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Redpill me on 'epigenetics'. We frequently hear about a population being genetically disadvantaged because of colonialism or past wrongdoings. People claim indians have a high rate of diabetes because of britain, or black people are more obese because of jim crow racism.

What do we know about epigenetic effects in human beings? Have they ever been observed in a population on a large scale?
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it's not even a science, it's an ideological belief invented from the humanities (cancer)
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>>16933754
its usually glow niggers doing live gene editing with multiple different vectors
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>>16933754
Epigenetics is just anything that changes gene expression without altering the genes themselves. Environmental factors can play a role but those sorts of influences are typically short-lived and are highly unlikely to affect the germ line (meaning they won't be inherited).

>>16933792
You have zero idea what you're talking about.
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it's just culture, you retards, that's all it is, a group of people adopt a culture that lets them survive adversity, this culture somehow creates an environment that allows for similar gene expression, then later 4chan incels start calling them low iq because their culture doesn't prioritize sitting to take silly tests even though these people live in perfect harmony in their environment which no other group of people can manage to do because they live in a different environment and prioritize another culture, case in point every group of people on earth, africans, inuits, amerindians, surburb cattle, city hustlers, etc this is so fucking simple it's a mystery nobody in academia seems to understand it what with all the retarded monikers assigned to try explaining why some civilizations seem 'more advanced' than others when what they are is just too adapted to their environment, take them out and watch them fail miserably, afrikaners in south africa and black americans in america are perfect examples where minority cultures clash with majority cultures that won't allow them to succeed because it undermines the status quo of the majority
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>>16933902
i was under the expression methylization can have permanent systemic effects that are inherited, like apparently autism via RABGGTB, did the assistant lie to me again? :c
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>>16933792
So is genetics.
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>>16933909
epigenetics are not memes, you dumb high schooler faggot.
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>>16933792
Your beliefs are humanities, not science
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>>16933754
Wait, so then how is it wrong to conclude that IQ and behavior is inherited at the genetic level when epigenetics exist? Doesn't this just give credence to the fact that some races are lower IQ?
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>>16933914
Epigenetic markers can be inherited only if they impact the germ line.
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>>16934028
If you want to discuss IQ you can go to /his it's not science it's business
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>>16934026
then explain why eating only protein, which is a meme produced from living in a dry environment like a desert or the tundra lead to heart disease, the inuit and turkana people eat more protein on average and both suffer from a higher rate of heart diseases, behaviour is molded by culture you inbred retard, choosing to live in this part of the world while the rest of the population lives elsewhere is a meme, why is this so difficult to understand
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>>16934080
You're literally just talking about an entirely different subject.
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>>16934085
you are actually retarded, you might be too low iq for this discussion
>Epigenetics is
the study of how environmental factors, behavior, and lifestyle—such as diet, stress, and toxins—cause chemical modifications to DNA that turn genes on or off without altering the underlying genetic sequence.
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>>16934088
Are you a troll or retarded?
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>>16934080
you're not describing epigenetics, you're describing how epigenes can be influenced. memes are not solely concerned with genes. you can't actually be this stupid, can you?
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>>16934088
Not all epigenetic markers are caused by one's environment. Try again.
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>>16934099
>memes are not solely concerned with genes
of course they aren't, that's like saying eating food does not take away hunger, if memes reinforce good gene expression, then why wouldn't they be transmitted
>>16934100
it does not need to be all, retard, have you heard of the pareto principle
am i arguing with middle school retards?
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>>16934106
>it does not need to be all, retard
When you're attempting to provide a definition, then yes it does.
It's not even a slim majority that are environmental in nature. The reason bone cells and skin cells are different is because of epigenetics.

