably thing you're being cute and funny? you're just a petulant shithead>>16912981how is HWO funding 'cancer'? you're legit brainwashed
what does Trump have against venus?
oh great another 50 posts coming up of /pol/ bait spam, can't fucking wait.
>>16912983https://www.nasa.gov/general/nasa-receives-high-marks-for-workforce-diversity-practices/DEI must go from leadership
congress will withhold funding from human spaceflight, especially HLS, if this continues
>>16912987Earth also has large igneous provinces kinda like lunar maria
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022848786469364171
>>16913020le cope
>>16912982How does any of that slop help with human conquest of the solar system?
>>16912327Oh was Zubrin ranting about that power requirement for an absurdly fast transit time again?
>>16912512>China will just say they were not trying to beat America back to the Moon and will focus on how it now stands equal to American space prowess
>>16913038Who cares most will suicide or die of hunger or just not marry and reproduce and die out the way the world is heading
>>16912552What specifically was he wrong about?
>>16912557>The Moon is a distractionThe seethe as anon knowingly omits the context of literally traveling to the Moon before heading to Mars.
annuda one
>>16912958Post the screencap of the post you read claiming this.
>>16912976This person thinks MSR should have been continued.
>>16913050a twilight launch, there were some kino views of the first stage drifting through and out of the jellyfish. I expect some nice ground views to start coming in.
>>16913051
>>16913034Yeah he was pointing out that the reactor mass reduces your acceleration to near zero.
>>16913056Looks fine to me.
>>16913058technically might be illegal
>>16913056I don't know if this is right. From what I can tell the 10 day review cycle STARTS on the 17th.>This pause in commitments is intended to prevent negative work; once the signed apportionment is received from OMB-which could be as soon as Tuesday, February 17th—all unobligated commitments in these projects will need to be decommitted, Centers will be asked to move available funding up to ALLOBJECTS for RMO action, and budget levels will be locked to temporarily prevent obligations. This temporary hold is expected to last for 10 business days, but may be extended.
Shame this doesn't have more volumeAlso pls don't blow up the pad in testing ElonOtherwise they seem totally on track for this and 40% is way too low
>>16913050>$SEX: 574>Rest of za warudo combined: 1 (UNO!)
>>16913056>I wonder what Jared Isaacman has to say about this
>marco rubio speech in europe>said commercial spaceflight is the future of western civyeah im thinking we won
>>16913077The successful splashdown odds make sense to me, but I don't get the other bets. Shouldn't they all be around 50%?
>>16912858Mars Express
>>16913095I guess because its small market and the place is full of degenerates (not me), also I have got a significant amount on there now but its like a month to tie up money so am waiting a bit to lock it up, but none of these make sense and look solid buys.They are testing the fuck out of this before launch and there doesn't seem to be issues.Super heavy exploding and no chopsticks is all but guaranteed for v3. The terms are exploding at any time including splashdown, has there ever been one splashdown where it doesn't RUD? Not sure its even possible Also I screenshotted in private mode because I don't want you retards to work out my account there and mock me for the absolute dumb shit I do on that siteSomehow up quite a bit but no idea how.
>>16913111>chopsticksque?
>>16912892
https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/2022855565953658967
>>16913128I can't wait for the first boca starship return. I might drive out to watch
>>16912881Must be nice to have ever loved enough to pop the question. Happy (?) Valentine's Day anon.
>>16912947are you me
>>16913020Room temperature take: I think we should practice on the Moon at least a little bit before going to Mars.
>>16913183I dunno... they say the Moon is a harsh mistress...
>>16913183Practice what
>>16913190Base building.
I've played stationeersI know how it's supposed to go
>>16913183We can do both, but moon will be faster to do due to faster turn around time. We can send dozen starships the next mars transit window opens. Then within the next 2 years, we practice more on the moon, then do another couple dozen launch to mars, then do more on the moon, etc.
>>16913117It's basically solved and from what I understand they won't risk destroying a pad for something that seems to have worked pretty damn well so farAll the signalling from Musk and other people is that for the first few Block 3 flights is splashdownsHonestly think they will try orbital refuelling before another chopsticks landing
>>16913201Genius idea, make launch pad and landing pad the same structureThen dont' build a backup...
>>16913183We already did that!
>>16913194Yeah, like how 20 years of the ISS helped us with everything we need to build a base on the Moon
>>16913194Is that the one where the clown blows you out the airlock?
>>16913201>Its basically solved>but we don't want to risk destroying the launch padThen that doesn't sound very solved at all.
