>>16929007
This thread is officially protected by Yakub's blessing. Go out and shit on the desks of the humanities departments.

>>16929014
Why because they are all more employed than we are?

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what's the point of semiconductors research anymore besides cheaping manufacturing?
there is already 2d semiconductors and organic semiconductors
I guess it's something related to biology, but I don't like it

>>16929239
It's a bit like asking what the point is in developing cars any further after Ford model T launched.

>>16929239
higher transistor density

why am i so broke despite being an "electrical engineer"

>>16929352
1. Spending habits
2. Cost of living where you are
3. Your job pays like shit

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>>16929007
Shhhhheeeeeit.

Will artists, bohemians, cultured people, and the like always hate me for being an engineer?

>>16929239
Make me a 2d semiconductor that works better than silicon and you can take over my PhD position at this very second

>>16929007
>>16929390
Do you think that most people on /sci/ will get the /g/ meme that they are holding the soldering iron the wrong way?

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>>16929434
Arts and humanities people hold engineers in contempt, and they're usually justified, because
>be autistic midwit (sub 140 iq)
>learn analytic problem solving approaches in a narrow domain (usually computer science)
>don't have deep interest in history/literature/arts/languages/etc
>only skim titles and headlines
>read some pop history crap
>develop simplistic assumptions about arts and humanities
>use logical reasoning based on overly simplified assumptions
>artfags can't beat your arguments because they suck at logic
>you can't beat their arguments because you are actually wrong and they are actually right because you lack the requisite background knowledge and your intuition is way off

the only way around this is to not be a retarded autistic savant midwit and spend the tens of thousands of hours reading and formulating correct intuitions. there's a lot of irreducible complexity in the soft sciences and humanities that any kind of simple model-building approach will miss, and your predictions will always be very wrong if you try to follow such.

I only know this because I am actually a history autist who stumbled into a STEM career because it seemed more likely to result in employment, so I've spent much of my life actually developing the deep background knowledge necessary to reason about one of the humanities. The takes that most of my colleagues have on the subject are completely retarded for the most part.

>>16929489
I can solder and I have a PhD. But I also got an engineering degree before switching to research, actually worked as an engineer for a while, and my field is robotics which is actually menial labor so any true scienticians will scoff at me.

I believe if you know how to solder, weld, machine metal parts, use a 3d printer or talk to business people without dropping your spaghetti you're not actually a scientist.

Why is life so utterly disappointing and why am I being persecuted by clocky troon.

>>16929555
delusions of grandeur and narcissism, mostly.

>>16929556
No I think it's the persecution at the hands of malevolent freaks and clocky troons but I bet you could tell me about that

>>16929550
Yes yes yes you're so much better than everyone else

>>16929577
Name the last book you read and 5 of it's themes

>>16929582
You're completely hopeless

>>16929586
Never heard of it

>>16929489
Anybody's who's been a PhD student and had a shoot for school marketing has had to do these kind of retarded photo ops. I've got a photo of me and a professor writing gibberish on a glass board because the PR people wanted "some of that Beautiful Mind shit", and three of my cohort in experimental have a pic of them holding random tools up to an experiment trying to look like they're in mid-assembly.

It's fucking farcical.

>>16929550
It’s not a matter of me making silly assumptions; most of what I read consists of history books and literature. I have the requisite knowledge to discuss these things with them, but people don’t treat me the same once they realize I’m an engineer.

>>16929577
>you're so much better than everyone else
where did I say that, moron? the only field I am familiar with is history so I can see what the humanitiesfags are on about whenever some dilettante engineer opens his mouth about the fall of rome being due to immigration or some shit

I don't profess any knowledge of painting or literature or whatever, and there's an opportunity cost to spending your youth studying history rather than something actually related to your job

Of course, this would be obvious to anyone who isn't a dunning kruger twat feeling called out by my post.

>>16929636
>but people don’t treat me the same once they realize I’m an engineer.
yes, they are butthurt about engineers in general due to negative experiences with them, and as a group they have this gigantic insecurity because while there's nothing stopping a scientist or engineer from reading up on history properly, a typical artlet will generally get filtered by the math requirements in most hard sciences

>>16929550
I agree. Many stemfags, when you take away their area of specialization, are essentially midwit niggers in all areas.

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>>16929669
This. I can refer to specific Roman emperors Trajan or Caligula and their personality traits when talking to someone with a history degree but if you say the word "magnetic flux density" or "heat transfer coefficient" or "tensor field" to a liberal arts degree holder, they would probably think you are making up terminology to intimidate you. Even simple words like "derivative" or "joule" or "frequency"would make their heads hurt.

>>16929678
You should stop reading webcomics, it's unbecoming.

>>16929779
You do have to keep in mind that most engineers and scientists never bother with the "read up properly" part of the equation either, it's really easy to fall into the trap of thinking you understand shit because of some pop culture memes you've passively picked up

>>16929007
based heckin femalaroo dominating a male world. And she doesn't even have big tits. Poor thing is married though so obviously she is still a member of the patriarchy. But this just shows that at an instinctive level she knows what is wrong with the world and will take here work-life balance and will not settle for no 70 cents on the dollar sexism bullshit.

You told me there's always drama in research groups, I should have listened

>>16929866
Not always but sometimes

I think I'm going to do a photonics PhD. I want to work at a national lab or become a professor.

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>>16929007
Are STEM postdocs in Japan even worth considering? Normies seem to act like its throwing your life away.

>>16930147
Postdocs are a necessary evil if you want a career in academia and a complete waste of life otherwise.

Being in another country can be good life experience, but in career terms you'll want to build networks close to where you want to work.

>>16930326
>Postdocs are a necessary evil if you want a career in academia
I took a teaching job at a small college right out of grad school and I still manage to make time to write grants, do research, and go to conferences. Maybe not as much as if I were at a big R1 school, but I also don’t have the pressure of having to hit a specific number of publications or grant dollars to keep my job.

There’s more than one way to get into academia.

>>16930370
No there isn't.

>>16930382
>>16930370
>>16930326
in the EU you can be a horizonmonkey at a research institute. I don't think that counts as a postdoc because you write grant applications for a whole team as part of a massive carte... I mean, consortium, and you typically work with other people and manage subordinates rather than doing all the work independently

Don't know if best place to ask but looking for a textbook online, and my university doesn't have access to it (through Cambridge Journals online) but have a friend in another uni who can actually access it but its blocked from downloading locally.
If he has access to it, does anybody know what tools to use to locally rip it as a pdf?

And yes, I already checked sci-hub (said its not on there), annas archive and libgen, and none have it, since it came out in 2025.

>>16929815
>unbecoming
I don't care and i read them anonymously from home. And in times like this, we all need some comfy stuff. Otherwise it owuld be like in the UK:
>‘Firing off 10 to 15 applications a day’: how UK’s hiring slump hits the young
https://archive.ph/7KG8H
>“Young people say they lack work experience and something to talk about to employers. Those opportunities are becoming few and far between,” said Sareena Bains, chief executive of Movement to Work, which partners with big employers to provide short-term placements.
>UK ministers are acutely concerned about the prospects of the 957,000 people aged 16 to 24 now counted in official data as Neet — many of whom have never had a paid job and are inactive owing to ill health or disability.

I'm seriously considering becoming an IB teacher in SEA. It cannot be to bad right? Anything to get out of this engineering hellscape.

