stupid orange rocket editionprevious >>16934452
>>16936340Why not just hit the Target from this angle?Are they stupid?
I wonder what having paws is like
>>16936362Give an example of a Russian 'hypersonic' that was not a ballistic missile.>>16936364Why not come from the opposite direction a radar is facing? That's why FOBS was a huge deal.
>>16936378Zircon
Cancel SLS
maybe a cat got his tongue
Bros... Elon and spacex may have been onto something...
how do i filter the AIbrained poster
>>16936416a 0.1nm chip manufacturing node wouldn't use current tech, like, at all. and that's assuming it's even possible. 0.1nm is the size of a single carbon atom.current "node sizes" are fake marketing speak anyway
>>16936417I can reply to AI posts with <AI> and you can hide anything that has it as a reply post. I'll charge you $10/mo for this service
My words like silent raindrops fellAnd echoed in the wells -- of silence
>>16936416You aren't going below "2nm" in any feasible manner. The physical size is already bigger than that, and you can't make things smaller because quantum tunneling practically dominates the physics. 0.1nm? lmao, the radius of a Silicon atom is 0.22nm.
ok so just break the atom apart then smart guy
>>16936424There's no need for that. The actual feature pitches being used on modern silicon are roughly between 20 and 45nm. They will not be getting smaller without dramatic improvements for controlling quantum effects.
>>16936420>>16936423this is me asking about in-space manufacturing. To go lower than 2nm, making it in space is very very essential. Then going past silicon wafers..
>>16936428The process is not limited by gravity. Removing gravity would not let you shrink the feature set inside the processors.
>>16936423>the radius of a Silicon atom is 0.22nmuse a smaller atom? we can make future circuit boards out of hydrogen
>>16936431You go ahead and let me know when someone figures out how to process hydrogen as a solid at standard temperature and pressure.
>>16936422in space, nobody can hear you talk
Izzy loves his nukie wookie!
>>16936432why does it need to be a solid or at stp? just use super cold gaseous hydrogen
>>16936430but gravity is or will be a major factor on current high-end chip-making. Making them in space will lead to higher yields and quality
>>16936436Well, first off, liquid hydrogen is an insulator. Secondly, you cannot contain it: it will literally seep through the gaps in any atomic lattice.>>16936438There is absolutely nothing about the microgravity environment of space that makes it suitable for chip making.
Spaceguy58hThe "phenomenal track record" of Starship being years and many billions of dollars behind schedule while still blowing up during routine testing, putting the moon landing + plans for satellite constellations far behind schedule? God elon investors are so fucking gullible.Well, he's not completely wrong...
>>16936439Really? What about pic?
>>16936441That's BS? If chip manufacturing in space is so awesome, we'd be doing it already.
>>16936428>>16936430LMAO.as far as I know, if anything, gravity makes parts of the process possible
>>16936440he is completely wrong in fact
nicht einmal falsch
>>16936435does this powersail thing actually exist?or are you just comparing something that doesn't exist to something else that doesn't exist and saying one is better than the other?this also assumes that nuclear RTGs are at the end of their development and can't be improvedwhy assume that?
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2037680899626868865Jared on the private space stations issue
>>16936443Dude? We're just starting to. Varda or something comes to mind when it comes to a company pursuing manufacturing in space and now spacex with their railgun concept on the moon. The ride there is the biggest cockblocker
>>16936449>"deal w/ it"jared is cold
>>16936422Do strokes have medically identifiable markers? Such as distinct signs that show up on brain scans or whatver?How were they able to conclusively rule out a stroke? Loss of speech seems like a smoking gun for SOME sort of stroke, right?
>>16936449a) it's really great to have such a young administrator who is also terminally online and constantly responding to pertinent space tweets. Bridenstine and Bill were good communicators in their own right, but Jared is very obviously connected to the public sphere without much filters and its awesomeb) see >>16936234Aren't these private space station companies complaining that NASA has now ditched the plan of releasing RFIs? But jared here is saying he wishes companies respond to RFIs? What am I missing here
>>16936448RTGs are at the end of their development Yes? An RTG is just a hot rock and there's no tech to improve, although an alternative hot rock of Anericium is s fuel processing techish thing. The last tech improvement was the advanced Stirling energy converter, but NASA says that didn't pan out so they killed that.
>>16936455Nigga the nuclear-sterling Krusty/Kilopower thing wasn’t an “improvement” so much as just an application of known technology (hot rock fuel pellets) to an even older, reliable technology (sterling engines)Literally THE only way we know how to power things long-term in space is with nature’s ability to give us hot rocks
sorry for the question, but who the fuck is izzy?
>>16936422No is falling for this over the roastie got pregnant and he took one for the team, right?
>>16936452Space stroke leave no trace
god I fucking love cheesy French fries. I hope they have cheesy French fries on the moonbase.
>>16936462*n0 0neHere I go, I'm stroking too
>>16936467I used to feel this way about Taco Bell until their prices skyrocketed exponentially.We will probably still have Chic Fil A there, though. They have remained loyal to the customer. (although their newest sandwiches are like $11 that’s fucking outrageous)
>>16936422Maybe don't send geriatric geezers into stressful, dangerous environments
whats isar going to about the fisherman? he's probably going to continue blocking their launches.
>>16936472le fishe
https://x.com/chadsonofchad/status/2037555779541028983estimates of SpaceX vs BO capital raised
>>16936481
>>16936481>>16936482Cool, wake me when SS reaches orbit and does a fuel transfer demo; not to mentions lands on the fucking moon. Oh, and all before the next two years btw
>>16936481tortoise.jpg
>>16936453The RFP the companies are talking about is a different one than the now released RFIs (also these aren't the same, RFPs are further along the chain), it had been expected and requested for a long time and was meant to lay out a clearer plan of what would be expected and required of industry. Now NASA proposed yet another change to the overall plan and the RFIs are basically just "how do we solve this?".The reality is NASA doesn't have the budget for a new station and the commercial providers don't have a business case (though apparently some are pretending otherwise).>>16936461Hi new friend!
>>16936497>The reality is NASA doesn't have the budget for a new stationit's time for noaa and the ussf to step up
what if they put a data center on the commercial station
>>16936382Zircon is a ballistic missile
>>16936440He is flailing because he works at Marshall and his job relies on the SLS status quo.
/sfg/ ᑐᖁᖓᔪᖅ.
>>16936481Wow so they used to be good?
pluto rover
>>16936518we need high resolution pictures of hydra, nix, styx, and kerberos. maybe elon could help?
>>16936518Manned landing on Pluto, you mean.
>>16936422>Be me>An astronaut onboard ISS>Decide to play a little practical joke on my crewmates>Stop talking for twenty minutes>If crewmate says hello, say nothing back and just stare at them>Cremates lose their minds and contact mission control>Mission control loses its mind and contacts the White House>Team of world's top neurologists try to diagnose you over a zoom call but can't make heads or tails out of it>A hundred million dollar emergency evacuation plan has been put in motion and the president personally calls you to tell everything is going to be alright >Too late to just laugh it off and go "Gotcha!"
These two photographs are separated by only 2 weeks.
>>16936536Get mad at other astronautsGive them the silent treatmentNext thing, they're trying to shove you in a Soyuz and pushing the DOWN button
>>16936481Before founding Space Capital, Anderson led a successful career at JPMorgan Chase, where he managed a real estate portfolio of dilapidated rental housing and over priced one bedroom condos.The alliance of SpaceX and stock pimps.... ...
>>16936462NASA had the fetus shoved out the airlock.
>>16936422He was possessed by an alien entity
got banned of xitter again for telling nikita to kys
>>16936452ischemic attack is the same thing as stroke. so just a mini stroke so stroke is not ruled out
>>16936422Must have been exciting for the flight surgeon to actually do something for once.
there was just a space launchno one cares
what did it launch
>>16936606who cares, seriously
>electron with european LEO GPShmm
>>16936606Some junk
>>16936614figures that the author is one of those anti-progress EDS types
>>16936568I never understood the distinction between a mini stroke, and a MASSIVE stroke. Aren't you fucked either way?
>>16936618It depends on how much brain tissue is damaged, if any. A brief stroke may not cause any neuron damage.
>>16936461Someone trying to force a meme, they mean Jared Isaacman.
"Hey Hey! Whaaaaaa?"
>>16936634What a shithole
>>16936635This is more like home
>>16936636>living on a waterletOH NO NO NO
>waterfags be like>boy i sure do love having zero muscle and having no friction in my step
It is soon April and they didn’t even have one successful static fire.
>>16936656STOP NOTICING
>>16936603I care, but mostly because it again puts New Zealand ahead of Russia at number of launches this year. I will never not find this funny.
>>16936435Not pictured: nuclear power systems
Orbit: Live in a hamster wheelOther planets and moons: Live in an underground Habitrail.Nope
Artemis II astronauts arrive at Florida launch site for first moon trip in 53 yearsBanana for Starship Flight 12 arrives in Texas May 15th.
>>16936636vgh sol
>>16936450Manufacturing in space, at scale, is decades away.At this point, orbital manufacturing is like fusion power.
>>16936450Need some way to deliver propellent to LEO at very very low cost. Starship is interesting but the Ship uses up most of the fuel to reach a stable orbit.
>>16936675Welcome to the rocket equation.Starship appears to be the best thing we have right now to bring down cost through full reusability.
>>16936675fuel shouldn't care about G forces so it's a compelling use case for mass drivers. that is if we pretend other problems aren't real, like going mach fuck through sea level air
>>16936501it would extremely painful(if there were enough energy)
>>16936682A space cannon to shoot barrels of fuel.
>>16936682people often talk about the fallacy of building launch pads on top of mountains to make it easier, but is projectile launch to orbit a case where it really would help? Maybe not on a literal mountain peak, but on a high alpine plain like the Atacama Desert.
>>16936682Use an aeroshell. THAAD uses a shroud on its IR seeker and it falls off during flight.
>>16936685I would say yes if the projectile launch makes sense to begin with, which is a big if.
If Titan didn't have the thick yellow smog but just a pure N2 atmosphere it would look like this. ROBBED
>Last year you were seen as an extreme pessimist if you said flight 12 will be in April>Now you are an optimist if you say it
Unpopular opinion: extraterrestrial civilizations are boring and uninteresting for humans, right now it just seems to be interesting because it is unknown.
/sfg/: smart, funny and heterosexual
>>16936567tyfys
>>16936618Do you understand the distinction between scraping your knee and having your leg blown off?
>>16936678no rocketsno equationno problem
we're unironically 2 weeks away from starship
>>16936723What happens first, the launch or the end of the war?I hope it's the former so at least we have something to watch.
