Isar Spectrum - editionprevious >>16928375
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7955/second launch tomorrow
>>16931193
"Not clickbait!"
This murders sea turtles.
>>16931208Why is it called a block when it's clearly round
Cancel _____
>>16931217sfg
>>16931217Vulcan
>>16931217Starship. It's a fucking steel trash can.
>>16931211because it blocks spacex from making any progress
>>16931211because its block-sized
>>16931217boing
>>16931217Earth
>>16931001QRD?
>>16931189thread title curse: the launch is now delayed until at least the 23rd due to weather
>>16931217the atmosphere. All it does is cause delays due to weather and upper level winds.
>>16931239now fill in the 'benefits' column
>Initial Super Heavy V3 and Starbase Pad 2 activation campaign complete, wrapping up several days of testing that loaded cryogenic fuel and oxidizer on a V3 vehicle for the first time. While the 10-engine static fire ended early due to a ground-side issue, we saw successful startup on all installed Raptor 3 engines. Next up: preparing the booster for a 33-engine static firehttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/2034274447830479083?s=20
>>16931217Mars
>>16931245well thats good. im just not going to get down about starship, thats all.hahahahaha
>>169312452 weeks until static fire and then 2 weeks until launch?
Spacewalk happening and nobody posted?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlB_ZtDLAOQ
>>16931254I always wanted you to go into space, man
>>16931255Much thank you sir.
>>16931254thanks for the link mate!
good lookin my G
>>16931254Almost 100 spacewalks and no one has untethered themselves and leaped into the darkness yet. For some reason that's a bit surprising to me
>>16931263they seem to be watching for signs of suicidal ideation a bit too closely.
>>16931263You'd just end up falling back to Earth instead of floating into space, so you'd basically just be jumping from really high up which wouldn't be as cool as it first seems
>>16931266>so you'd basically just be jumping from really high up which wouldn't be as cool as it first seemsFelix seemed to enjoy it, apart from that uncontrolled spin he was in for a while.
is the starlink sats debris still falling after the initial burn?
Deorbiting from the ISS would take like nine months, but you'd run out of oxygen in like eight hours. So really you'd just be flying around Earth a short distance from the station until you suffocate like a big retard. I guess it would be an interesting place to die, but it's also a funny thought that someone would do all that stuff to become an astronaut, just so that they can go die in space
>>16931245https://x.com/danhuot/status/2034274675166003290
>>16931248No. Elon Musk said it will launch this month.
>>16931263Maybe I am wrong but I think it wouldn’t be hard to catch an astronaut that pushed himself off, the ISS has enough delta-v for that. Just not sure what they would actually do, would be hard to force someone into the ISS against their will and they could be a huge safety risk for the crew.
>>16931248Apr 13
I randomly thought of Spectrum Flight 2 out of the blue and thought I'd missed it so I came here to ask. What a coincidence. Anyway, what're the chances they make it past the mountain in the background this time?
>>16931299flight two loses contact midway through the second stage burn. feel free to screencap this post.
>>16931278Well technically the booster is back down, but yeah I get the gist of what this meme is trying to convey. Maybe the right time to post this would have been during a full stack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlQYU3m1e80
>>16931338dan huot is one of the people that appear in starship launch streams frequently
>>16931245https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034295650297504208
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034364437302534574
So i played this PC-98 porn game named "Nova" recently and it got me thinking: since it's pretty clear we need a ASI of some kind to maintain ships that are going to other stars what the fuck are we gonna do if it decides that it doesn't want the humans to leave the ship?
>>16931366imagine taking a crater on the moon and making a fuckhuge telescope out of it. We could do free colonoscopies for the aliens in neighboring star systems
>>16931366elon needs to quickly clarify that it wont be spacex building or paying for the telescopes
>>16931211it weighs as much as a block
>>16931366How would that help? It's not like any of the colliders fundamentally changed anything
>>16931194why the hell would you go northwest
>>16931303not the same without sound
>>16931377at some point you need new data or a new piece of equipment to run experiments with
>>16931366I need to know what Elon thinks about launching probes to dwarf planets and outer moons on Starship.
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2034201294400066032
>>16931383might want to look at a map of norway
I don't understand how waste heat is a thing. Why don't you use the heat to produce electricity?
Blackrack is a god. https://ahwoo.com/news/4807024/kitten-space-agency/planetary-rings
>>16931390There's still energy left in your shit why don't you eat that for food?
>>16931396>balloon satellite filled with gas>fill with propellers>produce energy from gas traveling across the heat differential
>>16931397Your llm isn't making any sense
>>16931400it just feels like a waste to radiate it all out if some of it can be converted into energy, even at a terrible rate
SLS rolling out tomorrow at 8pm ET.
>>16931402Heat can't convert to useful energy, only heat differences can
>>16931414"Our last best hope for reaching the stars."
>>16931387From another one of his lawsuits, Elon is a Ketamine addict. So, his thoughts really aren't thoughts anymore.
Okay so what does Ketamine think about launching probes to dwarf planets and outer moons on Starship
>NASA’s X-59 During Engine Run Testing at Dawn >NASA’s X-59 quiet supersonic research aircraft sits on the ramp during engine run testing on Thursday, March 12, 2026, at NASA’s Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California. Engine runs are one of the final tests before the aircraft is ready for its second flight. The data collected from the aircraft during upcoming flight tests could help inform future regulations for commercial supersonic travel over land. https://images.nasa.gov/details/AFRC2026-0048-17
>>16931349"The rocket didn't fail! It was groundside! Squirrels got into the wiring. Honest!"
>>16931428The whore of the image archive has returned!
>>16931390its not that easy in waste heatery
>>16931423said no one ever
>>16931427Did you read the Starship Uranus Orbiter paper? If Starship worked, it won't but if it did, you can launch fug huge probes anywhere in the system, especially the gas giants where you get an aerobrake aerocapture option.
>>16931263You'd just drift and come back to the airlock one orbit later
>>16931263First, they weed out people who have brainfarts like that in training, second, your dead body would eventually find it's way back to the station.
>>16931388the thumbnail looks like one of those isometric minecraft maps
We're up again. East Coast, 6:35 AM tomorrow.
>>16931461Cloud cover looks reasonable in most locations
In a happy twist of fate, NASA's Hubble Space Telescope witnessed a comet in the act of breaking apart. The chance of that happening while Hubble watched is extraordinarily minuscule. The findings are published in the journal Icarus."Coincidence" and totally not the Aliens hitting Self Destruct when they realized they were discovered.
>>16931462Do you still get jellyfish effects in sunset launches in a vacuum, or in a tenuous atmosphere such as Mars?
>>16931465Even with Webb (which isn’t exactly a pure replacement) and whatever the next true hubble-successor will be, I wonder if it’s worth the $ to go reboost Hubble and try to squeeze more science out of it. It sure does find a lot of shit even if you just point it at random ass spots.
>>16931465"Let our deaths show the sincerity of our apology to the Galactic Emperor for our failure."
>>16931428This whole project is so dumb. A private company already did what NASA was trying to do in the time it took them to do a single engine test
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034436209809019370
>>16931474Elon Musk@elonmuskAny1 have Ketamine 4 sale? Got $$$.
>>16931474DAE Elon poop his pants and smokes weed 420? Mom get the camera!
>>16931474
we can mock elon all we want, but everyone else is a worse slacker than him. fuck jeff doin?
>>16931498Elon never said anything about "human" consciousness
>>16931474Who believes this? Just tweet the same tweet a trillion times for 20 years, that's as good as actually delivering, right?
>>16931503Humans aren't conscious and neither are stochastic parrots.
>>16931502don't make me post the tortoise pic
>>16931504perhaps it was a dig at shuttle since shuttle was reusable but not as useful
>>16931503ok, but he's been saying variations of the phrase "humanity out among the stars" for years
>>16931471they aren't the same thing
>>16931509*Shittle
>>16931503Grok, is she right?Nope. Elon Musk views human consciousness as a fragile "light" in the universe, aiming to protect it through technology, AI integration, and space exploration. His goal is to expand human consciousness, enhance decision-making, and create a "global collective consciousness" through platforms like X, while using Neuralink to eventually upload memories and digitalize consciousness. Was Elon high when he said that?Oh, hell yes.
>>16931546Grok’s drinking the Kool-Aid (or maybe just the Tesla Tequila). Let’s peel back the sci-fi coat of paint and look at the actual facts:Reality check— Elon loves the "candle in the dark" metaphor for consciousness. It’s great for marketing Starship, but it’s essentially a philosophical vibe, not a technical roadmap. Protecting consciousness by moving it to Mars—a place actively trying to kill humans—is a bit like "protecting" a candle by taking it outside into a hurricane.Calling a social media platform a "collective consciousness" is a massive reach. Right now, X is mostly a global town square for fascist memes, brand accounts, and bot-driven arguments. Aggregating data into an algorithm isn't "consciousness"; it’s just a very loud, very chaotic feedback loop.Neuralink is where the hype hits the ceiling. It is currently a Brain-Computer Interface (BCI) designed to help people with paralysis play videogames (badly). We are decades (maybe centuries) away from "uploading memories." We don't even fully understand how the brain stores memories yet, let alone how to convert them into a .zip file.Yep— Musk’s most "visionary" tweets usually happen at 3:00 AM and sound exactly like a freshman philosophy major on a ketamine bender.Grok is selling you the movie trailer version of Elon's goals. The actual feature film is mostly just mediocre, rife with fraud, nothing to do with reality.
>>16931548go back to plebbit
>>16931550Go back to gluck gluck glucking Musk-cock
Musk’s most "visionary" tweets usually happen at 3:00 AMGrok? Other names Special K, K, ket, kitkat, ketters, super k or horse trank.
should I post the graph? I think I have to post the graph
>>16931548Galloway has super EDS. Also remember him always boosting teslaq fags back in the day.
this is how sfg degenerates when nothing is happening
When will we watch an actual orbital Starship get caught by the chopsticks ffs?
>>16931561I see him everywhere, I don't follow him. Seems to have a hot take for everything. I find him funny, always has the exact same face and monotone voice, super serious and fighting for common sense or someth idk
>>16931548>>16931553Sus image file names
>>16931576Actually the best time on /sfg/ is long periods after a happening, with no upcoming happening in sight. The worst is just after a launch, or close to the next one.
>>16931588I think Chance renames them
>>16931341>finally watched the hullo videoso cooling data centers in space is easily plausible. so we got the power, cooling, and hardware worked out. all they need now is to launch some test articles.
>>16931596No, the AI hucksters need an actual market other than bubble money changers. There is no real demand for a vast fleet of generalized AI sats.
>>16931597>making songs>making youtube videos>using it for vibe codingthese are already applications that people pay money for
>>16931597All AI applications use Inference Clusters to do computational tasks. As the models get bigger, the amount of compute needed to complete a single query gets bigger. The amount of compute needed is already large, and is poised to get even larger. You need about ten times as much RAM as your parameter count. Tomorrow's models are designed for trillions of parameters. When all is said and done, one satellite doesn't actually fill very much demand for high complexity tasks..
>>16931596>all they need now is to launch some test articles.no, all they need now is something capable of actually launching and being reused so it isn't prohibitively expensive
>>16931600AI is bubble malarkey. Period. Grok, do you agree?Yep.
>>16931598Why yes, I do believe there is a multi trillion market for making bad AI YouTube videos.
AI is pretty cool and useful like depthnets and segnets
AI is good for generating pictures of Princess Peach with big breasts
>What happens if China's astronauts land on the moon before the UShttps://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/18/science/video/us-china-moon-space-race-artemis-digvid
>>16931238https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63sLbW_IMoAlmao it actually did
>>16931189>Isarmore shitty indian rockets
>>16931634>What happens if China's astronauts land on the moon before the USNothingLiterally nobody in the west cares about space exploration.
>>16931388fucking hell, that must be an absolutely massive building with the white roof, next to that tiny truck on the road
>>16931388>Dirty roofFelon(Will be in prison in 2029) Husk(Muskrat) can’t even clean his own roof? yet he thinks he can go to the Moon?
/sfg/ is dead
>>16931596I don't see how it's ever gonna be cheaper than just building them on the ground.
Bump
>>16931738It won't be cheaper, but it could potentially be easier and faster than trying to get land needed with sufficient power in a reasonable amount of time.
>>16931738Never underestimate the power of bureaucracy and the NIMBYs who wield it.
