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Peer support group edition.

Previous Thread: >>16894981

This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
>Discussion on academia-based career progression
>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia
>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!
>If you have a question, before posting, read some of the older posts and ,if you can, try to answer their questions on your post. That way the thread isn't an endless log of unanswered questions.

Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists:
>https://www.thefire.org/ (US)
>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada)

Information resource:
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
>*The Chad author is seeking additional input to diversify the content into containing all STEM fields. Said author regularly views these /scg/ threads.

No anons have answered your question? Perhaps try posting it here:
>https://academia.stackexchange.com/

An archive of some of the previous editions of /scg/:
http://warosu.org/sci/thread/15740454
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Why is the job market basically non existent in europe and why is it getting worse. Even finding a proper STEM internship is hard. Curse you economy.
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>>16916444
Because financialization economy doesn't work long-term and we've run out of road to kick the can down.
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I have been betrayed so many times by colleagues
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>>16916556
Many colleagues?
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>>16916574
And untrustworthy interlocutors
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I hope my supervisor falls down a flight of stairs
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I'm aggression maxxing in preparation to change my supervisors life for ever in Rio in a few months
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>>16916381
What's your signal it's time to leave the startup as an employee?
For me, it's when a (((chief of staff))) is hired. Bonus points if they worked in (((USA))).
Second signal is when women comprise more than 10% of the workforce.
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>>16916444
nice digits
>interns
are a liability
they distract the experienced staff and produce unreliable results
if you don't have at least some experience by now it is so over it never even began
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I'm a failed engineer who HATES the industry. Do I still have a chance to steer and get into research? I don't care about how much it takes I don't want to sell my soul
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Alright just cracked and started learning Chinese. Maybe Zhang et al. will take me.
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Is clout chasing on social media the only way to make it in academia these days?
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how do i overcome lazyness
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>>16917417
you are gonna end up in the industry eventually its not worth going to research thats my opinion, you can ask other researchers i think most of them will have the same opinion
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I'm going to finish my MsC in Mathematics next year, how long until I get a 6-figure industry job with flexible hours and meaningful work?
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I was thinking of going to University for Civil Engineering but I feel to old for it. I'm gonna be 23 when I start and will be doing 5 years (Foundation + Sandwich year) and I will be 28 just to get graduate positions and that is kinda putting me off.
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>>16917447
In 5 years you are going to be 28 no matter what, with or without an Engineering degree, your choice.
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>had a zoom interview with famous prof with h-index > 150
>only asked me a few questions about myself
>sounded unimpressed with my answers and bored the entire time
>told me only admits PhD students, not MS and my grades aren't high enough to get a direct admit
>sent up a follow-up email a few days after the meeting
>still no response, probably got ghosted
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>>16917441
300 feet starting any rooftop you want.
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>>16917472
>ghosted

He told you to your face that you won't be admitted.
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>>16917472
you probably don't want to work for that guy anyway if he cant even be bothered to put on an act to recruit new students. Trust your gut regarding advisor. Most people disregard advice when selecting an advisor and dont put too much thought into it. For example people will join an advisor when you can pull up alumni and like half mastered out including a couple 8th years, meaning not only will you have a bad advisor but you're going to have idiots in your lab.
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>>16917417
My first 4 jobs after I graduated were fucking horrible. I've been at my 5th job for 4 years and I've settled in. You just have to keep job hopping until you find something that doesn't suck. It's brutal but that's how it is. There are a lot of engineering jobs that are total dogshit.
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I've never understood this whole "being impressed by people" thing. As a rule I am not impressed by other people, especially men. Undignified behaviour if we are being honest.
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>>16917447
the time will pass anyway
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>>16917447
If you don't want to flip burgers or manning a lathe for 12h a day in your 40s, go and do it. Having a degree is essential if you want to be promoted out of manual labor and doing classes at that age will be even harder.
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>>16917417
These days research is not much different from industry
>both have clear success metrics: papers in "good" (((journals))) or checkmarks in a psychopath manager's list
>both are death march machines designed to churn through hapless individuals
>both are riddled with office politics
>>16917535
>My first 4 jobs after I graduated were fucking horrible.
Story?
My first jobs were not terrible (subjectively).
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>>16917472
>sounded unimpressed with my answers and bored the entire time
I'll be real: when I talk to the guys doing BSc or even MSc in my field, I often wonder if they are even sentient. Most do basic mistakes and cannot reason properly. That's coming from a PhD since a few years ago, I imagine it's way worse for a professor who has to wrangle posers on a daily.
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>>16917655
My biggest problem as a new grad was getting hired at these smaller companies that had no training system in place, and then just sitting at my desk doing nothing for weeks on end while everyone else was working. I usually ended up just walking out of those jobs because I couldn't handle the tedium and resented how idiotic it was. That happened to me 3 times and I would never consider working for a small company again.
The other job was a field service position and that was too brutal for me. Rotating days/nights and 12 hour shifts. Just horrible, constant suffering and dread. I kept thinking "I went to school for this?"
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>>16916381
I'm probably a psychopath but i really enjoy TAing.
I love throwing curve balls and seeing students despair.
I had to do an oral pass/fail assignment and I really REALLY enjoyed asking the students questions they didn't expect and weren't prepared for.
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>>16917824
don't be annoying pookie
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>>16917447
>gonna be 23 when I start
Not a problem by a wide margin.
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>>16917814
Definitely had a similar experience in working with a smaller company. Onboarding was basically "here's your desk, here's your laptop, should get you started see you in a month". It was extremely uncomfortable, took around half a year to really get in the groove.

The plus side is that I can basically have my dick hanging out my pants and clock in/out more or less whenever and nobody gives a single shit. I also stand out well despite being in a mental state that leaves me barely functional because everyone here is incompetent.

I'm still looking to leave because I keep getting assigned projects that take my career in a direction I don't want to go and which are not what I signed up for. That, and being decent at FAGMAN is a better deal than being amazing at Tom's Mom and Pop Semiconductor Shop. There's no future here.
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learning python what are my options with bachelors in mech engineering msc in engineering management. had 2 year work experience as a quality officer in manufacturing plant
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>>16917814
>just sitting at my desk doing nothing for weeks on end while everyone else was working
That's really weird, no way they'd just let you do nothing after hiring. Normally you'd be assigned to whatever project they are working on and you'd learn the ropes on the go. That's how it always was for me and people I knew.



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