>>16936695No. That's a videogame
>>16936732Nope. It's a tuned simulation I vibe coded.
What the fuck? WHY?
>>16936737fishing boats
Does SpaceX have a high mobility, multipurpose, edge computing, AI enhanced space cruiser?
>>16936741>she
>>16936675Atmospheric scoops for the LOX
>>16936741>edge computing, AI enhancedWhat does this mean, literally what does this fucking mean.
>>16936746>edge computingbasically doing the compute right where the sensors are rather than relaying back to some central brain>AI enhancedit has tensor cores so if you're doing something with an AI workflow (video processing) you can take advantage of that
>>16936746>"gib funding plz"
>>16936746edge computing means you have shit internet but alot of data, so instead of flying out hard drives full of raw data, you just crunch the numbers onsite
>>16936382When was that used? Is there any actual footage of it? it's like those iranian cardboard jet mockupsThe only "hypersonics" Russia has deployed operationally are Kinzhals, and those are literally just an air-launched variant of the Iskander ballistic missile.
>>16936759https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-uses-zircon-hypersonic-missile-ukraine-first-time-researchers-say-2024-02-12/
>>16936743machines are female
>>16936766females are machines
>>16936741¿Por qué le contestaba a alguien que hablaba español? jaja
>falun gong-ran epoch times retard at the Florida Artemis 2 crew event asked a question about easter gah
>>16936741>>16936736>>16936421>>16936416>muh aiKYS NIGGERS
>>16936778you actually enjoy it when anons post random AI shit here?
>>16936780WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU DUMBASS. HOLY SHIT. NO. THE FUCK I DON'T.You have to be an AI bro yourself. You're an absolute fucking nitwit. Fuck off. Go back to eating Crayons.
Lunches before Flight 12Artemis 2. Around the freaking MoonAnother Blue launch and landAnother VulcanSomething ChineseSomething RussianSomething IndianIt could not possible be more over.
>>16936790At least Artemis 2 will be cool, whether it all goes off without a hitch or Orion incinerates on reentry.
>>16936785Dude chill. Have a smoke, relax. You're gonna get a stroke if you keep stressing yourself out.
>>16936803Your anti-intellectual tech bro ballwashing horseshit bores me.
>>16936803If you're pro-AI you should at least post stuff that isn't buzzword salads and actual bullshit.
>>16936736lmao slop in slop out
>>16936741Blue Urine and their Blue Cock Ring. I give up
>>16936764right, so russia has no hypersonic weapons, got it.thirdies like russians and others abuse that term like crazy because it's extremely broad and vague, it helps them pretend that they're technologically on par when they're just not.
I'm disappointed that NASA is not showing a starship wet workshop design for their new half-commercial station core module
>>16936840Why the hell would they do that
>>16936845because it makes more sense to have a wet workshop starship for the core module
>>16936846Anon, their desire is to have a minimally small core with lots of attachment points and life support. And all the commercial companies involved are pissed right now that their opportunity for fully-funded stations just got thrown out the window in favor of little one-off modules. Add on to that the fact that Starship got one of the lowest ratings for Commercial LEO Destinations by NASA.Implying they are now giving a contract to SX would probably just make everyone rage quit altogether, and collectively sue. And what NASA needs is something like a Cygnus XL or Dragon XL with a big docking port. Not a thin Starship with an entire fuel tank and engines slapped on the ass that cannot attach to the ISS and support multiple modules attached to it. Holy shit get real
>>16936846>it makes more sense to have a wet workshopOh so you’re just retarded, I see
>>16936848explain your reasoning to the class
>>16936847This will all be appealed then end up in court. Gets resolved in the 2030s.
>>16936840Wet workshops were the stupidest idea NASA drones every developed. Like building an apartment in a gas station underground tank.
>>16936852maybe for kerolox rockets but hydrolox or metholox should be pretty clean
>>16936821May we see the SpaceX HLS? Perhaps a full sized full unit mockup?Haven't even seen a wood desktop model yet.
>>16936853Nah you stupid ass wet worshop slaves are the biggest class of hand wavers ever
>>16936853Methane tankGasoline tankBoth equally contaminated.
>>16936852Even NERVA was stupid. But these ideas have staying power.
I'm a Skylab shill now and always
>>16936859I think most consider it based and lament the fact that they couldn’t get Shittle ready in time to reboost it. Anything involved with the Apollo era and that generation of designers and operators was awesome
>>16936854lol
Okay but seriously what did Berger mean when he said HALO and i-Hab are already corroded? Like what the fuck how was Gateway going to even work, then?
>>16936859i think people have this warped perception that skylab was some tiny shitty version of the ISS, when in reality it was fuck huge and awesome
>>16936864indeedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dnOMzD4wyE
>>16936867But why the ducttape on the shoe?
>>16936858They're the dusty Vette in grandpa's garage that never gets restored.
>>16936869the Skylab shoes had triangular lugs for attaching to the grid floors. I assume this was a mod done by the crew to help with something
>>16936864skylab is fatter than most (all?) iss modules, but also iss packs itself like a hoarder. they have a lot more space than they let on
>>16936872Oh man I totally forgot about those.I wonder if the tape was to fix some sort of slipping of the shoe, or to keep it even tighter for better control.
>>16936874size comparison
>SENPAI is backLET'S GOOOOO
>>16936883Who?
mELtdOwNHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA AHahahhahahhahah HAHHAhah ah AH
>>16936875Grok? Any ideas?You bet! Skylab astronauts used grey duct tape to repair and secure the triangular cleats on their specialized, gridded-floor shoes. These cleats allowed them to lock their feet into the Skylab floor to stay stable in microgravity, but they sometimes failed under strain, requiring onboard maintenance,
>>16936887I believe that is the word filter accidentally catching the abbreviation for For All Mankind
Skylab kicks.
Cleat.
So, everyone understands every new "presidential directive" prevents anything from ever happening and that's the whole point (except maybe to the president himself whose campaign desires as far as space goes are uninformed delusions)
>>16936851or congress gets lobbied and NASA gets a bit money so they can actually do the initial idea with two free flying competing stations (or more)
>>16936616not all progress is good
>>16936899huh
>>16936899Bro we won't know if any of this is for real until Vought rocks up to Congress on the 15th and tells NASA their entire science budget for the next five years is going to manned spaceflight because fuck you PhDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiVgTqZTl24
I haven't been this pessimistic about spaceflight in a long time. It feels like nobody is able to get anything done these days
>>16936932At least the shitlinks are still going up every day. But no, we won't have grand space infrastructure without radical breakthroughs. Most of what we're seeing now are VC scams.
>>16936932everything will be daijoubu
>>16936698Well yeah, once you get over the novelty aliens are just another group of assholes
>>16936891
>>16936921the Senate Republicans are are ignoring Trump because he'll be out of office when 2/3rds of them run for reelection. And Senators have a stronger financial base and mean tweets for an ex president can only hurt so much.Trump's NASA budget is DOA again. Btw -- the new AI powered predictive typing autocorrect is absolute bowel cancer.
>>16936898If you're wondering, Astromutt popped down the cleat to anchor, but still had some lateral and rotational movement before having to pop up and pop down again.Kinda like climbing anchors.
During the 1973 Oil Embargo, Rockwell proposed the massive SSTO "Star Raker" to build space solar power farms. Now is the time to shill the US government again on this plan.
>>16936959sstos are stupid
>>16936854Huh?
>>16936863Just needed another billion
>>16936977plus tip :^)
Casey Handmer says Kill them all!
artemis II is supposed to launch next week btw
>>16936986Fraser Cain is very negative about IgnitionHe is troubled at the loss of Gateway and is skeptical that a moonbase is possible so soon
>>16936989It was supposed to launch early February, then early March too.
launch or scrubcall it
Explodes on the pad, crew included
>>16936995This fatass is always wrong
Is the launch site safe from shaheds?
>>16936995what a fag lmaooo
>>16937011Those old non-functional flying machines always had absurdly low aspect ratios, just big square wings like a table
>>16936995yeah because they won't build it. They will just spend a ton of money and then cancel it like the asteroid redirect program
>>16937014they were very functional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ8JrcY-TIs
>>16937016The plane in that vid has a much higher aspect ratio than these pieces of shit.
https://x.com/xDaily/status/2038067035465228691https://broadbandbreakfast.com/spacex-looking-to-participate-in-aws-3-auction/
>>16937019spacex is going to steal all the spectrum
>>16937022>Bought>"stolen"Shut the fuck up.
>>16936852>Open your fuel tank to vacuum for a week>close>pressurizeIt's finetrace amounts of methane are irrelevant
>>16937034Wet workshop fags live in fantasy land and think it just takes welding open a few bulkheads and sewing them back shut and everything will be hunky dory, as if you don’t need a complicated life support that has to account for a 4.5x expanded workload or the launches you need anyways to retrofit the interior.Literally why do you people exist? How have you not gone extinct yet from forgetting to eat? How do you solve the captcha?
>>16937035so build your life support 4.5 times larger to account for the fact you fully intend to enlarge your space station?
>>16937038The conference of handwavery congratulates you on your brilliant idea
>>16936887>>16936892
will the Swift Observatory rescue mission work? can I bet on it?
>>16937035In the era of subcritical cooling it is entirely possible to do wet workshops with just the pressure vessels they use
Implications on spaceflight?
>>16937050zeroHelium is a byproduct of natgas production
>>16937040What's the status on this show? Have they started terraforming Mars yet?
>>16937050Just allow the offgassing to collect in a big bag, and float it over the straits
>>16937057tie the bag to a ship carrying more helium and now it can fly above the Straitsomeone should hire me to solve all their problems, I'm a stable genius
>>169370501) the valve off-gasses and then closes back up when the phase change reaches thermal equilibrium againyou lose some, but it's not like the valve breaks open and vents everything all at once2) 67% of other suppliers are unaffected3) spaceflight doesn't actually need helium. It's preferred over argon or nitrogen, but only because you shave off couple grams of mass.
>>16936934hey babe
>>16937050Isn't it cool that there is a death cult ruled country out there that can just halt the global economy on a whim? Anyone who doesn't want this war is a complete retard.
>>16937100But I thought the Islamic Republic of Iran was based and redpilledThat's what /pol/ has been saying anyway
>>16937100>on a whimYou can hardly call reacting to being attacked by two major militaries a whim.
>>16937104Try to use your imagination a littleThat was the scenario that took place nowBut it was always POSSIBLE for them to close it, for any reason they choseTherefore they COULD have killed the world economy on a WHIM
>>16937107But why would they? If they closed it at any point before this they would have probably destroyed their economy. But now that 2 world powers are bombing them back to the stone age they have nothing to lose.
