Total gateway death - editionprevious >>16919256
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2027456699175497741
"Hey hey' *starts to cry*
>>16922403>no JAXA rover pictured uh oh
Alright stop, collaborate and listenIssc is back with my brand new invention
Centaur V? Are they out of their Vulcan mind?
>>16922409How are they going to pull this off with Vought trying to strangle NASA
Cancel ArtemisMass produce DragonfliesPermanent human base at Titan
>>16922411Those 10 Starship launches are absolutely impossible. The 3 NG might happen.
>>16922414>Those 10 Starship launches are absolutely impossibleAren't we on the 34th test flight
>>1692241515 months to complete all the Starship and Moonship development, plus another 10 for the A3 LEO.
>>16922409Will SpaceX still be doing that uncrewed HLS test landing between III and IV?
does Holden Bloodfeast support SLS?
HLS will never happen
>>16922403Business idea:
>>16922420Only kinetic E2E applications
The real reason human spaceflight will fail, something everyone is missing, is that it literally makes you schizo.https://x.com/i/status/2026654828676415560Every astronaut eventually goes cuckoo for cocoa puffs
>>16922418There's chatter at NSF that those 10 launches to fuel HLS after A3 and send it off for a test landing.
hot take, issacman is in the pit of stupidity of his bravery in challenge the status quo, he needs to go a step further and just cancel SLS. it's not like following congress is a thing nowadays
>>16922430Void madness! Many such cases.
China only had a single launch in February and they don't seem to have any launches lined up in March. What happened? Is the Chinese collapse finally happening?
>>16922437What a launchWhat a landing
https://youtu.be/aezcXjKYZkM?t=500Does anyone have the full show Galileo antenna show?
>>16922424cuck karts
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/the-air-forces-new-icbm-is-nearly-ready-to-fly-but-theres-nowhere-to-put-them/
>>16922432That sounds retarded. The last thing he needs is to paint a target on his back in the coming years.
>>16922447When did they rename the Minuteman IV?
>kairos cancelled due to winds being too low compared to what was anticipated
>>16922456>wind = scrub>not enough wind = scrubWhat do they want
cryo testing
>>16922458The right wind
>>16922456unironically how is that a problem?
>>16922461It isn't a fucking sailboat just send the goddamn thing
>>16922459inb4 it pops
>>16922412It wouldn't look like that btw. If you actually lived on Titan you'd probably want to kill yourself
>>16922430>NASA/Boeing Starship mishaphuh?
>>16922430>>16922434We clearly need more crewed missions farther from Earth's sanity field to figure out how to deal with void madness. If I were the head of a space agency I would be sending one way trips to Saturn before 2026 ends.
>>16922456I watched the scrub and they didn't say that at all. You sure you didn't get confused?
Am I going crazy here, flight 12 is totally happening this monthwtf do these people know that I dont
>>16922492More likely to be late April than any time in March.
>>16922487Faith is the only sure protection against the whispers of the void
>>16922493sheiiiithey're testing the fuck out of it aren't they
>>16922493>>16922495anyway I'm not selling fuck it, might actually buy some more at this price and take the gamblelaunch.live still has it March
>>16922496>anyway I'm not selling fuck it, might actually buy some more at this price and take the gambleI do not recommend it. It's going to test for a while.
Over at NSF, they're discussing using a Super Heavy mod as Depot. Not sure what that gains SpaceX over using a Starship mod:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50157.msg2764897;topicseen#new
>>16922492sls and starship are both NET april
>>16922499More volume.
>>16922499SSTO super heavy?
>>16922513Stack two heavies
So when the fuck is anything launching????? I've been OOL. Why is nothing happening? Any dates anyone?
>>16922518SpaceX is going a lot further to make sure everything on Starship V3 actually works. They've been building new test stands for it and everything. Pad 2 looks just about ready. Probably a few weeks of testing everything and then they're going to try to launch.
>>16922518NASA has only launched SLS once three years ago and don't remember how to do anything. SpaceX can't afford another fuck up and are being extra careful.
>>16922451>Minuteman IV>manThat's why, probably a tranny forced the rename
>>16922451From its inception. Sentinel was never named Minuteman and has no design or engineering heritage from the Minuteman.
Starlinkhttps://x.com/i/broadcasts/1AxRnaZZAPVxl
>>16922529not watching it lol
>>16922525Minutemaam IV
>>16922529Not Spaceflight.
Another one
Webcast end without comment on the initial orbit state.
>>16922539thanks for the play-by-play
>>16922541Starshield launch
>>16922552More like Shartshilled
Partially reusable, Crew rated Orion launcher (CROL): Super Heavy first stage, enlarged Falcon upper stage with a cluster of Merlin 1D Vacs. Thoughts?
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/202806670286568658825 Starlinks deployed.>>16922558Would over-G the EUS. New Glenn is being looked at instead.
>>16922562They really are the tortoise aren't they
How big is our cargo advantage compared to the Chinese?
>>16922573how is it that the chinese rocket can go directly to the moon but sls cant?