>>16913209only the static fire, meh
>>16913056I foresee OMB getting a new director soonVought is risking getting his entire office defunded by Congress
>>16913125N-nothing to see here! ^^
>>16912879>he doesn't know about the xenon
>>16912947I'm 32, but at least I held hands once. Lmao fucking loser
>>16912947I had a BPD gf from ages 30-31. I fucked her approx 1000 times and she ruined my life, that's enough sex for me for a lifetime.
>>16913197Both was always better. There's no reason to waste years by not sending something as soon as a ship is ready.
>>16913020>To be Clear
Starship for starlink, starship for datacenters, starship for moon, starship for mars.Mars is not happening for at least a decade.
>>16913279just build a lot of starships
>>16913197>We can send dozen starshipshahahahahahahaNo.
If you birth humans in zero gravity they will adapt to the circumstances and be able to live a happy life there.
>>16913279Why not build more? Unless democrats ban starships, we're goin
It was believed a GEO-LEO architecture can rival Starlink by using intelligent routing to send requests that require high bandwidth but low sensitivity to latency over the GEO link, while using the LEO link for latency-sensitive tasks. However, Eutelsat just poured cold water on that concept.
>>16913345lol
>>16913344You need over 100 starships just for 10 starships to Mars, it's not any different for Moon.It took years for F9 to reach that number and Starship is much more complex.
>>16913345Well yeah, LEO has better bandwidth these days too. you can only do so much with a small number of GEO birds when they're that far away.Multi-orbit is just legacy providers coping. GEO will only survive as emergency backups and maybe for broadcast TV (do people still watch that?)
To be frank, I never believed in Mars plans.We have had the tech to go there for decades (even Falcon 9 and Atlas V would be enough), but we chose not to.
>>16913357go there in a cuckbox for a flags and footprints mission for enormous cost that doesn't really advance tech muchwhy?
>>16913358What cuckbox?
>>16913359the capsule the astronauts would be going in
https://x.com/ScottRo83866595/status/2022859406971732148SpaceX
>>16913357Just Falcon 9 could've changed how we send people to the moon if the mountains of academic papers on orbital assembly are to be believed.
>>16913354V4 is supposed (we'll see) to need only 5-6 flights, and you don't need to land so many of them to start a project.Where the project is first robots and machinery, then a permanent outpost for 10 people growing with time.If you mean full scale colonization even 10 ss every two years would be nothing anyway.
>>16910796If you're using regolith for anything other than fill dirt you will have all the iron you need
>>16910817Oh no! Not my grift startups!How will I boil water for tea now?!?
>>16910911>Not to be alarmist, but check out this alarmist nonsensechicken little mode: activatedsky status: literally falling to pieces
>>16910953Depends on what country they're from. The Industrial Revolution has largely ignored New Guinea, for example. In some sense everyone there is from before the Industrial Revolution.
>>16911024China and five year plans. Name a more iconic duo.
>>16911115It's easy to be retarded when doing so is in your own interests.Doubt any evidence that disagrees with you and believe anything, no matter how incredible, that supports your position.
>>16911149Do you know where metal comes from on Earth?
Unpopular opinion: The only reason to launch rockets is to cause the Kessler Syndrome
Russia's plasma engine can reach Mars in 30d. Russia proposes dual Russia mission there with SpaceX.
spacex doing airshows now
Wen next flight? June? July?
>>16913392How do you stop
>>16913413March is always the answer
>>16913415turn around
>>16913392Russia is so strong oh my word.
>>16913415Aerobrake
>>16913338Which of the heads is without sin and blesses the other after the 2nd flame deluge?
>>16911149yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4Ki6TxRTshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p230vGSqefQ
>>16913424https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8le1kudhVNQ
see, if we kept with the carbon fiber starship design we could grind up unused starship carcasses on the moon to provide colonists carbon
>>16913424>Volkanite® cast basalt isan extremely durable, high-strength material used primarily for its exceptional abrasion and chemical resistance in both heavy industrial and architectural applications.nice
>>16911115>>16913386Maybe I'm overthinking it but one rational I can see is that certain people have internalized the idea the government grossly overpays for things.The government paying you to do something even if you bid the lowest is seen as giving you outsized reward that is likely undeserved. What doesnt help dispel this is the original ISS cargo contracts basically jumpstarted SpaceX.For those contracts not to be a "subsidy" SpaceX would have to had bid 10x less and be in almost the same position before and after the original ISS missions. Being able to further develop F9 into reusability and build more infrastructure from those contracts makes it seem like SpaceX was given way too much.Of course the people who make the subsidy argument dont care at all that Boeing, Lockheed, etc get paid alot more for less so dont assume their position truly is rational. It starts with a double standard.
Anne McClain’s gay ex-wife just sentenced to federal prison for lying
>>16913444how do we know she was gay?