>>16937110>But why would they?Because they are an Islamic terrorist state. They actively say that they hate the western world (and Israel, and this one is understandable). They mow down protestors by tens of thousands. They sponsor multiple major terrorist organizations. I don't want them to have any power on the world scene.
>>16937110The why doesn't matter. Only capabilities matter. A future, even more hostile, islamic government there might have done it for any reason.
>>16937111It was actually stupid of the other gulf states not to build pipelines to bypass that stupid chokepoint. Oman has open access to the Indian Ocean well away from Iran.
>>16937111>>16937113>iran is a terrorist state and could have closed the pass at any time>they've just never done it before because of reasons, ok..this is what you sound like
>>16937116I don't really care what their reasons were for doing anything. But the possibility is there and sooner or later it could have been used against us.
>>16937116Because Iran's government isn't stupid and understand that that would provoke the whole world, which would put them at a disadvantage. It's better to cause trouble on smaller scales and/or through proxies. I don't want them to even be in a position to do these strategic calculations. They aren't like North Korea, who mostly just keep to themselves other than their beef with South Korea. Iran wants people like you and I dead, they just don't have the means to achieve that.
Did Starship ever end up using autogenous pressurisation or did they just give up on that? Just like with sweating
>>16937119I believe too much water vapour ended up in the tanks and the ice was clogging fuel lines/valvesbut my source on that is "Spaceguy5 said so on discord 2 years ago"
>>16937050None. We have LNG production and thus Helium at home. Even have an official Helium reserve.Please talk further comments on Iran back to pol.
>>16937035Back then, boomers painted their asbestos insulated homes with lead paint. They had a different concept of environmental safety.
>>16937019Hey, it's that guy! The one who said his only goal in Life was to get people to Mars to save the species. Now he's checking the pay phone coin returns for dimes?
>>16937126bezos detectedif you weren't aware, companies actually need to make money to stay alive
>>16937136Oh. Elon, the paper trillionaire is -- broke now? Cash flow problem?
>>16937138you aren't making any sensejust seething for no reason
You should have already known this, but the "science" payload for the Izzy atomic powered space battle cruiser is bs:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QUySBOZzSVMDon't Believe the Hype
>>16937141>>16937138but I mean yes, the companies need to make money to actually stay alive and have the promise of making more money to be valuablehow do you think he would go to mars? just hope the employees do it for the love of the game? methane and oxygen gets donated to fly the rockets?are you fucking retarded?
>>16937141Just say "stop saying mean things about Elon!" because that's what your complaints reduce to.
>>16937143According to Elon simps, Starlink is already wildly successful making tens of billions each year, but now they're a struggling startup that needs more licences to survive. Or something. Simps don't care about logic or facts. It's all emotion.
>>16937146>Simps don't care about logic or facts. It's all emotion.He says, not knowing the facts and emoting
>>16937147"No -- U!"Snappy come back. So, were you going to justify Elon's demand for more spectrum when he can't fulfill the projects he's already committed too, or this yet another "Just trust Elon!" day?
>>16937039That's a legit solution, you're flailing
>>16937100That'd be israel
>>16937093>>16937095I'd like to see you explain axial tilt and lengthening and shortening of days on a flerf model
>>16937148Bot
>>16937148This is the most LLM looking post I've ever seen
>everyone wants a space station>nobody can afford it because it's not profitablewhy arent we hard at work trying to solve the hard problem of space station economics? i thought we wanted gundams and o'neill cylinders?
>>16937054The first generation born there have already graduated and are starting college, Mars has around 5000+ people and more arriving (legally and illegally) every year, Earth governments are getting pissy about it though so expect a war of independence this season or the next.
>>16937158Build enough to keep everything in space self-sufficient and then ignore Earth. Ignore the initial cost of getting that all started.
>>16937146Do you believe that purchasing more spectrum implies that the company is doing poorly?
>>16937165Okay, I'd still like you to explain axial tilt and the resulting seasonal lengthening and shortening of days on your golem model
Is Elon going to buy spectrum from Isar Aerospce?
>>16937173Corrupt failing plutocrat using his government connections to get special treatment from his administration pals that control a government monopoly.If all it took is highest bidder, that would be one thing. But it's bid plus ability to deliver as promised, which Elon has failed to do repeatedly, and that's the thumb on the scale.
this is a bot btw. dont reply it. its been spamming the same list for many years.
>>16937110This anon fails the breakfast question
Yeah sorry but these prima donna Commercial Station companies aren’t allowed to be pissy amd huffing and puffing at Jared’s new strategy if none of them actually have a serious plan to have a station ready to be manned and growing before ISS is decommissioned (which will be very soon)
>>16937050I'll wager Big Balloon is behind this
>>16937193Instead of posting a hundred hours of nonsense post your flat earth theory that explains how days lengthen and shorten with the seasons
>>16937146>Simps don't care about logic or facts.that is exactly what you do though
>>16937178No, it implies the company is not doing ANYTHING related to spaceflight and as such should not be discussed in the SPACEFLIGHT general.Feel free to post proof to the contrary. Protip: you can't.
>>16937216why would it imply that?
>usa plans to land on the moon in 2028>china plans to land on the moon in 2029ok, when is the eu's esa planning to land on the moon? I can't find info online
>>16937222>when is the eu's esa planning to land on the moon?just after india lands on the moon
>>16937222We're gathering a committee to decide on the preminary budget for the team which will work on answering your question.Be patient. Democracy is at work.
>>16937126You've been trying out the 'space pay phone' line for weeks now with little to no engagement to show for it. It's simply not coherent enough to be effective bait.
WTF?? WHY THE ARTEMIS 2 ASTRONAUTS ARE IN QUARANTINE? DO THEY HAVE COVID??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii_tmJff7LQ
Unpopular opinion: Orion can land on the Moon.
>>16936422Another case of void madness. When will people stop pretending it isn't real?
>>16937235Black holes are so awesome, some of the weirdest things in our universe
>>16937245posting this again because it deserves attention. they're so neathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54n0WofSNno
>>16937222right after utopia is achieved
>>16937246>Atheism isn’t a religion.
>>16937248you need help if you can't look at math without shrieking about god
>>16937238um, no sweetie
>>16937238I mean, yes, but only once
>>16937234Clearly it works, seeing as (at least) 3 tards fell for it
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2038287062223171758
>>16937267It can crash-land, anything can do that much.
>>16937274how excruciatingly cringe. maybe his support from the WH is thinner than we thought, thus the constant kiss-ass and pandering to the MAGA crowd like getting on stage at TPUSA and doing podcasts with morons
>>16937274based jared arguing with literal whos on twitter
>SR-1 Freedom, that will launch in 2028.I laugh
>>16936741Tory pushing edge computing hard
>>16937278the OBBB did give 10b extra new money
>>16937289use your brain, anon.IV/V will not use SLS, so that money is irrelevant.Gateway is dead, so that money is irrelevant.
>>16937289
get this slop out of my fucking general
>>169372904 and 5 will explicitly use SLS
>>16937293nope. SLS is cancelled after 2.screenshot this if you care.
>>16937292maybe you should use this newfangled tech sometimes, you wouldn't be so clueless
>>16937295it's literally wrong. you're poisoning the discussion
>>16937294unfounded speculation and not the current planand the topic wasn't your random ass speculation, it was about the fact that OBBB did in fact appropriate new money like Isaacman said
>>16937296which part is wrong?Artemis 4 and 5 will use SLS, the EUV and block 1B was cancelled and will probably use Centaur V
after Artemis 5, the plan is to use non-SLS launchers and have them landing every 6 months
we need a new GR for AI bullshit screenshots
>>16937299*EUS
>>16937278we'll take cringe all day if it means space colonies
sfg is ALIVE
>45% of all AI answers had at least one significant issue.>31% of responses showed serious sourcing problems – missing, misleading, or incorrect attributions.https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/documents/audience-use-and-perceptions-of-ai-assistants-for-news.pdf
>>16937304Now exclude starlink
>>16937305God, diet coke is so freaking good
>>16937311That shit is disgusting, bro.
>>16937309there was a suggestion that we need a new type of measurement. not one based on number of spacecraft launched, or the total mass of all the spacecraft, but the number of different constellations.
>>16937313You are european and gay and lack faith of the heart
>>16937311anon, just drink water, it's way healthier. I'm a fan of sparkling water myself, only thing I drink.
Can someone explain to me why the Moon doesn't currently have hundreds to thousands of satellites and orbiters by this point despite it being right beside us and it being 65 fucking years into the space age?
>>16937308these reports are outdated the day the get posted
>>16937318because for a majority of that time the only people worth a damn with a big enough space program have been Russia and America, and Russia is fully retarded from the top down and America has a better space program but is run by Congress who is retarded
>>16937304SpaceX =/= USA
>>16937321where is spacex located?
>>16937322South Africa.
>>16937318i read that nasa was pretty hostile to commercial spaceflight until the mid 80s or early 90s, so they worked to keep the industry from gaining momentum
>>16937322Texas
>>16937324really? How many rockets have launched from south africa?
>>16937328All of the ones that matter.
nobody cares about space, only us autists, which are like 0.001% of the world. in any case, normies who hate space would be the NPCs
>>16937334why are you here? you see the thread on the first page and get assmad because the thread doesnt align with your worldview? grow up
>>16937336Imagine sneezing on it.
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/2038305712732848409Estronaut is mad that people aren't hyped about Artemis II. Does he know?
>16937339Here's your "fell for botpost" award, tard
>>16937318orbit moon for what?
>>16937347To explore? Go back you dirty paki
>>16937349There's nothing on our moon, I could understand other bodies.
>>16937350There's 38 million square miles of land to build cities on and 4.5 billion year old rocks to study and better understand our place in the universe.
>>16937351our place in the universe is to tax aliens
>>16937343Are photographs trying hard to not show he Canadian flag?
is it at least a geodesic dome? those are cool
>>16937318The main reason is the apollo program.Those missions gave us much more information than any satellites.
>>16937289NASA: Congress, please give us a 50% yearly budget increaseCongress: NoAnd that's that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDrEdEKAsQs
>>16937236It's so they don't infect the moonanites with human diseases. Surely you've seen the multiple documentaries about what happened to the poor martians that came to earth?
>>16937274Based patriot destroying liberals with facts and logic
>>16937355He's probably worried that ICE will notice he's not american and deport him.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2038334141566243252
>>16937369
I miss the fairing catch ships. added some pizazz to the normal launches (the attempts)
>>16937316Drink water.
>>16937369Elon reduced to pimping cube sats. Sell that IPO sizzle however you can.
>>1693737825 launchesMars 2026Trust the planE.