>>16922575VERY long story short, Orion is a lot heavier because during the Constellation program the Earth Departure Stage was envisaged to get Orion to the moon and insert it into lunar orbit, so the service module is underpowered. But we cancelled the EDS and Altair lander and left Orion as is. As a result it can only get into NRHO.
>>16922354It's called Artemis
>>16922414>NG can definitely make 3/3 lunar landings after two semi-successful launches>Impossible for SpaceX with over 600 successful commercial launches to do orbital refuelingkill yourself, retard
>comparing a flight proven rocket to one that can't even get it up (to orbit)muskrats truly are the lowest form of life on earth.
>>16922583it's a good thing we have two big space companies working on low boil off and cryo transfers. Hopefully there is some kind of knowledge sharing here so we can further accelerate this innovation.
>>16922410Question: in the past, NASA put out a request for contractors to submit their offers for possible Exploration Upper Stage replacements to alleviate time and costs.They laughed at the BO offer and told BO to get fucked. How does Centaur V not also have this issue??Will they not have toa) heavily modify the VAB,and b) unfortunately, construct a THIRD trillion-dollar launch tower for SLS because the new M2 will be completely incompatible?
>>16922403Well it's a shame that sls wasn't outright cancelled, but I'll take gateway being taken out behind the shed and shot.
Cancel Gatew— oh…
>>16922406>from 2 and a half to 5 months between launches to hopefully 1 a yearThat's kind of pathetic. At this point they should just ask SpaceX (and maybe Blue) to launch everything.
>>16922591Centaur uses the RL10 which has very low thrust (<25k lbf). The truth is they just designed Orion with comical levels of rigidity and pork.
>>16922424we need vampires to invent mechahorses first
>>16922406>more capable than all others>cheaper than shuttle and SLS>extremely high launch cadenceWe could have literally just skipped shuttle and kept flying Saturn and it would have been cheaper and better.
>>16922593Next on the agenda: cancel Starship.
Somebody explain to me how boeing is going to do one SLS launch a year when they so far have only manged to do one in a decade?
>>16922597I understand that reference. Also need classical radio antennas and gothic rockets.
>>16922488I listened to the post-scrub news conference as an EOP and translated some of the reactions to it on X and that was the impression I got.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlseE8raJ6wThis morning some actual articles are out.https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4e42ad8d8cd061b4a1c40b78e4d250cc00c1226f>Rocket launch canceled due to "weak" winds. On the 1st, private rocket company Space One explained that the launch of the third small rocket, Kairos, was canceled 30 minutes before the scheduled launch, saying, "The winds were weaker than expected at an altitude of around 10 kilometers, where air resistance becomes stronger." You might think, "If the winds are weak, then surely it's safe?" but it seems it's not that simple.>According to Kozo Abe, head of public relations at Space One, strong westerly winds (jet streams) tend to occur in the winter, and the flight path was determined based on past data on this, but on the 1st, the weather conditions were like those of early spring, and the winds weakened.>Abe explained, "For example, we estimated the headwind to be 60 meters per second, but it was actually only about 30 meters per second, so there was a huge discrepancy.">The problem with wind is not the strength of the wind, but rather the difference from what was expected. Even a slight change in the way the wind hits a long, slender rocket can change the way it sways and the forces acting on it, and if it moves in an unexpected way, there is a risk that the separation points of the stages could be damaged.>The decision was made 30 minutes before launch because the wind conditions in the sky need to be confirmed by observations immediately before launch. Space One is considering the 4th as the earliest date for its next launch.
>>16922599if only
>>16922599It's not cheaper but yes if we kept using it eventually it would have been. Check this out: LOX tank that acts as a pneumatic piston to keep the orientation of the stage upright so the engines wouldn't touch the saltwater.
>>16922632>It's not cheaperShuttle was more
Chinese research team has pinpointed stable water-ice regions at the lunar south pole, which serve as candidate landing areas for this year's mission. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/ae3c86
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2028006222419447947>Starship 39 during cryo proof testing tonight at Starbase Massey's test site in preparation for upcoming Starship test flight 12. This is the first Version 3 Starship.
>>16922583 Here's why Elon launching his own pay phones on a F9.to LEO is the same thing as launching a reusable Starship to the Moon. Herp Derp!
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2028132070883463187
https://x.com/FelixSchlang/status/2028130406785048897>Blue Origin acquired the old Cocoa site where SpaceX built the Florida Mk2 Starship back in the day.>Cleanup has already started!
>>16922675https://x.com/John_Winkopp/status/2027854860171739608>Work to prep the Cidco Road Facility has already begun days after Blue Origin purchased the former SpaceX Starship facility in Cocoa Florida. 1st picture shows the site at the peak of production just before the end of Starship production in Florida.
>>16922676https://x.com/John_Winkopp/status/2027859241273376822>Building Starships out in the open at a muddy-mosquito infested facility just one reason SpaceX gained so many fans.