>>16913444Silly woman. Knowingly making false claims and getting away with it is only for big guys like Elon.
Are you ready for Chinese Apollo?
>>16913456>taking the propulsion stage down with you until the last minuteHow kerbal of them
>>16913456at this point I'm ready for anything to happen. please, something, just happen
>>16913392We should work with Russia. Otherwise they will give this to China or make space weapons with it.
>>16913455Kek
happy Sunday lads.
>>16913475This is faith of the heart btw
>>16913392Russia gets to Mars before Elon.
>>16913487They'll have another upper stage explode in LMO before Elon gets there
>>16913197>We can send dozen starships the next mars transit window opens. In November 2026? May we see these dozens of fueled Starships?
>>16913475Honestly I would totally freak out if I were doing that
What if second stage reuse won't work?
>>16913504then mass to orbit will stay relatively expensive and almost nothing discussed will work
https://x.com/teslayoda/status/2023069853649866998
>>16913512
https://x.com/bscholl/status/2023066032903168189
>>16913512>>16913515this is literally my jobtempting, ngl
>>16913456China is so fucking zased
>>16913524You think you have what it takes to be Muskler's top guy?
>>16913475>>16913477>>16913495Imagine if you accidentally turned to face the black of space. You would lose your entire sense of self.
>>16913531I'm afraid I'm not Indian enough to get the job
>>16913531he really likes platinum blond hair btw
>>16913475>>16913495>>16913532This would only get scary once you stop having an entire nation behind you and lost your earth sized point of reference and distance.Stick my ass in the intergalactic medium and I would probably have a heart attack on the spot
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2023094959809675313
>>16913536Well apparently they purposefuly make the ISS airlocks face the Earth so that it's the first thing you see when you exit, because stepping into the empty void without any point of reference can cause immediate discomfort and disorientation and you have to remember that your FOV is drastically reduced in those suits.
>>16913539lol all of the cyber trucks
>>16913531I have what it takes sir
>>16913540this sounds very gay
>>16913512>>16913515why isnt tesla doing this? they have a whole energy business which includes solar.
>>16913546tesla will buy cells from spacex
>>16913546Tesla is working on the ore refining part soon. Starlink solar cells are already assembled in-house at SpaceX. At some point the companies will merge.
>>16913546Tesla is getting folded under SpaceX in Q3.
>>16912958Oh would you look at that, the reporting on this was false.https://x.com/i/status/2023072553833791877
>>16912106Oh no! He was insufferable before! Now he'll be even more smug and stung up!
>>16911841admit you just watched GATTACA again
>Blue Origin, SpaceX’s rival, is working on something called Blue Alchemist, which would separate lunar regolith into materials such as oxygen, silicon, iron and aluminum. The silicon would be used to create solar cells.ahh, so that explains it
>>16913424Interesting patterns. My hunch would be on the diamond patterns. I'd like to know the result.
>>16913572explains what?
>>16913392>RussiaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHyou mean the country that can't get beyond LEO? the same space agency that never gets anything done, ever? the very same pockocmoc that specializes in powerpoint rockets? people who unironically call musk a fraud and a conman would simply die of an aneurysm on the spot if they ever spent more than 2 minutes reading roscosmos's wiki page.my sides are in orbit
>>16913392It's just a magnetoplasmadynamic thruster. They've been around for decades but they aren't used on spacecraft yet because they require a huge amount of power.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoplasmadynamic_thruster
https://x.com/BellikOzan/status/2023116929393909825
>>16913536I feel like seeing the Earth would be more disorienting. Space is just the night sky, but the Earth so far below might give you a feeling of falling
>>16913578It.
>>16913590even worse, imagine accidentally looking at the sun with no eye protection
hahhahhah $tsla is the funny number again.elon will hit 1 trilly soon
>>16913532Accidentally? The anglo-saxon does precisely this on purpose, and in fact finds more of himself in the unknown
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2023133972985958609Imagine the seething
>>16912291>white people annoy mexicans in their homes with the loud noise they makekek, taste of their own medicine
>>16913610That would qualify as the most expensive drone show of all time given the launch cost of all the satellites involved
>>16913610
It's Spok, not Grok
>>16913620Musk is friends with Ellison, the gay heeb who owns Skydance and therefore Paramount and therefore star trek. Can musk PLEASE bargain to make Star Trek good again?
>>16913622Star Trek has never been good. Shitti sci-fi for hippies
>>16913461>We should work with Russia.we can't, they have severely pissed off the international ZOG with their interference in Syria and the Ukraine
>>16913638It's a show about philosophy
>>16913458I'm afraid they copied Grunman's crasher concept.
