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Do you know how to calculate square roots by hand?
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>>16931343
I used to know how to do cube roots by hand, but it was retardedly convoluted.
Square roots are easy.
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>>16931343
no, will you teach me?
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>>16931343
I've just sort of memorized the most common ones at this point. I still have a print out guide in case my ass forgets how to do it by hand though.
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>>16931355
NTA, just look up something along the lines of "calculating square roots by hand pdf" and there should be some decent results.
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>>16931343
What exactly am I looking at here? I don't recognize all the commas next to some of the numbers.
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They say they have to keep teaching children long division even though it makes them cry because of polynomial long division, but completing the square is just finding the square root of a quadratic with remainder.
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I use the NR method. It's more reliable than doing that
>le magical convoluted long division that totally doesn't have completely arbitrary steps for any given calculation trust me bro, and it totally works brooo *takes a rip of a bong*
horseshit.

For reference I'm a group theorist.
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>>16931355
To find [math]\sqrt{x}[/math] where [math]10^{2n} \leq x < 10^{2n+2}[/math], you first find the largest [math]y \in \{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9\} \cdot 10^n[/math] such that [math]y^2 \leq x[/math]. Next you calculate [math]x - y^2[/math] and try to find a new estimate [math]y + z[/math] such that [math]x - (y+z)^2 \geq 0[/math]. The key is that [math]x - (y+z)^2 = (x - y^2) - (2y + z)z[/math], so you can pick the largest [math]z \in \{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9\} \cdot 10^{n-1}[/math] such that [math](2y + z)z \leq x - y^2[/math]. Then you subtract [math](2y + z)z[/math] from [math]x - y^2[/math] to get [math]x - (y+z)^2[/math], and so on.
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>>16931343
https://youtu.be/-J_xL4IGhJA?t=57m10s
https://youtu.be/csInNn6pfT4?t=6m30s
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[math]
\begin{align}
\sqrt{8720000} &= \sqrt{9000000 - 280000} \\
&= 3000\sqrt{1 - \frac{28}{900}} \\
&\approx 3000\times\left(1 - \frac{1}{2}\cdot\frac{28}{900}\right) \\
&\approx 3000\times\left(1 - \frac{1}{2}\cdot\frac{30}{900}\right) \\
&= 3000\times\left(1 - \frac{1}{60}\right) = 2950 + \mathcal{O}\left(\frac{7}{225}\right)^2
\end{align}
[/math]
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>>16932635
One may refine this approach by recognizing this approach gives a lower bound to within about 3% error. If we take an upper bound to similar error, and average the results, we will hit the true value.
[math]\begin{align} \sqrt{8720000} &= \sqrt{9000000 - 280000} \\ &= 3000\sqrt{1 - \frac{28}{900}}\\
&= 3000\sqrt{1 - \frac{7}{225}}\\
&\approx 3000\sqrt{1 - \frac{7}{231}}\\
&= 3000\sqrt{1 - \frac{1}{33}}
&\approx 3000\times\left(1 - \frac{1}{66}\right) = 2953
\end{align}[/math]
average the two for 2952.5
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>>16931492
erm, hypothesis:
maybe it's Indian formatting, despite there being no 3 digit groups
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system#Decimal_formatting
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yes they taught me this in elementary school
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>>16931343
Yes...with a table
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>>16931343
ok. next how do I calculate sines and cosines by hand? If society collapses and calculators disappear, I won't be able to rebuild society because I can't calculate a cosine without a calculator
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>>16936394
I use the Taylor series for [math]e^{i\theta}[/math], where [math]\theta[/math] is the angle you're calculating the cosine of.
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>>16936387
sqrt(3) is the year george washington was born
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For calculating pi by hand, Machin's formula is convenient:
[eqn]\pi = 16 \tan^{-1} \left( \frac{1}{5} \right) - 4 \tan^{-1} \left( \frac{1}{239} \right)[/eqn]
This follows readily from
[eqn]\frac{(5 + i)^4}{1 + i} = 478 + 2i.[/eqn]
[math]\tan^{-1}(x)[/math] can be approximated with the usual power series.
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>>16932618
It's also worth mentioning that this can be easily extended to cube and higher roots.

To find [math]\sqrt[3]{N}[/math]:
Start with a guess G.
Solve [math]G \cdot G \cdot X = N[/math].
Your new better guess is [math]\frac{G+G+X}{3}[/math].
Repeat.

This is equivalent to using Newton's method but doesn't require calculus to explain.
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>>16931343
My father taught me fifty years ago. I forgot, but then I worked it out again.
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>>16931343
do you know how to make a good thread?



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