>Ship explosion is so likely that they have to release a NOTAM for a static fire
>>16937355Canadian Chad is like a foot taller than the puny americans.
>>16937382>a foot tallerUse metric please, this is a science board.
>>16937381Good indication of a full static fire
>>16937382wow, a whole cubic kilometer.
Elon Musk will save mankind with his arc Starship.
>>16937311I have personally noticed an enormous improvement in overall performance as I have phased out all manner of beverages save for water and distilled spirits. It is my eventual goal to eliminate liquid water entirely, and take in only aged Jamaican pot still rum.
>>16937392>A legit breatharian spotted in the wildlmao
>>16937397don't knock it till you try it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn4UAskPBWk RV-X stream
>>16937405Hey, hey, I've seen this one!
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2038358697760477339>The Minotaur IV for STP-S29A has been stacked on SLC-8 ahead of launch NET April 7th! Minotaur sadly doesn't fly often. This will be its first launch since NROL-174 a year ago, which ended a 4-year hiatus, but when they do they put on one hell of a show as they leap off the pad!>The primary payload for STP-S29A is the ~200kg STPSat-7 satellite, which will carry 5 payloads for the Space Test Program. Alongside STPSat-7 will be several cubesat rideshares from different universities and government institutions.
>>16937411Rumor has it these are payloads that the Minotaur IV vehicle is uniquely able to test. Hmmm...
Japanese viewers seem to be thinking it's about to launch. >>16937405
>>16937411Damn minotaur is still alive somehow? We will be launching, the TWR is insane and it flies off the pad quite theatrically
https://www.china-in-space.com/p/space-pioneers-first-tianlong-3-rumoured>Having been reportedly ready for flight since late January, Space Pioneer’s partially reusable two-stage Tianlong-3 launch vehicle may be finally ready to fly for the first time, according to notices filed and rumors circulating. Starting in mid-March, Notices to Airmen filings had began to be published, aligning with a near-polar launch out of the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center that would have taken place on March 20th. The identity of what vehicle those notices belonged to was unknown, and they came to pass with no launch taking place on that day and a rumored scrubbed attempt.At this point, I'm interested in seeing which Chinese reusable launch vehicle going to make its second flight. With Nebula-1 and Kentica-2 both on the pad getting ready for their first launches it looks like China is going to rack up a record number of first flights before they actually try landing something.
>>16937405https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvMc8F7DewE
"A siren is sounding, and I’ve been told it will be within 10 minutes—though I don’t know the exact time." per streamer
>>16937405T-15 minutes. Does this require bingo cards and puzzles or nah?
>>16937414There's still a few sets of hardware stockpiled in a USSF warehouse somewhere, so it's stuck in the same limbo as Pegasus. Being based on Peacekeeper ICBM hardware probably gives it an absurd shelf life if you store them right.
>paste long stream comment into google translate >it comes back as literally, "*pshhhh*"wat
SCRUBBBEDDDDDDD
Who is the "Long Lehao" or "von Braun" of modern Japanese aerospace?They should just commit seppuku at this point
>>16937424no it's not?
>>16937428本日の実験は中止とのこと per the streamer
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2038371723213496816>NG-3 Update: We're targeting launch of the AST SpaceMobile BlueBird 7 satellite for no earlier than Friday, April 10.
>>16937430Does BO have a real chance at really ramping up launch cadence over the next 2-3ish years? Or do you think they'll kinda just plateau out at some sort of shitty low-cadance rate
>>16937433nope, they don't have the move fast break stuff philosophy. in fact, no one expect sx does.
>>16937430Blue launches and lands again before the next Starslip attempt at a ballistic arc.Told ya.
>>16937433I think they'll be able to hit their goals in terms of GS-2 production. If they have issues it's going to be in the recovery and refurbishment of their boosters.
its' over
SpaceCamp is a good movie to watch before Artemis 2.https://youtu.be/ISPHII9F1nQ
>>16937444loved that movie as a kid
>new glenn, starship, sls might all launch in Aprilfuck it, throw some Vulcan and falcon heavy in there
>>16937444shuttle looks so much better with a white or grey fuel tank
>>16937448Vulcan is stuck in the shop for the next six months while ULA and Northrop try to figure out how to make SRBs that don't lose their nozzles, but it's funny that you'd mention Falcon Heavy...https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2019524512677580993>In their shareholder letter [on February 5th], Viasat finally confirmed ViaSat-3 F3 is launching on Falcon Heavy, and is undergoing final integrations ahead of launch in a couple of months. However it appears that they'll wait on deployment of ViaSat-3 F2's antenna before they'll launch F3.VS3 F-2 seems to have arrived in its slot in GEO, but is still slow walking through the deployment process. The launch of VS3 F-3 is still penciled in for April.
>>16936764Russia calls Zircon a hypersonic missile but it's actually just a ballistic missile.So is Kinzhal btw.
>>16937452Do real hypersonic missiles even exist? Isn't it just a buzzword for next-generation faster ballistics that try to fly lower? I don't think true hypersonics exist lol
>>16937278>>16937274Dems are absolutely seething and can't give Trump credit where credit is due.
>>16937453hypersonics have maneuverable warheads
>>16937458So do boost-glides, but they're not using active propulsion to maintain that speed.>>16937453The US has real hypersonics in flight testing. Electron's launched a bunch of 'em.
>>16937453>>16937458Hypersonics in the literal sense mean missiles that travel faster than mach 5, hypersonics in the buzzword/umbrella term refers to HGV and fast cruise missiles.Hypersonics exist. America, Russia and China have them. But only America's have been visibly more than vaporware (Dark Eagle/CPS and ARRW).
>>16937274>Didn't actually refute the rando's comment at alllmao, Jared what are you doing>>16937278That'd suck but at least make some sense. I understand kissing ass is the way to go with this administration, but it really feels like he's doing it unnecessarily much, to a point where staying in the job in an administration change becomes less likely. Though maybe he's already decided/already knows that he won't stay on (or he's really banking on that Vance presidency I guess).
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2038401704966725966>During a news conference today NASA's Shawn Quinn confirmed that a stop work order has been issued for the second Mobile Launch tower at Kennedy Space Center. This was a massively mismanaged program completely unnecessary for landing on the Moon, and richly deserved this fate.
>>16937433They have a chance, yes. I huffed the Limpium pretty hard when I made my yearly predictions, but if they can get GS-2 production up I think they can do quite well. The problem is that GS-2 is probably to complex for a properly high launch rate as it stands, so unless they simplify it they might top out at somewhat middling (20-30 a year I guess).Also kek at how this aged
>>16937448>VulcanThere are two Atlas V on the manifest at least
>>16937475finally, what a piece of shitis there anything that NASA has managed well during the last few decades? some few cheap throw away science programe perhaps?
>>16937473>Didn't actually refute the rando's comment at allBy pointing out that the rando was not factually commenting he did in fact refute him.
>>16937166Season 6 will be the last apparently
>>16937476Maybe we will see another revolution if v3 works swimmingly but ugh Elon is being such a nigger with starship, HE NEEDS TO DO MORE
>>16937481The Mars helicopter tech demonstrator. Cheap. Quick. Exceeded expectations.Other than that. Uhhhh.....
>>16937482>rando says AII has nothing to do with the OBBB>Jared claims how OBBB has affected everything and anything but doesn't mention AII at allseems like an obvious tacit acknowledgement couched in standard political deflecton to me. He didn't have to respond
>>16937487>Cheap [order of millions of dollars even with so-called spare parts]>Quick [lol no]>Exceeded [low bar of lasting just a few hours, the bare minimum]WOW!
>>16937488AII is part of "everything"
>>16937489Grok, is that lady correct?Not really! Despite being designed for only five flights, Ingenuity exceeded all expectations and completed 72 flights over nearly three years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adatsuwzLw
>>16937494How.So, how does this sign actually get us to Mars when Elon has declared Mars is no longer a priotity?
>>16937495>Does moon side-quest because AI bucks>"ElOn Is NeVeR gOiNg To MaRs"
>>16937496Elon is going to the Moon! That will send us to Mars!Anon, no. HLS is dead.Well, Elon is building orbital AI and that we send us to Mars!How?Uhhhh....
>>16937499>HLS is deadlol, lmao>How?You can fit an inference compute rack, the solar panels needed to drive it, and the radiators needed to cool it comfortably on a Starship V3 derived spacecraft bus. This is currently the plan. The viability of running H100 and similar compute devices in space is already proven.And before someone gets silly about it, inference clusters are the devices that actually run everybody's AI queries. They're much smaller than training clusters.
>>16937501No anon, you don't understand. How does orbit AI, which is a bubble that will never actually happen, get us to Mars? Even if it happened. What's the direct connection?
>>16937503almost infinite scaling of Starship cadence -> launch costs plummet -> cost to send stuff to mars plummets -> a mars colony becomes cheap enough to build (and simultaneously the revenue from the AI inference constellation makes SpaceX so valuable as a company that doing the mars colony can be looked as an R&D expense or simply bankrolled by Musk who is going to be worth tens of trillions)
>>16937499>How?Money
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2038327543833436324>Our 16th Transporter rideshare mission is targeted to launch tomorrow from California and will deliver 119 payloads to orbit https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2038339134603841706>Here are all the payloads labeled (except a few cubesats) for Transporter-16. A total of 119 satellites are onboard, making this SpaceX' 3rd largest rideshare mission. The biggest payload, K2 Space's ~2,000kg Gravitas satellite sits on top of the stack as a "cake-topper".
>>16937503Money.Inference is where the business functions people actually pay for live. By placing the clusters in orbit, there's no battles with utilities and power, something that's increasingly so expensive that they're paying to reoopen shuttered nuclear power plants, is free in space. By paying for time on the inference clusters, SpaceX generates a revenue stream that gives them more free cash flow to pay for Mars, which will generate revenue on a timescale that is effectively, approximately never.
>>16937509I looked up a few of those and I'm still not sure what they're all for.
>>16937509How the fuck is Momentus still alive?>>16937506>>16937510I'm seriously not sure if you guys actually believe this instead of just shitposting
>>16937514Nothing I said is shitposting. The business plan for AI inference compute is plain to see and Elon Musk has stated outright what the plan is for orbital AI at the Terafab event.Now, what I am not saying is that the business plan actually closes. Users need to pay some N quantity of dollars to pay for the amortized hardware cost, and inference compute isn't as cheap as it used to be. Part of the reason they want to build their own fab is because capacity is expensive to buy right now and the actual production costs are low.
>>16937510So, the world's richest man doesn't have enough money to go to Mars now. Even though, two years ago before he got distracted by the new shiny AI he said he did. And Elon wouldn't just as waste the money if he actually got it on another distraction or drugs. This time he'll get clean, focus and go to Mars.Okay. Sure. Sounds like what every single drug addict says, but this time is different.
