why doesn't the electron fall into the nucleus /sci/? isn't that kinda weird? moving charges radiate and lose energy, so they should fall into the nucleus
>>16918772We don't know. Some thinkers think it has to do with consciousness which uses the free will to not fall into the nucleus.
>>16918772because quantum mechanics. but you already know that because you're shitposting.
>>16918784>because muh mathematical equationa physical explanation please. I understand quantum mechanics, but it doesn't explain shit, it just helps you make calculations
>>16918787The actual explanation is that the electron loses energy if you only look at it materialistically but it is continuously getting consciousness energy waves from platonic heaven to compensate for the loss of energy.
>>16918795>consciousness energy waves from platonic heaveninteresting. can you describe the experimental setup you used to measure this?
>>16918797There's been research done and it's on the internet for anyone who is open minded to look into. I learnt this from other intelligent posters here. Keep seeking the truth.
>>16918798paper or gtfo
>>16918801You can take a horse to the water...
>>16918787>but it doesn't explain shit, it just helps you make calculationsyes, that is what all our theories of physics do. they are mathematical equations that describe our measurements of reality.
>>16918787The nucleus is already held up by being above absolute zero and the Planck scale by the gravity on the outside, not itself.
>>16918772It loses potential energy when it moves closer to the nucleus. For energy to remain constant it wins in kinetic energy and flies away again. And it flies away from the nucleus because the Jews who control the world like these two elements to remain caught up in a Hegelian dialectics to profit off of the unresolved conflict.
>>16918787https://ia800108.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/24/items/wikipedia-scholarly-sources-corpus/10.1063%252F1.100061.zip&file=10.1063%252F1.1664631.pdfhttps://ergodic.ugr.es/statphys_grado/bibliografia/lieb3.pdf
>>16918949I clicked that link and now my computer says my hard drive has been encrypted and I gotta pay €10000 to decrypt it?
>>16918992pay up
>it's because physics has to do with bonding>electrons have better things to do>>16918994
>>16918772If I'm remembering correctly, in the radiation zone the electric field is promotional to the time derivative of the dipole operator. But, in an eigenstate, the expected value of of the dipole operator is 0, therefore no radiation.
>>16918772It's not moving charges radiate energy, it's accelerating charges radiate energyThe question is similar to why doesn't the Earth fall into the Sun. The answer is orbit due to kinetic energy. The difference is that at their scale the kinetic energy is always massively big for their size, but usually not sufficient for the proton and electron to merge and form a neutron. So close to each other they just bounce off and either form a orbit or not. If the proton wasn't a big structure relative to electron, but was instead a positron then electron and positron would annihilate each other and the mass would turn to energy(photon)
>this entire threadRetards never learned where the "quantum" part in "quantum mechanics" comes from.
>>16918772Because the energy of the electron is quantized (which means that it is a discrete chunk of energy, in fact the energy of the electron is described by its orbitals),and also in photons the energy is quantized so, the electron lives in an equilibrium, which means that it lives in the minimum energy state at rest. If the energy was continuous then it would continually lose energy until it eventually fell of in the atom.
>>16918772good thread op. no one in the history of science and physics has ever considered this problem with the Bohr model, and it certainly has never been mentioned in introductory textbooks.
>>16919099you learned that after googling what the previous poster said>>16919132>you can't talk about anything if it has been discussed beforewow, what can I talk about then?
>>16918795this!so much this!absolutely and completely irrefutably positively this!science brothers I am ascending to the mystical realms of platonic heaven, be sure to study the phenomenon!
>>16918772When the angular momentum equals 0 (or l=0), the orbital "ground" states are 1s, 2s, 3s, etc. (n=1,2,3,...). Their wavefunction is non-zero at r=0 (you can look the equations up), meaning the "electron is already in the nucleus" (heavy on the parenthesis) in these "ground" states. When electrons are in higher states, they eventually drop down to the lower states as you'd expect unless they're already occupied by other electrons.>moving charges radiate and lose energyAnd which equation tells you that? You know how it's derived right? What equations are those? This is like asking why Newton's gravity isn't explaining Mercury's perihelion; the equation is wrong.
>>16919499Forgot to add, and when l != 0, so like 2p, 3p, 3d, etc., at r=0 the wavefunction is zero, so it isn't in the nucleus, as expected
>>16918772Cause it doesnt fucking exist.Its location is purely estimated and in theory, an electron could be orbiting anywhere between its parent atom, as part of a molecule, or up your/ mine ass.
>>16919099>energy of the electron is quantizedOnly in bounded systems