>>16931740>>16931745You still gotta go through the bureaucracy to get permission to launch and use the orbits and radio frequencies and what not, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC7nZBRTAHk
>>16931746That still exists, but it's not dealing with the same more local versions of it. It's one process that could scale easier, and each launch brings it's own power source.
>>16931746That's like 2 federal agencies that you need to go through.Meanwhile trying to build anything bigger than a shoebox in the US means 5+ years of 'environmental reviews' and 'townhalls' and schmoozing the local government so they don't rape you with taxes that they will literally just invent.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2034698115320516855https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-19/nasa-plans-bigger-spacex-moon-mission-role-in-blow-to-boeing>With the new proposal, Boeing's SLS would no longer be used to boost Orion close to the moon. Instead, Starship and Orion would dock in Earth orbit, giving Starship the pivotal role of propelling the capsule to the moon’s orbit, before taking astronauts down to the surface.
SLS will launch on April 1st, as a joke.
>>16931753It will launch on 4/20. Then FTS will be activated as a blaze it joke.
>>16931752got an archive link? I'd do it myself but I'm a bit occupied at the moment.
>>16931752https://x.com/business/status/2034696636169871419
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/a-private-space-company-has-a-radical-new-plan-to-bag-an-asteroid/>It may sound fanciful, but a Los Angeles-based company says it has conceived of a plan to fly out to a smallish, near-Earth asteroid, throw a large bag around it, and bring the body back to a “safe” gathering point near our planet.>The company, TransAstra, said Wednesday that an unnamed customer has agreed to fund a study of its proposed “New Moon” mission to capture and relocate an asteroid approximately the size of a house, with a mass of about 100 metric tons.
>>16931759https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/2034690357712363954
>>16931760Ironically there could be a business case for just grabbing rocks and holding on to them by parking them in orbit. If you're quick you can get the easy ones before everyone else, and then you can sell access to them for research or raw materials.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034712153291419760
>>16931752https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034709008029020207
>>16931759
>>16931747
>>16931770
>>16931757https://archive.is/IkUrq
>>16931771
>>16931773what does it say? I can't open archive is
>>16931776
>>16931774
>>16931767Sawyer the Tesla PimpYikes!Starship needs one refuel to get to the Moon and back to LLO. Then more refuelling to get from LLO to LEO.Using the officiaish NASA number of 12/15 tankers for a refuel, Burger source is 20/40, that's so many tankers and at least one more Depot in LLO. That's the plan to simplify and speed up?
>>16931760So, they just retyped the Asteroid Redirect proposal. Well that's useful.
>>16931752Astronaut eyes pop out of their skulls.
>>16931777Why not just Starship directly? Or if you had to, why not just carry Orion inside Starship as it launches and then refuel? This would save billions per launch
>>16931786why not just carry Orion inside?Because rockets are not Legos.
>>16931777lmaono need for EUS when you make SLS become a LEO taxi
total SLS death
Has anyone here played Children of a Death Earth? Are there any other space combat games(games in general) that simulate orbital mechanics?
>>16931801yes
>>16931789Moon Starship doesn't have the performance for a lunar round trip with landing, unless there's a refueling in LLO, which requires an insane number of tankers for support.One possibility is Moon Starship transports Orion plus Centaur V to LLO, lands, returns to LLO and is abandoned. Orion then brings the Astromutts back to Earth. However, that means Orion is replacing most of the cargo mass, so Moonship isn't building a base. And the margins would be tight.
>>16931810Methalox NTRs on Starship when?
>>16931810You don't even need Centaur V. Orion has enough deltaV for a TEI out of LLO.
>>16931813From (NRHO) yes. That's the reference architecture. From LLO -- not so sure. Gotta cite?
Grok, how shite is Orion?Pretty shite. Orion has less than half the total of the Apollo Command/Service Module system because it is designed for different mission profiles, not direct landing.
>>16931819>stars visible in the background and the moon is too bigwhy is NASA like this?
Grok says:The Orion spacecraft possesses approximately 1,346 m/s to 1,587 m/s of (delta-v) capacity in its European Service Module. The (delta-v) required to travel from the Moon to Earth is relatively low, typically ranging from roughly 700 m/s to over 1000 m/s to leave low lunar orbit (LLO) and perform a trans-Earth injection (TEI). Because you get a free brake job in earth's atmosphere. Those are the dealer's sticker numbers. Don't know if Orion has demonstrated that performance.
>>16931771what's the big building for?
https://x.com/fccfilingalerts/status/2034747631420023174
>>16931832building starships
>>16931836they don't seem to be doing a very good job of it
https://x.com/charliebcurran/status/2034760727211483522
>>16931835what a gay ass name
>>16931745you don't need to build them in populated areas>>16931749and you don't need to build them in america as well
>>16931849How dare he present with a partially assembled engine
>>16931847>you don't need to build them in populated areasThey aren'tThat's why the NIMBY shit is so rage inducingNobody gave a single shit about the goings on in rural aeras until some datacenters started being built.It's all pearl clutching
>>16931865>It's all pearl clutchingmostly meddling from foreign adversaries to slow down our progress in AI.
>>16931819HLS isn’t taking Orion from LEO to the Moon though is it?I get the joke though, nonetheless. EDS was weird. It had a loiter interstage with solar panels
>>16931867I believe it's a domestic thing.Datacenters bring LOTS of jobs either directly or indirectly. The one I'm about to go back had hundreds of people just on site.Even the lowest level logistics worker was paid and treated alot better than a serf at Walmart.Call be schizo but I honestly believe the NIMBYs and "liberals" hate decent jobs going to more rural aeras because it kills their lip service they give about bringing jobs to these aeras after they did everything to deindustrialize and take jobs away.
>>16931872I think a lot of it is boomers who just hate the idea of any change at all
STRONG WIND WARNING
we need to use orion for LEO as an alternative to spacex. get it working on new glenn and vulcan asap.
>>16931886its 2 bil
>>16931835>blue origin wants to build 52,000 orbital data centers>strangely the space community has been completely silent about thiswhat happened to the anger, rage, and fear mongering when spacex announced their data center constellation?
>true anomaly is building combat satellites>they have a dozen satellites scheduled for launch within the next 18 months>one of them may be a cislunar satellite, pic relatedhttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/dogfighting-in-space-this-company-builds-satellites-for-high-tempo-engagement/interesting. one of the articles about the space force the other day said they were working on cislunar capabilities.>"we do need to begin integrating cislunar capability into the Space Force, and so we are serious about that"https://breakingdefense.com/2026/03/new-space-force-acquisition-portfolios-include-space-control-orbital-warfare/
Anyone have the V2-chan pic
goodnight /sfg/ :)
Alright /sfg/ you get to have 3 vacation homes anywhere in the solar system. You will get a teleporter hub in your house or apartment to access them. Which 3 locations do you choose?For me it's>Titan on a cliffside overlooking one of the polar mare and also Saturn>The island in the middle of Io's Loki Patera to see the eruptions>Habitat dangling from Enceladus's ice ceiling hopefully in a part with a shallow enough water column to see the seafloor as well as the ice
what kind of physics explains the motorcycle floating in pic related?could we use this to somehow revolutionize rocket technology?
>>16931935>3i Atlas as my mobile vacation home that will allow me to get out of the solar system for free>Deimos for the Mars view>Iapetus to check out Saturn's rings
this nigger is finally out
>>16931945put 'er back in, she's not done yet!
>>16931947the show must go on
>nsf hired a british chick?????????
>>16931935>Eris for the sheer remoteness, frozen atmosphere and possible hospitable subsurface ocean>moon for no other reason than its rightful US territory, also moon rabbit puss>Iapetus because it's the furthest moon from Saturn and possible best observation point. I have a belief that this aera in the solar system around Saturn is where remnants of human memories and achievements can be observed as if they were other bodies or stars. This was revealed to me in a dream.
>>16931950meh
SLS: Our Step ladder to the Stars
>>16931835>not using laser links for orbital data centersAre they even trying?
Polymarket has Fright 12 no later than April 30 crashing down to 42%. Not a vote of confidence.
>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark>Spectrum launch will be in the dark
>>16931960People reporting on polymarket numbers like they mean anything reminds me of back in 2009 when the news media would read hot take tweets from literal whos as if they had any value add to any discussion
>>16931849ITARbros???
>>16931972Did you whine and complain like a hurt girl 17 years ago too, or is that a now thing because your in your 40s and still bitching on a chan?
>>16931960SLS and Starship Flight 12 are both GO for April 1
>>16931958Orion Artemis II Optical Communications System (O2O)That's why SLS is the Future -- Today.
>>16931943The ground falls faster than you are. The motorcycle is suborbital. Literally the basis of rocket technology
He got house arrest on Mars.
>>16931752>>16931758If it's Boing, I ain't going!
>>16931995literally who?
>>16932010The apple tv rocket show with the lesbian brownoids
>>16931995>article author isnt erik burgerONE JOB
>>16931189
>contacted by recruiting manager from spacex >its about developing multiphysics sims at HawthorneBragging because I got the offer. Killing myself because I'm going to reject it.
>>16932059just do it nigga
>>16932059Are you stupid?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034975902686486627
I give up. It's over.Nothing will ever happen again except the slow decline of civilization.
https://x.com/AndrewParsonson/status/2034914631714521249
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/2034952308660785560
>>16932077Elon got a new shipment of Ketamine from his connect. So this is what he tweets.
>>16931366Is it easier to make gay ass particle colliders in the hard vacuum on the moon?
>>16931369>free colonoscopies for the aliensfirst one's free. then the subscription kicks in
>>16931390It's not just about failing to capture residual heat. It's also because people stubbornly refuse to use perfect insulators and 100% efficiency components.
>>16931835What they're proposing would take hundreds of years at Blue Origin pace
>>16932079so, what you're saying is Elon's plan to extend consciousness beyond earth is good?
>>16932091>Elon's planthat's all it will ever amount to. A plan.
>>16932080This could be many countries but they playin around
>>16931982ITAR stands for I Talk About Rockets
>>16932061>>16932070California is the great Satan and I already have a job working remotely that pays well (even if work is shitty).I would probably take it if I didn't have a gf that broke down into tears at the thought of being in a long distance relationship.I would take the job if it were in Texas though.
>>16931402Just make an infinitely long chain of increasingly inefficient heat engines. Eventually your chain will run into a star and you can extract some heat from it.
>>16932100why not tell them you don't want to live in california, but you would be ready to live in texas
the reason why spacex moved to texas? chuck norris
>>16931902Shackleton Disaster type shit fr
>>16931987Struck a nerve I see
>>16932077This might be his best X post yet! Ha ha
>>16932059Ask about the possibility of eventual relocation or working from a different location. If you're going to turn it down anyway, you have nothing to lose by asking.
>>16932108"No -- you!"Grok, was that a snappy comeback?No.
I have it on good authority that Starship will indeed be launching on opposite day
>>16932105what would his opinion be on starship? on sls?
>>16932105just imagine the cool action and martial arts movies that could be filmed in space with the help of starship.on second thought, don't imagine anything, since fucking AI slop is already able to generate anything anyways, what's the point.
>>16932131you now remember that Tom Cruise was supposed to film on the iss
>>16932131>AI slop is already able to generate anything anywaysokay, make it gen something good then>inb4 b-but it will get better(You) have said that ten years ago and you will still be saying it ten years later. Better is not good.
>>16932134what is "good" to you?
>>16932133>on the issit's too crowded up there, specially in the r*ssian section. way too many cables, laptops, and bags floating around. nonetheless, one COULD make a decent movie in such a setting, even if it's CGI and filmed on Earth, see for instance the scifi/horror 2017 movie 'Life'. though in that film they've added several new modules to the iss, and made it look clean and pristine.
>>16932131
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2034991240106614853>The first cladding panels have been installed on the Starbase Gigabay this morning.
>>16932140Wow bezos is finished. HLS landing demo in 2 weeks!
>>16932140tortoise.jpg
>>16932140We're putting new siding on the Garage. Next step Mars!
John Kraus, master of photographic composition lol
>>16932146>rescue the United States of Americayes please
>>16932120Kek, seems I have indeed struck a nerve
https://x.com/HardcoreElectr1/status/2035009448952177046
They’re going to find yet another fucking leak or valve issue or some shit with this SLS rocket, I just know it
>>16932159Better a leaking valve than an exploding COPV.
>>16932159They're skipping WDR this time so they can avoid that.