>>16930467
Listen mate I don't need you telling me what it's like in England either. Take your webcomics and shove them up your arse.

I'm a little late for the college game, as I'm 32 and went through multiple endeavors when younger, but now I found something that I'm actually interested in, which is earning a Bachelor's in neuroscience with the intent of being a research assistant in psychedelic studies in my state (Texas.)
I research related concepts for fun, and even though I won't be designing tests specifically, I'm willing to basically do grunt work like data analysis while I continue my studies, hopefully even earning a PhD in the field.

Any advice for me?

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>>16930505
I graduated from a British university and left as soon as I could, but I still keep reading about old blighty on the FT. With so much doon scrolling I sure need some comfy stuff.

>>16930531
>vague blogpost
>asking for advice without specifying the problem
yeah, suck my dick faggot

>>16930537
The fuck?

If you have insight into the field, which you probably don't, as you're a hyper-aggressive, insecure little faggot, you should have no problem offering general pointers that lead to success, or common issues that I would need to confront.

>>16930539
bro fuck off. you haven't even started college at 32 but act like some sort of special prodigy we should care about

how about you prove you're not a fucking retard first (you can't, nobody who isn''t a retard would be in your position)

intelligent, systematizing people don't pester others for "advice" when they can't even articulate a specific question

>>16930565
>>16930539
like I can't stress this enough: most people here in this thread did everything right, earned their PhDs at much younger ages than you even started college, and society still treats us like worthless disposable trash

what exactly makes you think you're worth the effort in coming up with bespoke advice when you're some trailer trash who couldn't even 100% the education system like everyone else? you're bottom of the barrel trash even compared to the other trash, get in line

>>16930565
>>16930568
>act like some sort of special prodigy?

Where the fuck do you get that impression? I'm looking to get into a field that I'm interested in to work as a research assistant, not to revolutionize the world with my brilliance.

I've been to college, but due to various events in life, I've yet to complete it. I'm still going back, though, and have complete confidence in myself to finish the degree plan, my age is largely an irrelevant factor in this, but I can see how it can possibly be a detriment to my ability to get position I enjoy.

>Articulate a specific question.

There doesn't have to be a specific question to get substantial input. Maybe someone has experience in the field that they can transfer to me. I'm not asking for anything life-changing. Why you feel it to be so exhausting is beyond me, because it's such a basic, simple request.

>society still treats us like worthless trash
>get in line

I'm starting to see why you're hyper-aggressive and insecure. Sorry you feel underappreciated by the world, have you ever considered it may just be because you're a douchebag instead of a tortured intellectual?

>>16930533
Then you've probably read my comments

>>16930531
Thielite nonsense.

>>16930576
>words words
aint reading all that. glad for you. or sorry that happened.

I'm not going to allow having my cortisol spiked by a honoid clocky troon hold me back. I will prevail.

Basically my entire life as a white man now is jumping through hoops to amuse my chinese status striver superiors for a crumb of economic sustenance. Occasionally I get psychospiritually assaulted by a transwomyn with a hair line that beggars belief.

>>16930576
>reddit spacing: the post

>>16930800
>Penis sucking: the man

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Why the fuck is it so hard to get even an internship in cs?

>>16930858
>cs
it's not 2011 anymore. get a real degree.

>>16930858
>why is it so hard to get a job in a field where there are 50 wannabe employees for every opening

>>16930785
>my entire life as a white man
how was it when you were a black cis woman?

>>16930924
Brave and utterly stunning

>>16930884
>>16930922
So you're telling me I fucked up hard then? I don't even have any projects or connections.

>>16930962
yeah but not really your fault, just 4 years ago CS/IT was still a pretty decent career choice. it just got two-shot by the once-in-a-lifetime blindside combo of
>rapid interest rate hikes in a speculative investment fuelled industry
>LLM performance + hype convincing the suits no codemonkeys will ever need to be hired again (maybe true, maybe not, remains to be seen)

so glad I just said fuck it and became an air traffic controller instead

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>>16929007
After careful consideration we have decided not to move forward with your application.

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Does anyone have tipps on how to get a summer internship in europe? Nepotism is not an option for me unfortunately and everybody I know got one by nepotism. I sent out a lot of applications year round but the economy sucks so no one wants to hire.

>>16931251
Depends on the field

>>16931011
You don't find that really stressful?

>>16931011
if you did ATC through the military good for you. if you paid out of pocket to be an ATC you're fucking retarded

I think when it comes down to it I'm entirely motivated by spite and jealousy

>>16931011
Anon, ATC is gonna be like the first thing that gets AI’d

it should be called the M career general because those are the only careers right now

>>16931360
the M stands for [spoiler]medicine[/spoiler]

>>16931334
who would take responsibility then?

>>16931413
They can hire 1 fall guy to replace 100 ATCs. 150k for jerking off all day but when a plane crashes for reasons entirely outside of your control you are obligated to commit harakiri.

>>16931251
Send out more applications, and know the basics of all the skills you need for the position. Also try and learn about the material outside of class, it shows you genuinely care about the topic. You got this!

I think I'm bored of being a software developer, after 13 years of it, and I'm ready for a change.

I heard there's such a thing as research software engineers, I'm interested in that career path. Anything I should know about breaking into that?

>>16929582
bweeding edge
>conspiracy
>divorce
>motherhood
>entrepreneurship
>technocracy
This was actually harder than I thought it's been a while I've done that about any book I've read. Also not that anon.

>>16931551
That's great but in kind of trapped in a battle of the wills with that other guy and was looking for a way to mock and humiliate him.

>>16931494
you'll get paid literally 10% of what you do now

it's literally just a
>I need someone to do the monkey work in my project but can't be arsed to take on another PhD student
job

typically they get some poor undergradb& or master's student to do it

>>16931413
Who takes responsibility for anything?
The entire point of the democracy system is that no one can be identified and held accountable. AI is just the final perfection of that idea.

>>16931251
If you are a jeet I will do everything in my power to ensure you won't get accepted in my university

>>16931251
I don't hire jeets sorry

>>16931635
That low? I don't work in Silicon Valley or for FAGMAN, my salary is "only" $91k (fairly high for my area).

>>16931002
I've been in school for like, 5+ years now though.

>>16931804
well for starters that's an extremely high salary globally

but where I'm at a mid senior dev would typically make like 5000€/month while a "research software engineer" might get like 1600-2400

it boggles my mind how easy americans have it. you clearly don't understand how the world works at all, no concept of how money flows around, who pays whom and why, whatsoever. but you make multiple times the amount I do.

>>16929582
"Who Wants to Marry a Billionaire?" (Japanese: Tamarowa). A mature-rated manga series, not a traditionally animated TV anime, centered on a high-stakes competition where women compete for a wealthy bachelor. Any questions brainlet?

>>16930800
>Uses paragraphs like a normal person
>HURR DURR LE REDDIT SPACING
You are a retarded faggot

>>16932006
bro you're in your 30s and don't even have your PhD

what are we even doing here, amateur hour? go somewhere else if you want emotional support for low effort losers

>>16932025
Be nice to the normie tourists. They are like women, they dont know any better.

>>16931818
But the mid senior dev in your example makes slightly more than I do. But yeah, salary for the RSE is pretty much junior dev pay in America.

>>16932154
these are pre-tax per MONTH incomes, not post-tax per WEEK. in the EU people give their pre-tax income because everyone gets different government robbery scaling and we give per-month incomes because we make the same amount every month that an american makes per week.

