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Well?
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ChatGPT: 2.9348637069 Units
Grok: 0.9625 Units
Claude: 2.318 Units
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>>16929493
*the hand movements*
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>>16929495
Gemini via Google Image Search: 0.8 Units
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>>16929497
Four different AI's with four different answers. Surely this will replace humans
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>>16929486
i give up but thanks for the template, i was looking for it for a while
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>>16929502
Math-GPT.org says the radius is 2 Units, and included all of this.
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>>16929502
Just gotta take the vibe average.
I call it The Wisdom of AI Crowds.
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>black triangle contains 25703 pixels
>circle contains 24578 pixels
>heron's formula gives 8.1815
>r = sqrt[24758*8.1815/(25703*pi)]
>r = 1.58
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>>16929506
DeepAI Math says 1.26 units.

ThetaWise asked me for clarification, first one to do that, wanting me to verify which edges the circle is tangent to. Result: 1.5723590188
Hey that's pretty close to >>16929510
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>>16929521
Almost looks like it's pi/2
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>>16929486
This is what simulation software was made for
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>>16929486
I got everything except for the circle I guess I don't know shit about how circles work.
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VS Code + Copilot, GPT 5.4
This one is exciting, full of twists and turns, countless python libraries.
We're at 15 minutes in it's asking for an approval:
>$ProgressPreference='SilentlyContinue'; Invoke-WebRequest -UseBasicParsing "https://www.google.com/search?q=\"Two+triangles+and+a+circle+are+inside+a+square\"+\"triangle+BDC+are+8,+4+and+5\"" | Select-Object -ExpandProperty Content | Out-String
It's been another ~5 minutes, it wants another:
>$ProgressPreference='SilentlyContinue'; $url = 'https://www.bing.com/search?q=Two+triangles+and+a+circle+are+inside+a+square+triangle+BDC+8+4+5'; (Invoke-WebRequest -UseBasicParsing $url).Content | Out-String
It's been about a half hour total so far and it claims to be writing the solver.
>I’m writing the solver now. It will reconstruct the key geometry directly from problem.png, annotate each detected feature, and save a step-by-step visualization plus the computed radius.

>python .\solve.py .\circle.png
>Saved step-by-step visualization to: .\solution_steps.png
>Detected radius ≈ 1.547 units
>This is reconstructed directly from the image using line, contour, and circle detection.
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>>16929565
Tell it to label every angle and side
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>>16929486
r≈3.24255, pretty straightforward, no real tricks, just long-ish
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>>16929543
Just look up an inradius formula for a triangle (extend the lines). The formula itself is simple to prove/understand why it's true (just look it up)
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Decided to see how quick this would be in CAD, took about 1 minute with very little thought involved.
The radius of the circle is 1.531 units.
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>>16929486
My bad, >>16929575, forgot a term somewhere, it's r≈1.47219
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>>16929588
what do you get for your other lengths?
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>>16929592
this I guess
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>>16929569
I tried. It has not gone well.
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>>16929599
Oh i see what I did wrong, yes
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>>16929588
Now do the closed form
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>>16929638
[math]
256r^4-1792r^3+4016r^2-3328r+841=0
[/math]

[math]
r=\frac{1}{8}\sqrt{112-16\sqrt{33}-8\sqrt{70-12\sqrt{33}}}\approx1.531
[/math]
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>>16929650
Looks like it's not right
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>>16929653
I didn't question the robot.
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>>16929638
Not possible, it's just a bunch of quadratic intersections, so like an at least an 8th degree polynomial. You could easily write it in terms of the top lengths though with inradius and trig
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>>16929486

system:
5^2 + 4^2 – 2*5*4*Cos[γ] = 8^2
δ + ε = π – γ
(5*Cos[δ])*(5*Sin[δ])/2 = (4*Cos[ε])*(4*Sin[ε])/2
s = 5*Cos[δ] + 4*Cos[ε]
π/2 < γ < π
0 < δ < π/2
0 < ε < π/2

solution:
Cos[γ] = –23/40
Cos[δ] = Sqrt[50 + 979/Sqrt[610]]/10
Cos[ε] = Sqrt[32 + 241/Sqrt[610]]/8
s = Sqrt[128 + 1553*Sqrt[2/305]]/2

vertices of square:
O = (0, 0)
A = (0, s)
E = (s, s)
F = (s, 0)

vertices of obtuse triangle:
B = (0, s – 5*Sin[δ])
C = (5*Cos[δ], s)
D = (s, s – 4*Sin[ε])
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>>16929486
the greeks wouldve figured this out with a piece of string
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>>16929495
Gemini: The radius of the blue circle is 1.
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>>16930112
That cant be 1, because from >>16929497 it's 0.8.
It's silly
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>>16929506
>>16929521
>muh ai
kys
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>>16929565
>>16930112
>>16930654
I forgot about these. KYS.



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