I love how Musk's approach is just add more engines and stretch the boosters
>>16922675copycat
>>16922577 #"Altair -- now that's a name I've not heard in a long time..."
https://x.com/FireflySpace/status/2028135477467885579>The Alpha Flight 7 team is working through the final steps ahead of the Stairway to Seven as we continue to monitor high upper-level winds. Our two-hour launch window for the test flight opens at 4:50 pm PT tonight, and our livestream co-hosted with NASAspaceflight will begin 20 minutes before liftoff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4UXqDhfEbw
>>16922577It can only get to NRHO if it's launched on a two-stage rocket like SLS. That's where a lot of the issues really come from; Artemis is trying to handle a large, high-energy mission in a single shot on a two stage rocket. If you put it on top of a three stage rocket, like a New Glenn 9x4 with a transfer stage, it can get all the way to low lunar orbit without Orion needing to touch its own propellant.
Instead of doing their work, the substitute teacher shows a movie. You don't hate NASA nearly enough.
>>16922702why are you so angry?
>>16922702We may not be returning to the Moon anytime soon but the tortoises are getting returned.
>>16922707NASA can do more than 1 thing at a time.
>>16922705JPL is firing thousands of employees because they're failing to win or perform on contracts. Maybe focus on that problem instead of having more play days.
>>16922712no, they were being fired because Miller is fucking evil
>>16922708nasa can't even do one thing
>>16922707based, I love tortoises
>>16922708i can pat my head and rub my belly at the same time but that doesn't mean i should play with tortoises.
>>16922717fuck off troll
WTF NOT AGAIN
>>16922723you scared me anon phew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
>>16922723cryo me a river
>>16922723based alternate-reality poster
>>16922672Is that the stubby ship that people were talking about?
>>16922424space suits for horses
>>16922736Goodbye Horseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIr9IDXFfA
>>16922707So Blue Origin was referring about this? When is SpaceX going to return the Ocelot to Boca Chica?
>>16922744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bXB6LP2T_A>Ship 39 survives its first test | SpaceX Starbase
>>16922733its the same ship
another firefly failure in 5 hours btw
Oh yeah. NASA pitched this:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3R_OvX9i7k&pp=0gcJCb4KAYcqIYzv
>>16922751are they trying to speedrun the world's most unreliable rocket title?
>>16922749You can't fool me. This ship is clearly much shorter.
it's clearly a mockup of the Stubby HLS
>>16922768choad HLS looks good, but no way it has enough dV to get to cislunar space, land and take off with any serious down mass.
>>16922770even with refueling?
>>16922737
>>16922776Probably not. The v3 design is in flux, but the mavens that have crunched some probable numbers can't close on a fueled LEO, Land, Launch, LEO flight. Close but not quite.
>>16922770Easiest way to make it close is to move the TLI burn to an expended Starship second stage with chodeship on top.
if starship struggles to get to the moon how will it get to mars
>>16922573LM-10 with SLS paint job.
>>16922800Think the difference is aerobraking at Mars. Supposedly.
>>16922791Could work. 3 stage starship would be kind of an abomination though, and the "everything must be fully reusable" sois would probably have a melty about them discarding stuff.
>>16922800you're asking too many questions anon ;)trust musk
>>16922807if I can't trust Jack In The Box to get my order right how can I trust Elon
>>16922800early issues dont define late stage operations
>>16922573>Moon Rockets.jpgcan those rockets go to the moon?
I miss certain anons on this board.I miss the European schizo who was convinced spacex was a DOD scam to drive ariane out of business.
Somehow Astra is still a company
>>16922839I miss CostPlusContent :(
>>16922839And if it was, Ariane deserved it.
>>16922850He was too based for this world.
>>16922671and doing fuck all for two decades is the same as landing on the moonokay, retard
>>16922406>>16922594It's easy to meet your goals when the president gives you a blank check to beat the soviets.
>test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month">test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month">test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month">test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month">test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month">test launch>"oops we sprung a leak, have to delay a month"
>>16922682>currently on hold to monitor high upper-level winds>KAIROS aborted due to LOW upper-level windsthat's it. We need a plan to remove the upper atmosphere.
>>16922665Do these contain proper ice that you can collect with a shovel, or just shitty hydroxide?
https://x.com/MattDevittWX/status/2028222519115731164>HEADS UP! SpaceX rocket launch *tonight* will likely be visible along the US East Coast (weather permitting in your location). Liftoff time is currently scheduled for 9:56 PM with a 90% Go for launch.
Flying an expendable V3 Super Heavy out of Florida on NASA's budget seems like the obvious choice here. Who cares if it is wasted, NASA has effectively unlimited money and it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than a $4 bil SLS launch. Throw a Centaur V on top who cares
>>16922870congress cares, its not about saving money, its about funneling money to their special interests
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2028284078085087339https://starlink.com/business/mobile
https://x.com/Starlink/status/2028284498555924671
https://x.com/FireflySpace/status/2028286597758640323>Alpha Flight 7 has been scrubbed today due to high upper-level winds that exceed FAA safety parameters. The team will work closely with Vandenberg Space Force Base to determine the next available launch date for the Stairway to Seven test flight. Stay tuned for more information.