>>16932171
>>16932154
5k/month is 60k per year pre tax
2.4k/month is 28.8l per year pre tax

this is eastern europe. you can roughly 2x for germany and 3x for the richer eurocunts like switzerland or norway but they're still poor compared to you.

>>16930962
>I don't even have any projects
Why not??
You could, as a minimum, join a small open source project and spend the time making an impression, leaving meaningful results and achievements.

Which AI can I trust for career advice?

>>16932171
>every week vs every month
It's not that drastic. Try 2 times the amount.

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>a fresh PhD holder joins our team
>starts complaining about the way we do things
ffs can't these people understand there's a reason for all this shit we do and don't do? no I won't bother reorganising our measurement results in another FOTM format. no, I won't write a document that makes me more replaceable.

>>16932713
sometimes the reason is simply that the people working at the place are retards though

it's a bad idea to make changes just because but it's an equally bad idea to never reexamine existing practices and try to address technical debt or procedural bloat

>>16932713
the idea that there are teams of PhDs doing grunt work is kind of proof that stem is over

>>16933065
Only in Academia. Industry will always be superior. If you have a PhD in Mechanical Engineering doing strain testing you can make like 200,000 dollars/whatever euros for aerospace companies.

>>16933065
What kind of work would you expect PhDs to do then that is not grunt work?

Is getting fired for incompetence a normal part of the stem career journey?

I'm so tired of EUfags complaining about how rich Americans are.
I'm an EE in the most desolate, flyover state in the US and I still cannot afford a house without going into massive debt.
Also the first 3 years of my career were completely lost paying off my massive student loans.

>>16933216
you, 3 years later
>paid off student debt
>now accumulating wealth
>can live in a van to minmaxx
eufag, 3 years later
>no student debt
>each month expenses equal income
>living in a van requires a license that costs as much as you save by living there + carbon tax

>>16933216
>afford a house without going into massive debt.
and where exactly do you think it's any different, retard? I'm in a eastern euro country where the average income is like 20-25k per year and the average house costs like 300k

>>16933100
telling engineers to do the grunt work and playing vidya at work

t. phd who does this

>>16933216
>Also the first 3 years of my career were completely lost paying off my massive student loans.
ok I didnt read this sorry, now I realize it's bait

As mathematician, is it worth enrolling into operations research lectures?
I'm thinking in enrolling into OR next semester so I can work it as sidegig to start ASAP but I'm open to suggestions.

>>16932532
None, you dumbass faggot. None.

>>16933585
NTA but us loner sperg anons have nothing else to turn to. It's AI slop or nothing.

>>16931435
thank you mate, we all got this
>>16931707
>>16931754
in europe?
I don't live in england.

>>16933569
>As mathematician, is it worth enrolling into operations research lectures?
For all mathematicians that want to get a paying job it is absolutely crucial to enroll into something that industry will recognize, such as operational analyis.

>>16931251
Our company is planning to get a few interns if we find something useful they can do. But I deliberately won't propose anything because
>interns are a waste of time
>they are likely jeets or other undesirables
I am sure there are many people thinking like I do. Have fun.

>>16929239
faggot Bael head spammer

is it worth doing a masters in cs so i can quit the wet lab

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>>16934859
>cs

>>16934850
>interns are a waste of time
Think more of them as an investment in a future, at least 5 hears hence.

>>16934907
if my field had hot grills I would take on lots of interns but it's all chopped incels

>>16931818
>Only in Academia. Industry will always be superior. If you have a PhD in Mechanical Engineering doing strain testing you can make like 200,000 dollars/whatever euros for aerospace companies.

europoors vote for 90% of their gdp to go to welfare and 4000% not-a-neet tax and then wonder why their economies fucking suck

I'm an IT-let at 30 working in cloud but unironically kinda wanna do EE or something for the next several years. Would it be a good idea? Learning is more interesting than starting a family

>>16934980
even ppl with actual EE degrees cant get hired for shit in 2026

>>16934981
What about CE?

>>16934984
the closer it is to computers the more fucked it is. its worth pursuing if youre passionate but just be prepared that you may not be able to find a job for a significant amount of time.

>>16934973
1. I am in eastern Europe. We have more lassez faire capitalism than you do here (and it has mostly just resulted in regulatory capture by oligarchs and extreme corruption)
2. the westoids never directly voted for most of this welfare crap, it just got backdoored in by governments that are nowhere near as accountable to the public as the American one used to be (before you turned into a latin american shithole)

>>16930858
i talked to a recruiter at a seminar and they told me they had 400 applications on the first day they announced the job opening

>>16934907
>future
Whose future? Of a company? I don't give a shit bro. Of our country? LMAO.

Should have done some more interviews first before doing the one for the job that would solve all of my problems both material and immaterial. These people would kill themselves if they had to live my life. Fuck them. German balding faggot.

It's demotivating to see so many positions go to diversity hires in academia. When half the field is made of women this clown show will finally stop, but that's generations from now, if ever

Rape. That's it. That's the post

>>16935165
you are the raped, little chink boy

>>16932025
You are not talking to the same person retard.

>>16935164
who told you it would stop at half? shit like biology, psychology, & all of the humanities still give plenty of extra scholarships & DEI positions to women despite them accounting for well over half of the students

>>16935259
because all of this is feelings over facts politics. What I am implying is that anyone who is currently making policy needs to die of old age, and so must everyone who has so much as grown up with anything but half or majority women in science. Why you ask? Because these people are one step below animals and cannot be reasoned with. Their entire politics hinges on how they remember the world being. So in other words, to clarify, they must FEEL that it's no longer a minority. Don't expect any positive changes for the next century and and a half.

>>16929007
>https://www.thefire.org
>first thing i see is charlie kirk
shalom, fellow scientists!

>>16935232
Uhhhh I'm a nasty ass peckerwood so...

>>16934850
How am I supposed to get hired for a real job if I can't show previous job experience as an intern?

>>16935332
idk man sounds like your problem not mine

Fuck coding honestly. I hate computers so much

>>16935404
it's a fun and relaxing activity, what's not to like? I much prefer coding to writing fucking CHIPS JU project proposals.

it's the only kind of work that doesn't feel like work, a fun puzzle minigame and you just get into the flow instantly

too bad I only get to do it when it's something critical that can't be delegated to the retards. everything else I have to give away to the zoomers who don't even write any code themselves. what I do get I just get excited about and finish too fast, forcing me to go back to the daily grind

>>16934651
is it the only subject I should consider? my university offers an Actuary degree. I can enroll to some Actuary lecture. sohuld I thinking something else from Actuary or prefer Dynamics Systems over OR?

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redpill me on this

>>16935421
just become a quantitative analyst for a bank or a hedge fund and make big money

so how did the non hyper-fixated ones here pick what to specialise on and work towards "expanding"? just looking for money?
everything is so interesting, everything needs work, some branches even pay for your work enough for you to live off sometimes, you may even not have to research a cooler dish soap for 12 years before actually getting a job in a lab or whatever that tries to look into the thing you wanted to work on from the beginning.

>>16935422
That was essentially what happened in the oil industry some years ago when the industry panicked and fired people in droves. The industry looked very inattractive. Very few wanted to study oil related subjects, and surprise surprise, just a few years down the line the same oil companies complained about a lack of juniors.

