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between an object moving and an object not moving, what is the indivisible step that sits between the start of movement and the movement itself?
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Willpower.
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>>16934056
what is in the middle of willpower beginning and willpower acting?
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>>16934042
Everything is always moving, it’s just harder to perceive and less efficient to model such movement in the brain anyway. But let’s consider an object being acted upon by another force. Well then it starts moving and that’s pretty much it so yeah stop thinking about it
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>>16934059
President Donald J. Trump
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>>16934042
This is science board where for practical purposes we assume materialism is the truth. You should ask that on /lit/ which is the closest thing to philosophy board.
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>>16934042
the continuum hypothesis
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>>16934042
>intermediate stage between being and non-being?
Dying.
>between the start of movement and the movement itself
acceleration
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>>16935075
acceleration is a number

if you could divide movement in frames, would there would be two frames between rest and the first sign of movement? if so, wouldn't that be an instantaneous change therefore faster than light?
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>>16935121
>acceleration is a number
No, it is a concept.
>would there would be two frames between rest and the first sign of movement?
The first sign of movement and no sign of movement are both necessary to calculate the initial acceleration because acceleration is an intermediate calculation as you asked, it basically averages out the lack of movement with the calculated movement to determine the rate of change between those two moments.
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>>16934042
>what is the intermediate stage between being and non-being?
being is binary
>what is the indivisible step that sits between the start of movement and the movement itself?
movement is relative

go back to high school retard
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>>16935138
>being is binary
Tell that to the cat in the box.
>movement is relative
So relative gravity, something like, that is your answer?
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>>16934042
half-being
which currently describes my existence very well
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>>16934127
if the foundations of physics are ill defined anything that comes after it is a house of cards
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>>16934042
He cute
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>what is the intermediate stage between being and non-being
Being.
>between an object moving and an object not Moving.
An object moving.
>what is the indivisible step that sits between the start of movement and the movement itself
Movement.
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>>16934042
Nothing. It's either moving or it isn't.
>but muh philosophy
Don't care about ancient greek word games
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>>16936868
nonsense
>>16936889
your physics stands on nothing, you're all just playing mind games with imaginary constructions
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>>16937129
Oops, I just shot you in the face thanks the "imaginary constructions" I devised, even though the bullet shouldn't have been able to reach your face or even leave the barrel according to Zeno's paradoxes of motion. What a blunder!
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>>16934042
The intermediate stage does not exist because "moving" is a continuum, and the probability of pinning any one specific value in a continuum is zero.

In other words, if you move even in the slightest you're not stationary, and no matter how close you zoom in you'll never find an intermediate state, just intermediate speeds.
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>>16934042
The step of OP spreading his cheeks
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>>16937180
you can make a gun without any quantum bullshit or newtonian physics, it's called being an engineer or technician
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>>16937188
>"moving" is a continuum, and the probability of pinning any one specific value in a continuum is zero.
by absurdity that must mean there is no continuum

>In other words, if you move even in the slightest you're not stationary, and no matter how close you zoom in you'll never find an intermediate state

have physicists shown that at any point of is this just your hypothesis?
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>>16937264
>you can make a gun without any quantum bullshit
I guess? Is your only understanding of post-medieval physics "quantum bullshit"?
>or newtonian physics
Not really. Well, not a very good gun at any rate, classical mechanics are kind of unavoidable.
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>>16934042
>what is the intermediate stage between being and non-being?
Potentiality. See: Aristotle
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>>16937129
What is the "intermediate stage" between one infinitesimal and the next?
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I think that the middle state is "cooking"
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>>16937606
The object thinks about moving and then it's cookin' about it.
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>>16937566
that's the question
what is it?
why haven't physicists measured it?
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>>16937625
Because you can't, it's infinitely small to the point there will be no iteration to see no matter how far you go. Contemplating "what's next" at the infinitesimal succession of a real number is a waste of time to contemplate at that point. It becomes an analytic a posteriori question due to this infinite progression that no prior calculation can resolve. With real numbers there can only be whatever is after them, not whatever is "next".
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>>16934042
Existence is discrete, it's on or off, no inbetween
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>>16937659
>Because you can't, it's infinitely small
prove it using scientific evidence

>>16937864
>Existence is discrete
prove it using scientific evidence
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>>16937890
>prove it using scientific evidence

The discreteness of the world can't be proven scientifically yet, give it 20-50 years.

Philosophically it's the only good solution to Zeno's paradox of motion.
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>>16937916
>Philosophically it's the only good solution to Zeno's paradox of motion.
his paradox is not the problem, it's the intermediate between infinitesimal states
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>>16934042
The plane of ideas and concepts. Its where you will first go when you die, it will feel like earth as thats where your ideas come from. But due to lack of use, the most physical ideas will vanish until you are left with only abstract thought. That is heaven.
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>>16940756
ok
what's the intermediate step between an idea/concept and a non-idea/non-concept?
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>>16934056
what is the intermediate step between willpower acting and willpower just being?
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OP here

mayhaps, the answer is a state with properties of both movement and non-movement, being and non-being, kind of like how a liquid is the intermediate step between solid and gas, with properties of each of them (fluid like the gas, touchable like the solid)
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>>16942061
jerking it while suffocating yourself
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>>16934042
simply change
Whatever you might describe as that step fundamentally depends on change.
Change is abrupt, in the sense that you can't actually get "underneath" it to find what causes it, as whatever cause you would describe also depends on change.
You might be able to explain why a particular change occured, for example one object bumped another which caused movement. This doesn't explain how change exists in the first place, as whatever cause you ascribe to change is simply another change.
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>>16934042
jerk? thats already solved lol
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>>16943021
i LOVE jerking!
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>>16942927
why inertia? what is inertia?
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Literally her.
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>>16943021
jerk is a quantity, not an actual thing



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