REMOVE the FUCKING ATMOSPHERE
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2028288311098261768>SpaceX is preparing for its second Falcon 9 rocket launch of the day. Liftoff of the Starlink 10-41 mission from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is scheduled for 9:56:40 p.m. EST (0256:40 UTC).Starlink launch in T-55:00. Vehicle might be visible in flight if you're on the east coast
>>16922880one of the /sfg/ posts of all time
>>16922880
>>16922856You're really impressed by pay phones. You shouldn't be.
>>16922878>>16922874
Clear Max-Qute!
another one coming right up
it's that shrimple
uh oh, that doesn't look good
27 launches for spacex and it is March 1st. good/bad?
>>16922903Excellent, as far as I'm concerned.
https://x.com/HughE_Dillon/status/2028306647563559017>Very cool to see Space X Falcon 9 launch fly over Philly 10:05pm So was anyone else here able to see it?
>>16922863>>16922865I didn't see it :(Sky was clear, had myself pointed towards Florida but looked around everywhere.Either I'm too blind too inland (~30mi from SC coast), or too much treeline
>>16922907Launching this late there wasn't much to see beyond a orange star fighting its way through the ground clutter. I was able to see it for a bit up in Connecticut but there were a few points where it hit some haze and almost faded out completely.
>>16922910I'm so sorry, anon.
Spacex is a terrestrial telecom company
I was hoping with the success of Falcon 9 that space colonization would actually become real in my lifetime. But now it's obvious that there will never be any serious space travel until someone figures out what UFOs use for their propulsion.
>In the 90s we designed a modular planetary probe that could just slam into a planet or moon without a parachute and survive the impact>It could survive up to 80,000g which means you could even send them to planets or moons with no atmosphere>The whole program cost $28m and the probes themselves cost less than $100k apiece >The only time it flew was on the doomed Mars '98 mission so of course it didn't work because Mars '98 was a clusterfuck >It was promptly forgotten about TFW we could have tiny probes on every solid body in the solar system but NASA bitched out
>>16922596They designed Orion specifically so it would be too heavy for any rocket but SLS. NASA didn't want a private company handling spaceflight. They don't even want the ISS to end and let private companies build LEO stations. That's why Gateway isn't officially canceled yet.
QRD on last two months bros please
>>16922947delays
>>16922947
>>16922936That antennae is tiny how does that even work. Also what’s the power source????
>>16922956Oh I see batteries. Eh
>>16922956>>16922957They were supposed to talk to Mars Global Surveyor over UHF. The probes were battery powered but they carried solar cells to test the viability of future solar powered probes. https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/nmp/ds2/pictures/hardware/110598g.html
>>16922939If they cancel Gateway what the hell are they going to do with that giant propulsion module
>>16922961Cast it into the fires of mount doom
>>16922471
tomorrow I have to drive to NASA to do nothing for 8 hours
shit to look forward to:Starship?Neutron?New Glenn reuse?what else anons
>>16922936NASA's Deep Space 2 microprobes, due to smash into the surface of Mars near the planet's south pole on Dec. 3, have been named Amundsen and Scott in honor of the first explorers to reach the South Pole of Earth.Actually remembered that without google.
>>16922986The NG upgrade with more engines. That could launch some interesting missions.
>>16922986Within the next year or so:Artemis II (surely it has to launch eventually)Relativity Terran RStoke NovaBlue Moon Mk IVast Haven 1 launchMaybe first Dream Chaser launch?Possibly more Chinese booster landing attempts
>>16922994>surely it has to launch eventuallyYou'd be surprised.
>>16922961Crash it into Tehran
>>16922961Using it for what it was supposed to be used, Asteroid Redirect Mission.
>>16922905No, but then I was asleep and in a completely different country so there wasn't much chance of me seeing it.
>>16922994>Vast Haven 1 launchThat's been pushed back to 2027, which I guess could still be technically a year away but I kinda doubt it.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2028390355532644553
>>16922403Chinese astronauts conducted an experiment with mice in the Tiangong space station, they found out that those mice had way more babies per preganancy compared with mice on Earth. So Zero G could help human couples have twins and triplets?
>>16923119
>>16923119>>16923121interesting since there doesn't seem to have been a lot done on this before. ive always been confident that if not freefall/zero G then definitely mars gravity wont pose any issues to human biology including reproduction.
>space force and space command are taking part in the iran war>but no actions against in space itself were mentionedi figured they at least jammed some satellites or something, but maybe not
>>16923133Two Space Force satcom dishes were destroyed.
>cyber command and space command were the first to attack iran, targeting their communication networksmaybe they did jam something
>>16923134
https://x.com/Starlink/status/2028459012363309232
>>16923129Gestation is probably not a problem since the fetus is already floating in amniotic fluid.The real issue here is what happens after birth.
>>16923149https://x.com/SRBednarek/status/2028421851144200589>Great to be working with so many wonderful partners. Real contracts, not memos of understanding.