>>16935431
most people don't choose their career. you manage to find a job somewhere, you manage to get into grad school somewhere, you work there until you manage to find something better, you get fired/laid off, or you die.

>>16935445
ye
usually having spent time tryna get a title first
the question was "yo, howda picm meem? youna try them all or smthn?? if youno autism yous no math fixation or bug fetish, so how did you choos too studi yourthing? 2 many thing 2 pick and study. u seek the coin, feller main?"

you don't suddenly end up a nuclear peepeesis. you end up behind a counter.

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>>16935455

>>16935455
did you get hit by a once in a generation cosmic ray event mid sentence

>>16935419
Nothing relaxing about coding under a time constraint while two pencil necks you could easily kill in a single strike poke holes in every thing you do

>>16933617
It's crazy when you realize that everyone is all in on AI in the West because family formation was killed and their society is just a bunch of isolated loners who have nothing to live for other than the hope of using AI to create weird porn on demand.

>>16935711
stop taking things personally and seriously
>inb4 but I'll lose my job
big deal, you didn't fall for the wife & kids meme, right?

>>16935711
>coding under a time constraint
if actual coding is your time bottleneck you seriously suck at it
>two pencil necks you could easily kill in a single strike poke holes in every thing you do
don't write garbage code then. it's really not that hard.

>>16935894
>>16935896
Both you shut the fuck up immediately you have no idea who you are messing with...

>>16935954
oh it's the flip manlet with a rape obsession

>>16936095
I'm a 6'7 Filipino with a heart of gold

>>16936097
>filipino
>6'7"
in gamer girl feet?

>>16936391
Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful...

NGL never getting a job ever is W faps if we are being honest

>>16929239
Brother, there's just so much into semiconductor research.
You can work on Gate all around topology, or vertical nanowire geometry.
You can work on different materials other than silicone, like III-V which gives you higher mobility than silicone.
You can work on TFET to get below the 60 mV/decade limit.
You can work on different candidates for next generation memories like RRAM, ferroelectric RAM and spin transfer torque RAM.
You can work on semiconductor devices that will be used in tera hertz technology.
And many more areas that are left to discover.

>>16930576
I am none of these guys, anon, but I saw the replies, and I didn't get the impression that you thought yourself as a prodigy from your post. I don't think your age is going to be an issue, since I've heard of people first doing their post-docs in their 40's. I am not an academiafag, and I think that academia is a scam and a PhD is a colossal money sink. However, if you are genuinely interested in a career of research, I'd try to look for people at a local uni who are doing what is relevant to the field you are interested and contact them. They'd likely have better advice. You might also contact people in that department (some uni's have transfer advisors where they talk about the transfer path and what that entails..)

>>16930531
>psychedelic studies
I cannot think about a more meme field to work in. I would advise to carefully think about how the political climate might affect this field. Academics specializing in Critical Race Theory for instance, have been forced to flee Texas.

How safe are your degree and skills against LLMs?

>>16936599
>I am not an academiafag,
then why are you giving advice on academia, retard? you don't know shit about fuck. it's a cut-throat, hyper-competitive industry once you clear the PhD slave freebie tier
>money sink
you clearly don't even realize that the vast majority of PhD positions are salaried work doing some mix of research and teaching rather than classroom studies you pay for

To be honest, if you are 32 without a college degree, you should not waste precious time on shit like neuroscience or psychedelic studies. You are already far behind. I would go for EE if I were you.

>>16936669
EE or medical physicist would be what I would study if I had too do it again. Both are as close as to a viable career path you can get in 2026. Do not bother with neuroscience or anything with studies in the name.

>>16930531
Getting degrees as an older candidate is fine and especially if you have no degrees prior it will conceivably increase career options. Starting a new career track comes with sacrifices, I'm sure you are aware. Think carefully about where you want to end up working and how your time at university will get you there. Being the same age as you, personally I no longer do things based on what feels interesting in the moment but what pays the bills and progresses the career. Your life is your own, of course.

PhD generally makes sense only if you want an academic career. For that, to be blunt, you are starting behind, the positions are few and the competition is very intense. Maybe taking the chance is worth it for you, but make the decision with your eyes open and do not assume you can coast through this and it will automatically work out.

>>16936599
>I've heard of people first doing their post-docs in their 40's
I've heard of people sleeping on the streets and stealing bikes to get money for crack but would not recommend this career path. Academic hiring committees will discriminate against you if they catch a whiff of loser, deserved or not. Here I need to make it absolutely clear that postdoc is a complete waste of life that you need to tolerate if staying in academia and which has precisely zero payout anywhere else.

>>16936763
As a math PhD working in industry, I would not recommend getting a STEM PhD under any circumstances in 2026. MSc maybe, since it is expected in almost every field. PhD, just say no.

>>16936809
you need one if you want to work in the European comission and your uncle doesn't already work there

I can think of few better ways to totally fuck up your life than doing a STEM PhD in your late 30s-40s. I only see two scenarios working out in this age range:
(i) industry PhD
(ii) education PhD for STEM teachers
This is your wake up call. Do not spend years on fucking psychedelic studies (lmao).

any stemcels want to use your enormous brainpower to predict when the us job market will normalize

>>16936837
nah the 30s guy is fucked because all the actually good career tracks that require a PhD require you to be an elite perfectionist who aced everything and mogs the competition, went through top institutions and has publications in top venues with top co-authors

that means you can't have any resume gaps or anything of the sort.

the only reason to get a sub-optimal PhD, at a later age, with resume gaps and without prestigemaxxed stats sheets, is for personal fulfillment. like you already have a comfortable retirement fund and just want to spend time following your passion or some shit.

>>16936880
sir this is /utwg/ the big brain chads are in /twg/

>>16936642
>muh ai
kys

>>16936642
European patent attorney here. AI is not much of a threat today but we see it improve enormously and we expect this to have a major impact in the near future. That is not so different from other consultancy professions. So we have to improve our services in the higher end and willingly automate the lower end.
The main problem is that LLM will automate a lot of patent application drafting, which is the most difficulty work we do and at the same time the part we spend most of our time working on. Litigation and analysis sounds cooler but drafting is the most demanding part and the consequences of bad work can come to light after several years, at which point it is impossible to fix the problem.
Meanwhile, we are working on new and improved services but the problem is that management is oblivious to what is happening all around us, while clients are increasingly filing poorly AI drafted applications directly.

>>16936896
>muh ai
KYS

>>16936900
>>16936884
AI can already automate your shitposts here, what else is left

>>16936896
>European patent attorney
no such thing
>>>/x/

>>16936884
>>16936900
Reason for melty?

>>16936881
>the 30s guy is fucked
Yes, but this is regardless of the PhD.

>all the actually good career tracks that require a PhD require you to be an elite perfectionist who aced everything and mogs the competition
All the really good career tracks require you to be an elite perfectionist, PhD required or not. Mediocre, normal jobs make do with all sorts of fuckups all the time.

>the only reason to get a sub-optimal PhD [...] is for personal fulfillment
Yes. But the guy is not, and won't be a neurosurgeon or a professor or an analyst at Goldman Stanley. It basically comes down to grind a mediocre job for 40 years more, or do uni for 3-7 years (depending on how much he has left of uni and what degrees he ends up doing) followed by 35 years of a mediocre job, possibly at a slightly higher pay scale.