>>16932145Mars will need garage siding too.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2035019940814622844
>>16932173https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/jeff-bezos-throws-his-hat-in-the-ring-for-an-orbital-data-center-megaconstellation-too/
>SSOso have we decided on clockwise or counterclockwise for the meta-mega-constellations
>>16932175The French would say "better Hitler than Blum." Spacers say, "better Bezos than Musk."
is this /sfg/ approved?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qwCD-cOwc
>>16932182I hate fast-pan and shakycam. Awful for conveying scale.
>>16932182spaceplanes are a dead end technology nobody will be using them in 2062
>>16932185SpaceX will probably already be moved on from 9m Starship by the 2060s lol. To call that dinky little spaceplane outdated is an understatement.The Orion ship is cool though, as always
>>16932182>SSTO on a frankenstein new glenn/superheavy boosterdefeats the whole point of an SSTO lol, and SSTO's don't have a very strong point to begin with.
I thought this was going to be more boring slop but the section where the spacecraft raised its orbit in multiple burns and then Orion firing its engines was kino. Could've done without the AI voice-over though. https://youtu.be/q0qwCD-cOwc
so uhh about that Dreamchaser
>no one commented on the launchIt's sad being the last spaceflight enjoyer left here.
>>16932194rocket lab is a shitty smallsat launcher. I literally don't care
>>16932194I'll start caring when they get Neutron ready
>>16932193I think it’s basically dead now, right?
>>16932194just wait for neutron. smallsats are a diamond dozen now and people just don't care as much, especially now that the chances of it crashing and something interesting happening are lower.
https://x.com/fccfilingalerts/status/2035053542633853224>SpaceX has filed a letter with the FCC requesting that the agency apply the same regulatory scrutiny to Blue Origin’s recent satellite application as it does to SpaceX’s own orbital data center proposal. To facilitate this, SpaceX submitted a petition to deny originally filed by Amazon against SpaceX. SpaceX argues that because Blue Origin claims its system is similar to SpaceX’s proposed network, both companies should be subject to the same substantive and procedural challenges.>The underlying dispute involves SpaceX’s ambitious plan to launch up to one million satellites between 500 and 2,000 kilometers in altitude to create an orbital data center system. Amazon’s petition argues this plan should be dismissed because it lacks essential technical data, including specific radiofrequency characteristics, satellite designs, and orbital debris mitigation strategies. Amazon characterizes the proposal as a speculative placeholder rather than a complete application. By incorporating these arguments into the record for Blue Origin’s filing, SpaceX seeks to ensure consistent treatment and avoid a distorted competitive playing field across the satellite industry.
why is bezos such a litigious little weasel?
>>16932203imagine if he got his way with the landing patent or the 39A lawsuit, yikes
>>16932192The description says it's a voiceover from a friend.There's more kino by them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawCJESqqeU
>>16932202I LOVE LAWFAREI LOVE LAWFARE
>>16932194do you know where you are?read it with me>/sfg/ - Spaceflight Generalthat's right, SPACEflightnow what launch are you talking about? surely not that pitiful leo smallsat pencil rocket, right? because that would be offtopic, yeah?Good. I'm glad we got through to each other.
LEO is more spaceflight than suborbital carnival rides.
>>16932194At least you're the first nigger
Imagine Dragonfly spends six years travelling to Saturn, makes it through EDL, but something goes wrong after landing turning it into a glorified Huygens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Abym-rtII
When the fuck is the next BIG ROGGIT launching. Jesus Christ, it feels like it's been 12 months
>>16932240It's like I'm in some circus attraction trying to be entertained by being shown the most grotesque abominations imaginable with a friendly smile on them
>>16932242about 2 weeks
>>16932243lmao, this nigger deleted his little rant he had last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SOrYbbpFuc
>>16932248about what?
>>16932250
>>16932252Just retarded off topic politics stuff
We have liftoff of another Starlink launch
Really cool angle on the booster during its initial pitchover.
>>16932254Once spaceship is human rated, there is no reason to have a space station with less pressurized volume than starshipJust study your zero g ant colony on a starship hop
another one
>>16932258TDS?
>>16932276
The X-59 already brokehttps://x.com/NASAaero/status/2035072537248584138
>>16932281wrong thread pal
>>16932283somebody forgot to screw in a connector tight enough
>>16932100Just ask them if Texas is possible
>>16932276This is so fucking funny
>>16932281Anime site
https://x.com/StephenClark1/status/2035127848734724471https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/spacex-swipes-yet-another-military-contract-from-united-launch-alliance/>Once again, ULA can’t deliver when the US military needs a satellite in orbit >ULA’s Vulcan launch vehicle is grounded after a solid rocket booster anomaly last month.
>>16932240its live
>>16932254Zero-G stations should be illegal
https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-is-liable-for-some-twitter-investors-losses-jury-says-4b0c10a3https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk-misled-investors-during-twitter-takeover-us-jury-finds-13522415>A US jury has found Elon Musk misled investors by deliberately driving down Twitter's share price in the months leading up to his $44bn takeover of the social media company.>It is not clear what amount in damages Mr Musk will have to pay, but it is likely to be in the billions.it's so over
>>16932307time to switch to liquids like a normal person
>>16932319Can he pay them in grok credits?
>>16932319inb4 he's fined for shitposting about starship later this year. the SEC will not like that.
>>16931217Elon Musk
>>16932323just a coupla niggas
>>16932319He won't pay anything but his lawyer fees after the appeals because everyone knows twitter was deliberately overvalued in an attempt to stop him from buying it.
>ULA is reliant on a single vendor for its rocket enginestime to get more vendors
>>16932352ULA's reliant on three vendors.
>>16932353i mean multiple vendors for each engine type. seems like the lack of competition for engines is creating slackers.
I'm excited for the Swift rescue mission
So, Iran launched a pair of missiles at Diego Garcia air base in the Indian Ocean today. Normally, this wouldn't pass muster as a spaceflight related topic, but Diego Garcia is about 4500 km away from Iran which is well outside the operational range of any of their known ballistic missile systems. https://x.com/Schizointel/status/2035168166742020108>This shows Iran is now dipping into their cache of space launch vehicles and converting them to ballistic missiles these rockets have long been believed to be disguised under civilian purposes for military technology gain in creation of intermediate range ballistic missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles with a capacity to carry a nuclear warhead. Iran has several space launch vehicles that have a 4,000 plus kilometer range depending on warhead weight. >Zoljanah three-stage solid-liquid fueled Space Launch Vehicle if converted into a ballistic missile could have a range between 4,000-5,000 km with a 1,000 kg payload >Simorgh two-stage, liquid-fueled Satellite Launch Vehicle that if converted into a ballistic missile could have a 4,000 km range with a 1,000 kg payload.>Safir-2 two-stage, liquid fueled Space Launch Vehicle (SLV) if converted into a ballistic missile could have a range of 4,000 km with a 1,000 kg payload.One of the missiles missed and the other got shot down by a SM-3. The last pieces of Iran's space program are drying an interesting death.
>>16932311They unironically will be, for health effects. Like how leaded solder got banned
>>16932342Elon was found guilty, but he will win on appeal! He just will okay!
>>16932242Flight 11 before Columbus DayFlight 12 after May DayYeah, it's dragging.
was there a date or timeframe given for the ESA ISS mission?
>>16932378Before the ISS splash.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aed2258>0.33g mitigates muscle atrophy while 0.67g preserves muscle function and myofiber type composition in mice during spaceflight
>>16932390>meanwhile, on titan: 1.352 m/s^2 surface gravity>equal to 0.14gnot looking good, titanbros...
>>16932394There is very little granularity in this initial mouse-model data set. Thresholds are established to exist, but the test range is not fine enough to pinpoint where they are. Somewhere between microgravity and 1/3rd of a G, muscle cross section stops degrading. Somewhere between 1/3rd of a G and 2/3rds of a G, deleterious effects disappear entirely.
>>16932390What's the tl;dr? How does this affect Martian waifus? Will they be tall and graceful, or excessively thin and lanky?
>>16932402tl;dr, 0.67 is enough Gs that no muscle degradation takes place. 0.33 is enough that most of the worst of it is at least delayed. They used 1G and 0G as the other groups so there's no more information than that about other gravity levels.
>>16932402>>16932405Also it was all male mice so no sex specific effects could be seen.
>>16932405.38 is quite a bit above .33, so they might be fine on Mars. And the square-cube law would favour humans over mice, I think.
>>16932390Kinda dumb to use two gravity strengths that exist nowhere in the solar system. Would be more useful to use Moon and Mars gravityHowever knowing that 0.67 preserves muscles completely is quite interesting.
>>16932409Basic research is basic, and the study was probably designed to invite follow-up studies. I'd like to know exactly where the degradation threshold is, if there are any sex-specific differences, and if the same results are exhibited in other mammals.
>>16932358Interesting
>apollo was done in the middle of vietnam>artemis will be done in the middle of iranhistory rhyming, etc.
>>16932319We all know that he's paying off all twitter debts through spacex
>>16932420Nah Trump will TACO before then
Wait lol so now SLS’s only purpose is to put Orion in LEO? Starship will take Orion the rest of the way?Holy shit hahahahah $4 bil/launch for that?! Yeah I’m thinking Jared is gonna kill SLS completely before his term is out
>>16932438Moon ship is going to Luna pushing a 40 ton payload.Not in our lifetime.
no icehttps://phys.org/news/2026-03-shadowcam-abundant-lunar-ice.html
>>16932443Grim
what's wrong with Suriname, why are they the only SA country that hasn't approved starlink?
>>16932446They barely have a government
>>16932447seems fine to me from the wiki page
>>16932443That only excludes sheets of ice right there on the surface
>>16932446It's only howler monkeys living there. Give them a bit of time to work through the process.
>>16932390mice can't do this thoughIt's entirely possible a brief routine with a weighted suit can prevent any damage even at mars gravity.
>>16932254My only spacecraft knowledge are from Kerbal Space Program, and in that game I've learned that a thin line of daisy chained modules together will eventually start whipping on its own and snap.
>>16932390finally after decades the ISS is doing something meaningful.This is extremely promising for space habitats. Lower G = easier/cheaper to assemble. Or we can make them bigger at a similar cost.
>>16932390Pretty terrible resolution. For all we know the actual threshold is at 0.5g or even 0.3794g. I hope they continue to generate more data points.
>>16932283Pilot clearly didn't have his Beemans
>>16932472The jello threshold is 0.39gEven a fraction less, and your babies will grow into formless blobs.No, weighted belts won't do.
"Hey Hey! Question?"
>>16932492Just crash enough asteroids into Mars and we can make that happen.
>>16932492>No, weighted belts won't do.how do you knowwe lack experimental data
What is it like to be underwater in space?
>>16932510dangerous
>>16932510To find out all you need to do is EVA in our lovely aging Collins Aerospace space suits!
>>16932420I mean when is the United States not doing a war somewhere as a hobby?
>>16932510Imagine inserting like a swimming pool's worth of sea water into the vacuum, and it all just sticks together so that it's this big blob of water. It's around 24 Celsius. Then you put like a single Atlantic bluefin tuna fish in there, and then you just watch it swim around in its formless fish tank. The question is, which would happen first: 1) the water radiates all its heat so that the fish dies from freezing, or 2) the fish uses up all the oxygen in the water and dies from asphyxiation
>>16932521it would probably do something retarded and end up ejecting itself from the blob.
>>16932530This anon knows fish
>>16931759I'm TransAstra btw if that matters
>>16931943It's literally how satellites stay in orbit, they move fast enough horizontally so they don't fall vertically.
>>16931759that going to be a most impressive bag of holding
>>16931895No one cares about make believe projects. SpaceX is an actual launch provider and constellation operator. BO remains almost entirely aspirational.
>>16932131doing things will happen in real lifepretending to do things will be the domain of the fiction industry, which includes off shore contractors
>>16932243N
>>16932307it isn't explicitly mentioned here, but GPS-III SV10 was moved from Vulcan to Falcon 9, incurring just one month of delay to late April. This is the third time such a swap has been made for a GPS satellite.
>>16932592Morale has got to be so low at United Launch Alliance right now. Everything is getting swapped over to SpaceX lol
>>16932600>inb4 next Vulcan has yet another SRB observation
oh god I'm observing right nowI'm so fucking observed
>>16931429do you make bait posts like this because you don't have friends in real life that you can crack jokes with?
>>16931390>doesn't understand how thermodynamics workkek retard.