>>16923150>Gestation is probably not a problem since the fetus is already floating in amniotic fluid.ive seen one study that suggested otherwise in some rats, and theres always the issue of if having a nice 'down' is important for development and especially orientation for a good delivery (head down), but its definitely something that needs proper study
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/former-nasa-chief-turned-ula-lobbyist-seeks-law-to-limit-spacex-funding/>Another former NASA official, Phil McAlister, replied to Bridenstine’s post that it was “disappointing” to see him attach his name to the provision. Instead of promoting competition, McAlister said the new language is actually anti-competitive.>McAlister and other critics of the provision say no one wants a launch monopoly and that NASA has in fact sought to on-ramp new providers through programs such as its venture class services program that allocates payloads to riskier providers. However, they note, as United Launch Alliance has struggled to bring its Vulcan rocket online over the past five years, SpaceX has stepped up to keep the International Space Station flying and launch critical missions like NASA’s $4 billion Europa Clipper spacecraft.
>>16923163NASA has only had one (1) good administrator that I can recall, and it’s James Webb.
>>16923133>>16923134>>16923135>>16923139Not spaceflight.
>>16923135Iran switched to China's Beidou last year. Can still be jammed just requires a lot of power on the ground
>>16923163Billy's pimps;https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/firms/summary?id=F331199&year=2025
>>16923163This guy is a comic book villain level of corrupt.
>>16923152https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/2028501456987263018
>>16923188Mexican pay phones. That's much more exciting than going to Mars.
>>16923193People told them to fix Earth first. With Starlink, you can watch internet porn anywhere you want
https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2028521140344230100
>>16923193this is going to enable mars partly
>>169224035 weeks ago Elon Musk said 6 weeks! Starship will launch next week!!
>>16923197>50 satellites per launch with starship>mid 2027
>>16923203Michael Nicolls, senior vice-president for Starlink at SpaceX, said that Starship would be ready in time to launch a new, upgraded constellation of Starlink’s mobile satellites in “mid-2027”.HissssssA COPV waiting to pounce.
>>16923202A Starship test flight is expected in the next “four to six weeks”, SpaceX’s president Gwynne Shotwell told the FT on the sidelines of the event. Musk had previously suggested in a social media post in January that Starship’s 12th test flight would occur by early March.Then Gwyn started to cry.
Prediction of the future is the best measure of intelligence.
Nicolls said SpaceX hoped to deploy 1,200 satellites within six months of the launch next year, forming a new constellation with improved networking capabilities.Sure. That's -- 20 successful Starship launches in 6 months. By the end of 2027. That will happen.
>>16923211does it have to be orbital to work? starlinks have their own propulsion. can starshit launch them into suborbital and starlinks can coast into orbit on their own power?
Asked whether SpaceX’s priority was to reach the Moon or Mars first, Shotwell said “Elon has talked a lot about the Moon recently, but Mars is his passion,” she said. “Let’s call them co-priorities.”Then Gwyn started to cry.
>>16923210
>>16923210in that case, reddit was right all along. Elon is a moron.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk
It’s happening! Elon says Starship will reach orbit in 6 months and crewed flight next year!
>>16923228Wow. It is really happening.
>>16923228>>16923233surely starship will go orbital this year, right?
>>16923213not enough dv, those things have very very low thrust
>>16923234If Flight 12 is flawless, maybe. If there are problems, probably not.
DSEV
>>16923237Hi, waiter? Yes I’ll have the grift katamari clankship please!
>>16923237are those little RVs to open up spes trailer parks?
>>16923228Green lights to MalibuYes, it could have happened with excessive speeding, no traffic and with all the traffic lights on greenIn other words, if every idea worked flawlessly on time with no delays, changes or anything it could have maybe possibly happened in that time.Still, what they have accomplished they have done far faster than anyone has ever done it but still nowhere near as fast as musk would have wanted it
>artemis forever 2 more months>spacex pivoting to the moon which also won't happen because artemis>starship now basically starlink and xAI launch services>still can't go to orbit>can't go to mars>can't learn japaneseI've been away for the past couple months. Did I miss anything?
>>16923254that pretty much covers it
>>16923232Late as in passed away.
https://x.com/StarlightSolar_/status/2028471703077302434superlight solar panelshttps://payloadspace.com/exclusive-starpath-unveils-new-ultra-thin-space-solar-panels/>The panels are just 73g per square meter, and are priced around $15 per watt.
>>16923260
>>16923260How many years does it last in space?
>>16923258Topkek
>>16923228>>16923233>>16923234>>16923254V3 is the closest to production ready as Starship has ever been.All the infrastructure is coalescing, some of the OG design goals are being achieved, we are finally getting hardware that lets starship actually do dock and refuel plus all the HLS hardware at McGregor. It's no longer just about the core vehiclesTrust the process
>>16923194I want to be able to fap in every remote place on earth Respect my fetish
>>16923228Don't worry!, NASA is sending astronauts to Mars by 1981 and.. oh wait, m-maybe the Russians then will do it with their MPK ship by the 1990s and.. uh oh.