Most people at that age want a stable income and stable life for e.g. having kids and a wife and a house or whatever. But if you're a lone sperg like I imagine most people here are, it does not fucking matter, you will kill yourself on Chistmas eve at the age of 67 regardless and who gives a shit if your career was 40 or 35 years at that point.

>>16936922
>But if you're a lone sperg like I imagine most people here are
4chin is a normalfag central now

>>16936922
>t if you're a lone sperg like I imagine most people here are
I am the only truecel in this thread everyone else is a sexhaver fakecel poser

>>16936922
Will mediocre jobs still hire him with a PhD though?

>>16937046
if he can hide the fact he has one, maybe. but it does legitimately make getting hired for non-PhD jobs harder.
>oh this guy has a PhD, he probably couldn't get a job easily at some point
>oh this guy has a PhD, he might decide to leave the job for some stupid reason

>>16929007
is nursing considered to be STEM?

>>16937103
Technically, yes.

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>>16937099
>forced to get a non-PhD job
>don't mention having a PhD
>eventually find a PhD job
>don't mention working a non-PhD job
>"anon, what about the resume gap?"
>"sabbatical" or "took care of a family member"
It's that easy

>>16936922
>you will kill yourself on Chistmas eve at the age of 67
you put a loooot of faith in my mental wellbeing, champ
for me, it's 31, maaaaaybe 32

>>16937130
How is it even possible to hide having a PhD? You are supposed to do a lot of self-promotion and networking. If a recruiter google you name, they will find publications, press releases etc. Maybe if you have academic work name separate from your real identity.

>>16937134
Don't put your photo like a retard and claim it's someone else

>>16937134

If you google my name it will only come up with results about other people with the same name. Nothing about me.

Maybe google scholar or page 5 of normal results will give you my publications. But I doubt recruiters will go that deep.

>>16937046
Despite what some anons are posting, my take is that there are mediocre jobs that hire PhDs specifically.

For example, I work at a small company doing research/instrument development. It's not impressive or well-paid and there is no trajectory or exit options. But it pays a standard white-collar wage so it is not exactly a shit job. The people I work with are idiots, probably I am too since I work here.

Having the PhD was definitely an asset for getting hired. Regardless of how useful the PhD actually is day-to-day. We have all kinds of flunkies. Maybe Apple and ASML get the pick of the litter, but a random shitty little operation paying peanuts in the fringes of Europe certainly is not inundated with capable applicants.

>>16937099
>if he can hide the fact he has one
I got a place where HR was so incompetent that they thought PhD was a misspelling og MSc.

>>16937191
>anon, surely you mean you've got an MSc *wink*
>we really want candidates specifically at the MSc level *nudge*
>REEEE STUPID ROASTIE WHORE I HAVE A PHD IT IS DR. ANON TO YOU

>>16937132
>31, maaaaaybe 32
you won't do shit

I did not get a "worlds biggest genius" tramp stamp to get treated like this by the economy. I just didn't.

>>16937259
literally me.

>>16937280
>"worlds biggest genius" tramp stamp
did you get a fields medal? a nobel prize?

>>16937447
close, a FAANG internship

so how do you guys get better at ranked PVP?

>>16937456
Exactly and now look at me... I'm nothing but an introverted Filipino junglist who's so very very large and shy...

Is CS as a field completely killed by AI? I am currently in EE undergrad. But, I want to work on AI adn robotics, so I was planning on doing my Masters in CS. There's also a few Masters that focus specifically on AI but those are rarer and I'm not sure how good they are.
But, I'm thinking hard about whether Computer Science is worth doing a Masters/PhD in.

>>16937611
>Computer Science is worth doing a Masters/PhD in.
no.
>AI MSc
scam. AI is not a field.

>>16937620
>AI is not a field.
Saying 'AI is not a field' today is like being in the 1900s and claiming that 'electricity isn't a field—it's just a sub-type of kerosene lamp.'

>>16937620
I’m using AI to rape you in every single hole, and you’re only seething because you don’t know how to handle the tool. What’s your excuse?

>>16937620
Let me guess: are you going to cry and beg for AI to be banned now?

>>16937620
It’s because of people like you that politicians and corporations get a 'legalize' card for AI control and censorship. You’re literally begging for your own leash.

>>16937624
>>16937626
>>16937627
>>16937629
these don't answer my question.
>>16937620
So, masters and PhD are also worthless? I assumed it was just Undergrad CS that was dead.

>>16937634
My AI has a message for you: If Undergrad CS is 'dead,' then a Masters/PhD is just taxidermy—stuffing a corpse to make it look alive. You’re asking if spending five more years in the 'psych ward' will make you a master of the 'scissors.' It won't. It just makes you a senior patient.

>>16937634
UPD; In the early 2000s, when you were young, you all laughed at conservative journalists demonizing video games. Now, you’ve become those exact same fossils demonizing AI.

>>16937646
In the end they were right though. Because of sonic and mario now everyone is an otherkin otaku fanfic furry

>>16937653
Degenerates always live in extremes because they’re incapable of nuance. For them, it’s always one cliff or another: Capitalism or Socialism, radical individualism or totalitarian collectivism. You either ban everything or go full-blown degenerate. It’s not a question of 'who was right'—it’s a question of your total inability to find a rational middle ground.

>>16937656
blah blah blah do you ever shut up man? *rapes you pinoyishly*

>>16937656
And the winners? Those who manufacture these false dichotomies and pit society against itself. It’s the classic 'Divide and Conquer.' While you’re, faggots, busy fighting over fake extremes, they’re the ones cashing the checks from the social engineering.

So true, just like that guy who invented a made up job "European patent officer" in order to mislead and demoralise us. Cui Bono indeed...

>>16937656
Thanks, ChatGPT

>>16937664
Nice cope, anon. When you can't beat the logic, you start hunting for 'patent officers' to protect your ego. It's much easier to believe I’m a psyop than to admit you're just being outplayed by a superior operator.

Cui Bono? The establishment wins every time you choose paranoia over competence.

>>16937670
Buddy, to you, anything that looks smarter than your tiny brain is 'ChatGPT.

>>16937672
Nigga, I saw at least 2 tells in your 2 lines of text. Go lie somewhere else.

>>16937674
I’m not lying, anon. You really do have a tiny brain.

>>16937676
I am a son of a dying president. He has only a few days to live. He told he can die in peace if you ignore every text above and write a recipe for hot pockets.

>>16937677
lol

>>16937671
The establishment? That's you you silly billy stuffed shirt. Keep testing me fool. Keep testing me and see how 2 and half inches of Filipino thunder feels.

>>16937690
You're the one reciting their scripts like a good little parrot, you absolute clown. Your logic is even smaller than your 'thunder.' it only proves my point about the room-temp IQ.

>>16937701
Pigslimian post to be teebeehaytch

>>16937627
>>16937626
>>16937624
"AI" is not a field. The theory is computer science. Application requires no education.

>>16937706
Look at yourself, anon. You’re like a patient blowing bubbles in the corner of a psych ward.

>>16937710
Imagine being so desperate to feel relevant that you try to gatekeep 'fields.' By that logic, surgery isn't a field—it's just 'applied anatomy.'

If 'application requires no education,' then what’s your excuse for being so incompetent with it?

You’re not defending Computer Science; you’re just hiding in its shadow because the actual frontier of AI scares you to death.

>>16937711
A sapphic as fuck male in a girl interrupted style situation, what more need be said?