>>16932616The universe should stop moving towards a lower energy state, I don't like that it's doing that.
we must seek out and destroy the LRDs
what a bunch of goobers
>>16932633SpaceX could probably unironically have an emergency Falcon 9 ready within 24-hours if a customer needed it, perhaps even 12-hours or less, even.Meanwhile where the fuck is Vulcan
Russian internet is under a chokehold now; how are our friends at rus/sfg/ doing?
>>16932390I simply intuited these exact figures months ago. Science is only now catching up to my gut feeling.
new munley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTh1Davsj8
>>16931513elaborate, please
>>16932692nta but Boom is a fucking fuckheap of fuck
>>16932689looks like that thing in the Harry Potter movies
>>16932704you know.....the thing
My based son Saxon only orders milk when we eat out at sushi restaurants btw!
>>16932727behold, the last post on /sfg/
>>16932689It's gonna crash into the ocean
That time butch and suni went up on a deathtrap Shitliner and lost three degrees of freedom and had to return on a Dragon
>>16932757So now that the dust as settled, this was even more risky than an unsafe Shuttle launch, right?
>>16932621you can ask it politely to stop, but it's kind of rude so i don't think you're going to get a reply.
>>16932761Life itself is the polite way of asking it to stop, I suppose
The universe can go fuck itself>waaah waaaah you can't go faster than Cstupid retard, fucking try me bitch I'll rape you
>>16932637according to my friends on steam, fucking miserable, one's desperately hoping he doesn't fluke out of college so he doesn't get sent to the front, i offered to give him at least enough so he could get the fuck out of the country, but he declined saying he doesn't want help.i tried guys.
>>16932762Oh also fun fact, the very fact that crystals/minerals tend to grow is a natural expression of entropy trying to fight an uphill battle and decrease entropy locally, at the expense of increasing the overall entropy elsewhere. Funny how that works
>>16932765
I have a cold :(How can spaceflight save me
>>16932769Or alternatively:"I support the IDF and the right to rape and the Shavit rocket"
>>16932765who cares about muh universe and its 'laws'. mankind will eventually become gods/omnipotent and they will do as they please. the indomitable human spirit, yadda yadda, etc etc.
>>16932765Even if that limit didn't exist, it's still not easy enough to get close.
>>16932776just use antimatter propulsion
>>16932771send you into the sun, then you won't be cold anymore.
>>16932772more like shavit up her ass amirite hehehehe.
>>16932782Not good enough.
should I watch project hair Mary or no
>>16932775>canadaWe are 20 years behind the US in government funding these grifters
>>16932788Most people are saying it's good.
>>16932788People are saying it's not as cringe as The Martian
>>16932773>mankind will eventually become godsYes, but not in the way you think.
>>16932802In what situation would a dinky little fire extinguisher be of any practical use?
>>16932808vodka-related fires
>>16932808Dinky little fires
>>16932808that's why they have 3, duh
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2035506574182199757
>>16932820>comfy elon presentation on a saturday night with my sfg frensnice, we better get the bingo cards and puzzles started.
>>16932820>SpaceX and Teslahmm, do you think they'll throw in a sneak peak of the new roadster, mayhaps?
>>16932822anon that already came out in 2020, why else would it called '2020 roadster'.
>>16932820Roughly 45 minutes from now. Although, knowing Elon, he's gonna be late as always.
>>16932822doubt it, some kind of demo of the new version might come next month, though I'm not holding my breathits pretty low priority
>>16932821
>>16932830what is this milk meme? I haven't been on twitter for 6 years btw
>>16932821what else should be added
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYIy-62KgI>What's Next for Booster 19? (Headphone Warning) | SpaceX Starbase
>>16932820>elon finishes up his speech and ends the presentation, about to leave the stage>suddenly turns around and says 'oh, and one more thing'>giant spacex/tesla lunar rover shows up out of nowhere, isaacman gets out of it and greets everyonejust imagine
>>16932833He's been talking a lot recently about "the first true von Neumann self-relpicating slop / Optimus"
>>16932837sounds like a lot of talk
>>16932835holy gay ass muskovite fanfic, gb2r
>>16932833machine that makes the machineremoving regulations 'free fusion generator in space (sun)' when shilling solarOptimus being in every home"universal high-income"
>>16932833using the word "confident" when talking timelines
6 slots left open
>>16932841LOL
>>16932820Wonder what the time line is? 100GW/y by 2030? or 1TW/y by 2030?
>>16932842woke mind virus
Starliner just died. Good, I'm glad it's dead. It can no longer hurt innocent people!
Big 'splosion over NW Houston, yet another big ass meteor. WHAT IS HAPPENING BROS
>>16932842grok roasting people epic style
>>16932842Verbatim says the word "based" out loud
>>16932833>a reason to wake up in the morning, imagine if planes were expendable, thanks to the spacex/tesla team, the future is gonna be great, kardashev scale, lunar mass driver, 420 / 69, base on the moon and city on mars, civilization threat, the sun is an enormous free nuclear reactor, hourly starship launches, 1 million tons to orbit, 100 gigawatts a year, largest footprint, starship lifting 99% of world's upmass, later this year, etc
livestream soonhttps://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yKAPMzlvgWxb
>>16932858The stutter being the free space is making me lol so hard hahah
how fat will he look
>>16932861Topkek
https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2035503074924490884>In case you were wondering, the green circle is where orbital data centers start to become profitable.
who's data is it a center for?
>>16932861Shut up, he doesn't have time for exercising.
>>16932863Musk's genius unironically lies in reading the market for profitable markets that are just 10ish years ahead of time and brute forcing the market with a good pool of investors and getting ahead of the curve and then raping everyone before they can catch up. He's been on the ball since the dot com boom. He did it with Falcon, he is doing it here
>>16932865he's posted multiple photos of himself lifting dumbbells. being fat is a choice.
>>16932840>free fusion generator in spaceReferring, of course, not to the Sun but to the engine of the ancient alien starship that is drifting derelict in the asteroid belt.
>pushed back 5 minutesIT'S OVER
someone make a fucking puzzle
clear stream?thunderf00t stream?
>>1693286930 minutes like usual
>>16932870I'm new to this https://jiggie.fun/vVQBuW
>>16932820>>16932858starting
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2035519125284380672
>>16932875>galactic civilizationwell, that's new
>>16932875>>16932876HOLY CRAP MUSKBROS WE ARE GOING INTERGALACTIC
>>16932863>somehow reaching like $20/kg by 2027damn is this happening in the timeline where starship launched 25 times in 2025?
“TERAFAB” is a shitty name on the order of something Bozos would come up with
>>16932875>the next step towards becoming a galactic civilizationNigga we have barely left LEO and you’ve already walked back Mars ambitions
imagine the spacex stock chart during presentations like this...
>>16932879GigafactoryTerafactoryTerafabStarbaseStarshipFalcon9
>>16932873we need more anons
Late ass start should go on future bingos
>>16932883turns out esefgee was just 3 people
>>16932885no wonder why the cord died
>>16932883its too late for that
>>16932886trannyware
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2035526376468394305>SpaceXAI + Tesla TERAFAB Project >Goal is a trillion watts of compute/year>Most must necessarily go to space, as US electricity is only 0.5TW
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2035524926023553453
Starting
THE LIGHT OF CONSCIOUSNESS LMAOOO
ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's one already
light of consciousness mentioned
we are LIVE
Intro video goes hard
why does the powerplant have RGB?
what's up with the epic music lmao
>epic>orders of magnitudeDamn he is speedrunning this shit
bazinga!
why doesn't he have a cyberbody anymore?
ahh, i forgot about 'out there among the stars'
Come on, Come on!! Get on with it. Show me the deets
He stutters a lot, anyone else watching at 2x speed?
HOLLLLY SSHIIIET MUSKBROS IS THIS SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS 2???
>>16932918its live man
>>16932918based time traveler
>>16932918>>16932921AI can actually remove stutters live with post processing in real time
bruh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale#Progression_through_the_types>Physicist and futurist Michio Kaku has suggested that, if humans increase their energy consumption at an average rate of 3 percent per year, they could reach Type I status in 100–200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in 100,000 to a million years.[
Lmao they're really trying to pad that resume.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2035530722773963237Intro video
Starship V4 will be much longer
>>16932929there's a reason why they merged with spacex
megawatt range AI compute sats lol
>>16932934my calculations were basing off of 100KW range, but that was too conservative for spacex
>y-yeah>*nods awkwardly*
>>16932936the AI sat mini here is 100kw>>16932931
this is such a retarded waste of money. AI compute is not needed if they make a proper brain simulation considering our brains only use 100 watts max and are far more intelligent than any of this
why are they applauding
>>16932940
>>16932939>no one needs electricity>just create synthetic oil and burn more lamps>no one needs cars>just breed more horses
Oh my god he's giving grok the laboratory to build its own better brain
>>16932940Yeah sure lmfao ok bro you're just gonna make a fab the size of belgium no biggie
>>16932945When tf is Optimus coming out? Weren't they supposed to have thousands built by the end of last year?
>>16932943energy is good but blowing up the economy with "compute" is not useful to us
>>16932948couple hundreds last year, thousands this year. they have a new optimus 3 coming out in april or somethin I think
why isnt there a discussion thread on reddit for this :|
>>16932953politics
>space is always sunnyso the AI satellites are not going to be in orbit?
>>16932953no one gaf
>hyperloop is back
>lunar mass driversexo
>>16932955Correct they will be in Philadelphia
>>16932848Meteor FOUND.https://x.com/CollinGrossWx/status/2035499801589026972https://x.com/BNONews/status/2035528502372389017
>>16932958its a mass driver
>>16932955terminator line sun synchronous orbit noobalternatively just orbit higher and you get occluded less and less.
>>16932959>>16932960https://youtu.be/8DUydTgyGQ0?si=80u_603lnieMX5Lr
>>16932965Was thinking Musk's first game at Rocket Science company
>>16932963>crown ring on the moonIs that even doable? Whats the km length needed?
>>16932964ok based idea
TITANCHADS WE ARE BACK
Its an insane plan for certain, so lets see how these are all going to be implemented.It will certainly create a new "skeptics" franchise that will capitalize on the gap between idea->reality.
I do appreciate his positive outlook on energy/material abundance and a star trek-like post scarcity future
>>16932968i ran the numbers earlier, its about the length of the trans-siberian railroad
back to the puzzle
no Q&A?
thats it? wheres the starship launch?
>>16932963>"wow elon, it looks like there will be billions of people living on the moon!">elon: "people?"
That's it? That's your based presentation?
it's over
>>16932975They're a waste of time. The audience has too many normies that always ask retarded questions. He'll do interviews later with people who don't ask too many stupid questions. If he feels like it.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2035534544795791850
>>16932438>Wait lol so now SLS’s only purpose is to put Orion in LEO?The 'Starship takes Orion with it' plan will not use SLS to put Orion in LEO.
>>16932970okay but would Starship really be the best spacecraft for going to saturn?I'd imagine we would have a dedicated orbit-to-orbit craft using an Orion drive or something that'll keep the trip length short
>>16932962Seriously wtf is going on lately lol
>>16932983>Orion drivenigga, thats not happening
Lots of people are furiously typing as we speak, I wonder how much FUD we are gonna see tomorrow
>>16932983>trip length shortkekSaturn is a one way journey, or a literal journey of a lifetime where by the time you get back, tens of years have gone by
i dont get it. he didnt talk much about terafab. what is it?
>>16932987not if you have enough delta-v>>16932985okay what about any conceptual high isp drive?my point is that you aren't gonna want to go on a Starship if it does a standard Hohmann transfer
>>16932988a fab that creates a terawatt of AI compute per year
>>16932939That's a hardware issue. Whole brain emulation would likewise take a fuckload of watts until better computing tech is invented.
>>16932939Inference is within an order of magnitude of this 100W with batching for the biggest models we train.
quick clip on Saturn trip: >>>/wsg/6113925intro clip: >>>/wsg/6113928
so the presentation was more useless hype meant to scam investors?
>>16932991how is he going to power that?
>>16932984Guess we're passing through a dense area the past few months, or just pure luck.
>>16932998They're building the fab and satellites. That is not a lie.If they will suceed is up in the air.
billion optimus
>>16932939If something that efficient existed now, it would be even more reason to use so much of it.
>>16933002Expert consensus is you will never be able to compete with TSMC and fabs are so super duper reddit hard and it cannot be done.