>>16937514its obvious if you just look at the numbersif starship actually works and brings costs down to like 100-200 $/kg to orbit, then orbital inference compute will compete with ground based inference then to keep scaling way beyond what you can do on earth assumes inference (i.e. AI usage) demand will grow without limit but even without this assumption orbital inference will be cheaper than ground based if launch costs become cheap enough
>>16937518do you understand where his "money" comes from? I guess you don't
>>16937518The world's richest man's wealth exists in a form that can't actually be spent and is derived from the expectations that his companies generate large future revenues and larger future profits. So, as a matter of fact, he cannot afford it.
>>16937520And when it doesn't? Because it won't. What then?
>>16937524then this won't work, pretty simplebut if Starship doesn't work then basically no amount of money will be enough for mars colonization anyway, so your point is kind of moot
>>16937522Then why, two years ago, did Elon say that everything was set to go to Mars? He had his money, he had his company, he had a plan. Was Elon just lying?
>>16937514Oh, they believe. They're cultists. They probably where purple track suits when they post.
>>16937521>>16937522to expand on this, if Tesla didn't have the promise of self driving cars and robotaxis nor Optimus, Teslas market cap would probably be something like 100-300b, so Musks net worth from that would be around 20-60bil, on the lower end thats less than what bezos has already put into Blue OriginSpaceX might be a bit higher depending on the growth assumptions of starlink, but nowhere near the 1.75T market cap its going to IPO at (that bakes in a lot of future speculation about the businesses Starship is going to enable, mainly the orbital compute thing)so lets say Musks net worth was something like 100b then (Tesla with no FSD, SpaceX with no Starship or orbital compute)in that case a mars colony would not be possible anywaya mars colony requires cheap launch i.e. starship + a lot of cash (maybe 100b was enough with launch being cheap enough)so not only does mars colonization require very cheap launch, but that cheap launch itself will also enable new business in space (mainly orbital compute, later maybe new things) which will then in turn help with the mars colonization (more demand for launch means launch will become even cheaper, the company doing all this will become much more valuable and that can be then leveraged to finance the mars colony through the market cap by also through cash flows)
>>16937516>>16937520The problem with these numbers is that they're Elon cost targets, which are based on a boatload of handwaving and have a tendency of being approached 10 years late if ever, at which point they'd at best be competing in a race to the bottom with razor-thin margins if they're viable at all. Also unlimited demand does not exist, and that's assuming the bubble doesn't pop. Not to mention that by using the compute mainly for xAI as Elon has said SpaceX would be taking on the inference costs themselves instead of getting paid for them.>>16937522He could borrow against his shares or sell some to the tune of hundreds of billions, which should be plenty with the Starship targets he believes in>but that'd crater the stocks meaning he'd get lessI'm pretty sure he could still make a couple hundred billy possible.
>>16937528Gonna need you to prove he said that, chief.
>>16937518Going to Mars could be done. If it works as planned, paying for the number of ships that will need to be sent and all that needs to be built there is going to take money being made, not just spent. Whether all the AI in space will end up being profitable enough with demand not dropping is a different issue.
I'm warming up to the idea of Optimus generating trillions
>>16937533Starlink was supposed to be enough, before the AI memesats everyone was saying it was gonna pay for Mars easy. Now that Musk has moved the target it was always obvious that Starlink would never have been enough I guess.
>>16937528when did he say that?the plan was basically, "we are going to start launching shit and land that on mars and figure it out, hopefully it works, iterate like everything gets iterated and solved eventually"the plan is basically the same now (realistically not really delayed at all but the stated goal launch window pushed back about 2 years) but with way more launches, way bigger company and actually testing things on the moon between mars launch windowsall of this means its going to be easier to do than beforewhy do the pivot?a few years ago it wasn't as obvious that the demand for inference would actually grow this fast and basically be limitless, starship itself was in a much more immature statestarship is close enough to being operational and turns out AI inference demand is insane -> orbital compute works and scales much further than starlinkStarship would be feasible even without orbital compute just based on starlink, but the terminal amount of launches that would be required for that would be many orders of magnitude less than what orbital compute enables and requires and thus launch costs would also be higher (higher cadence drives down launch costs in many ways)
>>16937537Starlink sets a cap at scale 1. AI, hypothetically, sets a cap at Scale 2 and justifies other investments that could produce actual profit from lunar economic output, which sets a much, much larger theoretical cap at scale 2.
>>16937535soon, anon. that's going to be the next bubble after AI. imagine your little gpt or grok being able to wash your dishes, clean your house, repair your car, fix your toilet, etc etc. the world is gonna change so drastically.
>>16937532if you rent out a gigawatt of inference compute its something like 10 bil nowif you sell the tokens generated by that compute its worth something like 30bilxAI using the compute would not be a cost, it would generate more value from the assets in house by selling the tokens directly instead of renting the compute to companies like OpenAI, Anthropic and Googleyou don't see the contradiction you have here? you are saying that launch costs won't be low enough for orbital compute, but at same time they would be low enough to enable mars colonizationso simultaneously you would have to have very pessimistic assumptions about orbital compute, but very optimistic assumptions about what it takes to get the mars colony online and self sufficient (just launching some shit there and then Musk running out of money would not be enough, the point is to have a self sustaining colony)
>>16937538So, launch window end of this year. Elon has dozens of F9 which are also FH eggs. So, what is Elon sending to Mars this year?
Please god let this actually happen...
>>16937547Most of the system power is provided by the solar panels on the Gateway module. Deleting the nuke toy would make the ship lighter, faster and a billion dollars cheaper.But muh technology demonstrator!
>>16937545this year with starship would not happen regardless of the orbital compute or the moon plans due to Artemis, so 2029 would have been the more realistic uncrewed landing attemptsbut that is pushed back by a launch window now until 2031 at the earliest (5 years)the first three posts below are from Feb 9-10 (when the Moon pivot became public)
>>16937552>>16937545cont. with sources from Musk commentshttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/2020640004628742577>For those unaware, SpaceX has already shifted focus to building a self-growing city on the Moon, as we can potentially achieve that in less than 10 years, whereas Mars would take 20+ years. >The mission of SpaceX remains the same: extend consciousness and life as we know it to the stars. >It is only possible to travel to Mars when the planets align every 26 months (six month trip time), whereas we can launch to the Moon every 10 days (2 day trip time). This means we can iterate much faster to complete a Moon city than a Mars city.>That said, SpaceX will also strive to build a Mars city and begin doing so in about 5 to 7 years, but the overriding priority is securing the future of civilization and the Moon is faster.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2020836688466215254>Mars will start in 5 or 6 years, so will be done in parallel with the Moon, but the Moon will be the initial focushttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/2020963984455893158>We’re still going to Mars and the timeframe for building a self-growing city there is still about the same at 20 to 30 years. >It’s possible that revenue from lunar activities might actually accelerate Mars.Feb 15 affirming the same thinghttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/2022848786469364171>To be clear, we are still going to do Mars. I don’t think this change affects the time to a Mars city being self-growing by more than 5 years and it might turn out to accelerate Mars.still the same message about 1.5 weeks ago from March 19https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2034709008029020207>SpaceX will ultimately deliver millions of tons to the Moon to build a self-growing city there and same for Mars
>>16937553Grok, anything to add?You bet! The CEO of both SpaceX and Tesla Motors said he plans to launch a rocket to Mars by 2024, with arrival on the Red Planet occurring a year later. His intent is to send people to Mars roughly every 26 months with fresh supplies.“That’s what it takes to sustain a civilization,” Musk said Wednesday night at Recode’s Code conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
https://x.com/deredleritt3r/status/2038436460324405599?s=20
>>16937556>@deredleritt3r>Date joined>January 2024>Account based in>United States>Verified>Since November 2024>3 username changes>Last on May 2025>Connected via>United States Android App>https://github.com/prinz-ai>March 2026>Created 10 commits in 2 repositories>prinz-ai/prinzbench 8 commits>prinz-ai/accelerando 2 commits>5 contributions in private repositoriesliterally who? that's some indian using a VPN, getting paid $5 a day to shill for "AI"
>>16937557a sad state of affairs for /sfg/ that people think posting random x posts is good content
>>16937538Groklink is to Starship's economy of scale what Starlink was for F9.
Your appointment to NASA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator.
>>16937572I take it he was agreeable?
When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for the Artemis jobs, he was so willing it was almost pathetic.
>>16937577Oh yes
>>16937557Yeah, I can't stand techslop X. Might even be the the account owner posting.
>>16936831settle down, Zubrin
>>16937425>Long Lehao
>>16937274His smile and optimism gone
voyager is just a few minutes away from being 1 light-day from earth
>>16937557Technically, also using an AI script to automatically write and post his tweets.And probably to post here too.
>ship 39 launch is NET 3 weekssoon
>>16937631Got in. May. Maybe June.
>>16937631TFR issued over Massey for 3 to 14 April, possibly for a static fire test of Ship 39Ship 38 took a month between start of static fire test attempts to launch attempt. So, May launch attempt for 39.
>>16937556They used to call this graduate student descent, because you'd get a doctoral student to do it. You twiddle the hyperparatemers and see how the model trains. Now that agentic models can do that, ASI is surely only two weeks away.
>>16937642AI is not Space related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD1q-sY25AYTransporter 16 launched
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2038576081452908855>Full lift off footage of LJ-2
Uuuuuhhhh Plasma Fusion's Sunbird test, anyone?!?
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2038587164922143024>High res lift off video of the LJ-2
https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2038543981479411902
https://x.com/PhilipJohnston/status/2038587098047946858https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/30/starcloud-raises-170-million-series-ato-build-data-centers-in-space/>Starcloud’s latest funding round values the space compute company at $1.1 billion, making it one of the fastest startups to reach unicorn status after graduating from Y Combinator.
>>16937728>The company will also begin developing a data center spacecraft designed to launch from Starship, the reusable heavy lift rocket being built by Elon Musk’s SpaceX. Starcloud 3, as the spacecraft is named, will be a 200 kilowatts, three-ton spacecraft that fits the “pez dispenser” system SpaceX designed to deploy its Starlink satellites from Starship.>CEO and founder Philip Johnston said he expects that will be the first orbital data center that is cost-competitive with terrestrial data centers, with costs on the order of $.05 per kw/hour of power — if commercial launch costs land around $500 per kilogram.>“There’s kind of two business models,” Johnston explains: One is selling processing power to other spacecraft on orbit; the company’s first satellite, for example, analyzes data collected by Capella Space’s radar spacecraft. Then, in the future when launch costs go down, more powerful distributed data centers could potentially pull work from their terrestrial counterparts.
