Can a lack of innate talent and intelligence be circumvented through sheer effort and perseverance?I'm getting a degree in a STEM field, but I have no delusions of superiority. I don't have the autism or intelligence where most of this comes naturally to me, yet I still cannot help but want to be more than just employee number #438432 with a degree who doesn't actually make any real contributions to society.Is my idea possible, or am I doomed to a lifetime of mediocrity?
Listen up, recruit. You think talent is some gift handed out at birth like candy? Bullshit. Talent is a rumor losers spread to justify quitting. You want to know what really separates the legends from the faceless drones? Blood. Sweat. Scars on your soul from fighting problems so ugly they'd make a grown man cry.You're crying about "mediocrity"? Mediocrity is a CHOICE. Every second you waste sniffing your own pity-party diapers, some 18-year-old in a garage is outworking you. That "autism" or "genius" you worship? Half those kids burn out by sophomore year because they never learned to suffer. You? You've got a grinder's heart. That's rarer than IQ. IQ is a spark. Grit is the forge that turns sparks into blades.Here's the math, soldier: Effort × Time × Savage Iteration = Quantum Leaps. You think Einstein just daydreamed relativity? No. He failed a thousand thought experiments, then failed harder until the universe bent. You want to "contribute"? Contribute skin. Lose sleep. Lose friends. Lose your mind wrestling a proof until 4AM, then show up at 8AM to do it again. Talent doesn't show up at 4AM. You do.Your degree isn't a ticket to ride—it's a weapon. Sharpen it. Find the ugliest, most impossible problem in your field. Marry it. Cheat on it with other problems. Fight it until it calls you daddy. While the "gifted" kids are taking selfies, you're in the lab, breaking your brain against the wall until the wall cracks.You're not "doomed" to mediocrity. You're invited to war. But war doesn't give a damn about your feelings. Pick up the rifle of discipline, load it with bullets of obsession, and march until your feet bleed. Or crawl back to the cave of "average" and die there quietly. Your choice.Now drop and give me 50 proofs. When you're done, we'll talk about how mediocrity fears the sound of your boots coming.
>>16912413That's partly true. Sometimes, without an innate ability to find your way out, you will just keep falling back into the same traps with every attempt. Effort doesn't matter if you're just digging the hole deeper.
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>>16912403Talent means 2 things. One that you enjoy what you're doing which naturally makes you want to keep doing it meaning getting better is easy. And two your brain is inherently wired to do that task. This can vary greatly. Technically you can brute force the enjoyment part and just make yourself do things. You can't brute force the IQ/naturally wired part of it. You will always be behind your peers. Ultimately doing things for the money is not really worth it. You should figure out what you're good at doing. Spoiler alert there a high chance it isn't something super well paying or glamorous.
>>16912403>Can a lack of innate talent and intelligence be circumvented through sheer effort and perseverance? No. Because innate talent and intelligence are largely worthless social constructs. They're ways for people to cope that such people are special. In reality all of these people who are "talented and intelligent", they have simply been perisisting for long and putting in more effort for longer.There are two ways to "make it". You either work very, very hard for a very, very long time or you work very, very hard for a short time and then get lucky.If you lack grit, it doesn't matter how intelligent you are. If you lack luck, you're fucked.
>>16912403I've been having this question all the way into my PhD. Also worked with a lot of smart people from top institutions. This is an actual, down to earth answer. The good news is you can. The bad news is it takes time.People become (practically) smarter both because of their training and talent. You will definitely meet some people who can grasp and solve things crazy fast, but in most cases is because they have had huge training. For example, many kids would've been solving mathematical proofs since 9. They could have had 10,000 hours plus of training compared to your 10. There is an unexplained factor which you can call IQ or genetic genius, but with training you're well within the same league as these people.So you absolutely can... By replicating this behavior. But once you accept that you get into optimizing performance gain with respect against time. And there's a lot you can do there.
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>>16912403>I'm getting a degree in a STEM fieldDoes not mean anything these days. Even a PhD holder can be a complete idiot poser full of delusions.