>bragged about having the best ai datacenter after he shut down the free teir and also rate limit the paying customerskek
>>16932997/sfg/chuds really think that adding 3 more rvacs somehow makes a crewed Saturn trip viable
>>16932951>big separate radiatorthis makes no sense to me. just spread out the chips all across the solar panel and radiate locally out the back face of the panel.I guess tradeoff is harder packing of the panel, trickier interconnects etc.
>>16933007The part not pictured
>>16932998Its getting worse each time. There's always some jeet who whistles and shouts when Elon says something ridiculous and unsubstantiated, and the rest of the crowd just reluctantly goes with it. Absolutely nothing of substance was said, just the same old bullshit with nothing to show for it.Does this include a leading edge semiconductor fab, presumably 2 nm or smaller, in Texas within the next few years? Don't make me laughHow do investors keep funding this bullshit. They have zero ability to pull this off, any of it.
>>16933010how much of this is privately funded? i thought he does these things to convince the government to keep subsidizing everything
>>16933011all of it. but private funding is just scammed fake dollars from pension funds and banks who make money by proximity to the printer so it's all fake and gay and funded by inflation.
>>16932998Exhibit A at Elon's trial for investor fraud.
EDS fags out
>>16933014Out where? Not to Mars that's for sure
>>16933011gov is already subsidizing hundreds of billons for chip fabs in the US
You can't just build a state of the art fab even doe Intel and SMIC have already done it too.
>>16933017building one in the united states is antisemitic so they wont do it
>>16932997'Cause I ain't stoppin' at Mars.Write this down: SATURN - Saturn bitches.That's where we're going. Ice Rings!Yeah, yeah!
>>16933014Why don't you believe the Ketamine addict when he says he's going to Saturn!
it's time to post the graph
>caffeine addict mocking ketamine addict?
>>16932981Sawyer the Tesla Pimp.Yeah, listen to him.
It's instead of showing you humans walking on Mars in 2026 like I promised, here's my PowerPoint of humans walking on Saturn in 2028!
Does anyone know what happened to the rocketpunk manifesto? I see it listed on project rho as a good resource, but the website doesn't load for me. is there an archive anywhere?
>>16933006the free tier isnt shut down? i literally just used it.
why is the dirt mound partially covered in some metal shielding? whats the logic here?
>>16933029can you make videos with it?
>>16933000Putting it on satellites that have solar panels on them
>>16933033separate
>>16933035isnt that illegal? how can he just slap on a solar panel?
>>16933033oh no you're right, grok imagine is no longer free>$30 a month for low quality video generationayy lmao
>>16933038pretty sure they are rank #1 on image gen now
>>16933031To stop it blowing away
>>16932761Bit of a jerk, this universe
>>16932873FINAL STRETCHHELP
goodnight sfggoodnight puzzle bros, post pic when finished
>>16933064
>>16933005both of those are true.15 years of planning + 5k active workers (half of which are maintenance) + ridiculous list of input resources, and that's just for the die, let alone the rest of the package and the board it needs to go on, and the supporting materials to make it work. all on a remote location with minimal or no staff? it effectively cannot be done, you would struggle to forge iron rods in a completely automated maintenance free way like that
>>16933008Why not have the radiating surface on the opposite side of the solar panels? It's literally in shade 100% of the time.
>>16932394I mean, just never leave Titan. Practically preferable >>16932981I have this guy blocked
>>16933005A david v golliath situation all over again? Each time Musk faced that challenge, everyone said its impossible, yet he did it. Not even god can perform more than one miracle and Musk has done it multiple times in his life. So is he the real god of the universe? And the god of the fairy tale is just a fiction?
>>16933090Elon promises self driving Tesla taxis available 10 years ago. Fails miserably.You can book a Waymo robot taxi right now. There's an app.
>>16933093Musk promised self driving cars, his self driving cars are already here. All you gotta do is pay 99/m if you buy the car. If you dont buy the car, you can book also Tesla robo taxi right now. There is an app.
>>16932962In Germany a meteroid also crashed into a house a few weeks ago.https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/meteorit-feuerball-komet-himmel-100.html
interesting how little traction this presentation got. /sfg/ might be carrying a significant chunk of the internet's discussion about it.
We are an galactic civilization already, Voyager 2 left the Solar System
>>16933093Where is the Tesla Semi, Elon? 2020 Roadster?
>>16933104With his automatic convoy feature to reduce drag. Remember that. And where are those Tesla solar power roof tiles? I looked at Home Depot and couldn't find them.
>>16933096Grok, is this Elon simp having a ketamine hallucination?Sure looks like it! Tesla, which operates a fleet of fewer than 40 cars in Austin that still often have human safety monitors, reported another crash in its latest report to federal regulators, bringing its total to 15 since launching service in June. Hint: not self driving if you still have a human safety mod.
>>16933101>interesting how little traction a stale meaningless investor bait presentation got
>>16932984meteorites always existed though
Progress launch coming up!
Unironically, what is the benefit of using sodium-vapor lamps?
>>16933172Not turning purple
>>16933172aurafarming
>>16933151perfect launch. Next: another Starlink launch in about half an hour.
>>16933172prob legacy stuffchanging everything can be cumbersome
>>16933077You don't make chips on the moon, they don't weigh anything.The plan is to make solar panels and buses and ship in chips.Or what do you mean by remote location and fully automated?
>>16933081Yeah maybe the solar panel gets too hot for the computer?In fact the solar panel already needs to be able to radiate 100% of the energy passively whenever the computer is not turned on which is a config that needs to be supported.
>>16933172Because of the turtles.https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/kennedy/kennedy-space-center-keeps-dark-skies-for-sea-turtle-nesting/
>>16933172keeps the comfy ratio up a bit>>16933184the turtles deserve the darker skies. people not so much
>>16933172Doesn't disrupt your sleepWe weren't meant to have bright daylight LED's everywhere
>>16933194who is sleeping in the launch tower??
>>16933195the rockets of course. ssshh
>>16931208>>16933184coming into this thread for the first time and finding out that you guys have beef with the the turtles is hilarious
>>16933203Don't forget beetles
>>16933208Space beetles
>>16933203Piss-reeking ocelots and Piped Plovers, too.God I could eat half a dozen of those fucking birds, easy.
>>16933210I fucking eat birds all the time
>>16933203Environmentalists are a scorn
>>16933203and seals
>>16933203>you guys have beef with the the turtlessounds like a chinese dish. i'd try it.
>>16933203Bringing some Mars conditions closer by eliminating all other life that gets in the way.
>>16933172looks kino i guess.
>>16933212
>>16933203it's spite-fueled meme posting because of shitty performative climate activists trying to hinder the starship project, we don't actually hate turtles.i actually know a lot about ecology, way more than those posers, which is why i have no problem with what spacex is doing in boca chica.
>>16933210birds are fake
>>16933241I like when Elon murders God's creatures for his new pretty pretty.Well, most don't and the rest if us get a vote too.
>>16933252that sure was one giant leap for frogkind
>>16933252When will it be launch day again, my dudes?
>launches once>leaves
>>16933252NASA has killed way more animals than Musk, yet the latter is the only one that always gets the blame. fuck the dolphins btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTCjx5DEPkE
oops>Nearly 140 million euros ($162 million) that European Space Agency member states allocated to a program to support launch vehicle development remains in limbo and could be lost.>At a March 19 briefing after an ESA Council meeting, agency officials said they were still working with member states to redirect funding for the European Launcher Challenge that had either been allocated to a now-defunct company or was not allocated in the first place.https://spacenews.com/some-european-launcher-challenge-funding-remains-in-limbo/
>>16933262maybe they can solve this with a new feasibility study
>>16933265a committee is looking into that idea
>>16931740>It won't be cheaper, but it could potentially be easier and faster than trying to get land needed with sufficient power in a reasonable amount of time.Y u no in some uninhabited island close to equator. You can make comms with some starlink like thing, adding some batteries to solar panels will be cheaper than launching everything into space and maintenance would be possible.
>>16933270yeah but how would that require starship launches?
>>16933270You have to find one of those with enough empty land for number of solar panels required. Depending on who owns the island there can be other problems to deal with, and there's probably a reason it wasn't being used for something already.
>>16931189Spectrum will launch tomorrow... in the dark.
it's a... propane-lox engine? what the fuck?has anyone else done that?
>>16933274Good riddance.
we need to smooth out the earth
>>16933284Is this Atlantis?
>>16933286yeah
>>16933286Used to be, yeah
>>16933286I didn't know the shuttle orbiter was that fat, wow
>>16933284but not your brain
*coughs**sniffles*bros go on without me... go on to.... mars..*dies*
>>16933292anon no, stay alive for one more day to watch the germans fail at rocketry
ethanol nitrous oxide rocket stored in a box of dry ice pre launch.
>>16933249too bad for you then, since he's not doing that at all.
>>16933293rfa is launching? or isaar
>>16933274fuck this gay earth, sayonara
>>16933296isar
>>16933298gay. we only like rfa in this house.someone post the nsf chad vs virgin edit.
>>16933300Is rfa championed? News to me
>>16933301i like them. taking way too long with their second launch though.probably running out of money and in big trouble.
Moons orbiting wandering exoplanets could be habitable—with one catchProvided they host thick, hydrogen-dominated atmospheres, moons orbiting free-floating exoplanets could retain much of the heat generated deep within their interiors by tidal forces. "Life ahh finds a way.'
>>16933304>wandering exoplanetsnearly impossible to detect and probably extremely rare
>>16932973Damn, Russia is big.
>5 months
>>16933305Extremely rare!Grok, is she right?Nah! It is estimated that there are trillions of rogue (wandering) planets in the Milky Way galaxy, potentially outnumbering stars by 20 to 1.
>>16933332>trillions>in the Milky Wayas i was saying
>>16933332>It is estimated that there are trillions of rogue (wandering) planets in the Milky Way galaxysource?
>>16933304no need for an exoplanetJupiter is so far away from the sun it doesn't make much, and europa could harbor life.According to some models it's possible that even Pluto (of all things) could have an internal ocean of liquid water.
Why not detonate a huge nukes in the Oort cloud to to detect Planet 9 and rogue planets?
>>16933333how come this general is like 90% of /sci/'s traffic, yet we almost never get quads/quints/etc. lol
>>16933336it came to grok in a reddit post
>>16933339>90% of /sci/'s trafficNot anymore. ts general is dead as a doornail.
>>16933340grock chungus kekius maximus my fren
what do you think about /STG/?
>>16933343Niggersplit Seethekino
>>16933341>esefgee est mortYou know, I would usually disagree with that statement, but seeing how 'little' reaction the TERAFAB presentation got... I just don't know anymore. Stuff like that would have gotten hundreds of replies years ago. For fuck's sake, SpaceX just showed us their plans for a damn mass driver on the Moon, and after the stream ended this general got like 50 replies or so. Even the 3 spacex subreddits are still somewhat empty, and there weren't any Youtube streams with live comments. This is unironically sad, I guess we are going through some dark days in the spacex/musk online community or something. My hopium is that musk didn't hype the presentation enough to reach that many people, and that it took place way too late.. Also, live streaming only on X doesn't help, either.
>>16933341What months of no Starship launches does to a community.
>>16933350remember that time elon lied about the buoys they use, saying they were cheap children's toys or something but in reality they were profession open-ocean scientific buoys
>>16933349i think people are taking these announcements with a grain of salt now because it's a bunch of more ambitious statements when they need to get starship working first.that's what matters, nothing else will work until it's up and running, so that's what people actually care about, all the wishy washy future stuff just sounds like white noise to me.
>>16933349Moreover, we were only like 5 or so anons in the puzzle website lol, I was expecting more people.
>>16933349can't make a mass driver with 30-ton starship.
>>16933351he said they were kiddie pools with a motor cause that's exactly what they look like
>>16933352>>16933355This.Let's see a rapidly reusable working Starship then I will start caring about this other shit.
>>16933351I don't actually
>>16933353Link somehow escaped my eye at the time. >>16933349I think this one doesn't feel real to people because AI as we know it doesn't fit anyone's mental picture of a brighter or more exciting future. The pieces are there waiting to be combined to create that positive future, but nobody's talking about how they'll fit together because it's an extremely competitive industry and the problems to make it good and desirable are currently unsolved, so if people have ideas they absolutely are not talking about them. Optimus is a necessary part of making it work, but this one part of the product and solution space set that really does not feel like a real answer yet.
>>16933363>>16932873
>>16933355I know that we are nowhere close to actually building one. Musk himself stated that he hoped to still be alive to see one being constructed. Regardless, the fact that the largest and most important space organization in the planet officially announced such a thing (NASA and pockocmoc would never in a million years) is a big and historic event on itself.