>>16923254>can't learn japanesewhy you gotta twist the knife like that?
>>16922948also a few failures (China and India)and a zillion Starlink launches
>>16923327Why do they make so many of them if they launch so rarely
>>16923334They have barely done anything in these past few months. They either having problems with v3 or they are trying their hardest to make sure it does not end up like v2.
>>16923334Can you even name a rocket, besides Falcon 9, with a higher launch cadence?
>20 years agoit was a different time
>>16923344
>>16923340electron
remember when spacex had to sue ULA to compete against their monopoly?
>>16923197short clip of the starlink sat assembly line? cool
>>16923374Tory Bruno literally stole billions of dollars of taxpayers' money in subsidies yet nobody cared lol what a chad
https://x.com/texas_lizard/status/2028516029240893909
>>16923379what in the videodrome fuck is this
>>16923380that's the rats nest. it's where the engine rats sleep.
>>16923382sleep tight ratto
>>16923382poor little fella, at least he got the chance to go to space, unlike the rest of us plebs which are still trapped in this damn gravity well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ84Fw40nnw>Starship V3 Ship 39 Begins Testing — Artemis III Just Changed | Starship Update
>>16923380The absolute bare fucking minimum I can assure you lmao
Admiral Kuznetsov piping . png
>>16923340Elon paying himself to become the isp of 0.02% of Earth. Wow.
I FUCKING LOVE THE SATURN V
>>16923395the old engineer guy in the SV Moon Machines episode with the eyepatch made me tear up when he was describing how proud they were of that rogget
>Very much subject to change, but we're hearing from KSC folk that there's a target of NET March 19 for SLS to roll back to 39B.>That's still a while away, thus subject to change, but it does point to them having a good grasp of the issue and the resolution path.https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2028616009222082696
>>16923395von Braun...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaE3D5eZ4I_nsty7GeUr4MqVN6KlO7cQD
>>16923397march bros, we gaan
>>16923389>>16923380Gigeresque
>>16923380>>16923389Typically when you see a lot of whacky random asymmetrical tube bending like this (not the jogs in the tubes, those are for vibe and expansion/contraction) it's because the tube is part of a set of tubes that all need to be the same length. Part of the problem with having a rocket with 1 gorillion engines is that you end up with a lot of length-matched tube spaghetti See also: race car exhaust headers
>>16923395I have never seen a Shuttle orbiter (I want to), but I have seen the Saturn V at JSC and it is simply awe-inspiring.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/03/02/data-centres-in-space-less-crazy-than-you-think
Researchers at the German Aerospace Center (DLR) have just published one of the most rigorous independent analyses of Starship yet attempted and unusually, they did not rely on SpaceX's own claims. Instead, they extracted telemetry data from the publicly broadcast footage of the first four integrated flight tests, second by second, and used it to build and validate their own detailed models of the vehicle's performance. The result is a picture of Starship that is both more grounded and more impressive than the marketing suggests.
The analysis confirmed that in its current form, a fully reusable Starship that can deliver around 59 tonnes to low Earth orbit. That is roughly what a Falcon Heavy can achieve without recovering any of its boosters at all. The next generation version, equipped with the more powerful Raptor 3 engines and enlarged fuel tanks, is projected to achieve around 115 tonnes in reusable mode and potentially 188 tonnes if flown expendably,
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12567-025-00625-8
>>16923411>188 tonnes if flown expendablyso, this means flying the same exact configuration or a stripped-down version without heatshield, flaps, etc.? if it's the latter, then it's fucking over.
The second part of the paper will investigate a potential European option for launching similar payloads of 50 t and more into LEO, based on building blocks currently proposed or under investigation. This configuration employs a reusable winged first stage based on the SpaceLiner concept’s booster stage. The stage uses cryogenic liquid hydrogen and cryogenic liquid oxygen and is recovered with in-air capturing (IAC). For the second stage, an expendable cryogenic stage is optimized to maximize the payload capacity. Pull the other one. There's bells onit.
>>16923414The former, the exact same configuration. All they do is model the consequences of retaining fuel for return. They don't model a special expendable version with no flaps etc
>>16923419Then that's 73 tons needed for deorbit and catch. Ouch.
>>16923407>with 1 gorillion engines is that you end up with a lot of length-matched tube spaghettiIt's really not alot compared to Saturn V S-IVB which was only 1 J-2 engine + RCS on >>16923389Starship is pretty minimal when you consider it's 6 engines
>>16922859That's why they made the NET date recklessly early
what tweaks would make it NOT be over?3rd stage?11m diameter?launch from a mountain?
>>16923434A nice game of russian roulette, probably
>>16923434painting anime girls on it, of coursehttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1232222762023997440
>>16923410>>16923411>>16923413>The remarkable progress SpaceX made in the first four integrated flight tests of their Starship and Super Heavy launcher configuration indicates that a fully reusable space transport system might become a reality within a few years.This paper was written back in 2024.
>>16923439So you're saying it takes time to write and publish a paper? Wow. Mind blown.Scroll down for the revision history if you care so much.