>>16937728Philip Johnston@PhilipJohnstonCo-founder & CEO of @Starcloud - Building data centers in spaceNo conflict of interest there. I say we believe everything he says.
>>16937731you don't believe they raised 170mil or what is the issue here? lmao
https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2038603748516196694>Today there are two reveals worth noting. Starcloud's raise reveals their intention to build a 3-ton flat packable sat designed for Starship pez dispenser, and K2's Gravitas launched today on Transporter-16 is also a flat packable designed, presumed to work well in a pez dispenser as well. Orbital Infrastructure builders across the board are betting big on Starship.
>>16937724Robin@xdNiBoRSoftware @SocialdatabaseYour AI for Social Content, AudiencesPlease stop posting these AI generated Twitter posts. We never hurt you that wsy.
>>16937733https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2038604303439441999>Also worth noting that K2 is pushing 20kw per spacecraft already an order of magnitude increase over traditional architectures, while Starcloud is planning to pushing 200kw per spacecraft. Thermodynamic architectures (power in, heat out) are accelerating.>>16937509K2 on top of the stack here
>>16937734you are schizophrenic
>>16937733Aaron BurnettFounder, CEO @ Mach33 | Research and Investment in Space & Expansion TechnologiesAnother stock pimp. Please stop.
>>16936741https://x.com/torybruno/status/2038276452475695413>You guys liked the last batch of Ring photos so much, here’s a couple more from another angle. Standard Sam wasn’t in frame, so we’ve added in Ghostly Jane for reference.
>>16937741
>>16937740if you have a problem with the information, then point out where its wrongotherwise I'm going to ignore you
>>16937741am I missing something or is that not very big for a 7 meter fairing?
>>16937728just like AOL was worth billions, right?
>>16937744ESCAPADE was even smaller, but the fairing is designed for LEO launches I'm pretty sure and then just standardize it over all for simplicity
>>16937733their first mistake is only building for starship. they should have a universal platform that works for any large rocket, including chinese and european. relying on a spacex -- a company known for stealing its competitor's ideas -- is stupid
>>16937748
>>16937749how do you build a universal platform if you only have one example of fully reusable rocket being built?if BO does develop some fully reusable upper stage at some point, I would expect them to then have a version that supports this flat pack sat dimensions, it will become a de-facto standard assuming other companies start launching with Starship before a competitor shows up
>>16937760What’s the capacity to LEO?
>>16937728>>16937733and so, yet another tech buzzword to scam retarded investors is born.thanks, Elon, for providing us tech workers more overpaid jobs, even during times of crises.
oh no...
>>16937771Are his bodyguards all indian? Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o593JmtLyMU>Artemis II: Everything You Need To Know!
>>16937779Normies have no idea this mission is even happening
>>16937743Your stock pimp posts might be better reviewed in biz. It's understandable that you post them here because they're banned on most space forums, but still.
>>16937770Seethe retard.
>>16937787School kids are getting NASA propaganda on the mission like back with Teacher in Space. Hope it doesn't turn out that way again.
>>16937794would be funny as fuck though.
>>16937789the fact is, you are wrong about orbital data centers and you are upset I post facts that make support that, probably combined with some EDS
>>16937793>Seethetry reading again, dumbo.ironically, you are the ones seeting about tech workers making a lot of money from tech scams kek
>>16937771Not a churto apparently. It's a potato spiral. Probably an India treat.
>>16937801Why doesn't he list the deltav for orion?
>>16937801
The photo was taken when the SpaceX CEO attended this year’s Charro Days festival in Brownsville, Texas.This guy has so much free time.
>>16937802>>16937779took the screenshot too early lol
Charro Days is a vibrant, four-day annual festival held in late February in Brownsville, Texas, and Matamoros, Mexico, celebrating the shared culture and friendship of the border communities. And drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.
>>16937806>less than halfHow did they justify this?
>>16937804that pic is years old
>>16937806why did the euros build us such a tiny under preforming service module?
>>16937813ICPS limits.
>>16937810NASA wanted something to fill their iron rice bowls and didn't care about the facts.
>>16937810SLS and Orion exist to have something for old Space Shuttle contractors to do, i.e. jobs in certain congressional districtsits an abomination gobbled together from old parts that has been wrangled to "work" somehow for the moonSaturn 5 and the Apollo module was designed explicitly and from the start for moon missions
>On Sunday, March 29, Starlink satellite 34343 experienced an anomaly on-orbit, resulting in loss of communications with the satellite at ~560 km above Earth.https://x.com/Starlink/status/2038635185118588973
>>16937812And. Were you going somewhere with that thoughtlette?
>>16937787normies wouldnt even care if we landed people on mars
>>16937819iranians shot it down?
Charro Days 2026 potato spirals, known locally as espiropapas, are a popular festival treat featuring a whole potato spiraled on a skewer, deep-fried until crispy, and seasoned with toppings like ketchup, chili powder, and lemon. With sour creme for dipping that sounds good.
>>16937820so your post is wrong
what time is sls launching todayand, take your bets if it explodes <300 seconds after launch
interesting
>>16937800Imagine you are a pajeet street food veondor living on 4 cents a day, and all of a sudden Elon Musk buys your potato spiral (no tip) and starts deepthroating it while making really loud violent gagging sound.
>>16937825So, Elon didn't shove a potato spiral down his gullet? Where are you going with your Elon defense. Use your words.
>>16937829dumbest shit imaginablewe paid how many billions just so a black woman can see the moonit's dumb and Trump should have cancelled it, Congress won't be able to sustain the program into Artemis-III. At least not using SLS. Boeing, Lockheed, NASA can't make the rocket on a schedule that matters
>>16937836HLS wont be ready for another 3 years at least so why rush SLS?
>>16937835doing clear dirty
>>16937771same vibe
>>16937834this happened when Musk was living and at starbase during a 6 month periodattending an event that lasts a week while you live nearby does not take a lot of timeyour post implies it happened recently and that Musk just fucks around and has so much free time he can attend these things whenever
>>16937773Apparently not: Net says he had 7 ex Special Forces operators protecting him.
>>16937826its not launching today, its launching on Wednesday
>>16937819
>>16937843Meanwhile, Elon is off on Twitter mad posting about random events. Star Trek, the New York mayor's race, whatever his drug soaked brain sees.But according to you Elon is focused 24/7 on Mars.
>>16937843so.. Musk did shove a potato spiral down his gullet?.. Or not?
>>16937851not what I said
>>16937666>>16937667is this right, these ended up launching within minutes of each other?
>>16937854You are responding to someone who has set their sights on shitting up this thread.Please do yourself the favor and ignore them.
>>16937764>tri-fold symmetry on every stageThat's pretty unusual. I think only the shuttle had a similar three engine configuration (not counting the OMSs). The ancient stage-and-a-half Atlas had them arranged linearly.
Spaceguy5ML-2 is significantly lighter weight, nearly fully completed, and would be more optimal to convert to the also misguided plans to change to Centaur
>>16937865He’s just a bad faith actor who will argue anything expensive / jobs program as “good for NASA,” and who will complain as a contrarian against anything commercial or cheaper that threatens against his comrades.At a certain point who cares what he has to say when his predictable responses start flying out like a pre-programmed automaton designed to laude everything bad and slow and expensive
>>16937859H3-30 I think.
How do we grow the Great Red Spot and prevent it from disappearing
>>16937873Feed it a sacrificial moon
>>16937392>diet coke bad>nigger water goodWut?
Unpopular opinion: There are Earth orbits that are beyond the Moon.
>>16936360inb4 delayed again
>>16937873Collect some of it and move it to Mars.
>>16937888I hope so. I want to watch it live but I won't be able to because of work. push it to saturday plz
>>16937892But I want to see a day launch and not a night launch.
>>16937873Jupiter is finally becoming adult, a spot like that should go away after enough billion years.
>>16937897>the great big hole grows smallerits finally healing
-*ACK*>The GPS Next-Generation Operational Control System, or OCX, is designed for command and control of the military’s constellation of more than 30 GPS satellites. It consists of software to handle new signals and jam-resistant capabilities of the latest generation of GPS satellites, GPS III, which started launching in 2018. The ground segment also includes two master control stations and upgrades to ground monitoring stations around the world, among other hardware elements.>RTX Corporation, formerly known as Raytheon, won a Pentagon contract in 2010 to develop and deliver the control system. The program was supposed to be complete in 2016 at a cost of $3.7 billion. Today, the official cost for the ground system for the GPS III satellites stands at $7.6 billion. RTX is developing an OCX augmentation projected to cost more than $400 million to support a new series of GPS IIIF satellites set to begin launching next year, bringing the total effort to $8 billion.>Although RTX delivered OCX to the Space Force last July, the ground segment is still not operational. Nine months later, the Pentagon may soon call it quits on the program. https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/03/after-16-years-and-8-billion-the-militarys-new-gps-software-still-doesnt-work/raytheon is the new BOING
>>1693776612 tons to LEO, 8 tons to SSO. For all of its CCB appearance it's not actually that big a rocket.
https://x.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/2038629519012061303>If schedule holds, these 3 giant rockets will launch in the next 3 weeks. >From left to right:>New Glenn - satellite launch now, planned for the Moon>Starship - test flight 12 now, planned for the Moon>Artemis - to the Moon and back with 4 crew aboard>Pushing the very edge of our capability as we learn how to more safely & cheaply reach space, to explore all that exists beyond.
>>16937924Pax Americana, baby.
>>16937926probably not the best time to be talking about pax americana
>>16937931Third world hands typed this post.
>>16937806apollo csm mogs
>>16937933eh. orion is cool but it needs its upgraded service module
>>16937937orion = dogshit
>>16937938which youtuber gave you this opinion?
>>16937941https://www.youtube.com/@NASA_OIG
>>16937938Orion has made a trip around the Moon. May we see the Starslip Moon trip?
>>16937886L2 is underappreciated. The Zeppo of Lagrange Points.
Qingzhou cargo spacecraft launched on Kinetica-2It has a diameter of about 3.3 meters, weighs 5 tons, and has an upmass cargo capacity of 1.8 tons, and as much downmass, the pressurized volume is 27m^3 (the cargo capacity will eventually be increased to 2.75t)This one carried 1.02 tons of experiments and is just a free flying prototype, the operational version will be launched to Tiangong in late 2026/early 2027
>>16937948>May we see the Starslip Moon trip?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_TpmSram2g
>russia getting borked by starlink>usa getting borked by chinese/russian satshow is the military supposed to deal with hostile satellites? the status quo cant remain
Emp starlinks
>>16937966I don't think there's any sign that the failure was an external kinetic event.