>>16933366>announced>big and historic eventNOPE
anon, how would you feel if starship launched today?
>Uhhh now I can’t use Mars as a vision anymore>Uhh galactic civilizationReminds me a bit of Expanse.
WTF DOES ELON MUSK MEAN WITH TERROR FAP?????
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2035841398910722495
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2035842116950376948
Makes sense
>>16933380the bald manlet from troon talked about this in a recent video
>>16933378it happens cause you're a totally unlikeable faggot.people would give you credit if you weren't ultra obnoxious.
>>16933382its cope from seething retards
>>16933349Because it's mostly vaporware, what's there to discuss about.But it's true the mars colonization mythology attracted a lot of people in the past, I remember how angry and childishly aggressive they became when you tried to do a reality check.Talks about mass drivers and computing in space don't have the same power of attraction.
>>16933286yes, it was wiped out by meltwater pulse 1b
>>16933382you know, if you're getting this involved with people you dont know and will never meet, it might be time to get off the internet
>>16933382be sure to tell him that when you talk to him anon.
>>16933383>>16933392>>16933393this obvious truth seems to be quite controversial!
>>16933382nah, its cause you got castrated by propaganda
>>16933378So when does Starship start winning?
>>16933401two weeks
Tomorrow only German and Chinese rocket will launch.
>>16933405
>>16933397holy based
>>16933407can it do chibi starship? chibi clear?
https://x.com/Mookafish/status/203569189032710584130KM runway needed for 10G acceleration mass driver600 meter runway for 500G300 meter runway for 1000G (easily doable for electronics)30 meter for spinlaunch 10,000G acceleration
>>16933409
>>16933411>300 meter runway for 1000G (easily doable for electronics)sounds like ludicrous speed
>>16933415Even old, much more fragile vacuum tubes endured much worse when being fired out of a cannon.
>>16933416That background sky is horrible and you should be ashamed of yourself for using it.
>>16933418you asked if it was possible to chibify a starship with grokyes its possible
>>16933417it just sounds so much
>>16933421do they know how close the ocean is to their nice launchpad?
>>16933421>you askedNegative. Different Anon.
>>16933126>With his automatic convoy feature to reduce drag.
>>16933379>10x solar panels>10x radiatorsshrimple as
imagine a world where conestoga worked.
>>16933430We would be in paradise
WHO THE HELL ARE SOME OF THESE LITERALLY-WHO BIDDERS FOR COTSI think myself to be well versed in space knowledge but what? Thortek Laboratories? Andrews Space? wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcxIrnuyy4gcool video about kistler
>>16933436thortek.bizI don't think they're around anymore
what a shame. fully reusable rocket system, 75% complete in 2004
>>16933426
>>16932692Boom merely exploits a property of atmospheric layers by flying at barely over mach 1 in a way to prevent the sonic boom from reaching the groundthe X-59 is actually designed to significantly reduce the volume of the boom
i told my dad about the space datacenters and he said it wont work because hardware is always failing so how would a broken chip get replaced?
>>16933447the satellite itself gets replaced
>>16933447They'll just gradually eat chip losses over time and then at its end of life, they'll dump the thing in the atmosphere to disintegrate, and they'll replace it with a new one.
>>16933447it’s over, we’ve been deboonked
>>16933416reminds me of snate
>>16933300>>16933301They aren't as slick and corpo as Isar so they get points for scrappiness, but they're clearly struggling. Still I like them better for entirely irrational reasons.
>>16933446cool. thanks for explaining, anon. I had no idea of the difference.
>>16933459boom also has no engine (sad)
>>16933302They haven't launched yet at all. Blew up one of their first stages on the launch pad during a test though.They probably have funding for a few vehicles.
>>16933460they do!just one more F-5 engine trust!!
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terafabdoes this shit need a whole ass article? there are big name celebrities that dont have their own articles.
>>16933462>They probably have funding for a few vehiclesThey should, but the amount of time it's taking them to get back to the pad, let alone attempt a launch, is making me concerned.
I blame the sea peoples for starship's problems
>>16933476ayo leave my niggas out of this
>>16933474They have a first and second stage at the launch site. Word is that they might forgo the third stage for the maiden launch, since they don't need it without a payload.
one hour and 24 minutes ago
>>16933378Elon paying himself to laugh pay phone and punp his space AI stock grift. Not working. He's been caught lying too many times.
>>16933416the tower could be much cuter. It's got arms to hug you with!
>>16933511anons are now asleep dreaming of enceladus ;)
>>16933524that aint enceladussaturn should be massive in the skyF- See my after class.
Astronomers have uncovered surprising evidence of a thick atmosphere surrounding TOI-561 b, a scorching, fast-orbiting rocky planet once thought too extreme to hold onto any gas. Using NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope, researchers found the planet is far cooler than expected for a bare rock, hinting at a heat-distributing atmosphere above a churning magma ocean. This strange world—where a year lasts just over 10 hours and one side is locked in eternal daylight—may even be rich in volatile materials, behaving like a “wet lava ball.”So, slightly nicer than Phoenix Arizona in July.
>>16933534Phoenix is not suitable for human life and requires terraforming before people will be able to live there.
>>16933353That's about how many people do the launch puzzles, maybe a little less
it was a hard puzzle
Remember Breakthrough Starshot? With so much power in space from solar power satellites I guess it could make interstellar beam propulsion much more feasible.
>>16933547>Breakthrough Starshot?Dead, apparently.
its been dead for awhile afaik
>>16931825>muh aikys cretin
>>16931867Why would anyone want to slow down progress in AI? It's the perfect tool for turning everyone's brains to shit, which the NWO OWG definitely wants more than anything.
>>16933274imagine remembering you forgot to clear your browser history
>>16933274which probe was that? i used to know but cant remember.
Spectrum launch delayed again. NET 25 March. Let’s see if this thread will survive long enough.
>>16933597MESSENGER to Mercury(Better than Mars)They even made a song about the probe they made. Open here the MESSENGER Song to hear it.https://messenger.jhuapl.edu/Explore/Poetry-and-Music.html
>>16933611right yeah that sounds familiar. thanks
>>16931189have we reached mars already, fellow Elon-loving humans?
>>16933621Do you think they have already found oil, natural gas, gold or other minerals on Mars?
First there was the "Original 7." Later came the "Hairballs," the "Hogs" and the "Flying Escargot." More recently, there were the "Chumps," "8 Balls," "Turtles" and "Flies." Now, meet the "Platypi," the official nickname of NASA's 24th astronaut candidate class.Like a platypus, the 10 women and men selected in 2025 exhibit many different disparate skills and have "just about any tool to solve any problem," said the Flies that chose the name.Now, name NASA's 25th astronaut candidate class...
Guests visiting LEGOLAND California on Friday (March 6) lifted off into a brand new space-themed land, packed with nods to LEGO Space history.LEGO Galaxy features the Galacticoaster, two more space rides, a DUPLO play area and a LEGO rocket building bay, among other cosmic attractions. Throughout LEGO Galaxy are life-size versions of popular LEGO sets, ranging from the 1979 Space Buggy to the 2024 Interstellar Spaceship.Emergency Narcan kit dispensers courtesy of Elon Musk and SpaceX.
The U.S. Postal Service has two special pictorial postmarks ready for use during the upcoming Artemis II mission.The first flight to carry astronauts to fly by the moon in more than 50 years will be commemorated with cancellations at post offices in Cape Canaveral and Houston. The interchangeable date devices depict the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket and Orion capsule, as well as the moon and Artemis Mission Control.
Tim Hortons is set to temporarily rebrand its famous Timbits as "Moonbits" in celebration of Jeremy Hansen becoming the first Canadian to launch to the moon.The deep-fried donut balls will come in a limited edition commemorative box exclusively for sale at participating Tim Hortons restaurants in London, Ontario (Canada), Hansen's hometown. The collectible packaging will include information about the upcoming Artemis II flight.Comes with Spicy Maple Mango Chimney for dipping.
>>16933447Dead datacenter satellites get smelted down in orbital foundries and materials reprocessed for constructing spacecraft. Components that still work fine (solar panels) get directly salvaged.
>>16933645Singh Hortons is a fucking traitorous sellout company and has been for over a decade
>>16933634>>16933640>>16933630>>16933645wtf is this shit
>>16933656Probably testing an llm
Oh, we missed an Elon lie:One of Elon's new chips will be designed primarily for Optimus and Tesla's vehicles, which are being built and trained to be fully autonomous. Musk said the chip will "especially" be for Optimus because he expects the volume of units to be 10 to 100 times more than the volume of cars.So that's -- a billion android tier robots, a terra watt of space solar power, 10 thousand Starships and a few hundred thousand space AI sats. Every year.This is your brain on Ketamine.
>>169336671-10 billion Optimi per year, not 1 bil
https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/2036097323458343361
>>16933681Yes yes, but it misses the most important point. How will it make money? Burning SpaceX money is not hard.
>>16933667Why doesn't he just make infinity chips?
>>16933681>XAI will win>long LLM generated post
>>16933656Content?
Russia resumes use of space launch site damaged in accidentRussia has launched a rocket from Site 31 of the Baikonur Cosmodrome for the first time since it was damaged during a liftoff last November
>>16933681https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2036111635807650065
>>16933701Aaron Burnett (@aaronburnett) - Posts - Founder, CEO @ Mach33 | Research and Investment in Space & Expansion TechnologiesOh, a SpaceX IPO pimp is boosting the SpaceX IPO? Welp, that's unexpected.
>>16933707i should start calling myself a founder and ceo since i do the same things as that guy and more, except i dont tweet about it
why would someone use bots on such an innocent general as esefgee is beyond me
>>16933712> is beyond mewell yeah, bots can't actually think
>>16933701the attention switching whiplash section of the essay
>>16933731
>>16933745Imagine Elon screaming furiously at you while headbutting cars. I would unironically cry on the spot.
>>16933758if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen
>>16933682with AI products
G
>>16933760who the fuck set the kitchen on fire and where is the extinguisher!?
>>16933763great, it now only needs an 's' and an 'f'.
>>16933762>>16933682
>>16933767what does it even mean
for some reason I find clear cute now
>>16933768one very clear example is creating a competitor to Anthropics Claude Code, i.e. a coding helper tool, Musk has said they want to have the best AI coding agent by mid 2026for some context, Anthropics current annualized revenue run rate is about 19bilhttps://x.com/cb_doge/status/2031898932348141780
>>16933775Code! New shiny! Pretty pretty!This easily distracted drug sponge is America's most powerful man.
>>16933775once Starship is up and running, and his AI slop side hustle goes well, I wonder what new thing he's gonna get into. I really want him to start either a nuclear energy company or something related to genetics. imagine solving the problem of aging, or at the very least looking young till death.
>>16933763traditionally we start with the N but beginning with one of the Gs is ok too
>>16933763Groad to Mars?Road GTO Mars?Road to Gars?
>>16933770still never seen a picture. doubt i ever will
It's GAAN
i-it's gonna be 'gateway to mars', right guys? i swear to god if it ends up being 'grok' I'm going to scream...
>>16933763_,_,G,_,_,_
>Sir, a second G has hit the sign
>>16933700They repaired the site using spare parts made decades ago.
>>16933798Like SLS but a launchsite
>inb4 it's Ganymede
>>16933763(G)HB
>>16933785Elon will make us immortal too!
https://x.com/Amazonleo/status/2036136683821842748
>>16933820Grok, what's the near term plan?Amazon Leo has initiated testing and intends to launch its enterprise beta, with requirements to have over 1,600 satellites in orbit by mid-2026 to meet FCC compliance.Uhhh.... Did Jeff get an extension yet?
>>16933820competition is good.
NASA conference tomorrow at 9 am E.T about what's going to happen after Artemis V, also more information about other programs.
>>16933763'GROID
>>16933868Cancel SLS oh my sweet Lord please please
Musk proposed that in the future he will unlock the ability to create petawatts of AI compute — 1,000 times more than a single terawatt. The CEO also envisioned free trips to Saturn in a post-scarcity economy where everything is free.Free trips to Saturn. And Muskrats cry when you call him a fraud.
Manned landing of Pluto.
