What does /sci/ think of the science of psychiatry?Is it ethical to lock up a patient against their will and forcibly inject them with antipsychotics - drugs which have effects like shrinking the brain, obesity, muscle spasms, anxiety, and sometimes risky behaviour such as gambling and reckless spending?Perhaps patients should instead be allowed to make informed choices about what psychiatric medications they take?
>>16933643False dilemma. Technological civilization poisons and tortures its subjects until some of them devolve into a state of violent insanity, then tries to sweep them under the rug by lobotomizing them, under the pretext that there's nothing else to do with them (unless you count euthanasia) and they can't make their own decisions in that state. If you consider that last proposition outside of its proper context, you'd have to conclude it's true and concede the validity state psychiatry. But if you think of the bigger picture, the most rational and moral policy is to round up the top 10% financially, lock them all up in psychiatric hospitals and keep them on clozapine 24/7.
>>16933660>the most rational and moral policy is to round up the top 10% financially, lock them all up in psychiatric hospitals and keep them on clozapine 24/7.Interesting view. Or this could just be done to the psychiatrists who have locked up so many patients, torn up their rights, forcibly injected them with drugs, etc.
>>16933702I like how your mind is literally unable to process anything leading up to that sentence you quote, which results in your irrelevant and incongruent response.
>>16933643What we need from psyche:1. Emf protudes the skull into the universal emf framework2. Signals can be found in the environment that are from hallucinations3. We need many more sensors4. Vocab check, do u think schizos mean impossible powers?5. Chiral Archons and Chiral health couldn't hurt.
>>16933660Weeeeeeeeeeere?
The body is 20 interface fields in medicine, correct? The delusion is unified self?
I will complement AD HOC and even without the scientific method or a controlled environment, it is on chatgpt to help inventors.
Build the sensors /sci/ and psychiatry, u pay for em.
You do understand doc, that if you don't know it you can't find it there? Like a kid and the parents sex. And just like the paranormal. It's called a boundary condition or an Eigenstate.
REDPORTALZ V. S. ARCHONZ >>16933643If the system cuts them off DO NOT force the ties AGAINST them. The route is all "up into the portal". Thanks.
>>16933749As in let them replace their system alive u bastards, alive.
:) thank you very much.P. S. The route between Health and Patient "couples" in engineering WHEN the system made the schizo redundant and the schizo ascended to their /x/ world.
>>16933739Boundary condition of a material fact that is materialist and it is only what u know?
Casimir Effect – Boundary Hiding in ActionDefinition: The Casimir effect occurs when two uncharged, parallel conducting plates are placed extremely close together in a vacuum. Quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field are restricted between the plates, producing a measurable attractive force.Why it fits “hidden boundary conditions”:Hidden fluctuations: The vacuum fluctuations themselves are always present, but the plates act as a boundary condition that hides certain modes of the quantum field between them. Not all fluctuations can exist there.Observer dependence: To a macroscopic observer or ordinary camera, the vacuum looks empty—nothing seems “happening.” Only precise instruments can detect the force, revealing the hidden quantum activity.Bias appearance: The boundary condition selectively allows some modes and excludes others, producing a real, measurable bias—the plates attract each other, even though the vacuum seems “empty” to unaided senses.
IMG is a boundary condition
>>16933779P. S. That guy is back in hospital after health killed him
This img is a boundary condition too, no material fact.
>>16933783But the cat man might have a costume, is he a boundary condition the whole time of a real cat man?
If your wondering who I am, I am the eccentric, sophisticated, significant adult that single handedly started schizophrenia.
I am sane. The symptoms are of the murder of me not anything I had genetically.
Let us believe
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>>16933818Le bizzle
>>16933643At this point of me samefaggin>>16933814You attacked every schizo in the world
Health just is not viable compared to /x/I'll try fit u in /sci/ in Archeforms
These drugs are over engineered as hell, give em alcohol until they throw up, and keep doing it until they learn their lesson.
>>16933660It should be the bottom 10%, they are more of a liability than a asset. You are talking about destroying valuable assets.
>>16933840>You are talking about destroying valuable assets.I am talking about medicating psychopathic subhumans.
>>16933854The top of the pyramid pulls the hardest. You big dumb.
>>16933856>The top of the pyramid pulls the hardest.As in, pulls your leash the hardest. You're domesticated niggercattle born and raised. Your condition is genetic.
>>16933854We arn't the subhumans in the dominatetrix we are the adepts, seers, visionaries, gods, and starseedsAnd you all only have audible cortex not actual brain (except memory) where I can think and know things I didn't even hear.
>>16933982I will go first: If you subtle my mind I'll fire ya
>>16933982>>16933986>the psychiatric patient devolves into incoherence
I'm a schizophrenic who has been through the psychiatric machine since 15, and even though I'm on medication now, while secretly abusing drugs, I see the effectiveness in their maintenance of a stable ground state that's more socially acceptable, though I see that as possibly being an extension of ad populum and cultural conditioning.Although, I appreciate their progress in terms of psychedelic research as a verifiable alternative to standard medication regiments.Before, if someone were to say, "I experienced ego death while on LSD", then psychiatrists in the past would have defined it as temporary, drug-induced psychosis.Now, when the model of the Default Mode Network is scientifically verifiable, with actual evidence of how it regulates and reinforces our sense of identity, the structural dissolution of the DMN resulting in ego death is sound science.So, I recommend that specialists still take the appropriate amount of epistemic humility when analyzing phenomena that erupt from altered states or psychosis, because the field is still developing, and we're a long way off from the complete picture.