>>16937779>SLS has payload capacity than Saturn 5What the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL3AyQ766vcArtemis 2 news conference in 8minutes
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/2038714869168611657rocketlab acquired a space laser company
>>16937982live
>>16937924>cheaplylol
WE ARE GOING
>>16937551NEP demo is the point of SR-1. NEP lets us send huge science probes to orbit Kuiper belt objects, while also arriving in under 10 years.The point of NEP is not Mars missions. The Mars mission is merely an easy and quick flight trajectory to demo the tech.
Starlink launch is live
>>16937982
lol launch in the background of the qa
>>16938001lmao
>>16937998Yeah, this is more important.
>25 years of operations in LEO doesn't really prepare us for going to the moongreat to hear
>>16937997You have no clue on the performance and mass a Kupier probe requires. Read the occasional paper. It fission fragment sail class.
>>16938006doesn't prepare anyone for more LEO operations eitherAlmost as if the ISS was fucking pointless
>>16937982>women speakingugh
we used to be a serious country
were 2 days away from sending people around the moon and there's zero hype from the normies
>>16938017watch out how they will all learn about this 30 minutes before liftoff. also, get ready for never-before-seen levels of doomerism, conspiracy theories, cynicism, and a myriad of 'fix earth problems first', 'waste of money', 'space is fake', 'cgi', etc etc.
>>16938017omg did you just see what kim kardashian was wearing today?!
>>16937981Hydrolox sucks like that
>>16938023If anybody I know personally calls it fake I am going to strike them.
>>16938032channel your inner buzz aldrin
>>16938032please post video evidence for science>>16938033yes. we must be the buzz we wish to see in the world
On the day of Artemis III (inshallah) the rocks and trees themselves will cry out "Lo, there is a moon landing denier hiding behind me! Come and kill him!"
so what was said in the press conference? anything useful?
>>16938040>rocksdo we even have enough alabama river rocks?
>>16938042Never, they are a non-reusable resource and must be periodically replenished by plundering the Alabama river system.
>>16938042The administrator killed the contract
>>16938040>contracts for alabama river rocks>contracts for nuclear rocks>contracts for mars rock sample returnIt’s all just fucking rocks!
>>16938041everything is ready to go, I stopped listening after a few retarded QA questions
https://youtu.be/o593JmtLyMUThis is what you need to know
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2038751876611792968>For all humanity.
What are the odds we might actually see resources being mined and pulled out of the lunar crust in a decade?
https://x.com/NASA/status/2038745567191310389>The countdown begins.>Teams at @NASAKennedy have arrived to their stations at the Launch Control Center. We are about 48 hours from the launch of the Artemis II mission around the Moon.https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/missions/2026/03/30/nasas-artemis-ii-launch-mission-countdown-begins/
>>1693806850/50
>>16938017Nobody gave a shit about Apollo either, except for 11 and 15. Remind boomers about this the next time one of them brings up how things were back in their day, they cared more about the Beatles breaking up than Apollo 13.Not to mention you have an administration that parades around with people who legitimately think space is fake.
>>16938068I would say pretty high if you mean some ISRU research or test, but actually doing something useful with it probably notmaybe laser sintering the regolith to make a launch pad or something
> The weather forecast for launch day shows an 80% chance of favorable weather conditions with primary concerns being cloud coverage and the potential for high winds in the area. Teams will continue to monitor the weather in the coming days.
>>16938068mozzarella stuffed crust?
>>16938082reminds me of q-bert
Starlink explodes https://x.com/i/status/2038680177408880719
>>16938082Woah... is that THE female astronaut that participated in an all female spacewalk? Powerful...
>>16938087how many space walks have you done?
>>16938086spain will pay for this treachery
>>16938090An all female spacewalk is definitely VERY important for the future of NASA.
>>16938093didnt answer the question
he's right you know https://x.com/Orbital_Perigee/status/2038634117647016176
>>16938098so what, aren’t they solids? And either way it’s a chinese rocket so yeah they’re all shit. Even LM9 an LM10 are going to be shit
>>16938090Well I've never done an all-female one
>>16938099tri-core that doesn't stage
>>16938097You're right, Anon. Clearly I should fly to the moon before knowing intuitively that political games in space is a dogshit retard idea. Why don't we send down syndrome astronauts up next for representation?
>>16937584>if you make fun of a neo-feudalist shithole that got a temporary boost by siphoning it's handed-on-a-platter colonial empire for half a century before devolving back down into irrelevance you are literally le marsjew.russia is just completely pathetic, regardless of ukraine, and the people who get all sensitive and serf-ishly defend them every time they are mocked for this are even more pathetic.they're never going to build that shitty falcon 9 clone either btw, they just don't have the ability to anymore, they only barely managed to get an expendable replacement for soyuz working after over 20 years.the saddest part is they still theoretically have everything they need to be be a superpower, large internal riversystem, all the natural resources to become almost totally self-sufficient, massive levels of food production and a large populus. any other nation of people, if placed in their current position, could have become a superpower all on their own again without the soviet union to siphon talent and resources out of. russians are just failures like that.
>>16938103not reading all that shit nigga
>>16938102so let me get this straight. you think as a species its not important for an entire gender to be present or represented in space flight?
>>>/wsg/6119905
>>16937813>>16937810Because IPCS is very underpowered for a second stage of a rocket of SLS's size, it should be the third stage.But Boeing a shit and can't actually develop/deliver the EUS despite all the technologically hard parts like the engines being off the shelf.But if SLS had the EUS from the start then they wouldn't have been able to justify Gateway.A self licking ice cream come.
>>16938105So let me get this straight, you spend all your time on the internet deliberately misrepresenting arguments to win imaginary points for an imaginary scoreboard? No faggot, I'm saying as a species it's RETARDED to turn something as important as space travel and potential colonization into some gay little diversity parade where people only get in because of the color of their skin or the vagina between their legs. Let's endanger everyone's lives because it's the CURRENT THING.
>>16938104>i am a zoomer, and reading hurts my head!i know, but that's not really my problem.takes a regular person no time at all to read "all that", probably about 8 seconds, but zoomers are especially slow at processing information.
>>16938110how exactly was it a diversity parade? jesus dude they had qualified women do a spacewalk together
>>16937865>nearly fully completedJust like how EUS is almost ready, the guy just can't help himself.
>>16938112The whole issue in the first place is making a big deal about "first female to do x", "first female to do y", "first female to do z". When they keep doing shit like this it starts making people question their qualifications in the first place. Are they up there because their good at their jobs? Or are they up there because they have vaginas and it looks good to constituents?
>>16938114Everybody knows this and anon is winding you up for fun.
>>16938118I would hope at the very least threads like these on this board wouldn't have cunts deliberately shitting things up just because like everywhere else.
>>16938119You are still on 4chan, anon.
Victor Glover please do a little gospel reading while you’re up there
>>16938122no religion in space, pls
>>16938122oh lawd
>>16938112they explicitly made it about a woman and a "person of colour" going to the moon
>>16938017>15you mean 13 after the explosion?
am I a person of white
>>16938112>how exactly was it a diversity parade?they let a canadian come with them
>>16938129a person devoid of color
pardon if this info is buried deep in a 650+ post thread, but anyone have info on the stages and planned maneuvers of the artemis ii mission?a link to a ksp version of the ship?
Predict the Artemis 2 Easter stuntEaster egg hunt in the capsuleGlazed ham and sweet potatoes mealChocolate space bunnies
>>16938132see >>16937779
>>16938130Unforgivable
>>16938007You have no idea how spaceflight works if you can't tell whatever argument says we need fission fragment sails is simply assuming some ridiculous constraints. NEP can be launched directly towards Jupiter for a gravity assist 2 years after launch. After the gravity assist the NEP vehicle can thrust continuously to first speed up then begin braking such that it reaches the KBO at low enough velocity to capture. The minimum Isp required to accomplish this trajectory in ten years is approximately 6000s. Far within the range of MPD thrusters. At a starting acceleration of 1 mm/s^2 and an 8 year flight time post-assist, NEP could exert over 250 km/s of delta V. Obviously propellant mass becomes the limiting factor, and reduces acceleration as more is added, but regardless the high Isp and long flight distance makes NEP very useful in the OSS.Nuclear thermal propulsion a shit, nuclear electric propulsion for the inner solar system a shit, but nuclear electric propulsion for the outer solar system is actually great.
>>16938132https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/20412/
>>16938011Nonsense, we learned that zero g is bad for people amd spingravity would be necessary for long term spaceflight, then spent the other 25 years confirming that result just to be really sure it wasn't a fluke.
>>16938133>Easter stuntit explodes at t+00:01
>>16938090We're all walking in space anywhere we go anon :)
>>16938132Ksp comes stock with all the parts of Artemis, remember?
>>16938142imagine if it exploded for real, this general would lose their shit.
>>16938145all four of us
I can't wait to tell my daughter all about how it took 50 years of spaceflight for scientists to test if high resistance low rep exercise improved bone and muscle density retention better than low resistance high rep cardio, and that as soon as they tested it it solved 0g muscle and bone degeneration almost completely
>>16938148the astronauts are too busy keeping the ISS from falling apart to do that
>>16938139>>16938135danke>>16938144didn't know that, and haven't played in a while. last time i played i was getting good at mun missions of all types with like tier 5 or 6 tech, so likely haven't used the artemis parts, nor would i have recognized them. i'll just check the steam workshop, it would be impossible for it not to be at the top of the page right now.
>>16938148don't forget, growing 0g arugula too
Chances for a last minute delay?
>>16938158Very low. It will launch as a joke.
>>16937900>GPShow hard can it be to have GPS software. what the fuck.
>>16938133Glover will reveal that Jesus resurrected not only for humans but for canadians, too
>>16938164That is heresy and I will demand that you recant it
>>16938158probably close to 100%. these things are always randomly delayed like 30 seconds here or there
Could NASA post an AI video of ayliums kidnapping the astronauts in orbit? Or something?WOULD IT BE ASKING TOO MUCH?