>>16913600I guess the helmets have pretty good protective coatings
>>16913392>plasma engine can reach Mars in 30dSure, if you run an extension cord from Earth.
>>16913647If you watch TV or film in 2026 you are cattle.
BREAKING: President Obama says aliens are real. This is the first time a former president has ever said so in public.
>>16913661Boomers say things like "soft times create soft people", then watch the fucking superbowl
Haven't been keeping up with spaceflight. How's the hungry hippo doing? Is Pad 2 finished?>>16913668No one cares what a negro thinks.
>>16913668Retarded "interview"
>>16913668The planet Vulcan? Uhhhhhh we’ve been there before!
Wouldn't mind porkin this hore!
>>16913668tic tac bros, we are back
>>16913583euroids have no response to this
>>16913668WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS THO
>>16913689I think Obamna was just setting himself up for a joke, the punchline being “but they ain’t in area 51 like everyone thinks they are!” / “my first question as POTUS was ‘where are the aliens?!’”It’s innocuous and everyone is losing their minds about this lol. Hell I bet if you asked Bush, Trump, and Biden they would all 100% unironically say yeah aliens probably exist I’ve been briefed that they do
>>16913688Of course they don't. Reading a tweet that long would require a feasibility study first.
>>16913695heheh
>>16913524DO IT ANON! Build the future you want to see!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQGXCERgbWo>SpaceX Aims Towards Establishing Moon Base Within 10 Years
>>16913190Sex
>>16913712>elon: you'll be able to drive your tesla across the country with just FSD>everyone: LIAR! IT'LL NEVER HAP-and now elon says spacex will build a base on the moon? never trust elon and his lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hztuwi7ZOK0>"Love is in the air at Starbase" | SpaceX Starbase
>>16913718people don't really seem to give a shit about this for some reasonwhat I've seen its basically: "this is the greatest thing ever, you have to try it"and"FSD is a scam. Have I tried it during the last few months? nah, its a scam"7 unsupervised cars driving around in a smallish geofence (the actual size not really known) in Austin and anybody can take those but nobody really seems to give a shit about that either, probably due to other companies having unsupervised self driving for a while and its too early to be clear that fast scaling is going to happenmaybe when there are like 3k unsupervised teslas (i.e. more than Waymos currently) or whatever the number happens to be if/when Tesla surpasses Waymo in number of cars
>>16913718A cross country drive that is 99.9% going along interstates and then an occasional pull off to a charging station on a turnoff is not very impressive. Most vehicles with a high level self driving can probably do this. When it can spend a day driving around LA or NY with 0 disengagements I will be more convinced. I think Elon shot himself in the foot with the no lidar thing.
>>16913728>*shifts goalpost*so when spacex has a base on the moon you'll say it doesnt count because it only has 1000 people instead of a million?
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2023087411287269526
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2023079862227870004
>>16913729>He really thinks SpaceX is building a base on the moonKek everyone got conned bro there is no mars cities or moon base alpha, just a dump truck rocket for launching starlink satellites to profit off bringing billions of browns online and scam investors with orbital data centres.Also the future belongs to China anyway.
>>16913728>When it can spend a day driving around LA or NY with 0 disengagements that has been the case for a while (i.e. a day with no disengagements)but that itself is still a bit different than true unsupervised because a days driving in a city isn't that many miles
https://x.com/BoosterTribe/status/2022990093326393830clip
the military is testing a new type of portable nuclear reactor, the Ward250. it uses a new type of uranium composite for fuel, which is much safer and stable than regular uranium used in traditional nuclear plants. if the military can fit it onto cargo planes then spacex can fit it onto starship for space colonies.https://www.twz.com/uncategorized/this-is-a-nuclear-reactor-packed-into-a-c-17-globemaster-iii
>>16913739the nuclear power subreddit is saying the company are scammers and dont prove any of their claims, like a second coming of theranos
>>16913727its a matter of time until Tesla has a fleet of million cars roaming around the country without a driver
>>16913728you say this, but if I could sleep in my car while it drives me across the country instead of taking a flight I would absolutely do that. I travel for work and the ~8 hour mark is where I opt to fly instead of drive because it's just too much driving. the flight ends up taking the same amount of time or maybe even more because of all the airport BS and you still need to rent a car at your destination
Staging>>16913749>>16913749>>16913749
>>16913543It's kinda funny seeing them next to real trucks
>>16913689>statistically it's impossible for there not to be anyI'd like to see these statistics.
>>16913739why the fuck is this so hard to do, we have nuclear powered submarines but can't do this commerically, sounds like political bureacracy, it really makes no sense especially with the huge demand to power data centers and with a trump presidency
>>16913670>Boomers say things like "soft times create soft people",And they are right, but they failed to realize that they are the soft people.