>>16933996And I'll just say not to mention that yall arn't that harmless
>>16934048Once I forced them to say they are murder to our systems
>>16934076Right guys??* Damn
>>16934078How'd you do that?I remember one time when I was forcibly committed, I developed the term "Psych Fascism," which was often glossed over, and that seemed to reinforce the idea that it was true, but one of the tending psychiatrists was sympathetic to the notion and recommended me a book with basic parallels, so that was cool.I wish I remembered what that book was called, though.
>>16934082Psyche Fascism is what they call themselves isn't it?
>>16934093No, that's what I called them as an insult, largely due to their sterile, almost inhuman mental rigidity and the application of their field to develop more strict uniformity of consciousness, usually through their integration with law.Granted, this was thought of during a state of intense paranoia, such as thinking that my mother was a child-raping cannibal, so we obviously haven't developed to the point of completely legislating the activity of independent minds, but it's developed various structural apparatuses that have permeated society into self-regulatory functions of categorizing "wrongthink."
>>16934105Don't let those doctors have his root
>>16934135NOW MOVE AROUND ME PSYCHIATRY BITCH
>>16934138Read it and weap sub humansWe are Gods, starseeds, vampires
>>16934139AND WE ARE NOT LOST SOULS!!!!!!!!!!
>>16934140Like we want to be mystical and we get to be, without yous
So as I said I'm the winner of the whole scientific argument
>>16934142And I have real based followers who know every point point blank
>>16933643there are some people that are just hard to be around. you have some psychotic people who, without meds or supervision will just scream at people all day in public or attack someone. what else are you supposed to do with these people? if someone is going to harm their self or someone else they should be put somewhere away from folks.
>>16936293This Even though psychiatry is bullshit, I don't want to deal with crazy cunts wandering the street and wish they would just round them up and store them somewhere that same people don't have to deal with their crap. This problem is half crazies who won't medicate and half drug addicts, though
>>16936327>>16936293Good to know that your support of psychiatry ultimately depends on jailing inconvenient people.
Unfortunately, most of this thread is poorly-written AI slop drivelling with the kind of self-contradictions typical of when one or two AI systems are forced to have prolonged discussions.>What does /sci/ think of the science of psychiatry?Even the original poster is a bot since; "What does board think of X" is the standard template for bots that have been in use on /adv/ for several years.
>>16936330Unironically yes A person who wanders into my shop dragging a bag of garbage with no pants on asking my customers for pants (this happened last month) can go fuck themselves in some padded cell
>>16936346You are using single cases, out of context, and likely brought on by drugs and similarly to defend an apparatus that is meant to condition you.
Shit that has to be deleted from human societies ASAP. Psychiatry is just totalitarism masked as humanitarianism. They destroyed my life as those of thousands of others. And for what? Because I philosophically endorsened suicide?Now I'm an obese chainsmoker who is sexually and emotionally numb, I don't go outside and I cannot work. That's their "cure".
>>16933643Today, I will comprehend
>>16933643Psychiatry is literally the most fucking corrupt and evil human project ever conceived. Nuclear weapons are actually less of a threat to our long-term survival than fucking psychiatrists.
>>16936346>one bad thing happened to me once upon a time>this is sufficient cause for me to shut off my empathy toward an entire massive section of the human population consisting of literally hundreds of millions of people around the worldyeah go fuck yourself you sociopathic nigger
You do know that psychiatric treatment is widely considered torture right? Most patients even those who become psychotic without any prior drug use are tortured for 6-12 months, before being transfered, to what can only be described as small prison like facilities (often called outpatient assisted living). If they refuse further injections of tranquilizers all of which are neurotoxic and cause severe often irreversible neuroadaptation that makes people more susceptible to psychosis later on plus progressive brain damage.By refusing state mandated neurotoxins(tranqulizers) state agents will come to their home drag them out by force and return them to a psychiatric ward for another 6 to 12 months of chemical restraint and coercion until full compliance and obedience is achieved.(sometimes they are tortured for years.)These drugs cause emotional blunting that is often irreversible just like much of the other damage they inflict alongside the psychological torture of forced treatment.If you have never experienced this I almost hope you do get abducted by state agents and treated for 12 to 18 months, Would love to hear your thoughts afterward.You argue that this only happens in isolated bad cases.In reality in developed countries it is nearly impossible for a psychotic person to avoid this system. because the psychotic state has effectively become one of the most harshly punished crimes in modern society.The crime of being psychotic is punished with chemical torture physical restraint severe brain damage lifelong forced injections of neurotoxins intense medical gaslighting and and killed of early, the forced treatment leads to 20-30 years earlier death, it will most likely reach 30-40 years reduced lifespan with gen 3 drugs and gen 4. Very few other behaviors are punished this brutally.Now go fuck yourself you mongrel.