>>16933898Robotic earth rover
>>16932765fuck traveling conventionally from point a to b just fold space in front of you and come out the other side while it unfolds behind you
*folds piece of paper and pokes a pencil through it*
Eric BergerNASA will share a ton of Artemis planning information tomorrow at HQ. I’ve highlighted Garcia-Galan because he was deputy program manager for Gateway prior to this.Comments say looks like the pivot to Moonbase is real. Using what *shrugs*
>>16933903its just that easy in blackholewarpery
>>16933905
It's over>A high-stakes regulatory battle over the future of satellite broadband intensified this week as SpaceX and incumbent geostationary (GSO) operators, including SES and Viasat, traded sharp filings at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). >The dispute centers on whether to modernize decades-old Equivalent Power Flux Density (EPFD) limits—international standards designed to prevent Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites from interfering with legacy GSO networks.>On January 9, 2026, the FCC granted SpaceX a “time-limited waiver” to exceed these limits for its Starlink Gen2 constellation within the United States. While this was a major victory for SpaceX, the waiver is contingent on the outcome of a formal FCC rulemaking process initiated in April 2025. Incumbents like SES have proposed a “periodic implementation process” as a compromise, which would involve regular check-ins and data-driven adjustments rather than a complete dismantling of the EPFD rules.>The primary risk in 2026 remains the “kill switch” clause in SpaceX’s current waiver, which requires the company to cease operations immediately if harmful interference is proven. Analysts expect competitors to weaponize this clause, using high-resolution spectrum analyzers to log even millisecond-long noise spikes in an attempt to trigger a regulatory shutdown of the Gen2 network.https://satnews.com/2026/03/22/spacex-and-gso-giants-clash-over-fcc-spectrum-sharing-rules-and-power-limits/
>>16933915>SESEuropean company
>>16933268committee here, the study was inconclusive and will need further investment
>>16933785honestly, if he can bring reliable mass chip manufacturing back to the US, he won't need any other pies. He'll just take over the market from AMD, Intel, NVidia, and TMC. Multi-trillionaire guaranteed.
>>16933609just went full spectrum hearing that news
>>16933903in english doc
>>16933895>petawatts of AI computewhat an awful metric, emphasizing the energy wasted in current technology. We really need it expressed in some AI-equivalent of giga-FLOPS, with the expectation that as tech advances that performance will become cheaper and cheaper, less and less energy required.
>>16933934>You can't just tesseract into Mordor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uExSR0m_a04
>>16933950>investor fidelityInFidelity
>>16933911WE GAAN
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2036160839191834848https://x.com/amazonnews/status/2036151480277705139
>>16933957
>>16933924let's send it up to the funding feasibility office.
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2036144418852323409
>>16933961IGNITION
>>16933961Oh my God were landing Hubble on the Moon
>>16933966think of the close up shots
>>16933911AEIOU
>>16933961chances of him being on the mission to restore hubble?
>>16933975Slim to none, I think even if he wants to do it (he most definitely does) he would be humble enough not to slot himself, especially as Administrator
>>16933957no chinese? no russian? eastoidcucks...
>>16933978>no chinese? no russian?on that note, this has been a very ambiguous day for rocket launches. There MIGHT have been a Chinese launch abort or failure, but nothing has been announced. And there MIGHT have been a Russian Soyuz launch of Rassvet-3 from Plesetsk that has been purposefully kept quiet to prevent drone interference from Ukraine. There have been some nice jellyfish photos posted, but again no official announcement.
>>16933977Wasn't the proposition that the mission would be privately funded? If he pays for it he gets to fly.
>>16933983The russian launch reportedly deployed a satellite that was detected by russian radio amateurs, but all official channels are silent.https://r4uab.ru/2026/03/23/zapushhennyj-segodnya-23-marta-2026-goda-s-kosmodroma-pleseczk-mka-obzp1-vyshel-na-svyaz/But no informationAs for the chinese launch, we don't even have an idea which launcher it could be.
gateway is dead.t. nasa
>>16933993good
>>16933993mash'Allah!
The program will open with remarks from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, followed by a series of high-level panels. Participants include:Administrator Jared IsaacmanAssociate Administrator Amit KshatriyaDana Weigel, program manager, International Space Station ProgramCarlos Garcia-Galan, program executive, Moon Base Steve Sinacore, program executive, Fission Surface Power Dr. Nicola Fox, associate administrator, Science Mission Directorate Dr. Lori Glaze, program manager, Moon to Mars Program
I'm excited about the monthly cadence details. Who, what, where and how.
>>16933911aeiou is eternal
>>16934001>Associate Administrator Amit KshatriyaREDEEM THE NASA SAAR
>>16933961Reject what stands in the way of extraordinary outcomes
>>16934001I'm so sick of the nuclear mene
>Steve Sinacore, program executive, Fission Surface Poweryes.. ha ha ha... YESs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDX7ljzBF8
>>16934019not again
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2036247130755469608>Possible launch of Soyuz rocket with Rassvet satellites at about 1800 UTC Mar 23. Russia has, unusually, made no announcement but there are observations downrange of rocket plume and claimed signals from a payload. Situation currently uncertain, no Space Force orbit data yet.
>>16934036Cool
>>16934036>favela but snowI don't know where I'd rather live
>>16934036how the fuck does one not get frozen in a building like that?
>>16934043vodka
>>16933793Of course, Elon has been trying real hard to pretend he still totally cares about Mars, guys and that the timeline hasn't changed recently (just look at the usual suspects trying hard to explain away a five year maybe, seven year definitely) delay so it'd make sense to bring it back.
>>16933793Gateway is now LEO interim ISS replacement or some shit
they're getting the spare Skylab out of the Smithsonian and launching it on starship
>>16933961Please don't restore Hubble.I know its cool, but nothing screams 40 years ago louder than the Hubble Space Telescope. NASA desperately needs to shake the image of living permanently in the past. This generation is clearly NOT inspired by NASA's bullshit tricks anymore. Boomers from the 60s using slide rules accomplished more in space than every generation that followed, and its fucking embarrassing.Can't we PLEASE move on, into the future NASA? Just let it die already. If astronomy is of interest to you, launch a fully modern optical telescope of at least 8 meters, otherwise fuck off.
>>16933349>>16933350It's nothing to do with what's been going on in /sfg/ related stuff. The issue is entirely from 4chan. /sci/ is down to 1/3rd its post rate compared to just two years ago. The site as a whole is down to almost half. Lots of people just stopped posting or left altogether because of all the shit.
>>16934094I worry for civilization collapse in 4 years
>>16934092those places are hoarding gravity
Isaacman tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UPzD-iy300
>>16933775At least he fixed grok imagine so it's based now. chibi robo!
>>16933785Uh how about a Mars settlement
Starbase got cursed when Trump visited it.
Berger got it right a year and a half ago.https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/heres-how-to-revive-nasas-artemis-moon-program-with-three-simple-tricks/
Eric Berger is a freemason.
>>16934165jared just copied his homework
>>16933787GAAN
death to gateway
>>16933763N
Can we just start launching rockets and shit again?We used to be a country, you know
>>16934165NBABNEVERBETAGAINSTBERGER
38 MINUTES UNTIL NASA MOON ANNOUNCEMENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlTwwJv1Ac
>>16934216i've been so busy that i forgot
I bet they'll take USDV and work it into a long-duration dragon for moon purposes
I guess repairing the Hubble telescope could make sense if the objective is to get experience and data about in space repair and testing new tools. A new space telescope would cost much more than such a mission and space is huge, you can’t look everywhere in such a resolution of Hubble, so it is still relevant.
NASA unironically announced a new Moon to Mars plan like every two months lol
>>16934223they're continually refining the plan, making it more plausible with each refinement
>>16934225more plausible != plausibleno matter how great of a plan it is, they don't have the resources to do it>b-buh just cancel SLSand the billions will just fade into the void. Budgets aren't a wallet you can take and put money into at will.
>>16934226Billions into the void now is better than billions and billions and billions in the future for, what is at this point, just a “get Orion to LEO” rocket that has insane launch costs and ground infrastructure costs
>>16934216Get in here.
>>16934216its live
This NASA logo animation makes me feel like I lost the connection.
>>16934226deleting SLS even if it means the budget evaporates is goodthe vested interests in it keep blocking actually non-retarded missions
Lol they showed hype footage of EFT-1, laaaaame
introvideo
>The Trump administration
Did his ears get bigger?
>>16934237the last administration didn't do shit, so yesTrump cutting bureucracy and deregulating enables this and many other things
>>16934239Liquid fluorine rockets are back on the menu.
Is he not allowed to say “China,” why the tip-toe around it? Oh we just have a vague “geopolitical competitor”?
>>16934246Kelly eww
S P A C E S U P E R I O R I T Y
PAUSING GATEWAY
Pausing Gateway> Pausing GatewayPausing Gateway> Pausing GatewayPausing Gateway> Pausing Gateway
GATEWAY IS DEAD>GATEWAY IS DEADGATEWAY IS DEAD>GATEWAY IS DEADGATEWAY IS DEAD>GATEWAY IS DEAD
SR1-Freedom, Skyfall copter drop mission. Damn
>>16934252>there could be old space lobbyists here
WHERE ARE THE POWER POINT SLIDEs??? I AM A VISUAL LEARNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>16934255>I AM A VISUAL LEARNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2036428252693078055
>NASA once changed everything.>And we'll do it again.KINOOOOOO
That sounds too good to be true.
That’s it? That’s your based mission architecture?
so its true, just as that guy from r/nasa said. the manned moon base is comprised of two parts>a large vehicle>a habitable trailer that is towed by the vehicleRVs on the moon
>>16934262uhm we'll iterate it chud
>>16934264Nice so they’ll just put the shitcan windowless HALO module on the lunar surface. Very inspiring
I wonder how long the argued how to make the constellation of astronauts.>Captain needs to be first>Uhh the wemen shouldn’t be last that's misogynistic>Uh the black shouldn’t be last that's racist>Uhmmm the Canadian shouldn’t be last, that's maplephobic
>>16934262this is more like a change of direction instead of a full mission architecture, those will probably come later
It continues btw. A FEMALE IS TALKING, LISTEN AND
>>16934268kek
>"My colleagues and I are...trying to understand whether [orbital data centers are] an existential problem."https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/03/orbital-data-centers-part-1-theres-no-way-this-is-economically-viable-right/
>>16934267no its something separate that italy and thales have been building since last year
>>16934273Grok?Right. It's yet another Elon scam.
If I could have the next slide please
>>16934259grok summary and even shorter tl:dr below>TL;DR of the NASA memo: NASA just hit "Ignition" — a major reset under Administrator Jared Isaacman.>Moon first: Artemis II flies in ~1 week. Artemis III next year. Crewed landings by 2028. Ditch slow Gateway; build a real phased lunar base instead (start small, add power/rovers/habitats, go near-permanent). Copy Apollo’s fast iteration.>LEO: Keep strong presence, hand off ISS to commercial, spark a real orbital economy.>Big new pushes: Nuclear propulsion (SR-1 Freedom demo), more science missions, cut bureaucracy.>Culture: Less talk, more doing. Convert contractor jobs to NASA civil servants, hire tons of young talent, reward speed and ownership.>Bottom line: Move fast, partner with industry (but hold them accountable), and deliver results now — Moon landings, sustained presence, and prep for Mars. The golden age of U.S. space exploration starts today.
SLS booster is shaking the power point presentation.
One week? They’re forgetting about the leaks that will pop up!
THREE HUMANS ONE CANADIAN
>>16934279>fuck it, we'll launch it live
>>16934280kek
>>16934264Florida Man design at its finest.
Okay yeah calling it the Department of War is cringe
Brah they’re not even confident in this fuckass Sharty3 LEO 2027 launch date, and Jared’s talking about some “landing on the Moon before 2030”Yeah right……
>>16934286Landing on the Moon before the end of the Trump administration he said.
>We’re hardware rich for the next mission!Yeah I would hope so, this shit is a decade late
more specific info coming from many sources during the next few days I guess
>Hopefully in April
>>16934288Which is start of 2029.
>>16934288NOT happening
its over
>>16934290Operation Ball Tickling
>targeting landings every 6 months initially
>we hope we can get one or both of the landers, we we don’t know >we REALLY hope we can include the new suits, tooYeah this new “golden age” is starting out confident I see
>starship sexshut the stream down!
>>16934305>you can copy my homework just change it up a little.
*yawn* there's nothing new in her presentation
>>16934306Hahah
ONE WEEK
>>16934302Moonship doesn't even have a photo of the mockup. It's over.
>>16934312V4 fixes this trust the plan
>>16934307Did she show any skin at least?
