how do i take good notes?
>>16912009slipbox aka zettelkasten
>>16912009Write yout shit under the topic it belongs to.>>16912012Meme shit.
>>16912009First get some proper paper, like Midori MD Cotton or Yamamoto Soliste. Then get a proper Montblanc or Visconti pen. A craftsman is only as good as his tools.
>>16912058ragebait, total bs
>>16912076Good medicine is bitter to swallow. Michelangelo wouldn't have any masterpieces if he was sculpting frozen turds with a rusty nail. His best efforts would still be shit.If want to take great notes, and you believe in yourself and what you're doing, you start taking it seriously and getting the right tools.
>>16912009Date all of your notes. If you use loose leaf sheets, then number the pages. Use loose leaf.Label your notes with the course code, subject, etc. Write every other line, so you can add and correct stuff. Retyping into latex/digital notes, especially trying to deconstruct the arguments in your own words, is obviously beneficial. If you're doing STEM, it's better to focus on doing problems.
>>16912104>Date all of your notes.but in the sensible year-mm-dd format, and not the retarded mm-dd-year. That way when you're flipping through notes trying to a certain days lecture, your eye can easily follow the last two digits, instead of having to spot digits in the middle of a string.
I don't take notes anymore. I never understand them anyway.
>>16912080Yeah but that's a Zebra and a composition notebook, I'd require producing money or enjoying the potential skilll before an investment.Like going from a BBBarfly to a hobby flipper.
>>16912349This. Taking notes is a naive endeavour. Do you really think you will look at them again? Being fully focussed onto the thing yields more than writing it down while hearing. (Except some dates, figures) Its smarter to reconstruct at home and then compare to similar notes of other people
Write notes only when doing active recall.
>>16912055.>>16915212>>16915228>>16912076i agree with you guys.the zettelkasten and the PKM concept in general is all meme. i spent more time worrying about doing it correctly or dreaming about doing it correctly (whatever "it" means) instead of just sitting down and paying attention. we have good memories, especially if we pay attention instead of anxiously writing notes the entire time they (a teacher) talk. notes are only useful when you create them after paying attention.in other words:recall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything elseif you want to learn things you have to (0) want to learn, (1) pay attention, (2) do it, (3) accept failure, and (4) practice recallnotes are buffers, meant to be used temporarily. they are NOT your final product! the final product is your understanding and your notes are static.Socrates was correct when he believed that writing was bad for our memories. When you rely on writing, you only seem wise and intelligent. Of course, writing is used as a tool, but anymore than that and it has diminishing returns.And materials don't matter (too much). Investing in a good pen is nice---makes you want to write more---but ultimately it's a distraction.
Start in summary: Subject/topic, names, dates, events, subtopics/contributing events/resulting events. Short definition of each. Notes guide your study. Understand who did what, why, how, and what resulted. Be able to name and say what each is and why it exists. Testing validates your ability to organize and digest the information and to understand the concepts that are being communicated in the work. Working knowledge of theory (calculating amperes) and understanding the theory (what amperes are, who, why, etc) are different. Memory of knowledge will fail, knowledge of theory will prevail and test better. The end goal is knowing the thing, not remembering it. If you know it you never need to remember. Someone say this better and not retardedly.
>>16912009use anki my sister is a med student she memorizes everything uses active recall and pillages
I personally always found note-taking distracting. Feels like I retain less when my attention is divided between scribbling notes on paper and *actually listening to the lecture.*Only time I would write anything down is for specific numbers that I couldn't derive from first principles based on the concept the instructor was discussing.
>>16915365whats pillaging
>>16915257This obviously would fail in fields like math/physics, no? It's way too vast and complicated. You'd be starting over every day without notes, but I could be wrong. Any students of math/phys want to chime in?
>>16915748In math and physics, you do problems. Full stop. All other stuff is distraction.
>>16915257>>16915748I wanted to add that notes should primarily be for notions one does not understand. If I were tackling a math book, I would write a summary of what I understand, very short summary, just to put things into context. The next part would be questions entirely, things that don't click or don't make sense. But I generally agree, things that one understands shouldn't require notes (except summaries for context). Thoughts??
>>16915752Nice way to see it, I like this too. It's not as easy as said though, especially when dealing with old books from the 19th century that come with no exercises at all and these books are just a part of your theory. When you (attempt) to put everything together to create something new, you have to make the exercises yourself. :( I think another approach is computational. If you can model it visually or numerically, you're standing on safe ground imo.
>>16912009Exactly how your picture depicts. A fountain pen and nice notebook.
My research advisor relies on a Staedtler Mars Technico 2mm, a pile of A4 sheets, and a lead pointer nearby.
>>16915759Come up with your own questions.
>>16912104>number the pagesoh boy let me just interlace an additional singular sheet of notes for one day that I missed or for relevancy OH SHIT FUCK WHAT DO I REALLY HAVE TO RENUMBER ALL OF MY PAGES
>>16915752>overgeneralizing research topics inside of high school level topics
>>16917149We are talking about loose leaf sheets, right? That's normal practice. Like you don't only used 1 piece of paper per lesson or study session. You use several. I usually needed 3-5 sheets per lecture. So to organize it and not confuse the order. You need: the dates, the context (class code, subject, book title abbreviation like SICP), and the page/sheet numberIf you want to add extra notes in between, you can always start with from the last number. Or add a decimal in between like 2.1 and so on. But imo it's better to start fresh with a new date and a new piece of paper. If you want to add a lot of random shit. Consider retyping or reword the notes into word/latex.
only write down what isnt in the slides
it's simple, just get into the zettelkasten deathkult
>>16917003This guy doodles.
