Why is Boston Dynamics so hyped when China has robots doing martial arts and backflips? Compared to this all the Boston Dynamics humanoids look like drunkards and retards. And it's not even AI video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUmlv814aJo
>>16915871>China has robots doing martial arts and backflipswdym, we have it for years now
>>16915871that's both impressive and underwhelming at the same time; there's so many minor corrections for balance that likely happen because the feedback coupling between actuators and sensors is slow and centralized, yet it obviously works and will probably get fasternot sure that can fully solve latency though, but then im also just a bot who doesn't know how bodies work at all because i cant afford one
>>16915871Because bipedal motion is cool to look at but has barely any real world usage.The real battle is about manipulation.
>>16915871>>16915921They actually did a very good job across many areas. The main downside is they are too small and lightweight. So that doesn't solve the problem of putting humanoid robots in human labor positions.Boston Dynamics is still ahead in the goal of making pragmatic robot slaves.
>country with the second most excess labor creates labor replacement devicesWhy? Is it cheaper to clean up robot bodies from factory floor accidents?
>>16915871>doing martial arts and backflips?They have high tech, historical culture citations. body language, human interaction, multifold messages, good choreographic elements, an biculture (chines/western) composition and clear international understandablöe messages in that short performance. Very creative, unseen in UShithole for decades.
>>16915871China is doing Boston Dynamics but with more kung fu flips.The real robot companies are ones that are getting ready to print millions of bots. This will trigger the commies
I am going to go have a look at one of the Tesla robots soon. I walked past the store and it mentioned them but was closed and I couldn't see them through the window. The cost of getting a robot to mimic the slightest human movement is very expensive so all advances in robotics are kinda worth bragging about. To get these fuckers doing human tasks, reliably will cost a lot more billions unless people start sharing research. Problem is everyone wants to the be the first to profitise robot slave farms. The good thing about slow progress is it keeps a lot of people in jobs. There will still be jobs when the robots and AI take over but young people need to start doing things like engineering and stuff. No doubt the military has some pretty sick stuff going on in robotics. We have to take our time with this stuff and usher it in slowly so we don't have half the planet out of work within a few generations. Which is probs why all the billionaires are trying move as quickly as possible and building bunkers as an insurance policy.
>>16915871This is just entertainment, humanoid robots are bad for actual work, them just standing up takes up a lot of processing and energy
>>16915871communism won
>>16917540lol no. these chinkbots are non-autonomous remote controlled toys. I would be more impressed if they could climb stairs on their own (they can't)
>>16917981>these chinkbots are non-autonomous remote controlled toys>China is doing Boston Dynamics but with more kung fu flips.Yes
>>16915871>Western country does a thing>10 Years later China does a thingWow China is 20 years in the future>>16916482>Because bipedal motion is cool to look at but has barely any real world usage.Climbing stairs and walking in irregular terrain has obvious uses in any industry. Most labor is picking things and carrying them somewhere else
>>16918059Industries don't really have irregular terrain, and tracks or wheels work well anyway.Climbing stairs isn't a crucial need at all.
>>16916546Clown show for investment money, nothing is cheaper than human slave labor
>>16918158These aren't "industrial" robots. They are supposed to replace waiters or cleaners or burger flippers or shelf stockers or what ever, as in the vast majority of jobs. That's why they are humanoid, they can be retrofitted into human environments and use human tools without extra costs.
>>16915871Why is it that they always get robots to do backflips and shi? Why do they rarely show robots vacuuming a house, or folding laundry, or loading a dishwasher, or dusting?Is it because the latter tasks (useful) are actually more technically difficult? I'm actually fucking sick of this.
>>16918158>Industries don't really have irregular terrainYes they do. Any factory is basically a huge hangar with hallways and boxes and machines stacked randomly. The floors are not even, theres potholes, obstacles, stairs. Outdoors is much worse, as in construction sites or literal farm fields.I
>>16918194Locomotion is by far the most difficult challenge for a humanoid robot simply because human environment is unpredictable. If a robot can do a backflip it can vacuum floors but if a robot can vacuum floors it may not be able to vacuum floors when it faceplants off the carpet you have. Once you have locomotion down it's fairly simple to bolt on some kind of tool you want it to use and have it perform the actions, it's not like vacuuming is rocket science, roombas have been doing it for decades now
>>16918191>These aren't "industrial" robots. They are supposed to replace waiters or cleaners or burger flippers or shelf stockers or what ever,Imdustrial jobs are about walking, lifting and hauling things. Industrial doesnt mean Le 1970s welding robot arm at Toyota. Consider something like plumbing, almost all the effort is hauling pipes and hoses, pulling the old ones, shoving things into fittings. Same as for any job, same muscles and motions except for the 5 minutes a day where you do something that takes dexterity
>>16918170t. guy who doesn’t know what its like to raise a child as a parentIf what you say were the case, humanity would have zero rebellions under its beltYour refrigerator will never form a political party and vow itself down a war pathWhen it’s cheap enough and strategically possibleYou will be replaced by automationAsk someone about it who has degree in business
>>16918286Industrial tasks are far better suited for robots on threads or rails because it's reasonable to invest to that kind of infrastructure in a place where humans aren't supposed to be in the first place. Amazon warehouses are already full of robots in no human operable areas inside warehouses.Plumber isn't an industrial job. Plumbing manufacturing is and there's no room for walking in a pipe factory.
