Do you have to believe in biology to be a biologist?https://jobs.utoronto.ca/job/Scarborough-Assistant-Professor-Computational-Biology-and-Data-Science-ON/599939517/>selection will be limited to candidates who identify as members of one or more of the four federally-designated groups: women and gender minorities (those who identify as women, trans, nonbinary, Two-Spirit, and gender fluid, based on the gender identity that best describes applicants at the current time), racialized persons/visible minorities, Indigenous Peoples, persons with disabilities.
>>16923498There are two sides to this.One is that due to the nature of the development of the male and female nervous systems, it is completely reasonable to say that phenotypical gender occurs on a spectrum. What many people don't realize, and I imagine even people involved in various STEM sciences, is that male/female development happens in FOUR directions: masculinization, demasculinization, feminization, defeminization. Male development depends on masculinization of the nervous system, as well as defeminization. Masculinization alone is not enough. Likewise for females, who require feminizing as well as demasculinizing effects.One of the reasons sexually dimorphic nervous system development works like this is because there is limited space on the chromosome for genetic coding. In cases where it's more "data-efficient" to have masculine physiological developments for both sexes, which can be arrested by demasculinization in females but not in males, you will find that those traits develop in both sexes up until a certain point. Even in nature there is a lot of variation in this, with plenty of natural occurrences of males that are not fully defeminized or females that are not fully demasculinized. However, these individuals very rarely procreate (they are either physiologically incapable, or they lack the sexually dimorphic behaviours necessary to achieve copulation).However, the sociopolitical developments and policies regarding these individuals in the Western world is nothing short of fucking insanity. In several decades, the damage that has been done to countless individuals who have undergone irreversible hormone treatment and surgery, and the overall damage that has been done to Western society, will be spoken of in the same breath as the Holocaust or the prevalence of asbestos.
>>16923576>it is completely reasonable to say that phenotypical gender occurs on a spectrum.It's completely insane to say this because "gender" doesn't exist. Please reformulate your brainwashed postmodern take in proper scientific terms.
>>16923576>phenotypical genderLol. Lmao. Having to append the word phenotypical to your pedophilic word "gender" doesn't change its history.
>>16923600>>16923602nta but the modern usage of the word gender is to describe the spectrum of masculinity to femininity. Sex is to describe male or female. People don't always understand this and use gender instead of sex which can be confusing. Two-spirit and non binary and whatever that shit is isn't important, you can forget about that. Masculine and feminine is what gender is referring to and surely you agree that some women are more feminine than others for example, that's because it's a spectrum and not binary like sex is with only two possible options. I believe the courts use the word gender in this manner now too.
>>16923606>the modern usage of the word gender is to describe the spectrum of masculinity to femininityYou can make up words to describe whatever you want. That doesn't make it objective or scientific.> some women are more feminine than others for exampleI agree, but since I'm not retarded, I realize this is a subjective judgment and not a scientific one. A feminine man is not a woman, no matter how far on the feminine side of my subjective femininity spectrum I locate him. A woman is not defined by my subjective ideals of femininity. A woman is a sexually mature human female.
>>16923576>>16923606tldr:"gender" - some dumb psychological theory invented by a pedo that literally no one would give the tiniest fuck about if you described it to them honestly"sex" - the thing everyone actually cares about"trans activists" - freaks trying to acquire political power by using postmodern language games to conflate the two then playing victim when normal people call bullshit"trannies" - unfortunate losers who got caught up in all this and were convinced by tumblr and anime that elective castration was the key to happiness only to ack themselves later once they figured out they were wrong
>>16923609>A feminine man is not a womanNo, a feminine man is a feminine man. Feminine (gender) man (sex). Gender has nothing to do with a man being a woman, you're mixing the meaning of the words up. It's just a basic English word for shortening multiple words into one, the same way male/female is the word sex, masculine/feminine is the word gender. It makes sense because why should male and female have a word to group them (sex) but masculine/feminine shouldn't. Male and masculine mean different things so it makes sense. It's not asking you to call a biological woman a man or anything like that.
>>16923626I'm not confusing anything with anything else. I'm just rubbing you retarded nose in the fact that your gender apologia has nothing to do with anything. It has nothing to do with science, since it's not defining any objective spectrum, and it even has nothing to do with gender ideology, since those lunatics regard the ends of the spectrum as de facto definitions of what it means to be a man or a woman.