See you fellas next year when the plan changes again
>a successful uncrewed landing before allowing astronauts on boardit's fucking over for spacex
>>16934317This was always the plan, she isn’t saying anything new
>>16934316*next week
Imagine the meltdown of Elon when Blue Origins HLS will be choosed.
>choosed
Asking SX and BO how to simplify the Artemis architecture to support landings every 6 months? Kek they probably both told NASA to kill SLS
>>16934321lol its not a big deal
s-see! we're doing space stuff! stop bullying us!t. europoor
weird warping in these slides
>april 1st launchgod I hope it scrubs
>>16934319HLS chugging on sched. Blue has landers at test and mockups and subsystems for Blue Moon Chibi or whatever they're using next year. SpaceX has -- PowerPoint slides drawn by AI.
>>16934326>precoping alreadyEmbarrassing.
>>16934328I think they’re running on an old composite input or something
>>16934330for mk1
I just realized, this isn't a space race between USA and China. It's a space race between BO and SpaceX.
So basically nothing is ready except for an SLS-and-a-half. And they want everything done within the next 2 years. Great, sounds easy enough
>>16934331I don't think Musk would really care that much, its not mission critical to be first here like it would be in some other instances (like getting the starlink constellation up quickly)
Somehow people believe Isaac is some wizard who will make spaceflight great again. You will have an rude awakening, just like MAGA people with Trump.
>>16934334Yes that’s been the case for a while. Jared said if BO is ready before SX then they will get the contract. Elon seethed and replied to David Willis aka the SLSfag on twitter and said HLS Moonship will be ready, just like tesla roadster and hyperloop would be ready
>>16934335nothing is 100% ready, but SpaceX and BO are not at 0% progress
>>16934337I believe it’s his job to at least kiss ass and inspire change, better to promise 2 years and deliver 5 than sit on the current plan and wait for everything to delay in slow motion and pan out over 7 to 10 years
>>16934339What % would you say they’re at?v3 is at like 2% lmfao
Centaur V
>>16934335Blue can do it in two. Either with the proper lander or the hack. One is very aggressive. Maybe if they move the date out to later in 27.SpaceX doesn't have a chance.
>>16934342V3 is at like 90-95%HLS, who knows but unlike you said previously they have showed mockups and tested the systems on them as well, its not just powerpoints
>>16934336elon wouldn't care because he basically dropped spaceflight. No amount of sugarcoping changes that.That being said, spacex coming in second might be a good thing. Maybe it would revive their talent and ambition that has been steadily bleeding over the years?>>16934337Jared already did good by raping SLS. Just for that he changed timelines to a slightly less shit one.>>16934345if they kept up the rate of advancement like back in 2024, spacex would have this in the bag. As it stand now, yeah I'd have to agree.
>>16934344where are you getting this confidence? BO has two launches under their belt, one landingbasically not much else
>>16934336Musk doesn't care because he's full of drugs and distracted by new shiny pretty. He could gaf about fulfilling his promises and contracts.
>2 breaks alreadyIs this the work ethic they envision for NASA?
>>16934344Isn’t their plan to land Mk1 this year, and fast-track some sort of boondoggled scaled up Mk1.5?No way they go from Mk1 to their actual HLS SLD proposal in two years bro
>>16934264>tfw you will never go skeet shooting out the window of your space trailerWhy even live?
whats with this civ4 music
>>16934344>Blue can [have their lander ready] in two Lmfao good one
>>16934353NASA still lives in the Space Shuttle era.
>>16934348see >>16933731its not distraction, its priorization on things that have blockershe isn't focusing on Starship V3 now because its probably going forward fine without blockers he could accelerate
>>16934345V3 is at like 90-95%!You are just so adorable!
They have European partners in attendance so they have to take a break every ten minutes lol
The female said go back to your seats, it’s about to continue.
> SpaceX and BO: can we please avoid NRHO
>>16934347And how many Starships reached orbit? Yeah zero.
>>16934357I don't expect many RUDs anymore with the more extensive ground testing for V3s
>>16933731is this satire?>this is pretty damn good>the timeline is completely incorrect and already has missed deadlines
This is how they should go back to the Moon:>Artemis 2 lands on the Moon with Orion with a bunch of food>Elon Musk has 1 year to bring them back or else he will get executed
>>16934362seething, lollmao even
>>16934363then you're naive and your opinion is irrelevant.
>>16934350Haven't seen anything public on the possible hack. One path was mk1 plus mk2 hack, the other was accelerating a stripped down Blue Moon. Haven't seen any details on the options, unless NSF found something.
Take your seat please, it will start soon.
>>16934366>muskrat try not to project challengestarship is a failure as of this moment. You cannot disprove this. You can only have melties every time I point it out.
Please take your seats
europeans need a longer coffee break, please understand. 30 minutes is not long enough.
WHO THE FUCK HASNT TAKEN THEIR SEAT YET??
>>16934364reading comprehension retardthat is not the timeline of the things happening, its about what Musk has prioritized during certain time periodsif there are no big blockers anymore and the programme keeps going, Musk shifts focus to the next thing and lets his employees deal with the day to dayhe focuses on critical blocking problems ergo if he isn't focusing on Starship right now then you can assume there are no current blockers on it or not much he can do to speed things upyelling at the welders on pad 2 won't make things speed up appreciably
The German delegation is asking to where they are supposed to take their seats?
mELtdOwNELONHAHAHHAHA HAHHahahahahah AHHAHAHAHAH ahhahahahahaha
>>16934356Sure. Have you got your free ticket for your Saturn vacation yet? Elon said he just needed a few tweaks to AI to make that happen.
>>16934378he didn't say that, its a very long term aspirational goal and you know that
How is Gateway “relevant to long term exploration goals” exactly
>>16934375>2020-2025 Starship: Full-stack rapid iteration for Mars>2026: starship still floundering, has NO hardware for Marsso what you're saying is Elon failed? Why did the starship program stagnate so much in 2025 if he had 70% of his attention on it?
>He is scrolling on his phone
>>16934242FOOF/cubane/hydrogen triprop for the win
>gatewayI sleep. It will get canceled this year anyway
>bro just transport yourself to the future and to the lunar future>it's that easy in moonbaselandery
gateway team pivoting to surface base
that moon base looks like a joke. where is the realistic plan?
>>16934380When Elon promised free trips to Saturn that doesn't count because -- it just doesn't okay!
>>16934390Iterating. Please be patient.
Jared’s phone is blowing up rn
>>16934382no, again the pivot means the problems are mostly fixed nowif they weren't, Musk would still be focused on them
what's the size of the continent in africa?
NASA MISSION TO AFRICA
>>16934394I see, I understand it now.ngl it still seems like retroactive coping about how it's actually all going to plan bro trust elon
NASA announces new Imagination Transport Drive
>>16934397>Starts now
>>16934389And now, here they are! The most daredevil group of daffy drivers to ever whirl their wheels in the Wacky Races, competing for the title of the Moon's Wackiest Racer! The cars are approaching the starting line. First is the Ketamine Koupe, driven by Elon Musk. Next, Jeff Bezos in the Amazing Amazon.
>>16934398well its a theory from an investor in Musk companies but it does kind of make sense in the context of what Musk has said about focusing on the blockers always (he has said the same thing since his earliest interviews what I remember)
ASTRONAUTS ARE GONNA BIKE TO THE MOON CONFIRMED
>MoonFallHarvest Moon mentioned
21 landings in the next few years
>if they maybe do the hops and probably end up in the same place and possibly survive the lunar night and perchance have good antennas they can like do communications or somethingsounds like a great elevator pitch. Fund it.
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2036439137113330166
>>16934406Gerry, we're out of Plutonium for RTG and NASA ganked Kilopower. What's the plan?
>>16934414Beamed power constellation
Who cares about this presentation anyway? the next admin will kick jared out and fund more DEI shit. None of this is happening.
>>16934415Hop wen?
>>16934244China sounds like Vagina
damn that is a lot of shit
Just 11 more pictures
>>16934421blackpillers get the airlock
>>16934425>urge to post clear intensifies
moonbase time
>>16934426The Moon belongs to Blue.
why are they building cell towers on the surface if they are building internet satellites too?
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2036440136926302594
>>16934432hahaha
>>16934431for local control I guessif there are only 2 internet satellites then those are going to have limited bandwidth I would guessif you had a big constellation a la starlink mobile around the moon then sure I guess cell towers wouldn't be necessary
>>16934434>if you had a big constellation a la starlink mobileso why not do it? It's more versatile and easier to deploy than anything surface based.
>>16934431Constellation density limits signal availability. For local, just put up a tower. This is why you have WiFi repeaters in your building.
>>16934432burn wards at local hospitals overcrowded, emergency declared
>>16934436would probably be more expensive? would also mean SpaceX gets a lot of the contractswith CLPS they can spread the money around to smaller providers
This should have been the damn plan twenty-odd years ago with Constellation. Took long enough for these fools to articulate something sensible
>>16934435Makeout lights under the dash...
So they basically gave Boeing an ultimatum here that SLS is ending after Artemis V?
>>16934436oh and he mentioned cratersdeep craters would require a lot of satellites to have constant communicationwith a cell tower you just need one on the edge of the crater
if we get all this up (we wont), then we'll see tourists on the moon in the 2040s, maybe 2030s
>land on the moon>extract rare EARTH elementsyou can't make this shit up
watch as this mission gets cancelled in like 2028 or reduced to just launching another rover to look at rocks for a week.
>Moon Base: Phase 2>2029-2032
>30 billion for all thatI just don't believe it.
STAGING Image limit reached.>>16934452>>16934452>>16934452
>$3 billion a year for the next 10 yearsyeah that funding is getting yoinked soon
>>16934043I'm pretty sure these are storage/utility sheds
>>16934448sfag doesn't know of KREEP. Disappointing.
>>16934421this. NASA is completely irrelevant and powerless, so nobody should take what they say seriously. only SpaceX and maaybe Blue Origin are the only players that matter.
>>16934466BO and SpaceX will be contractors and do some of this shit
>>16934454>>16934458now fight
>>16934362>o-orbital velocity isn’t orbit chud!Lol.
>>16933682How could you make money by providing services, transporting goods and people or performing tasks?It really is a huge fucking mystery
>>16933903"You guys have been thinking about poking holes in paper all wrong!"
>>16934257kek, true
>>16934385Metallic hydrogen metallic oxygen alloy monoprop
>>16934397What the fuck is "semi-permanent", an A press is an A press, you can't say it's only half
>>16934524permanent habitats but not permanently manned I would guess
>>16934494here's your most retarded post in the thread awardcongrats
>>16934526uninhabited habitats become shabby and tatty. they become shabitats
>>16934454Dumb nigger that's not how it works
>>16934554Yes it is. Staging for image limits is nominal.
>>16934436Starlink for the Moon is probably a no-go because keeping the sats in orbit is a bitch.And they do not burn up when they come down (duh), they just hit the ground.Also, lunar coverage is not very important right now, all you need is a local net around the landing site/base
>>16934562needs something to keep far side comms constant
>>16934292>SpaceX : drawing and door test from 3 years ago>Blue Origin : lander that's mostly already doneDamn that's kinda sad actually. Looks like the turtle will be first after all
>>16934557No faggot it never was
>>16934554yes it is
>>16934579It absolutely is and has been, tourist. If we hit image limit or page 10, we stage. Image limit staging happens because Shit Is Going On and the image limit is going to inhibit discussion.
>>16934594Hahaha, you weren't even around for IFT-1 if you actually believe this shit, let alone the days of IAC 2016.
>>16934594kys retardyou don't belong herewhite people only
>>16934038That's just an old village house. Those buildings are older than the concept of favelas.
>>16934605Cope, russia is just snow favelas
>>16934608A bad khrushchevka is a better place to live than the best favela.
>>16934603>You just be 18 to post here
lol, ESL newfag keeps embarrassing himself
>>16934431Lower latency for in-base gaming.
>>16934566Manned relay station at EML2
Mars delenda est
>>16934436Why not launch thousands of internet satellites to the moon and operate them continuously at a billionth of their capacity in order to accomplish something that could be done with thousands of times less resources?That's what you're asking? You should be living in a group home.
>>16934442All they had to do was build a private space industry, totally change NASA's role in space exploration, cut out massive defense contractors and get congressional support for cutting pork barrel spending.Why didn't they do it in a day?!?
>>16935180why are you so mad lmao
>>16935194no u
LFGOOOOO