It's been about eight months since the Vera Rubin Observatory (VRO) saw first light. Now the telescope is scanning the night sky to detect transient changes and sending alerts to astronomers and observatories around the world so they can perform follow-up observations. This alert system is one of the last milestones before the VRO starts its primary endeavor: the decade-long Legacy Survey of Space and Time (LSST).On the night of Feb. 24, the VRO sent 800,000 astronomical alerts that direct astronomers' attention to new asteroids, supernovae, and other transient phenomenon. But the VRO is just getting started. The 800,000 alerts will be dwarfed by the seven million nightly alerts the telescope is expected to deliver once it's up to full speed.Maybe now we'll get a proper heads up on an interstellar guest or incoming asteroid.
>>16923445If you want to get on a filtered disto:https://rubinobservatory.org/for-scientists/data-products/alerts-and-brokers
I applied to work at Rubin but never heard back :(
>partial re-usability>LH2>50 - 70 tons to orbit>FFSC>the RLV-C5 and many of its components remain on the drawing boardI'd like to see it fly, to be quite honest with you.
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>>16923451FLIGHT!
>>16923451meanwhile the humble COPV
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2028590650774712405It all makes sense. Why we need to go to space, moon and mars
>>16923444Try using those two remaining brain cells you have to consider why someone who is not an SME using inaccurate and outdated performance numbers would have a flawed paper.
>>16923473Oh, so how about you write a paper using v3 performance data. Wait -- you can't.Now sit quietly while real people chat.
>>16923477Anon you just admitted the paper isn't accurate.for a Starship that would be launching data centers into space.
>>16923487Can't use data from things that haven't happened. Although you insist you can.So, instead of bothering us, there's are links for you to send a letter of complaint to the journal. Do that. Maybe they'll print it.
>>16923437There is no god if pic related doesn't make it on an HLS vehicleLiterally built to piss off lunar habitants (lunarians are forever traumatized from US invasion during Apollo)
>>16923475no spaceflight for weeks...
>>16923449I'm surprisedA shitload of people left the field before Covid due to selection rates being so low and even more people left during the plague years due to literally anything paying better
>>16923475You can't say that Clear, you have to announce you had a mid-stream anomaly and that your return to stream date is pending an internal investigation
>>16923408go to udvar hazzy
KAIROS today!
>>16923445>turns out there's a lot of shit moving aboutinteresting timeswonder what this will do to mass estimates
>>16922403https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osMooAvpSSsData centers in space need a lot of cooling space.It makes me wonder if they built a huge platform/network; all the resources are just left to burn without recycling. They can't keep up.
>>16923380>what in the videodrome fuck is thislol true>>16923382haha/Space Funnies General/
>>16923389all that dry mass...
>>16923475Does anything in japan work these days?>MZ can’t get it up.jpg
>>16923380Are rockets steampunk
>>16923380The technical term is a "Rat's Nest".
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2028808303799566684
>>16923591Oh boy I can't wait for Artemis III in 2050.
>>16923591>Putting on a show for the Trump adminJust stop it Jared. I like you but you know it's not happening.
>>16923591Move over SNC, this is the real dreamchaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkhZHR_hs4c>SpaceX's AI Data Centres Might Actually Be A Good Idea. Here's Whyhandmer talking about orbital datacenters
>>16923597WE CANT AFFORD RAM
>>16923597So as long as it isn't Grok being prioritized and an actually good AI, maybe.
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2028776602956419236>Roscosmos reports that the service cabin at the Pad 31/6 at Baikonur cosmodrome was fully replaced! Workers are now beginning the usual pad preparation for the upcoming Progress MS-33 launch (set for March 22nd).
>>16923610lol of course it will be prioritized, SpaceX owns xAI and thus grok nowbut if they truly never catch up and it starts seeming worse and worse, I wouldn't be surprised if Musk pivots (and perhaps hopes LLMs just become a commodity)the orbital datacenters will be extremely valuable in any case
Iranians have dismantled the Starlink terminal attached to a crashed US LUCAS drone for analysis.
>>16923645its just a starlink mini
https://x.com/business/status/2028790096057520572https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-03/spacex-ipo-at-1-75-trillion-is-pricy-not-irrational-pitchbook-says?
>>16923645it was the same when the iraqi civilians got a hold of one. the starlink dish was the only thing missing from the drone. not sure if they nabbed it before filming or someone else did.
>>16923648why's it so high all of the sudden?
>>16923648
SpaceX/xAI is repaying back all of its debt before the IPObasically using the equity round that xAI had a few months ago (20bil) to make the balance sheet look better for the IPO, then "paying back" those investors with the IPO valuation becoming higherit makes sense with the very high valuation as funding is very cheap this way compared to other methods, Tesla benefited from this previously (and still does with stock based comp)
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/as-moon-interest-heats-up-two-companies-unveil-plans-for-a-lunar-harvester/>In short, the world’s most successful space company and the largest space agency have both increased their lunar ambitions, suggesting a greater frequency of missions to the Moon in the coming years.>For companies that have long-term business plans focused around the surface of the Moon, these are very positive developments. And two of these lunar startups, Astrolab and Interlune, announced Tuesday morning they are forming a partnership amid this favorable environment.>“Ultimately, we want to build a fleet of electric harvesters that will go to the Moon and excavate, extract and separate Helium-3 from the lunar regolith,” said Interlune chief executive Rob Meyerson. “The FLEX Rover is a great platform to go do that.”