>>16937931Brown
kind of embarrassing that SLS is launching astronauts to the moon while starship still hasn't tested orbital refuelling ngl
>>16938193jew
it is scientifically possible to cancel SLS in 48 hours
Is the current phase of the Moon inconsequential to Artemis launch shedding?Off the top of my head, during the last attempt it was just some random ass waning gibbous phase or something. Now I’m looking outside and it’s almost a full moon.And if they launched during a new moon they would presumably get an insanely good view of a fully-lit far side. Does this have any sway on the launch window? Or is it all just orbital rendezvous irregardless of lunar phase? (or are the two intimately tied? Idk)
>>16938208it's complicated. I wish I knew it intuitively too
>>16938208*scheduling, not shedding
>>16938208it mattered more in apollo landings, they wanted nearly full moon for sunlight + comms back to earth (overhead) + visibility. For a fly-by/orbit, the phase is less important, it's more about the relative inclination (the moon's orbit around earth is inclined ~5 degrees) and I guess timing the slower/higher velocity to stay within limit of darkness time, t. nasa:https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis/artemis-2/final-steps-underway-for-nasas-first-crewed-artemis-moon-mission/> The trajectory for a given day must ensure Orion is not in darkness for more than 90 minutes at a time so that the solar array wings can receive and convert sunlight to electricity, and the spacecraft can maintain an optimal temperature range. Mission planners eliminate potential launch dates that would send Orion into extended eclipses during the flight.interedasting:https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19630007117/downloads/19630007117.pdfslop:https://www.space.com/space-exploration/artemis/why-are-the-launch-windows-for-nasas-artemis-2-moon-mission-so-shorti suspect the launch windows coincide with calculated peak efficiency free-return trajectory timing
>>16938208>Is the current phase of the Moon inconsequential to Artemis launch shedding?Not sure. I think the phase of the moon just depends on where it is on its orbit. And where it is on its orbit doesn't matter that much because the Earth rotates faster and you can just wait a matter of hours to have it where you want it relative to a certain point on Earth.HOWEVER, they did say that they wanted to launch at a specific time so that if the abort system is triggered the astronauts would end up on Earth's day side (to make rescue easier).
>>16938223>>16938208better to wait and line up florida to be able to fling the craft at the moon when the moon's not too far "up or down" relative, rather than burn delta v on plane changes, i think thats the primary influence on the launch window, not the moon's phase per se.
>>16938208>>16938223Ideally you still want the far side to be in daylight so you can actually see it when you're nearest to the moon.
>>16938205If you own a ground-to-ground missile system I suppose
>>16936942>the aliens immediately begin lobbying congress for four billion dollars per year in aid money and "weapons credits"
>>16937100>Isn't it cool that there is a death cult ruled country out there that can just halt the global economy on a whim?yes, it's too bad that Trump buckled to their demands for a sneak attack on Iran, we're all very disappointed in him
>>16937100Would it have been SO BAD to just let them nationalize their oil in the 50s?Instead we had regime change and counter-regime change and counter-counter regime change that may end up getting all of the oil infrastructure of the region blown up now.Why do we have to go through this. It never fucking ends.
>>16937986They're gearing up to bid on the Mars telecom satelliteLaser communications is factoring pretty large in their proposal
What are the odds that the flight path misses the moon and they drift off forever in space
>>16938265The TLI boost failure flight path takes them on a free return trajectory back to the Earth.
>>16938264isnt it just a single satellite? what will they connect the laser to?
>>16938265>@GROK YOU FUCKING BASTARD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR SPACESHIP YOU TOLD US YOU COULD MAKE THE TRAJECTORY MORE EFFICIENT MAKE IT COME BACK NOOOOWWW
>>16938265Even if they "miss" the moon, they're still in orbit around the earth with a periapsis in earth orbitThey simply don't have the delta-V to go any further than lunar orbit with Orion on top of that rocket
the nasa subreddit is EDS central
For what is the zipper?
>>16938281its exactly what you think its for
>>16938279Everything in that post is true though.
>>1693826550/50
>>16938278what if they crash on the moon then
Why isn't methalox used for bullets if it is so great apparently?
A rocket is basically a bullet.
>>16938322You blew my mind anon. Just like a bullet would.
>>16938304self propelled bullets are a thing actuallythey are used in artillery, they are kind of a hybrid between a bullet and a rocket
>>16938141So what's the plan if Orion does a Starliner and they lose thrusters during prox ops? Do they continue on?
>>16938332And just like a rocket would! :D
>first manned mission to use a HEOIt’s something I guess
>>16938336https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73WegqHbySA
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2038911290991890746
Artemis II more like Shart & Piss, Poo
Do you remember?
>>16938357grok is this true?
HEO to TLI trajectory of Artemis II
>>16938357-- the salesman from US Steel had some bodacious weed. Hydros.
>>16938366
>>16938367>loitering in the van Allen beltsIsn’t that bad?
>>16938114Of course they are making a big deal out of it, it's free marketing
>>16938372builds character
>>16938372Orion has spent lots of time in them before. no problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_UjBMIzNo>NASA's Artemis II Crew Launches To The Moon (Official Broadcast)27h to go
>>16938387inb4 scrub
>>16937724Reddit trannies grifting about each other
>>16938391Dont jinx us like that. I cried when it didnt launch in February
Most significant space mission in the last 50 years. 1 day to goooo
>>16938402He is a black with very caucasoid facial features. If his skin were white he could easily pass.
>>16938410He’s /ourguy/
>>16938114You ever watch a sports channel when they have one of the stats autists on?Everything is a first for something
>>16938409my body is ready
>>16938103again, settle down, Zubrin, you're just making the JQ more obvious
Meme drive status?
>>16938130THE UNKINDEST CUT
>>16938409Ahhh-- either of the two big Mars rovers would be more significant. Also, Galileo, New Horizons. Cassini too for the Titan data. And Hubble and the Thomas Paine Space Telescope.
>>16938450vindicated.
why don't they just demonstrate thrust
they did, tranny.
When is it reaching mars then?
>>16938457when?
>16938459memoryholes the sucessfully produced thrust.
>>16938454Most significant manned space mission in the last 50 years. and the fact it's just a moon orbit says something
>>16938472I am asking when and where, why can't you produce something?
>>16938482They literally had so much thrust that NASA satelites had to swerve to avoid the steaming train of QI. You lost, tranny.
>>16938488why did you crop off the date?if this truly works, when is it planned to be used on an actually functional satellite (other than as a test module)?
>>16938488Lol lmao
>>16938406>tell girl at work about upcoming moon launch>she expresses doubt in previous moon landings>launch scrubs/delays for 2 months right afterI'm just going to stop talking to people, it's for the best.
>>16937100The distruption on logistics is Europes fault for not helping.
>>16938494cool, stupid chicks put out
>>16938387>NASA about to launch astronauts to the moon for the first time in like 55 years>nobody in the normiesphere is still aware of it
>>16938490>when is it planned to be used on an actually functional satelliteAs you know, the industry is very conservative and Molusk is too busy gooning to Grok videos to notice. QI is proven and the eggheads at the LHC are about to get hung drawn and quatered.>>16938492>First they ignore you,>then they laugh at you,YOU ARE HERE>then they fight you,>then you win
>>16937100Usually when you want something done you allocate enough resources to get it done and then commit. It doesn't look like the stable genius that started the war wants it either.
>>16938114>"first female to do x"The point is that technology and safety has progressed to a point in X that it's now safe for a child to do it. It's more a reflection of man's pioneering is complete.
>>16938497
>>16938410>nose, forehead, earsYou should get tested for face blindness
>>16938503He's no nordic statue but he is well within the range of what exists in the caucasoid race. Finns often have wide noses like that.
And then you remember how some lazy ass gookmoot April Fools thing is going to shit up website usability for tomorrow's launch thread
>>16938511based
>>16938511based and fuckyoupilled
>>16938511>artemis ii launching on april fools' dayyeah, that's going to be annoying lol
>>16938511it's going to be something utterly cancer isn't it
>>16938511What if, as a joke, the mods actually blocked spambots for a day? That'd be funny.
>>16938494at last you found out real quick that this girl is worthless
I thought starship would be stacked by the time artemis 2 launches...
>>16938511kek remember when they just quarantined and shut down entire boards
>>16938525it hasnt launched yet
>>16938511This general and the launch thread are gonna be unusable tomorrow, better use the discord instead.
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2039040632388300998>Soyuz-5 / Sunkar rocket was transported to Pad 45/1 this morning, ahead of the first (suborbital) test flight. Launch is scheduled for March 3, between 14:00 and 16:00 Moscow Time. Backup windows are on March 4 and 5. Likely no live-stream for this one.
>>16938532tiny rocket is tiny
>>16938521The neck tat was a dead giveaway ngl
>>16938534Actually the tallest rocket in the current Russian lineup
>>16938494this world unironically needs an asteroid impact.
>>16938539Soyuz is actually so tiny
>>16938541Tiny rocket
>>16938539What's SLK?
>>16938541>>16938543we need 18 meter soyuz. no more playing around with these childrens toys
>>16938536seeing more red flags than a a communist convention
>>16938544I think it was a commercial proposal for a small launch vehicle, but the few things I can find that reference it are pretty light on the details. The lineup I posted says would lift 780 kg to LEO but an article talking about it says it would have a payload capacity of ~250 kg. I'm also not seeing anything on it published in the last 5 years, but it being a dead project isn't really a surprise since Russia can barely find any demand for something like the Angara 1.2. The Start-1M and Rokot-M proposals have been stuck in the same limbo too.
>>16938511Ah heck. Yes. That and making the thread a sticky will murder sfg on one of the most important days in space history in a half century.
I will ask a very profound question: Can you reach god with a rocket?
>>16938564Yes, if you ride in Shuttle or Starliner
>>16938511I have the feeling that as an April fool it will be captchas which get progressively harder through the day and at the end only high iq people will be able to make posts.
>>16938564ask the challenger crew
>>16938564>Godoh boy it's time to ponder why the universe exists again
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>>16938564no. if you tried your rocket would crumble like the tower of babel. the only reason rockets are allowed by God is they are expressly not trying to reach Him.
>>16938494what's her @
>>16938511Let's fucking go
>>16938517They should remove the captcha and unban all IPs
>>16938541cute and funny
Headcanon: they space out the engine chambers to make room for a fifth landing burn engine!
>>16938578Word filter "Artemis" to...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhQJCzhCOw
Wen Raunch?
>>16938581too
>>16938564What would God need with a Starship?
>>16938581"Starship".
>>16938586ha
>>16938585Actually, wasn't sure on that and flipped the coin. *shrugs*
>>16938527I thought the doge was pretty funny. It also sort of brought the community together and made it reminiscent of the old days
>>16938564There's no reason to ride a rocket, you can talk to him on twitter.
>>16938598No, I can't. Hitler is dead.
I like how theya re sendingup a hooker so the men can pop a quickie in space if they need. NASA thinks of everything.
>>16938623they'll have to resurrect Fred Kings voice for upcoming launches.
>>16938623JACK king i mean
>>16938586that is beyond us to know. Star Trek should be ashamed to question God
>>16938626>>16938627we have the technology
>>16938629Using AI for the launch announcements seems like something Elon would do without a lick of irony
>>16938638if it sounds like Jack King then id be ok with that