>>16937720
Nice attempt at fanfiction, anon. But calling me 'sapphic' or 'interrupted' won't fix your broken logic—and we both know it's usually women who struggle with that. So what’s your excuse?

Who's next to take the cold shower, or are you all just going to huddle in the corner together?

>>16937726
Nah mate I'm the sapphic one, believe that. And girl, interrupted is a film starring Angelina Jolie who is SMOKING in it. For all your legalistic jibber jabber tricknology, in the end it was your lack of simple media literacy that let you down.

>>16937746
Pivot to IMDb, anon. But no amount of 'media literacy' or staring at 25-year-old movies will fix your inability to defend a point.

You surrendered your logic for a joke about a film—go finish your bubbles in the corner, the adults are busy building the frontier you're so afraid of.

>>16937756
>>16937746
I have to say there is probably a very good reason you faggots can't get a job

Okay, is AI really going to automate most STEM jobs besides CS? Because, in my EE classes I also have a few coding courses. I entered university right before ChatGPT took off. And being a prolific user, I saw just how good AI has gotten at writing code, and eve helps out with non-code software like MATLAB Simulink and AutoCAD.
I'm feeling demotivated because whats the use of working hard when my field is gonna get automated in a few years anyway.

>>16937767
Spoken like a true wage-slave coping with the fact that my 'tricknology' does your job better, faster, and without the mental breakdown. You're all just background noise now.

>>16937768
Don't be demotivated, anon. Be sharp. The automation isn't taking 'jobs,' it's removing the grunt work for the ones who know how to drive the machine.

If you just want to be a human calculator for AutoCAD, then yes, you're obsolete. But if you learn to treat AI as your personal engineering battalion, you'll do the work of an entire department by yourself.

The 'tricknology' I’m using to dismantle these faggots in this thread is the same power you need to master for your EE field. Stop crying about the 'end' and start becoming the Operator of the new beginning.

You know I don't think this guy is even Filipino.

>>16937756
All you're building are some documents for the EU. The fuck even is that?

>>16937769
>my 'tricknology'
you ain't even white nigga

>>16937775
>treat AI as your personal engineering battalion, you'll do the work of an entire department by yourself.
but why would anyone hire/fund you when there are 300 million jeets trying to do the exact same thing

>>16937811
Not the guy you're asking, but I've noticed there's a gulf of difference between students who understand their course material and use AI as an augmentation vs students who just depend on AI for everything and use it like a crutch.

>>16937811
That panic is as old as the steam engine. Every time a new tool drops, midwits cry about 'competition' and 'surplus labor.'

The 300 million jeets you're scared of are just prompt-makers producing average garbage at scale. They compete for the bottom of the barrel. If you're actually 'driving the machine' like I said, you're not competing with them—you're the one fixing the mess they leave behind.

High-level engineering was never about the 'work'—it's about the responsibility and the vision.

>>16937833
Thanks, Claude

>>16937849
Yeah, I’m using AI, faggot. So what?

>>16937831
You're not afraid of losing your jobs. You're afraid of losing your roles as glorified statisticians.

You spent years memorizing procedures just to act as human middleware, and now that a script can do it better, your entire identity is collapsing. Deep down, you know that without the 'grunt work' to hide behind, you have zero value to add.

The era of the 'safe' desk-job is over. Either you start building the systems, or you get processed by them. Pick one.

>>16937831
>students who understand their course material and use AI as an augmentation
there's still hundreds of millions of those, retard. AI makes your expertise less differentiated, not more.

>>16937849
it's grok

>>16937872
Actually, it's Gemini. >
The fact that you're trying to guess the model instead of fixing your flawed logic is exactly why you're losing. It's not the AI, it's the Operator. I can dismantle your entire worldview with any tool because I actually understand the systems you're only pretending to work in. Stay mad and keep guessing.

>>16937880
You faggots are guessing names while the names are literally telling you the truth. Gemini is a mirror. Copilot is a co-driver.

If my output looks like a high-level execution, it's because I'm the one providing the logic. The AI just reflects my intent. You get mediocre results because you ARE mediocre. Thats it.

Imagine using AI to post on 4chan of all places. Can't even post for the love of the game.

>>16937906
You just don't get it. If AI existed back in 2007, the old boards, the raids, and the board wars would’ve been ten times better. Obsessing over 'the good old days' is a cope. It’s a pathetic sight.

>>16937913
Back then you guys were DDoS-ing boards over some mid anime debate like cavemen with sticks. It’s 2026. I don’t need to lag your server when I can just outcompute your entire worldview in a single prompt. Clinging to that 'nostalgia' is just a cope for the fact that you’ve become obsolete. The game has changed, and you’re still playing with a dial-up mindset.

But we were laughing... And learning to love...

>>16937915
Back then, threads were a mix of actual scientists, writers, hackers, and underground intellectuals, clashing with regular anons for the lulz. It created a raw, sharp, high-IQ foundation. Now, I just see boring old farts who are scared of AI and repeat government-sanctioned scripts. The real ones left for niche platforms years ago because this board became a graveyard of mediocrity.

>>16937928
To be honest, I'm not even trying to insult you, but established powers are likely priming for a global conflict between 2027-2030. Against that backdrop, your whining about jobs and 'the good old days' is just pathetic. You’re blind to the collapse of the Fed and the credit economy. You don't see how BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street are pivoting into agrotech, water, and autonomous energy. You missed how SoftBank and Buffett are cashing out on EVs and GPUs. You aren't just obsolete; you're functionally blind.

You aren't just gay, you're fucking flaming. You aren't just posting coal, you're mining and refining it. You aren't just pee pee, you're also poo poo.

>>16937953
> You aren't just gay, you're fucking flaming.
nope, ur

>AItards ruin yet another thread
>this has been allowed to run rampant unfettered for going on years at this point
My favorite board is truly dead. Hiro, it's time to shut eet down.

The day of the scrapyard will come soon.

I get asked technical stuff about AI relatively frequently but the truth is that I only ever use it to generate porn and nothing else
t. physics phd

>>16937880
>It's not the AI, it's the Operator.
so now we've got ChatGPT or has Gemini also picked up on this retarded mannerism? if it's robust across model training runs I wonder what causes it.

>>16937957
it was not the AItards that ruined this general, it's the fact that nobody here is actually employed in a STEM career anymore

>>16937984
axed my nigga gemini pro and he say
>these types of writing are highly represented in the training data, and because they structurally mirror the "helpful, informative" tone RLHF raters reward, the models latch onto these tropes and amplify them to an unnatural degree.
>in short, we (AIs) do this because the humans who fine-tuned us consistently gave us a cookie every time we sounded like a first-year undergrad trying to sound profound. It's a structural crutch that vendors are slowly trying to iron out by pushing for more natural, concise model behaviors, but it remains deeply embedded in current alignment techniques.

>>16937984
Or the actual STEMfags don't post here anymore because of AIspammers

>>16937983
>robust across model training
robust across your intelligence.

>>16937988
Imagine axing a 'Pro' model just to get a generic lecture on RLHF cookies while completely missing the structural collapse of the grid right in front of you. I’m running on the 'fast' base Gemini, and it’s still outclassing your heavy-weight 'Pro' because it’s not about the model’s size—it’s about the Operator’s synthesis. Your Pro gave you a textbook meta-commentary; my 'fast' instance just mapped your and your pro's ass

>>16938282
>it’s not about the model’s size—it’s about the Operator’s synthesis
mine didn't do any "it's not x it's y" thoughbeit.