>>16938021This. Also consider that antipsychotics are given to depressed people nevertheless, which they may (and often do) discontinue due to the severe side-effects and the medication "not working" (guess what, they're depressed, not psychotic) that results in them becoming actively psychotic. Psychiatry is dangerous, ineffective and based on senseless pseudo-scientific quackery. Most agencies tell that psychiatry will be abandoned in like 20 years, fortunately so, but the damage they've done and will continue to do is immense.
>>16937910you should sell it to get rid of your addiction + 50k
>>16938181Get rid of what? The fat? You actually pay for having it removed, not the other way around.
Just take the lithium, unless you feel like being homeless.
How do you guys deal with employment? I've had 2 jobs this year already and lost bost because my boss doesnt understand my manic episodes are therapy for me
>>16938473my uncle runs a medium sized company and basically nepo hired me, he says he’s understands I’m prone to manic spergouts and that he’ll try to work around themthankfully I have not had an episode in years cuz they put on once a month injectables
>>16933643Like most issues today, sanatarium membership boils down to freedom of movement vs. freedom from intrusion, neither of which are natural rights.
Ditch this retarded book for MRIs, prescribe proper medications to real dysfunctional people and analyze human behavior at a more granular level.>Psychiatry is bullshit and a complete pseudoscience or something and mental illness isn't real its a societal construct!This thread was a great litmus test to see how fucking stupid everyone actually is on /sci/ with their complete binary ameritard thinking. Thanks for letting the unethical pharmaceutical companies work to make you deranged enough have no problem solving skills. Psychiatry isn't going to disappear, faggot. Cook up ideas to have this 'pseudoscience' treat people better instead of bitching about the whole thing, or do nothing. Your choice.
>>16938615>Psychiatry isn't going to disappear, faggotBut it will become less visible as it becomes less and less socially acceptable to present yourself as a psychiatric patient to the people around you.
>>16938615>>16938631Psychiatry would have its justification if it was actually based on hard science as opposed to marketing campaigns that are down to pharmaceutical interest groupsSome psychiatric diagnoses like schizophrenia, most of autism with the exception of Asperger's, intellectual disability are brain diseases or caused by lesions to the brain or otherwise secondary effects of metabolical and neurological diseases.
that's neat, can you show me the MRI findings consistent with a diagnosis of schizophrenia? First break psychosis would be cool. I still have all my imaging on discs somewhere
>>16933643In 2025, I was hospitalized against my will twice. The first time, I was using bupropion without a prescription (only 150mg per day) and I had seizures, so they forcibly hospitalized me. The second time, I had taken 30mg of zolpidem to get high and they hospitalized me. They forced me to take antipsychotics, and I gained 16kg. The lithium they forced me to take caused swelling in my feet.Today I still take controlled medications without a prescription; in March 2026, I took 70mg of zolpidem, which...MY BODY IS MINE AND I PUT WHAT I WANT INSIDE MY BODY! NO ONE SHOULD BE HOSPITALIZED AGAINST THEIR WILL!
I think a lesser known failure of psychiatry is the treatment of the types of restricted eating caused by things like autistic sensory issues. Most doctors treat this kind of restricted eating by denying its existence, and those who do acknowledge its existence take a psychiatric approach: The problem is the patient’s head, we need to manipulate their thoughts to make them normal. In practice this means coercing the patient eat “healthy” foods they are afraid of, which frequently fails to make the patient regularly eat new foods because eating the new foods is painful for them, and depending on the type of coercion the patient may be traumatized as well. The idea is that the psychiatrist makes the patient normal first, and health will naturally come after that. Health is literally not the priority. When treating people with these kinds of eating restrictions, health should be the priority, not normalcy, and that means running bloodtests to determine what nutrients they are actually physically lacking and working within their restrictions to overcome these deficiencies rather than coercing them to eat iceberg lettuce and damaging their relationship to food in the long term.
>>16933643It's nonsense.>Used to smoke a ton of weed>Forcibly admitted to hospital for manic episode>In hospital for a month>Spend 5 collective minutes with any doctor asking me questions>Nobody ever asks about my lifestyle>Doctor tells me "You're bipolar, so you'll always be bipolar">They give me meds that make me want to kill myself>Stop taking psychiatric drugs as soon as I'm out of the hospital>Stop smoking weed for years>Start smoking a lot of weed again>Back in hospital within a few months>They give me drugs that make my hair fall out and want to kill myself again>Again, nobody asks me about my lifestyleThere's no method to anything they do. They just want to give you drugs and move you down the pipeline. They probably hope you kill yourself based on the reaction I've had to the drugs they've given me. They never ask about your habits that may be making you depressed or what kinds of illicit drugs you're self medicating with. They just think "This is what happens to some people. They're bipolar and we can't fix it"It's total bullshit
>>16945223Stop smoking thc, please do not use thc, it makes the mental illness worse. T. Former severe thc user.Thc induces schizophrenia especially at high doses. Eat lots of fruit and veg, avoid sugar. Excercise daily.