>>16923653looks like those gokarts that nasa put in the artemis base render
>>16923659I think its the same thing
>>16923653unlock the gravel economy
>>16923652The traditional value of a stock is the Gordon Growth Model, the current value of expected dividends. Anything beyond that is speculation.
>>16923659Mooncarts shooting turtle shells at each other...
>>16923662wait, they are the same karts. they have the same wheels and hexagon side panels.
>>16923653>>16923662It's like when a little kid tries to draw a car from memory
>>16923645The hard part. Now just build a shuttle to retrieve a starlink satellite for reverse engineering and launch a constellation.
>>16923597Another in Handyman"s series of "it could work" if I believe everything Elon says and use the most optimistic numbers. Like doing your homework working backwards from the answer. Should also check out his Starship can land on the Moon and Space solar can work efforts.They serve a purpose. Nice to see someone show his math.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxqGbFAFu-E
>>16923653How much do they believe the helium-3 part, and how much is it gets funding for harvesting and processing everything else?
>>16923648>1.75 trillionthat number is still too low
>>16923663how to get in on the ground floor of lunar gravel?
>>16923707its just a matter of starting at the bottom and working your way up.
>>16923648https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2028875988780962298
>>16923653>Helium-3Do investors really get their info from Hollywood movies? There is no near-term application for this.
>>16923669The Iranian Simorgh launches will blot out the sun!
>>16923712you must dig in (to the lunar gravel) enough to understand it
>>16923613lmao anatoly Zak said it would take 2 years
>>16923712It's gonna hit a 3 or 4 trillion USD valuation before the end of the year, that's for sure.
>>16923713anything fusion related is a complete fucking scam
>>16923721He just doesn't like Russia
>>16923707better would be to find a direct use for the lunar regolith. How about as an abrasive for a boutique beauty product? Only $200,000 per jar for an out-of-this-world complexion!
>>16923662I recognised it from checking the wiki list of future starship launches. 2027 Flexible Logistics and Exploration (FLEX) rover to the lunar surface for Astrolab. although the source link is dead.Depending on how it folds up Starship could probably deliver multiple of these at a time.
Art Deco Falcon Heavy's behind Isaacman as he announces "NASA Force". No more heavy reliance on vendors for everything.
>>16923733Didn’t notice that at first, damn. Kino
>>16923733Some Art Deco is nice.Art Deco lunar base would be based.
>>16923664of course, but what those expected dividends will be differ vastly on what people speculate onis the company going to just continue doing what they do (steady state), decline and go bankrupt (zero expected dividends at some point) or grow massively one way or another (massively bigger dividends)
>>16923733>another let's buy commercialScam.
https://x.com/JTLonsdale/status/2028906170593771633Joe Lonsdale (VC and co-founder of Palantir) interviewing Isaacman
>>16923750
>>16923750School of Elon Musk building the future
go.nasa.gov/3MJeGVPIt was a seal.>Engineers determined a seal in the quick disconnect, through which helium flows from the ground systems to the rocket, was obstructing the pathway. The team removed the quick disconnect, reassembled the system, and began validating the repairs to the upper stage by running a reduced flow rate of helium through the mechanism to ensure the issue was resolved. Engineers are assessing what allowed the seal to become dislodged to prevent the issue from recurring.>Work on the rocket and spacecraft will continue in the coming weeks as NASA prepares for rolling the rocket out to the launch pad again later this month ahead of a potential launch in April.
We're heading for a 4 year bear market anyways.
>>16923751I've seen this movie before, it's pretty shit. It's about kicking the can down the road for someone else to do anything with.
>>16923757>17+ launches to go to the moonis he wrong though? even with full and rapid reusability thats gonna be expensive.
>>16923757>I work in space industry Yeah, as a janitor. What an absolute tool
>>16923733https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2028938469494669347
more art deco
>>16923775is this a meme or has it been actually confirmed?
>>16923733>>16923779Wtf where did all of this SOVL come from?
>>16923782>Wtf where did all of this SOVL come from?I'm gonna enjoy it for all it's worth.
>>16923779YESSSSSS more of this more of this, this is beauty
>>16923796Hope enough people send him suggestions to incorporate more of this style into NASA. He's always open to good ideas.
>>16923750https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCik1Ak6WVcyoutube version
>>16923779mars aeternus
>>16923782Isaacman is a business man. He knows you need your customers (the tax paying public) to think your product is sexy if you want them to buy in.
https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/2028961378673807519total Mobile Launcher 2 death
>>16923822lmao
>>16923822there weren't enough alabama river rocks