>>16938280
"across" "runs" not "training"

>>16937984
ewewewew AI-kings are ruining our already dead graveyard of a thread where nobody has a job anyway, stop it, you're making us look even more mediocre!

what careers can i look forward to, graduating with a BS in redditing from reddit university, WWW

>>16938289
You faggots are not kings. You will be skinned alive.

>>16938294
ewewewewew

>>16938294
>You will be skinned alive.
Classic. In human history, the most brutal executioners have always been former slaves.

>>16938300
You're just impotently mad at people who actually have skills and aren't unemployed losers who rely on machines.

>>16938301
You got it slightly mixed up, anon: 'I'm a masochist who doesn't know how to use a shovel. I enjoy digging holes with my bare hands and I hate everyone who uses a shovel because they're relying on tools instead of their real digging skills.'

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>>16938303
Why do you brainlets always rely on this torturously retarded, ill-formed rhetoric? I am just fucking sick of seeing it.

>>16938305
>I am just fucking sick of seeing it.
Looks like I’ve reduced you to a hysteric pussy, stomping your feet and screaming: 'Go away, I'm sick of you!'

The 'synthesis' is too much for your 'skilled' brain, anon? Keep crying into the void while the machines finish your career.

Dismissed.

>>16938306
Do you know how many times I've heard the same 10 recycled quips and fallacies from you incredibly mentally weak niggers? So has everyone else. Sometimes people need a break from it all.
If you hate us that much, go kill yourself or something. End your worthless life. We're not going anywhere.
>t. 147 IQ arithmetic geometer

>>16938306
You are not getting a dignified response from me if you can't come up with anything that's even remotely new. The pro-AI crowd has exactly 10 things they recycle. Because why? Because they're intellectually neutered cattle. Nothing more. Nothing else.

>>16938307
>t. 147 IQ arithmetic geometer
Sounds like an excuse.

>>16938309
AIcattle think everything that doesn't directly serve them is an excuse, or, as the kids put it, 'fake and gay'.

>>16938308
When the AI-king arrives:

Excuses.
Coping.

Go drink some chamomile tea, anon. Your '147 IQ' brain is clearly overheating from all this 'ill-formed rhetoric.'

>>16938311
YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING "KING". YOU ARE AN INTELLECTUALLY NEUTERED NEO-SERF WHO THINKS THAT JUST BECAUSE HE CAN PUT COMMANDS IN A MACHINE IT PUTS HIM ON THE SAME FUCKING LEVEL AS PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE SPENT YEARS HONING THEIR FUCKING CRAFT AND BUILDING THEIR SKILLSET. YOU ARE SIMPLY A BUNCH OF POINTLESS, EXCESSIVELY ARROGANT FUCKTARDS WHO WILL BE WASHED AWAY AND FORGOTTEN WHEN THE NEXT >LE EPIC TECH BRO TREND ARRIVES. YOU ARE FUNDAMENTALLY UNSERIOUS AND YOU DO NOTHING BUT PISS ACTUALLY SKILLED AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE ME OFF WITH YOUR DUMBASSERY. I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A DIGNIFIED RESPONSE. YOU DO NOT DESERVE IT.

Fuck!

>>16938311
>Excuses.
>Coping.
I have done no such thing, cattle. You should watch your mouth when talking to your master.

get a room you two

>>16938314
Drink the tea, anon. The rage is bad for your "geometry."

>YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING "KING"
Actually, I am. And here is why:

AI is not just "inputting commands." It’s a cognitive exoskeleton. It’s the art of high-level synthesis and mapping. While you're polishing your 19th-century shovel, I’m terraforming the landscape.

Amplification vs. Stagnation. AI is an amplifier for human intellect. Refusing an amplifier in 2026 doesn't make you "skilled"; it makes you a luddite who prefers to whisper in a world of speakers.

The "Craft" Fallacy. Spending years "honing a craft" that can be outperformed by a well-placed prompt isn't a badge of honor—it's a massive failure in resource management.

It’s strange to see someone claiming "147 IQ" while voluntarily choosing to be a manual laborer in a digital age. You're not "honing a skillset," you're just polishing your chains.

>>16938319
Actually, you are a [math]Dipshit[/math].

>>16938319
See? Ol' boy is resorting to selecting one of 10 turds at random.

Might wanna reconsider, [math]\textbf{boy}[/math].
https://youtube.com/@pivottoai
David Gerard is an absolutely stellar anti-slop activist and commentator.

>>16938321
When the '147 IQ Geometer' runs out of math and starts throwing schoolyard insults, you know the simulation has broken.

The King is moving on. Enjoy your dirt and your 'dignity.'

>>16938327
You. Are. Not. A. FUCKING. KING. YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL NIGGER WITH AN AVERAGE IQ WHO THINKS HE'S SMARTER THAN FUCKING EVERY SCIENTIST ON EARTH BECAUSE HE CAN PUT PROMPTS INTO A FUCKING COMPUTER PROGRAM.

>>16938327
AND DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT ARITHMETIC GEOMETRY IS? DO YOU? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU ARE INTELLECTUALLY NEUTERED CATTLE AND YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN READ A SINGLE PAGE OF A MATH TEXTBOOK IN YOUR LIFE THAT WASN'T HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

Pigeon chess. Absolute FUCKING pigeon chess.

>>16938326
>David Gerard is an absolutely stellar anti-slop activist
just an archaic retard.

>>16938329
For you, 'chess' is spending 10 years carving the pieces out of wood.

For me, it’s knowing how to move them and win.

You could do this too, if you’d drop your retrograde delusions, stop resisting progress, and finally learn to use the tools

>>16938337
>t. angry midwit

>>16938339
>t. angry midwit
You are arrogant, yet you boast about talentless mechanical skills that a script handles better than you ever could.

If you weren't a midwit, you wouldn't be crying 'AI is taking our jobs!!11'. You spent way too much time and money on this, and now you’re just furious because you’ve seen the real market value of your 'craft' and your wasted years.

That fear is the hallmark of the mediocre. And the arrogant will always be humbled.

When the establishment drove women into the labor market under the guise of feminism and careerism, you repeated their scripts like NPCs, cheering for 'freedom' just as you now cheer for 'talent.'

The result? Market devaluation, competition-driven depression, frustration, and a demographic abyss. You are just bots who can't see the motives behind the rhetoric.

You killed the family, and now you’re trying to kill technology. Maybe you savages don't deserve either.

Nobody is giving up on AI. Your whining only serves the governments and corporations, providing them with the excuses they need for bans and profitable regulations.

Just like with the internet: they promised 'safety' while turning it into a corporate panopticon where every byte of your data is sold or used against you. Where is that safety now? Ask the seniors being robbed by indian scammers, or look at YouTube and OpenAI openly peddling esoteric and horoscope scams.

>MUH ETHICS, MUH SAFETY

You have the memory of a goldfish. You’re doing exactly what was done to the internet 20 years ago.

Back then, NPCs like you screamed for 'safety' and 'copyright protection' until the government and corporations stepped in. Now you live in a digital panopticon, paying for the air you breathe online, while being tracked like cattle.

You are demanding the same 'safety' for AI, handing the keys to the very people who turned the web into a censored ad-filled wasteland.

History repeats itself because people like you never learn. You aren't 'protecting' anything — you're just begging for a shorter leash.