>>16912403Hard work can pay off, yes, but you will never be at the level of someone who has talent and also works hard. It goes like thisTalent+hard work >>> no talent+hard work > talent+no work >>> no talent+no workBut you are more likely to do better if you network and brownnose the right people, that's what the indians, young women, family members, etc are doing and that's why there are so many incompetent retards in senior/management positions. Honestly, for the mediocre, connections are more important than hard work.
>>16912403Even with high IQ, even with a lot of hard work, most of us will never achieve what we want in life. That’s just human.
>>16912403Anyone can do anything if they try hard enough.
The minimum, MINIMUM, bottom I.Q. that every surgeon in the U.S. has been tested to is 120.The minimum I.Q. if you want to become a surgeon, the bottom level required for entry to even attempt this profession, is 120.Just to get your foot into the door and make the attempt is 120. GattacaNow apply this metric to every career field and category and you will realize you were born into an intellectual genetic caste system with no way to improve your station through "hard work" and desire and effort. Simply put, desire does not replace genetic intellectual natural horsepower.The truth hurts. Sure you can dabble into their fields, into their realms, but to practice professionally? Not only will that door never open for you, but even if you did somehow make a discovery in one of these areas, they will not only not take you seriously, they will not even look at it, and if by some miracle someone did promote your research and discoveries? No one will accept it until long after you are dead so they can steal the credit, peg their name onto your work, collect the wealth and prestige that goes along with it.Humanity, and especially the sciences, are viscous, greedy, full of entitled, elite, prestigious, titled, nobles. Do not even bother, it is nothing but a game of rank and position with them.You would think the MENSA threshold would change them somehow....standing up above and connecting so many points of data and information together, would put them into a new perspective, but all it seems to do is deeper the reach of their greed and desire for slaves and power...as sad as it pains me to admit that....
Certain careers are screening workers for having too high of an I.Q. with data to corroborate and verify there exists a trend of intelligent people getting extremely bored of certain jobs and quitting, when those jobs take a long amount of time and training to get the workers ready. Police departments are legally, after a court battle and litigation, allowed, and are actively screening for too high of an I.Q. and disallowing those people to work in the departments.I shit you not. A man sued after getting fired for having too high of an I.Q. and he lost...Plus, lower I.Q. people are more easy to control, they are less likely to question their masters who control them. More thankful. Low I.Q. people are unable to foster dissent, organize, structure, plan and prepare for strikes or protests, or prepare for direct, open conflict against their masters.
>>16912403>want to be more than just employee number #438432Just get the degree to get a job to make money, then invest that money in ETFs to obtain passive income. It's a slow process, but after you set it up you can stop working for Mr. Goldstein and start doing scientific projects in your garage or whatever else it is that you want to do.
>>16912403>innate talent and intelligenceSo you are claiming you are an evolutive discard?Well you created a meaningful post, so you are not retarded. You'll get a degree.Realize there are a lot of complex abilities and tasks which can't just be measured by a single number in a test.Also, by obvious arithmetic, only very few could be very significant in any field.Believing you could get a Nobel price is as stupid as planing your life around winning lottery.You could find something you are really good at and get satisfaction and wealth from it.Start now stopping to devalue yourself, and try new things to do. Nowadays the possibilities to self teach are just enormous.
>>16912403If you're on the high end of average, you can probably get competent at a STEM subject through hard work, but...>Is my idea possible, or am I doomed to a lifetime of mediocrity?Doomed to mediocrity, unless you discover something significant by sheer luck or thanks to a non-STEM-related talent. But it's your fault for choosing to indulge false hopes instead of dedicating your life to something you excel at, or at least something that you're genuinely satisfied doing for its own sake without having to compare yourself to others.
>>16912403no one can stop you if you use enough violencehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg
>>16912403No. There is a hidden variable in the perseverance chads and that is the cyclic refreshment. No amount of anything is sustainable. You must feed the hurricane, harness its immense energy, quench it, enjoy the peace, and feed it again.