If you want an actually serviceable definition, see >>16933902
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>>16934106
>of course they aren't, that's like saying eating food does not take away hunger, if memes reinforce good gene expression, then why wouldn't they be transmitted
not what epigenetics mean.
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>>16934108
>>16934110
can you explain why north koreans are shorter than south koreans if it has nothing to do with their different way of life, aka, memes and culture, despite being the same people removed by a few generations, tell me what epigenetic means through this lens, let's see how well you understand it
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>>16933754
sounds like absolute bullshit for retards, guess what that makes you. kek yw
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>>16933754
Probably they're gonna claim traumatization once those Palestinians end up in the USA and all develop autism because of the vaccine schedule.
Expect a Minnesota 2.0
If tarded brain-damaged Somalis aren't enough, you're in for a big surprise.
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>>16933754
For a people that hate Jews so much, their logic is suspiciously Jewish.
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>>16934196
>if it has nothing to do with their different way of life, aka, memes and culture
Nobody said that. You just don't understand what you're talking about.
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>>16934215
plenty of people replied saying otherwise, maybe you replied to the wrong person because you have no idea what's being discussed
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>>16934217
>plenty of people replied saying otherwise,
No they did not. What they did say is population-scale adaptations to cultural trends is not the same thing as epigenetics.
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>>16934220
yes and height changes akin to north korea does not change genes, only expression, how is this different from epigenetics, oh wait, i know your reply, nobody said that, you just don't understand what you are talking about
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>>16934224
Some examples of [x] being examples of [y] does not confer identity between [x] and [y].
Yes. Height variation between North and South Koreans is (mostly) an example of epigenetics. Nobody said it was not.
However, you going on to extrapolate a sweeping claim like this:
>>16933909
>it's just culture, you retards
betrays a gross misunderstanding of what epigenetics is, the sorts of things it describes, and its scope.
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>>16934227
my post was about the differences btn the economic performance of people being attributed to iq or some rare genetic trait that only certain populations have, and i specifically attacked epigenetics for not being able to address this, but your guys decided to become autistic about the definition and missed the whole point of my post which is about how epigenetics fails to properly address this and how culture can explain it
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>>16934229
Then explain why, when someone else responded with this:
>>16934025
>epigenetics are not memes
you doubled down on what was apparently a misunderstanding of your post?
Based on what you're saying right now, you two are actually in agreement. Epigenetics != memes. And many observed differences between populations are not genetic or even epigenetic, but a simple reflection of their culture.
That claim, while accurate, is still a separate discussion from epigenetics.
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>>16934238
that's not me, my posts are always long and never imply epigenetics are memes, basically the gist is to let op know epigenetics can't answer his questions
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>>16934258
Was this post you? >>16934080
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>>16934205
>Probably they're gonna claim traumatization once those Palestinians end up in the USA and all develop autism because of the vaccine schedule.
Thats been genuinely suggested for Somalis. Basically, low Vitamin D and the stress from living in a white society causes their pregnancy to go 'weird' though they don't prove anything. Thats the reason that 20 % or so of the minnesota somali kids are mentally retarded.
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>>16933754
>white people are to blame for everything
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg
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>>16933754
pseudoscientific weapon designed specifically & intentionally to ensure that today's """marginalized groups""" can maintain their status as oppressed victims no matter how successful or empowered or coddled they become
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>>16933909
>even though these people live in perfect harmony in their environment which no other group of people can manage to do
lmao if you believe this. also this implies minority cultures are an evil cancer that must be wiped out since they're the culture failing to live in "perfect harmony in their environment" like the majority culture did.
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>>16934500
> 20 % or so of the minnesota somali kids are mentally retarded.
Source?
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>>16935023
Australians almost wiped out aboriginals, argentinians did it too with blacks and so did colonial americans, yes you can do it, but it will cost you, see where all those countries are today in regard to this? You can wipe them out, but don't expect the immigrant minorities streaming into those countries to tolerate your attitudes, or the vulnerable, women and idealistic academics drunk on leftist victimization ideologies, there's always a cost to everything because humans never forget. The better strategy is to assimilate them the way the chinese do, there should be no identity outside of national identity, this way they have something to defend.
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>>16935031
The average IQ of an Somali as measured in Somalia is in the low '60s. The literature can be easily consulted for that.
>Hiiraan.com -> watch_autism_diagnoses_are_soaring_among_somali_kids_in_minnesota
Type this in Google or similarly. 8 % of all Somali kids are diagnosed with autism by the age of 4 of which the vast majority are also mentally retarded. You will, however, not find statistics on intellectual disability sorted by race. Officially, two to three percent of all black people are intellectually disabled. According to IQ measures, five times as many should be (15 %) and cognitive impairment in black people is known to be a leading cause of why they commit so many crimes.
However, since in 2025, autism accounts for roughly half of all mental retardation cases, it's fair to assume that, even given the stigma and the politically driven dogma to subsume mental retardation under autism, in the end, at least 10 % of all Somali kids are labelled, in one way or another, as retarded.
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>>16935219
This also fits well with another observation, that especially applies to the USA. When the US media speak of an "autistic" child, they nearly always mean a mentally retarded one but they can't say that due to legal reasons.
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>>16935219
>>16935221
This isn't ordinary bleakness... this advanced bleakness



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