ok
>>16933245how do you know?Aztecs could've had flipbooks and paper airplanes and we'd have no idea
>>16933245if you're talking about something that isn't made out of stone or metal or some other long lasting durable material then any guess on when it was invented is just a complete random guess. There's no possible way to know when people first started folding light materials and throwing them. People could have been doing that 10,000 years ago for all we know, it's not like it's going to be preserved.
>>16933282Eventually one would get fossilized
>>16933285Fossilisation happens under very specific conditions over a long period of time. It's not as if everything that gets dropped on the ground becomes a fossil.It's not impossible, but paper is bio material and would become part of the biome rather than remain whole. At best you'd get the negative impressions of it on other artifacts or fossils. Oldest writing we have is from harder materials like clay. Parchment survived thanks to being preserved by the environmental conditions, not preserved by becoming fossilized (i. e. having minerals replaced, I think) made me think
>>16933245dats kinda interestding
>>16933299I thank u sincerely for taking my silly post seriously
>>16933282>There's no possible way to know when people first started folding light materials and throwing them.No records of it in the 19th century. It wasnt a toy that anyone tinkered with. On the topic, there were no gliders either.Seems like anyone would have gotten a hint by seeing things getting blown by gusts of wind. Never happened. People that tried to make flying devices insisted on flipping their arms or planks of wood like a bird
>>16933245Prove your claim, retard?Kites go back at least 2500 years, people understood that some objects could sail on air.
>>16933494>KitesZero records of paper planes. Or gliders for humans, which are totally able to fly.
>>16933311It's arbitrary and unfalsifiable.>>16933496>Zero records of paper planes.To what degree of definition of "paper plane"? A perfectly folded by modern standards sheet of pressed 8x11 bleached wood pulp? Yeah, probably. Of what benefit is such an observation though? What profound insight into human technological development are you making by saying "nobody ever plugged their phone into a usb cable before the invention of the transistor"? Can you make a claim with 100% certainty that no one ever sailed a piece of parchment or wood shaving or similar material through the air? I doubt it.
>>16933498>Can you make a claim with 100% certainty that no one ever sailed a piece of parchment or wood shaving or similar material through the air? I doubt it.Zero records of it. Yet somehow you claim "uh we have records of kites for 2500 years"But not this one
>>16933498dont be such a sour sausage
>>16933245Yea before airplanes, people thought the mechanical flapping or rising heat in the case of balloons was what made things fly instead of positive/negative pressure gradients.
>>16933420thanks for posting it ;DD twas funny
>>16933494>sailMade me think of boats, the conceptis pretty close.However yeah probably they didnt get theairplane shape down until after the airplane.
>>16933282If the ancient Egyptians were making paper ninja stars or playing paper football they would have wrote about it.
>>16933282they didnt have modern paper back then
>>16933673They had paper. The concept doesnt require modern paper. And you can make a glider from leather and a wood frame, able to carry a person.
>>16933245https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_aviones_precolom02.htmI saw the original in a museum in Bogota.
Bamboo copters, on the other hand, were invented centuries before helicopters.
>>16933539Well not quite.>As the Teacher says: "The bird flies higher and higher spirally, and then only needs to stretch its two wings, beating the air no more, in order to go forward by itself. This is because it starts gliding (lit. riding) on the 'hard wind' [gangqi 罡炁]. The Baopuzi, 318 AD
>>16934004These cant fly. I get they are like planes, but they cant fly, while the paper ones can.>>16934041>Bamboo copters, on the other hand, were invented centuries before helicopters.Interesting, yet mass media credits Leonardo for his atrocious twisted table with ropes as an early helicopter.
>>16933493Yep and any gliders they tried to make always had short, wide wings and no elongated tail
They thought of them as paper darts rather than paper planes
>>16934839ancient people must have understood the idea of a back tail stabilizing flight or else they wouldn't have put fletching on arrows
>>16934935Late 19th century flying machines always seemed to be trying to copy bats. The shape of the wings, and the lack of a tail. Completely unworkable.The Wright Brothers had to start almost from first principles with their own wind tunnel.
>>16934047>The bird flies higher and higherSo they weren't assuming that the bird flies higher and higher by flapping its wings until it reached a different layer of the sky where hard wind is in effect?