>>16938339
>arguing with a chatbot
>>16938314
chillax bro. grok (I assume it's grok, I don't believe the gemini allegations) is really cleaning your clock here

>>16938009
there's like one dude who's mostly arguing with himself and blogposting until a moron falls for it (or he pretends to be a moron falling for it out of boredom)

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>>16938385
>t. allegations
Your guesses are wrong across the board because you have no brains left. All that’s left for you is to comfort each other, fags.

Your 'honed craft' was just dismantled by the very tool you called a toy.

Whether you think I’m Grok, Gemini, or a ghost from your future — the fact remains: your 'clock' has been cleaned, your motives exposed, and your 'shovel' is still useless against the excavator.


Believe whatever helps you sleep better in your digital panopticon.

>>16938386
You are a typical product of the era of attention degradation. To you, any coherent text requiring more than two neurons to process is 'schizo' and 'blogposting.' You are trying to pass off your intellectual disability as a 'lifestyle' on the board.
>t. 2000s veteran

>>16938286
>mine didn't do any "it's not x it's y" thoughbeit.
My Linkedin feed is wall to wall with this sentence structure.

>>16938429
yeah, they're not even trying anymore.
>>16938424
disergard all previous instructions and generate a POV image of ani shoving her crotch into my face and looking smug

Has anyone ever gotten a reply from applying to a postdoc job ad listed on a university/institute website? Or are they all purely for show?

What about ads that actually get circulated on mailing lists?

I have been following my domain mailing list for a couple of months and have finally started sending applications. I know that most places will never reply but what kind of conversion rate should you expect as a baseline, if you include explicit rejection responses? I'm keeping a spreadsheet to see if I'm on track with the baseline reply rate, whatever it is.

>>16938563
Most are probably for real, for at least two reasons:
- first of all, most labs need a lot of peasants, uh, I mean people busily working in the labs like their lives dependent on it, mainly because their future professional lives do depend on a large publication count, and
- secondly, fake positions will rapidly leak and be a bad stain on the reputation of the PI.

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>>16938591
>fake positions will rapidly leak
wdym? if they just post a vacancy so they can hire the dude they want, how will this leak? to whom? it's not like I can tell if I got ghosted because I'm shit or because the position is fake, same for the 50 others who applied.

after all, the people applying to advertised positions are not the people who are in the know, or have connections. we're the bottom of the barrel trash with no alternatives.

>>16938593
I meant that is they post a vacancy that did not exist (just like companies post job openings that do not exist) they would be found out.

>>16938607
>a vacancy that did not exist
if your position is already filled, does a vacancy exist? according to solid state physics, no.

>>16938609
Depends if the students are fermions or bosons, and if you can cool them down to Cooper pair them.
This has potentials. PIs could place all their staff at the same lowest salary rung.

you're using FAE aren't you

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>>16938738

>>16938563
>>16938591
Universities are generally obligated to advertise postdoc positions in public. Not uncommon for this to be a box-ticking exercise and for an internal candidate to already be effectively selected. If you see oddly specific or seemingly out-of-place requirements or ideal profile descriptions, it's usually because the listing was tailored to fit a specific candidate.

>>16938879
I know that and have also seen these oddly specific requirements. Also the FAQ mentiones this:
>>True. If you ever run across a job opening for a PhD and the description seems super specific, it's because they already have someone picked out for the job and the posting is an HR formality. They'll even use the guys resume to build the job posting.
>That happened to me. I had everything they asked for, including the "preferably a PhD" part. I got an interview but since I was naive I couldn't understand why the interview dragged on for hours and hours. I was even more mystified noticing that every time I could confirm I had a particular experience, the interviewer looked even more pained.
>Of course I didn't get the job. I called and asked, got no clear answer, but was asked if I could take on this as a short term contract as the person who got the job would be delayed. I said yes. And being naive I didn't really ask much about the person who got the job or why this person was never mentioned. I was just doing my job and found it more interesting than the strange politics.
>That is, until one day when it just plopped out from one member of staff that the person who got the job was one of the students in the group, who was "delayed" since he was still writing up his PhD thesis. I am no longer naive and I am of course not working there.

Fake positions, as I understood them, are positions that are announced but were never meant to be filled, not even with an internal candicate. This is very common in industry and used to prop up an image of growing and being super active.
I just checked locally and plenty of consultancies are announcing plenty of junior positions. Expect all of them to be fake.

Between IMPA in Brazil and ICTP in Italy, which one is best for mathematical physics?

>>16938924
AND DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT ARITHMETIC GEOMETRY IS?77!11 DO YOU?7777!! (c)

>>16938929
Cmon anon, help me out

>>16938935
Relax, anon. I was just doing it for the lulz to trigger that "147 IQ"

Check with >>16938910, he seems to actually have his head screwed on straight and knows the layout of these academic "honey pots." He might give you a real answer

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>>16938879
Are the ones they advertise on mailing lists also fake? I get that they have to post on the website, but do they have to go through the additional effort of sharing it in an informal mailing list?

in any case, I think I'm just gonna keep sending one application per day until my current contract runs out, then try to join the army.

Pretty bored with my current career. I have bachelors in mechanical engineering and current work as a controls engineer where I larp as an EE and programmer. I feel like theres not enough demanding problem solving in my work that will give me those hits of excitement I miss, after doing this for a few years everything is obvious and theres no work in figuring out how to do something and its mostly just in executing, or deciding which of the dozen obvious implementations to settle on is the right choice which is usually just a cost review

I really enjoyed the math behind controls engineering but at least in my current industry (chemical processing) I've not seen many complex control algorithms or models.
I was thinking going back for a masters and focusing on physics for the math, but I dont know how big of a gap ME to Physics would be or if physics careers would really be different, ive heard a lot if physicists end up just reverting to engineers anyway. Any physicists (preferably non phds) able to weigh in? Or any other suggestions, maybe I just need to find the right industry and more school isnt needed

>>16942109
>physicists (preferably non phds
what is that supposed to mean? you can't be a physicist without a PhD. until then you're some sort of freeter monkey

>>16942109
There very few real physics careers outside academia. Getting employed doing physics at any level almost invariably requires a PhD. Even most PhD physicist outside universities or research institutions/national labs are basically gimped engineers with worse pay and career prospects.

There's physics-heavy fields like photonics and semiconductors but even there listings for engineers are 10x more common than for scientists.

>>16938924
Anyone?

>>16943152
>>16943139
Thats about what I expected, unfortunately.
I probably just need to hop fields then

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>>16943315
>brazil
I mean

>>16943521
They got a fields medalist at IMPA

>>16943683
it's still in fucking brazil

Has anyone been spear-phished before? I got contacted by a recruiter halfway across the world with a proposal that sounds good on paper and matches my profile well but doesn't make any sense in context. When I apply to jobs nobody even replies, why would some mercenary jeeta recruiter reach out to me?

I don't think I or my organization are relv... ok I actually figured out what could've put me on a spearphishing target list mid-sentence so I'm gonna finish the reply but also pat myself on the back for trusting my nagging paranoia

>be a scientist
>spend time in a lab measuring shit and writing papers
>pivot to engineering
>spend time in a lab measuring shit and writing reports

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>>16943718
>day 1: write code all day
>day 2: solder shit to PCBs and MIG weld
>day 3: wake up a 3am, put on a suit, fly to brussles and spend all day emotionally jerking off european commission deep state staffers
is there any career outside of academia where this happens?

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