>>16923602>Having to append the word phenotypical to your pedophilic word "gender" doesn't change its history.Your own projection. Zero relationship to what I discussed.This is really basic endocrinology shit based on over 70 years of absolutely fucking BRUTAL experiments on all sorts of animals. I'm talking removal of testicles before puberty and reimplanting them afterwards, removal of testicles DURING intercourse (yes, really), implantation of ovaries in males and testicles in females, injections of sex steroid hormones at every conceivable stage of development, you name it. Many of the results from these experiments are mirrored in humans who have genetic defects that result in the same outcomes as some of these experiments.Masculine/feminine development happens in various irreversible stages. What happens at one stage is affected by what happened at preceding stages. For males there is a "supposed" progression of these stages involving various masculinization and defeminization processes, for females they involve feminization and demasculiniation processes. These do not always happen "by the book", even in nature, even in normal circumstances. There is always individual variance in the degree of masculinization/feminization and demasculinzation/defeminization. Always.Phenotypic outcomes of gender never entirely match genotypical coding of sex because sex steroid hormones affect these stages of development, a significant portion of which is environmentally determined. This includes the mother's womb during development, affected by various events during pregnancy, ingested foods and a myriad of factors.The reason we have so many trannies nowadays is because of all the endocrine disruptors in our water supply, food, air pollution, microplastics exposure, etc. That does not mean this phenomenon in and of itself is abnormal, just the scale of it in modern society.Whatever ideas you have about pedophilia and the semantics of gender are entirely your own.
>>16923626>It's not asking you to call a biological woman a man or anything like that.You can literally get thrown in prison for not doing that in many western countries.
>>16923637>all this pseud drivelAnd yet you're unable to define 'gender' in a way that ties in with anything scientifically, socially or historically relevant. But that's ok, since you clearly concede that you can be either a man or a woman, but nothing in between, and that this is determined by your sex. :^)
>>16923637supplemental material
>>16923640MOLDOVAN SCHIZO ALERTDO NOT ENGAGE IN HIS RAGEBAITHIDE AND IGNORE
>>16923644>the psychotically ill cretin subscribes to troon ideology and thinks the distinction between man and women is "ragebait"No surprises. Screencapped for future reference. :^)
>>16923630You're so triggered by the word gender that you can't understand the basic stuff I'm saying, even though you already pretty much agreed with me but then confused what I was saying again right after.This is from a government health research website... Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or maleGender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over timehttps://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.htmlSimply put, sex is male/female and is binary, gender is masculine/feminine and is a spectrum. This has nothing to do with trans people or crazy people with 200 genders or anything like that. If you want to think it does then go right ahead I don't care.
>>16923668>>16923668>Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, menThis doesn't define any spectrum and doesn't match your definition. No one identifies as "feminine".>This is from a government health research website... Which automatically diminishes its credibility to zero.Notice how you repeatedly fail to define 'gender' in a way that ties in with anything scientifically, socially or historically relevant. But that's ok, since you clearly concede that you can be either a man or a woman, but nothing in between, and that this is determined by your sex.
>>16923674Low quality trolling
>>16923677"Gender" is not a scientific concept and your mental illness doesn't belong here. >>>/r/lgbt
>>16923498To be a modern biologist? No. In fact its required that you not understand biology. Look what happened to Watson. Nobody wants that to happen to them so just keep your head down and say whatever the activists want: Modern biology
>>16923688Watson got what he deserved. Every 'innovator' who tries to downplay the significance of their collaborators' work to try and make themself seem more impressive should be shot, or at the very least, ostracized.
>>16923694>insane leftist tranny rage
>>16923679>>16923674>>16923640Tell me something, what sex does estrogen belong to and what sex does testosterone belong to?
two-spirit?
>>16923708>can't define 'gender' in any scientifically or generally relevant way>resorts to answer-a-question-with-a-question pilpulWeak damage control. But that's ok, since you clearly concede that you can be either a man or a woman, but nothing in between, and that this is determined by your sex. :^)
>>16923715None of the quoted posts contain any questions.
>>16923716>your sheer desperationLol. It's ok if you can't tell me how you scientifically define 'gender'. You've already conceded that you can be either a man or a woman, but nothing in between, and that this is determined by your sex. That's good enough. :^)
>>16923606>Some females are more fertile than others >Sex is defined by gamete production>Therefore sex is a spectrum and not a binary This is the same logic you're peddling. It's disgusting.