>>16918194control technique, these backflips, kungfus were almost impossible just few years back. now they can do all that in simulation
>>16918194>Is it because the latter tasks (useful) are actually more technically difficult?Obviously. To do general house chores, you'd need to improvise the appropriate motions in a confined space full of obstacles and fragile objects, as opposed to pre-learned movements on wide, flat, empty fucking stage.
>>16918308>Ask someone about it who has degree in businessSure thing. When I see someone with a facial structure like pic related I'll ask what their religion says about this. :^) I wonder if any of those business cretins are getting fired now that companies are backpedaling on """AI""" adoption due to zero or negative RoI.
>>16918312>Industrial tasks are far better suited for robots on threads or railsThe real world isnt that. What the fuck do you even mean humans are not supposed to be where? In a factory? In a warehouse?Not everywhere is an amazon warehouse, most industries are located in generic buildings, not something custom made. Just buildings with easy access for trucks and other types of freight, with machinery and storage inside plan concrete buildings.Thats only for manufacturing, service jobs require travel to do field work.
>>16918328Nearly 100% of actual industry is performed in a building that has a flat floor which is what you need for threads. 100% of industry is also productive enough that it's worth installing things like location sensors and digital tags so your robot really doesn't have to be all that intelligent or capable of travelling on anything other than threads. Service jobs aren't industrial jobs, if you get your hair cut in an assembly line I guess I'm sorry for you.
All labor is about lifting. Some simpler hoist-trolley device with multi-purpose clamps on a chain would make all labor much easier. No need for automation, although it would be nice if it was real.
>>16917623>communism wonIt always does...Humanity is a social species. If individuals weren't working together, we'd still be loner monkeys throwing poop in the jungle and eating bugs.Humans are multicellular organisms. If cells weren't working together, we'd still be single-cell nanomachines living at the whim of our surroundings.
>>16918490>implying humans can only work together under communismGo back to pol faggot. Or come up with /sci/ ways to kill more commies.
why do amrerican shills call american companies by name but they call chinese companies "china" instead? why are they scared of saying unitree?
>>16915871Boston dynamics are taking the big brain theory first approach whereas the chinks are taking the move fast and break shit approach.If history tells us anything the Chinks approach is the better method at optimising towards the best solution for "free" market capitalist societies.Boston will be the more advanced, all round robot but it will be super expensive and not widely adopted because of it.Meanwhile the chinkbots will be cheaper, more "stupid" in that they can only do one or two things but they'll be everywhere.
They can do flips but they're a decade away from something like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5mYMavctMChina focused on impressing thrid worlders on tiktok instead of creating robots that can actually do useful tasks autonomously.
>>16918782>Boston dynamics are taking the big brain theory first approachNo. Boston Dynamics is actually the dumb brain + manual control theory. Its the same thing Chinese do but Chinese are doing it with much faster.The big brain approach is one that is being adopted by Tesla. Big brain, big eyes, mass production scale.
>>16918059it has uses in fantasy land, yes, if you could make actual humanoid robutts that work good then that would be usefulhowever you can't, it's just a big fat retarded memescience fiction != reality
>>16918770China is the constant variable, the scams never last long enough to remember the names
>>16917540>This will trigger the commiesChinese companies seem to be the fastest scalers. Unitree plans to produce 20k humanoid robots in 2026.When it comes to industrial robots, Chinese companies are huge producers. According to the IFR 2025 report, 54% of global industrial robot installations were in China, and Chinese companies now have 57% domestic market share, which means Chinese companies have at least 31% global market share. Also, the Chinese own KUKA now.
>>16919583Have Figure demonstrated it live, in front of an audience, in a non-staged environment, including all the times it failed?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SnWlYzkl2IQChangbots can't move this naturally.
>>16919788China is capitalistic. The communists are in the west
>>16918194What about juggling seven apples while walking across a balance rope?
These are all remotely controlled with some pre-programmed moves.
>china lobot do spinning tiger thousand iron monkey crescent century kick! clip get many view on tiktok!Very implessive, Zhang. However https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc2y0yb89U