>>16923720>Still dodging the questionDon't have an answer huh
>>16923726He's not peddling any logic. He's just going for a pathetic motte-and-bailey tactic where he redefines the word 'gender' to sound more reasonable even though he knows perfectly well gender ideologues mean it in the sense popularized by that J-word pedophile freak who tried to brainwash a little boy into thinking he was a girl.
>>16923727>your sheer desperationLol. It's ok if you can't tell me how you scientifically define 'gender'. You've already conceded that you can be either a man or a woman, but nothing in between, and that this is determined by your sex. That's good enough. :^)Also see >>16923728. Your damage control tactic is failing miserably.
>>16923729Kek dude you're talking about someone else's posts. But yeah, you don't have an answer to a simple question like what sex does estrogen belong to and what sex does testosterone belong to? Embarrassing.
>>16923730You've already fully conceded that:1. A person is either a man or a woman, depending on their sex, and there is nothing in between2. 'Gender' is not a scientific conceptThe fact that men produce estrogen has no bearing on this. The fact men can be feminine has no bearing on this, either. Your full concession has already been accepted and you cannot take it back.
>>16923735Damn bro, still no straight answer to the question? Big claims about how you know the true nature of males and females, sex and gender, and then dodge and dodge and dodge a really simple question about what sex estrogen belongs to and what sex testosterone belongs to? Mate mate mate.
>>16923736You've already fully conceded that:1. A person is either a man or a woman, depending on their sex, and there is nothing in between2. 'Gender' is not a scientific conceptThe fact that men produce estrogen has no bearing on this. The fact men can be feminine has no bearing on this, either. Your full concession has already been accepted and you cannot take it back.Your raging psychotic illness is causing you to ask some nonsensical question that shows your lack of understanding of basic biology, but that still has no bearing on the points you've already conceded.
>>16923498What is the problem exactly?
>>16923741You tell me. Why does the ethnicity most closely associated with OP's picrel ideology keep whinging about an impending shoah and begging for more legislation to protect it against criticism?
>>16923739Still no answer in sight, why are you dodging this simple question SO hard?
>>16923743I cannot quite imagine what is the predominant ideology of Canadian university boards. Never had a problem with my uni's admin
>>16923746>the psychotic patient repeatedly hallucinates question-dodging that didn't happenEstrogen doesn't "belong" to either sex. Your question is nonsensical and shows your ignorance about basic biology. Either way, you've already fully conceded that:1. A person is either a man or a woman, depending on their sex, and there is nothing in between2. 'Gender' is not a scientific conceptThe fact that men produce estrogen has no bearing on this. The fact men can be feminine has no bearing on this, either. Your full concession has already been accepted and you cannot take it back.
>>16923752>Estrogen doesn't "belong" to either sexOK but then what makes a female a female?
>>16923755>OK but then what makes a female a female?Having two X chromosomes.
>>16923755Female essence, obviously.
>>16923758Truth. Everyone knows John Money was wrong
>>16923755Whether my dick gets hard upon the sight of the individual. Next question.
>>16923766holy based. trvke
>>16923756:)
Glad we have it settled that a person can only be a man or a woman, depending on their sex, which is determined by chromosomes.>inb4 mentally ill retards claim genetic deformities belong in the same category as a third option
>>16923770>he fell for it:)
>>16923770>a person can only be a man or a woman, depending on their sex, which is determined by chromosomes./threadthis was never up for debate in any legitimate scientific circle
>>16923770>man>woman>deformityaren't those three? make it make sense. i hope this doesn't hurt your feelings!
>>16923776>man>woman>potato>aren't those three???Mentally ill retard.
>Mentally ill retard.why so angry? millions spend on tranny ads and for what? the biggest bait of the generation
Glad we have it settled that a person can only be a man or a woman, depending on their sex, which is determined by chromosomes.>inb4 mentally ill retards claim again that genetic deformities are a third sex
>>16923783ok.
>>16923783>>16923777>>16923770>>16923756>>16923752>>16923739>>16923735>talks shit about anons "not knowing basic biology">trips over one of the most common trick questions used on first-year medical students
@16923791>mentally ill retard thinks admitting that he believes in there being an arbitrary number of sexes is some epic win
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>>16923498>government mandated requirementsJesus H. Christ, can't even blame it on run of the mill college retardation, it actually came from the government
>>16923498this is just intelligent recruiting for the university. it's computational biology. everyone knows MtF troons are good coders/good at STEM in general. there's a reason it listed women first (nonexistent) and troons second. it's advertising directly to them. "look, we'll hire you on the spot!"
